Politico sounds the alarm: Boehner may still have to listen to tea partiers after midterms

posted at 12:41 pm on September 2, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Nine weeks from today, Americans will head to the polls to select the members of the 114th Congress. Leading the day at Politico is a piece which suggests that the House GOP is already underperforming, given the expectation that this would be a strong Republican year across the board.

“Tepid fundraising, underperforming candidates and a lousy party brand are threatening to deprive House Republicans of the sweeping 2014 gains that some top party officials have been predicting this year,” wrote Politico’s Alex Isenstadt. He noted that the GOP is on pace to pick up just five or six seats in the lower chamber of Congress.

But the stakes are higher than merely what size the GOP House majority will be in January of next year. According to Politico, a midterm cycle in which the Republicans only gain a handful of seats would mean that Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) will remain beholden to the “tea party wing of the party, with little room to maneuver on a governing agenda.”

It is not clear if it was one of the GOP strategists who sounded the alarm that too many House GOP candidates are running underwhelming campaigns, which could mean the tea party wing maintains its status as perennial wrench in the gears of government. If it was, that is not an entirely irrational concern.

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand. In late July, conservative members compelled the withdrawal of a bill which would address what they called a “crisis” at the Southern border, shifting the media’s focus from the White House’s sluggish approach to that emergency onto the GOP. Before Barack Obama backed off a plan to extend legal status to millions of immigrants reportedly at the request of vulnerable Senate Democrats, the House GOP may again have forced a shutdown of the government when it came time to pass a new continuing resolution.

“Establishment” Republicans are, however, focused entirely on the downsides associated with having an energetic Tea Party Caucus in the House GOP. There are, of course, a few upsides – most notably, the enthusiasm of the tea party grassroots.

According to Gallup polling, the American electorate is deeply dispirited. Only 33 percent of American voters have been paying close attention to the coming midterms, lower than in 2010 (a strong GOP year) and 2006 (a strong Democratic year). However, among those who are watching the elections closely, the GOP maintains a comfortable lead.

Among Republicans, 42 percent say they are following the news regarding the coming midterms closely. Only 27 percent of Democrats said the same.

While this is no indication of how either party will perform in November, it is a clue to how GOP-leaning the electorate will be. That enthusiasm is due in large part to the Republican Party’s tea party wing, which still makes up about a third of the Republican coalition.

The House of Representatives has always been an unruly animal. It is the role of leadership to rein in those conference members who would rather make headaches for the party brass, and make names for themselves in the process, than serve as just one congruent voice among hundreds. Virtually every successful House leadership team has had to contend with an obstreperous and willful few who aim to frustrate their party’s grand strategy, but the republic has endured.

Instead of blaming the tea party wing for its disruptive nature, maybe it is time to take a hard look at how the GOP leadership in the lower chamber is managing affairs.


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When have they ever listened, to anyone?

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Nice article……not really.

Wow, the state of Political reporting/journalism in
this country has turned to HorseSh*t…

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM

When have they ever listened, to anyone?

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM

They don’t and they won’t. Their response to Cantor losing his seat over amnesty was to put an even worse amnesty shill in his place.

This new GOP Establishment Congress is going to create democrat victory in 2016 it’s going to be so bad.

ConstantineXI on September 2, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Instead of blaming the tea party wing for its disruptive nature, maybe it is time to take a hard look at how the GOP leadership in the lower chamber is managing affairs.

Lolz!!!

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Lolz!!!

You are funny Noah!!!

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Noah hates the tea party.

I’m totally astonished.

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Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM

OMG, TEAZILLA!!!!

The more power is attributed to the TEA Party, the weaker and more liberal (establishment) the Whig party becomes.

Basically, the only people remotely interested in saving America from those that are bent on destroying it, whether that be quickly or slowly, is the TEA Party.

Meople on September 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I get to vote for a GOP carpet bagger for the House now that Bachmann is leaving, he’s running unopposed so I do believe I’ll leave that oval blank.

My state reps, all Party Approved! Party Tested! and ready to toe the line.

Joy.

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

Stop parroting the lie, Noah. The GOP House passed numerous funding bills. Harry Reid refused to bring them to a vote in the Senate. Harry Reid shut down the government.

Please try and get your basic facts straight Noah.

rbj on September 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

I need to hear from Morning Moron, before I draw
any conclusions on this matter…BTW,

in accordance with the Hot topic du Jour,
any Naked pics of Mika out there?.

