ESPN poll: 71% support team keeping “Redskins” name — including 53% of liberals

posted at 8:41 pm on September 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

The raw numbers look nice for those who favor keeping the name, but pay attention to the trendline. Way back in 1992, just eight percent supported changing it; last year, as the lefty messaging machine got rolling, it bumped up to 14 percent. Through eight months of this year, it’s up another nine points. Where will it be five years from now?

Glass half-full or half-empty?

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Don’t read too much into the numbers among liberals. They’ll become strongly negative soon enough, as opposition to “Redskins” slowly joins the canon of What Good Progressives Believe. The number among the under-45 set is interesting, although I’d love to see a more refined split between the youngest adults and the middle-aged. It only stands to reason, I think, that the older you are, and the fonder your memories of the team’s glory years, the more attached to “Redskins” you’ll be. A younger cohort (which leans left to begin with) doesn’t face that obstacle. It may be that, a la opposition to gay marriage, support for the team’s name will simply age out over time as older fans are replaced by younger ones.

Another interesting number from the poll: Although 71 percent support keeping the name, just 54 percent think it’s unlikely to be changed. Makes me wonder if there’s a self-fulfilling prophesy effect here, in which some critical mass who oppose the PC option have grown so fatalistic about crusades like this that they’re unlikely to resist as pressure builds from the other side. If you’re telling yourself that Dan Snyder will eventually cave to some kind of boycott, how likely are you to join a counter-boycott? That 54 percent may be a more significant figure than the 71 percent who claim to support the name, however half-heartedly.

One question that never gets asked in “Redskins” polls, possibly because there’s no foolproof way to pose it, is whether fans would support the team changing its name to “Redskins” now if it had been named something else for the past 75 years. Whether you could get an “accurate” number from a difficult counterfactual like that is unclear; the closest you might come is to ask people if they’d support some other team changing its name to “Redskins.” That may be the only way to discern how much of the support for the name is based on tradition and resistance to political correctness and how much is based on a heartfelt belief that the word really isn’t so derogatory that is should be off-limits to teams.

Exit question: If you had to guess, would you guess that NFL players are more likely or less likely than the public at large to support keeping the name? Answer here.


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In r/e the shift/trend, as always, progressive hacks are as relentless as Herpes, so yes, in 5 years even more people will be against the Redskins name. It’s inevitable.

Tim Zank on September 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM

If Obumbles continues to neglect ISIS, they won’t need helmets.

hillsoftx on September 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM

So, the media and leftists live in a bubble. What else is new?

Aizen on September 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Not sure, but I think most of the players have black skin. Just sayin’

Galtian on September 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Why do we think we have mob rule? Especially the Twitter/ESPN mob?

faraway on September 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

In r/e the shift/trend, as always, progressive hacks are as relentless as Herpes, so yes, in 5 years even more people will be against the Redskins name. It’s inevitable.

Tim Zank on September 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Always hated the Redskins, since their home city was DC, basically, and a team worshiped inside the Beltway. However, now that the owner has stood his ground on this nonsense, count me as a fan.

I’ll be pulling for them this year, unless they crater to the PC police.

TXUS on September 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Rename them the Palefaces. I won’t be offended. Because I’m very pale.

rbj on September 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

What? No thread about a half-decent but not spectacular openly gay rookie getting completely cut from the Rams because, wait for it, his level of talent? The producers lined up for the reality TV show are probably the most upset of all.

When it comes to the Redskins, Dan Snyder is going to dictate when and if the name changes, not polls. And there is no universal drumbeat here in DC to dump the name.

That being said, there is a pernicious rumor that a vocal minority wants to change the name that really is an offensive slur. I speak of those who want the team to be called the Washington Senators.

Happy Nomad on September 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

And exactly 0% of the white liberal media. The weenie corps outs themselves as bedwetters, once again.

Jaibones on September 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I disagree with your analysis AP. This story is driven 100% by liberal sports journalists in DC, NYC, and Bristol. After pounding people over the head for years about how terrible we all are because we don’t understand racism the way they do, ONLY 23% of the respondents in this poll think the name should be changed. That is a huge failure of the liberal agenda.

No one else cares about this and it shows.

Captain Kirock on September 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53PM

Wrong side of history?

Is that like the 1,000 year Reich?

Who determines what is “the right side of history?” Oh right, liberals.

sentinelrules on September 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Exit question: If you had to guess, would you guess that NFL players are more likely or less likely than the public at large to support keeping the name?

If there was a “Who Gives a Flying Fluke?” option, I’d guess that would win overwhelminglyn

Now I’ll go follow the link to see how wrong I probably am …

ShainS on September 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Who determines what is “the right side of history?” Oh right, liberals.

sentinelrules on September 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53PM

You bullies are all the same. Wood burners are you. FO you pos. In fact, you’re lower than a pos.

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

So looking in the past does? History? You’re an idiot. Hilarious.

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

History determines it?

So, you have looked into the future? Come back from the future in your DeLorean?

sentinelrules on September 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

ESPN is driving much of this …funny how many years they and the Tiafucs could not figure it…but hey jump on the bandwagon Tiafuc. You’re cool!

POS.

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

History determines it?

So, you have looked into the future? Come back from the future in your DeLorean?

sentinelrules on September 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Tialoc is just another troll so full of itself it is forever damned to a life of insanity. One of the dumber posters I have ever encountered. That is saying a bunch.

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

So do our dictionaries now require polls to determine which words are acceptable to the pitchfork-carrying masses and which are not? If so, I’d better buy a bunch of pre-polling dictionaries really soon, before they’re out of print, so that I can teach my children language, not political correctness.

xNavigator on September 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Support will eventually crumble down to a 50-50 issue, with the NFL eventually forcing the Redskins to change the name.

El_Terrible on September 2, 2014 at 9:12 PM

If forced, the Redskins are forced to change their names, they should opt to honor the chief of the Powhatan tribe. Pocahontas’s dad, Wahunsonacock. What fans couldn’t make of the Washington Wahunsonacocks?

Happy Nomad on September 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

I just wanted to thank you for the rich irony, which clearly escapes you, of someone named “Tlaloc” talking about being run over by history. How are those Aztecs doing lately, eh? lol, thank you for displaying historical ignorance while mocking others about their historical ignorance. Might want to wash the tread marks off, then wait for another open-enrollment period for a better user-name!

xNavigator on September 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Tiafuc- History will show you kept your mouth shut about this issue until it became easy to jump aboard. Don’t worry you’re not alone. A bunch of your liberal brethren/pu$$ies did the same(including Bob Costas)

Hilarious.

How many years have the Redskins existed there buddy?

The Redskins were founded in 1932 . Costas was born in 52. What year were you born….oh all of those years of just allowing this horrible sin to continue while you said nothing. …..the guilt must just be killing you…. /

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014

Another unhinged whackjob who trolls for free.

CurtZHP on September 2, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Ummm can they get their trademark back that was yanked from them by bureaucratic thugs after these results?

Stray Cat on September 2, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

See? Just like Herpes…..

Tim Zank on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

If “Redskins” is a racist term, then “Whites” or “White America” are definitely racist terms. Small people (below 4 foot) think that “Giants” is a racist term. Shepherds have been brutalized, abused, robbed, murdered, etc. by Cowboys for decades…such treatment has to be a violation of Civil Rights, but America is too racist to help Shepherds (especially in Texas).

Still, Liberals will keep crying (with FULL support of MSM) until they get their way…

Karmi on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

What? No thread about a half-decent but not spectacular openly gay rookie getting completely cut from the Rams because, wait for it, his level of talent? The producers lined up for the reality TV show are probably the most upset of all.

When it comes to the Redskins, Dan Snyder is going to dictate when and if the name changes, not polls. And there is no universal drumbeat here in DC to dump the name.

That being said, there is a pernicious rumor that a vocal minority wants to change the name that really is an offensive slur. I speak of those who want the team to be called the Washington Senators.

Happy Nomad on September 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

You haven’t heard, the Cowgirls are picking him up for their practice squad.

RickB on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

History has shown that everything that liberals have touched has turned to shit. Sucks being on the wrong side of reality.

HumpBot Salvation on September 2, 2014 at 9:26 PM

The way liberals are acting you’d think the name was just chosen in the last couple of years rather than the last EIGHTY years.

CW on September 2, 2014 at 9:36 PM

The only category that matters is the Dan Snyder category, to bad the AA PC collective can’t handle the truth.

antipc on September 2, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Majority rules so shut up, forever and ever, world without end. Amen.

ExpressoBold on September 2, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

You would know race baiting leftist.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Karmi on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Hows the poaching business, criminal?

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

So the Lefties are out of step with the Left?

Maybe they should be called the Mulattoes.

formwiz on September 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

You haven’t heard, the Cowgirls are picking him up for their practice squad.

RickB on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

ESPN has the Cowboys-Redskins game on Oct. 27 in Arlington. Between Washington’s nickname and the fact Dallas’ defense was dead-last in the NFL in 2013 and Jones weakened it for this season — allowing Ware and Hatcher to leave for free agency (Hatcher to the Redskins), leaving the Cowboys’ front line a little shallow, to say the least. It means Sam probably has as good a chance to play here as anyplace else this side of Arena Football or the CFL.

I don’t even think the Jerrydome is going to be big enough to hold all the annoying pre-game hype ESPN’s going to throw out on this one. The only fun factor here is as much as liberals dislike football in general and hate the NFL in particular, they really hate the Cowboys because of the city and state the team represents. Progressive heads could explode on this one over the disconnect (they’d feel better about it if the Cowboys played in Austin), with the worse cases being the liberals who actually like football but live in the NFC East’s Washington-Philadelphia-New York corridor and root for those teams.

jon1979 on September 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

It matter not what 71% of the American people desire, the left has decided this is a cross they are willing to die on and they will not rest until, well, they die. Works for me :-)

Dan_NV on September 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Sorry, forgot to link it.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 10:03 PM

These stats must really hurt the Religion of the Perpetually Offended.