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Sorry, I really shouldn’t laugh so much. Okay, Here’s the plan. Hire Haley Barbour, that’s right the LBJ guy to appeal to Tea Party folks. Yeah, that should work. Screw you GOPe types……

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The GOP needs to give us something to vote FOR.

What’s the agenda?

dforston on September 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I thought Congress was supposed to listen to and take orders from the folks that sent them to Washington in the first place, not party leaders.

Tinker on September 2, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Oh…..I almost forgot……….Whigs

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM

You see a guy in your town dismantling all the stop lights with a sledgehammer so you call the sheriff, and he informs you that “Sorry, I’d like to do something but the optics might be bad and I want to get reelected next year.”

Yes, in this case you are being disruptive, why is that so hard to understand? Please shut your go**am yap and do as you are told.

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM

any Naked pics of Mika out there?.

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Joe knows.

faraway on September 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Vote for Thad!! He is the future of the GOP. Go Thad Go!!

kringeesmom on September 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Vote for Thad!! He is the future of the GOP. Go Thad Go!!

kringeesmom on September 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM

HeHe!

Game, Set, Match!

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 1:02 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

BullShite. In October 2013 a group of brave politicians stood up to the administration and Obamacare. They were ultimately betrayed by Boehner and the establishment GOP. But the shutdown of government was solely the fault of the Dems no matter what the popular media says.

Happy Nomad on September 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM

When have they ever listened, to anyone?

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Hmmmm, it depends on how much campaign cash is filling pols coffers. Dollar signs in large denominations can really get these pols attention in a heartbeat.

hawkeye54 on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Bishop on September 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Yeah, you’re probably right Bishop. Should just go lockstep to the trains. HeIIfire, I like trains. Plus the uniforms are ll the rage.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”

John Adams

“There should be a representative assembly, as exact portrait in miniature of the people at large…but it must NOT have the whole legislative power, for the reason that like an individual with unchecked power, it could be subject to fits of humor, transports of passion, partialities of prejudice. A single assembly could grow avaricious, EXEMPT ITSELF FROM THE BURDENS, BECOME AMBITIONS AND AFTER SOME TIME VOTE ITSELF PERPETUAL”!!!— John Adams, March 1776…

billofrights on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Instead of blaming the tea party wing for its disruptive nature, maybe it is time to take a hard look at how the GOP leadership in the lower chamber is managing affairs.

Noah:
Even if you spread this message to all of your RINO brethren successfully, it’s 5 years too late.

We are far past the time to examine current leadership and their lack of coherent management. They have had their time, and have been found wanting (“not the hill to die on”, ring a bell?). Time for new leadership in my opinion.

Full Stop.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

*all

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

any Naked pics of Mika out there?.

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Joe knows.

faraway on September 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM

He would never look! He’s too fine a man, I tell ya.

He took good care of his female staffers when he
was a Congressman.

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

If it was, that is not an entirely irrational concern.

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand. In late July, conservative members compelled the withdrawal of a bill which would address what they called a “crisis” at the Southern border, shifting the media’s focus from the White House’s sluggish approach to that emergency onto the GOP. Before Barack Obama backed off a plan to extend legal status to millions of immigrants reportedly at the request of vulnerable Senate Democrats, the House GOP may again have forced a shutdown of the government when it came time to pass a new continuing resolution.

There you go again, Noah. Why are you vox-ing the lsm/GOPe meme instead of the conservative viewpoint? Is this a conservative site or one shilling for the establishment? Some conservative, you poseur!

AH_C on September 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM

The GOP needs to give us something to vote FOR.

What’s the agenda?

dforston on September 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM

What, you don’t like…crushing the TEA Party,
Amnesty,
no strings debt ceiling hike,
caving in and trying to “fix” ObamaCare
crushing the TEA Party,
NOT securing the border,
another $Trillion or three in tax increases to continue growing the econo…err Obama slushfund…err the government,
crushing the TEA Party
continuing to rubber stamp Obama nominees,
changing the rules in the Senate BACK to pre-Nuclear Option to give Dims even MORE power,
AND crushing the TEA Party.

I know I’m jazzed to vote for THAT!

Meople on September 2, 2014 at 1:08 PM

There you go again, Noah. Why are you vox-ing the lsm/GOPe meme instead of the conservative viewpoint? Is this a conservative site or one shilling for the establishment? Some conservative, you poseur!

AH_C on September 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM

You didn’t notice the name change to Hot GOP?

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

That’s total horseshit.

dogsoldier on September 2, 2014 at 1:12 PM

You didn’t notice the name change to Hot GOP?

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM

I’ve pretty much been calling it Hot Sh*t.

Meople on September 2, 2014 at 1:14 PM

He noted that the GOP is on pace to pick up just five or six seats in the lower chamber of Congress.

Politico, kissing Democratic ass all the time.

Republicans ARE PICKING UP SEATS! But never mind, it’s all about those EVIL “Tea Party” people.

You remember the “Tea Party”…it was NOTHING to worry about.

GarandFan on September 2, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Salem is a GOPe sandbox.

We scoop out the crap!

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Where is the Republican party? I have not heard a peep from any of them all summer, other than Paul Ryan trying to sell a book.

Exninja on September 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM

BREAKING: ISIS Beheads American Reporter Steven Sotloff, Releases Video Of Execution…

Resist We Much on September 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I guess Mom’s video didn’t help.

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Where is the Republican party? I have not heard a peep from any of them all summer, other than Paul Ryan trying to sell a book.

Exninja on September 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM

They’re all pi$$ed that Cantor’s loss screwed up their amnesty plans.

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I’ve pretty much been calling it Hot Sh*t.

Meople on September 2, 2014 at 1:14 PM

It’s certainly Hot Something-Unpleasant.

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM

It is not clear if it was one of the GOP strategists who sounded the alarm that too many House GOP candidates are running underwhelming campaigns, which could mean the tea party wing maintains its status as perennial wrench in the gears of government. If it was, that is not an entirely irrational concern.

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand. In late July, conservative members compelled the withdrawal of a bill which would address what they called a “crisis” at the Southern border, shifting the media’s focus from the White House’s sluggish approach to that emergency onto the GOP. Before Barack Obama backed off a plan to extend legal status to millions of immigrants reportedly at the request of vulnerable Senate Democrats, the House GOP may again have forced a shutdown of the government when it came time to pass a new continuing resolution.

Wow, Noah , you just went all in. Did Eric Cantor offer you a job on his new lobbying gig yet? Or are you angling for the chance to take a knee when Mitch becomes Majority Leader?

kcewa on September 2, 2014 at 1:21 PM

BREAKING: ISIS Beheads American Reporter Steven Sotloff, Releases Video Of Execution…

Resist We Much on September 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Jessica Valenti: “It’s wrong to check out leaked videos of ISIS insulting Lord Obama”

faraway on September 2, 2014 at 1:22 PM

The Whigs will be listening to the real Republicans until they all go over to the enemy.

formwiz on September 2, 2014 at 1:23 PM

BREAKING: ISIS Beheads American Reporter Steven Sotloff, Releases Video Of Execution…

Resist We Much on September 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Yet his colleagues continue to support Obama.

kcewa on September 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I guess Mom’s video didn’t help.

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:18 PM

If mum’s video was going to ever work, its recipients had to have compassion, empathy, and basic human understanding. ISIS lacks all of these, which is why its members can behead someone that they have held hostage for months. For even most harden criminals, it becomes more difficult to execute a hostage the longer that they have time to bond with them and see them, even negligibly, as a human being. These fanatics are missing that capability, which just further explains why #hashtag diplomacy, negotiations, economic sanctions, ‘naming and shaming’ will NEVER WORK. These people are immune to all of that and only understand one thing: The sword.

Resist We Much on September 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM

…forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

with an MSNBS link no less. Noah, you are a twit.

DanMan on September 2, 2014 at 1:25 PM

There you go again, Noah. Why are you vox-ing the lsm/GOPe meme instead of the conservative viewpoint? Is this a conservative site or one shilling for the establishment? Some conservative, you poseur!

AH_C on September 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Noah is not a conservative. He is not even an establishment Republican. He is a liberal, plain and simple.

Shump on September 2, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Oh be serious, the Tea Party are all victims – just read these threads.

rhombus on September 2, 2014 at 1:28 PM

If mum’s video was going to ever work, its recipients had to have compassion, empathy, and basic human understanding. ISIS lacks all of these, which is why its members can behead someone that they have held hostage for months. For even most harden criminals, it becomes more difficult to execute a hostage the longer that they have time to bond with them and see them, even negligibly, as a human being. These fanatics are missing that capability, which just further explains why #hashtag diplomacy, negotiations, economic sanctions, ‘naming and shaming’ will NEVER WORK. These people are immune to all of that and only understand one thing: The sword.

Resist We Much on September 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Yep.

Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM

My GOP rep is pretty solid (Rob Bishop R-UT) but I’m still strongly considering a Constitution Party straight ticket vote b/c Bishops first vote when reelected will be for Boehner for Speaker. That is unacceptable.

aquaviva on September 2, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I suppose that Noah believes that if we could just get rid of those nasty TEA Party types [not all of which are Republicans]; that the world would be a better place. At least from the point of view of the leadership of the New Whigs [where Noah seems to fit].

If the Whigs continue refuse to fight, or to collaborate actively, with the Leftists after any putative elections in November; they may well get a chance to deal with their Utopia, up close and personal. And only the Great Blue Sky Tengri Nor knows what the outcome will be.

Subotai Bahadur on September 2, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Who wrote this garbage, a White House Spokesman? Or an Establishment Stooge?

SGinNC on September 2, 2014 at 1:39 PM

The GOP needs to give us something to vote FOR.

What’s the agenda?

dforston on September 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM

It’s had to have an agenda when the various components of the party at at each other’s throats. What unified issues do they all agree on except hatred of the brown guy who had the audacity to win election twice? You have a pseudopopulist tea party group, you have an elitist wallstreet/corporatist group, you have the religious fanatics, you have the wannabe libertarians, and you have the uber-interventionist neocons. These groups have precious little in common really.

There you go again, Noah. Why are you vox-ing the lsm/GOPe meme instead of the conservative viewpoint? Is this a conservative site or one shilling for the establishment? Some conservative, you poseur!

AH_C on September 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Because the conservative meme that the shutdown was caused by the dems is
A) stupid
B) completely unbelievable, and
C) completely unbelieved
Of course he’s not going to repeat it as if it were true. Nobody does. Everybody knows the conservatives shutdown government by deliberately writing funding bills that would never pass the next two steps.

What’s more since conservatives at the time were mass chanting “let it burn” it’s not exactly hard to figure out they were the ones with a vested interest in a shutdown.

If you are going to try and revise history at least come up with a good lie, this just makes you look pathetic- whining that your completely transparent strategy didn’t fool anyone.

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand. In late July, conservative members compelled the withdrawal of a bill which would address what they called a “crisis” at the Southern border,

I joined Hot Air several years ago to read about politics from honest, conservative editors and comment with like-minded folks.

So sad to see the brand go so far downhill.

Pay attention, Noah:

1. The House passed many budget bills, NONE of which were allowed a vote by Harry Reid. One of the bills funded Obama’s budget request 100%, with the single proviso that all CongressCritters had to sign up for ObamaCare. The DEMOCRATS decided to shut down the government rather than sign up with Obama’s signature piece of legislation.

2. Obama’s $3.7 billion request spent almost NOTHING on border security and enforcement — all it did was declare the incoming seawater to be cargo, while the ship kept sinking. Conservatives, led by Sen. Sessions, forced Boehner to keep the House open for an extra day to pass a bill that would actually enforce the law. Again, Harry Reid ignored it and went on vacation.

If we long-time Hot Air readers have to put up with LIES from editors in addition to lies from trolls, maybe we should all switch over to Breitbart and Daily Caller.

fred5678 on September 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Noah is not a conservative. He is not even an establishment Republican. He is a liberal, plain and simple.

Shump on September 2, 2014 at 1:28 PM

When you move to the extreme right everyone looks liberal.

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Hey race baiting leftist shit. You are wanted on the beheading thread.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Politico should have been sounding the alarm over ISIS.

faraway on September 2, 2014 at 1:48 PM

1. The House passed many budget bills, NONE of which were allowed a vote by Harry Reid. One of the bills funded Obama’s budget request 100%, with the single proviso that all CongressCritters had to sign up for ObamaCare. The DEMOCRATS decided to shut down the government rather than sign up with Obama’s signature piece of legislation.

2. Obama’s $3.7 billion request spent almost NOTHING on border security and enforcement — all it did was declare the incoming seawater to be cargo, while the ship kept sinking. Conservatives, led by Sen. Sessions, forced Boehner to keep the House open for an extra day to pass a bill that would actually enforce the law. Again, Harry Reid ignored it and went on vacation.

If we long-time Hot Air readers have to put up with LIES from editors in addition to lies from trolls, maybe we should all switch over to Breitbart and Daily Caller.

fred5678 on September 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You’re lying to yourself, fred. What’s more nobody outside of your tiny echo chamber believes the lie. We all know you guys caused the shutdown and cheered it on…until the obvious blow back bit you in the #@$. Then you tried to shift the blame to everyone else.

Party of personal responsibility indeed.

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:49 PM

The degree of Tea Party influence in the House will only matter if Republicans get the majority in the Senate. For the last four years, lots of good bills have passed the House on a party-line vote, only to have Harry Reid refuse to even call a vote on them in the Senate.

If Republicans get a Senate majority (which will probably be thin, such as 52 or 53 seats), Boehner (or whoever is Speaker in his place) will have the job of “herding the cats” to pass bills which can also pass the Senate.

Steve Z on September 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Hey race baiting leftist shit. You are wanted on the beheading thread.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM

You’ll find I have very little concern for what you want, Bmore.

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Really. Why is that race baiter? You seem all to willing and happy to have people forced into your fantasy unicorn fart filled world.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Noah hates the tea party.

I’m totally astonished.

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Bitter Clinger on September 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Noah picked up some brainwashing when he was at Mediaite.

myiq2xu on September 2, 2014 at 1:52 PM

I’ve got a crisp $2 bill (yes, it’s legal tender) that says that Bo(eh)ner will form a Grand Unity Coalition with Pelosi in January just so he doesn’t have to deal with conservatives anymore.

Steve Eggleston on September 2, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM


Run away! Run away!
Add coward to the little race baiting leftist title.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM

The libs will always blame the opposition for the shutdown, but it’s not true.The PARTIAL shutdown of the government was caused by Harry Reid, who wouldn’t even pass a separate limited bill to help children with cancer get treatment at the NIH. Remember TLALOC? No, of course you don’t, it doesn’t follow your notes from liberal media headquarters. Keep drinking Obamas kool-aid while our country goes to hell.
Conservatives are not racist. It’s liberals who use identity politics to separate people. Conservatives believe that everyone has the potential to succeed. We don’t try to keep minorities on the “dependence plantation” with “handouts”that limit their opportunity to work. Liberal policies treat minorities as second class citizens who need “special” affirmative action, because patronizing Dems believe minorities are not as intelligent as the rest of us. That is the liberal viewpoint. Conservatives believe in being colorblind and judging a person based on the content of their character, not their color.
Obama has been an awful President, his economic policy is detrimental to growth and his foreign policy is non-existent. Go back to Politico or Huffington Compost and troll there with your buddies.

searcher on September 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM

You’re lying to yourself, fred. What’s more nobody outside of your tiny echo chamber believes the lie. We all know you guys caused the shutdown and cheered it on…until the obvious blow back bit you in the #@$. Then you tried to shift the blame to everyone else.

Party of personal responsibility indeed.

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Bingo! An idiot troll with ZERO facts, after I presented nothing but FACTS.

Hot Air, it was nice to know you back when Michelle hosted an honest forum.

A sample of facts about Democrats spreading LIES that trolls ignore:

In December, 2005, the Sensenbrenner immigration enforcement bill had an initial provision to change the penalty for the first illegal entry from a misdemeanor to a felony. Realizing that we don’t want 12 or 20 million illegal aliens clogging our jails, Sensenbrenner introduced a one-line amendment to leave it as a misdemeanor. The Democrats voted 191 to 8 to leave it as a FELONY for the first illegal entry into the country, then campaigned AGAINST their own vote the following spring, when Clinton and Kennedy, demagoguing from the Capitol steps, told La Raza and illegal aliens, “We’re not going to let the Republicans call you criminals!” A very shrewd “poison pill” strategy by the Dems, all so they could keep LYING.

Harry Reid later said, “You can’t deny it was a Republican House, and a Republican bill.” But a DEMOCRAT passed amendment, of course.

GOPe is hopeless against shrewd, malevolent politicians, lying editors, and lying trolls.

Off to Breitbart and honest reporting.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll655.xml

fred5678 on September 2, 2014 at 2:09 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

Damn Noah. You don’t even try and hide your leftist revisionist bullshiite do you?

This website used to be soooooo much better. The standards have fallen quite a bit around here.

HotAirian on September 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Bi-line on Mr. Rothman’s post:

The horror.

Speaking for yourself and other RINOs I see.

Then this:

“Establishment” Republicans are, however, focused entirely on the downsides associated with having an energetic Tea Party Caucus in the House GOP. There are, of course, a few upsides – most notably, the enthusiasm of the tea party grassroots.

The only upside establishment republicans (including Mr. Rothman) want to see with tea partiers is their vote come election day. There just isn’t much establishment enthusiasm when it comes to standing on conservative principles or differentiating themselves from democrats in any meaningful way.

The establishment is going down. It may be slower than I and many would like, but it will happen nevertheless. The RINOs stand for NOTHING other than a claim that they can manage the country’s decline (much of which they caused) better than democrats.

KickandSwimMom on September 2, 2014 at 2:38 PM

It must kill Noah to know that the tea party is apparently unkillible, no matter how many times his old buddies at Mediaite and his standard political source Politico declared it dead / irrelevant.

The tea party is always dead until it becomes a convenient foil, and then all of a sudden it’s a juggernaut again.

BKennedy on September 2, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Virtually every successful House leadership team has had to contend with an obstreperous and willful few who aim to frustrate their party’s grand strategy…

And the “grand strategy” is what, ‘Go along & Get along’ with the Democrat agenda?

I used to think I knew what the the Republican Party stood for but they have proved me wrong. The Republican Party certainly isn’t the Party of small government, low spending and taxing, personal freedoms or anything else that I thought they stood for. I even called my Republican House Rep, three times, asking what Republicans stood for with absolute silence in response.

RJL on September 2, 2014 at 3:08 PM

grand strategy

What exactly is that strategy, may I ask?

golfmann on September 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

On a programming note, I’d just like to point out the difference between noted candy-ass RINO Allahpundit and Noah. I think Noah is attempting to mimic AP’s hyperbole, but he’s doing it wrong.

The difference is that AP never carries the left’s water in matters of substance. AP for example would not repeat the lies that the tea party and Senate conservatives caused the government shutdown. He does enough research and has enough acumen to know all the players involved and point out the entire picture.

AP is also self-deprecating rather than other-deprecating. The only time AP really gets on my nerves is when he goes extreme on the eeyore scale and depresses everyone else. We all know his biases on areas of disagreement, but he doesn’t try to sound superior about it. His writing quality is also better generally.

AP is a fine role model to aspire to for a candy-ass RINO, Noah. You’re not getting what makes him successful though in your emulation. Your ego keeps getting in the way, and you keep forgetting who your audience is – by which I mean when you advance idiotic left-wing narratives, expect to get gut checked with reality in the comments.

Some of us want to like you. Quit making it so hard.

BKennedy on September 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

So disastrous that the GOP is poised to take back the Senate in a couple months.

myiq2xu on September 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM

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Viator on September 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

In October, 2013, the tea party wing – in conjunction with some Senate conservatives – forced a government shutdown with a disastrous effect on the party’s brand.

Noah Rothman is simply parroting LEFT-WING MISINFORMATION AND PROPAGANDA!!!

1. It takes TWO SIDES to pass a bill. By what stretch of logic was the October 2013 shutdown the fault of Conservatives and/or Tea Party members?? Are Conservatives and Tea Party members ALWAYS WRONG when they oppose Democrat positions: no matter how destructive the Democrat positions are???? Why isn’t the shutdown Democrat’s fault for refusing to be fiscally responsible and refusal to discuss any reductions? Is Noah saying that nobody is entitled to vote for their position except Democrats?? NONE OF MY NEIGHBORS (INCLUDING DEMOCRATS) WAS THE LEAST BIT UPSET ABOUT THE SHUTDOWN!!! In fact, most of us considered it REFRESHING: something which we need to do more often!!!

2. What was the “disastrous effect” on the (Republican) party’s brand??? As near as I can tell, the Republicans have since picked up enough support that it is commonly accepted that they are in a good position to take back the Senate!!! So what is the “disaster”: that Obama no longer invites Republicans to golf outings??

I CALL B.S. ON THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE!!!

landlines on September 3, 2014 at 12:04 AM