GarandFan on September 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

What a biased report. No mention of the 100% of the 1/32 Native American Indians in the US Senate who are against the name Redskins.

Buckshots on September 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Just want to point out:

My Wildcats AND Browns are undefeated in football right now.

last week I’ll be able to say that probably.

ConstantineXI on September 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53PM

Have you asked the students & faculty at Red Mesa High School that same question?

tanked59 on September 2, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Has the “canon of What Good Progressives Believe” been clearly and thoughtfully defined somewhere already?

MT on September 2, 2014 at 11:09 PM

What a biased report. No mention of the 100% of the 1/32 Native American Indians in the US Senate who are against the name Redskins.

Buckshots on September 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Well, the fact that they apparently didn’t survey the affected group is kind of noteworthy. Seems to me that if you’re trying to determine whether the name is offensive to a particular racial/ethnic group, you should probably ask people from that group. If the team were named the D.C. Crackers, whites might be a bit more understanding.

cam2 on September 2, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Who determines what is “the right side of history?” Oh right, liberals.

sentinelrules on September 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

.
The almighty, living God … which really annoys the CRAP outta’ liberals.
.

History determines the right side of history, duh. I would think having been run over by it so often lately you would have figured that out…

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

.
History is NOT an “intelligent, self-aware” personality . . . . . God is.

All any of us do is argue over conflicting accounts of certain historic events, and the causes & effects of previous historic events, that we agree did happen..

listens2glenn on September 2, 2014 at 11:13 PM

If the team were named the D.C. Crackers, whites might be a bit more understanding.

cam2 on September 2, 2014 at 11:11 PM

In what universe is that equivalent?

Ronnie on September 3, 2014 at 12:36 AM

The one thing in Washington DC that brings people together is the Redskins. It’s the way it is. That’s why they are trying to divide the populace.

BetseyRoss on September 3, 2014 at 12:39 AM

ESPN poll: 71% support team keeping “Redskins” name — including 53% of liberals

ALTERNATE HEADLINE:

Political Correctness JUMPS THE SHARK!!!

landlines on September 3, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Would LOVE to have a team in the NFL called the Conquistadors.
They’d play the Redskins on Columbus Day and kick their red tails up and down the field.

Liberals heads would be exploding left and right.
And this coming from a Redskins fan.

Sucks being on the wrong side of history, huh?

Tlaloc on September 2, 2014 at 8:53PM

It must really suck to have entire stone age civilizations wiped out on two continents by a bunch ‘o Europeans.

Bubba Redneck on September 3, 2014 at 3:01 AM

What? No thread about a half-decent but not spectacular openly gay rookie getting completely cut from the Rams because, wait for it, his level of talent? The producers lined up for the reality TV show are probably the most upset of all.

When it comes to the Redskins, Dan Snyder is going to dictate when and if the name changes, not polls. And there is no universal drumbeat here in DC to dump the name.

That being said, there is a pernicious rumor that a vocal minority wants to change the name that really is an offensive slur. I speak of those who want the team to be called the Washington Senators.

Happy Nomad on September 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

You haven’t heard, the Cowgirls are picking him up for their practice squad.

RickB on September 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

He’s gonna be a cheerleader now?

Bubba Redneck on September 3, 2014 at 3:03 AM

History is not an inevitable march to the left. In 10 years the number will probably be higher.

K. Hobbit on September 3, 2014 at 6:20 AM

Hmmm. Did the left misfire its PC weapon only to find that its a dud? This means that there will be less attention and care given to their next target, I assume.

Don L on September 3, 2014 at 7:12 AM

He’s gonna be a cheerleader now?

Bubba Redneck on September 3, 2014 at 3:03 AM

How’s that diversity thing going in the Lingerie League?

Don L on September 3, 2014 at 7:14 AM

As a Native American but describe myself as American (we never use Cherokee – Blackfoot to describe who we are, why do you?). If you can use black or brown to describe some one, then why are you so bigoted against my people to say that redskin is a dirty word?

pwb on September 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM

The Husband saw Gary Clark discuss the name after a preseason game last week and said he was very eloquent about keeping the name.

Cindy Munford on September 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM

hell if it were me I would rename them something extremely offensive just to piss people off.

dmacleo on September 3, 2014 at 9:05 AM

How about

Scarlet Indigenous Scalpers

or

Crimson Aborigines

MaiDee on September 3, 2014 at 9:39 AM

As a Native American but describe myself as American (we never use Cherokee – Blackfoot to describe who we are, why do you?). If you can use black or brown to describe some one, then why are you so bigoted against my people to say that redskin is a dirty word?

pwb on September 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM

Speaking of Blackfeet, in France the French colonists who settled in Morocco and Algeria and their descendants are called “pieds noirs”, (black feet), but they are of the Caucasian race. Are any of them offended? Non!

Steve Z on September 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM