Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on August 31, 2014 by Allahpundit

Mitt Romney suggested he would have been able to prevent the rise of the jihadist group Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) if he were elected rather than President Barack Obama in 2012 during a radio interview that aired Sunday. According to Romney, Obama’s “mistakes” enabled Islamic State to gain power in both Syria and Iraq.

“Mistakes were made and now we have ISIS,” Romney said in a pre-taped interview on billionaire John Catsimatidis’ show on New York City’s AM 970…

“Almost a year ago, American intelligence sources told the president that there was a group forming called ISIS … and that there was a significant chance that they would go into Iraq and invade a city there. The president failed to take action. He watched,” Romney said. “We saw ISIS roll into Iraq and, instead of attacking them immediately and knocking them in their convoy when they would have been easy to knock down, relatively easy to knock down, the president again watched. And now we’re in a position where ISIS has run throughout major portions of Iraq. There have been horrific human rights abuses, tragedies.”

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[Gohmert] reacted to Obama’s announcement that the United States does not have a strategy on ISIS by saying, “He did say we don’t have a strategy, but he followed that up by saying the strategy is to nip it in the bud. Well, unfortunately it’s not in a bud, it’s full blossomed, and do you know who made that line famous? Barney Fife. We have Barney Fife running our foreign policy now.”

Gohmert added, “He touches on Russia, that Russia is more isolated than ever. Are you kidding? They have been filling the void that this president has created around the world. I don’t know where he’s getting his information. maybe it’s CIA Director Brennan who said earlier this year that, ‘no, these guys don’t want a caliphate.’ he must have his head buried in a hole somewhere on the first green.”

And, “This president seems to be very feckless. He seems to twitter and ditter, and if you look at what their strategy was with regard to Russia, they were going to step up their Twitter campaign because the Russians didn’t really understand how effective that could be. Neither do most of us. This is a pitiful foreign policy, and Barney Fife’s in charge.”

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But as he tried to engage the world on his terms, Obama quickly found out that the world had thoughts and plans of its own. Far from the reset Obama sought with Russia, President Vladimir Putin sought a new balance of power through aggression in Ukraine. While Obama offered a fresh start for the United States in the Muslim world, the Arab Spring headed toward destabilization rather than democracy.

Six years later, events seem to have spun out of his control, and Obama must react to the actions of others…

Jim Lindsay, senior vice president at the Council on Foreign Relations, said Obama’s inability to inspire confidence among critics has more to do with the complexity of the problems than the president’s leadership style. “He has a sort of perfect storm of messy problems, lousy options, ambivalent allies and a skeptical public,” he said…

Kennedy, the historian, said that Obama, in dealing with multiple crises, also is trying to change perceptions of what U.S. leadership and any president can realistically accomplish. “It’s difficult virtually to the point of impossibility to have a grand strategy in a world that is so fluid and in which we no longer yield the power we once had. In a sense that is Obama’s strategy, a recognition of that fact. So that rhetorically as well as in reality, he’s trying to diminish the expectation that we can control events.”

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One can only imagine the whiplash that foreign leaders must be suffering. They heard U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power denounce Russia as “today . . . they open a new front . . . Russia’s force along the border is the largest it has been . . . the mask is coming off.” An hour later, Mr. Obama implicitly contradicted her: “I consider the actions that we’ve seen in the last week a continuation of what’s been taking place for months now . . . it’s not really a shift.”…

Which is, in the end, the most disturbing aspect of Mr. Obama’s performance. Throughout his presidency, he has excelled at explaining what the United States cannot do and cannot afford, and his remarks Thursday were no exception. “Ukraine is not a member of NATO,” he said. “We don’t have those treaty obligations with Ukraine.” If Iraq doesn’t form an acceptable government, it’s “unrealistic” to think the United States can defeat the Islamic State.

Allies are vital; the United States overstretched in the Bush years; it can’t solve every problem. All true. But it’s also true that none of the basic challenges to world order can be met without U.S. leadership: not Russia’s aggression, not the Islamic State’s expansion, not Iran’s nuclear ambition nor China’s territorial bullying. Each demands a different policy response, with military action and deterrence only two tools in a basket that includes diplomatic and economic measures. It’s time Mr. Obama started emphasizing what the United States can do instead of what it cannot.

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Obama and his advisers have at times taken refuge in a self-absolving logic: We can’t force people in other countries to unite around our agenda, so, if they don’t, whatever calamity unfolds is their responsibility. As a retreat from American hubris, this form of realism has appeal. As a contribution to a stable Middle East, it has failed utterly

The group’s lightning rise is a symptom, however, of deeper instability; a cause of that instability is failed international policy in Iraq and Syria. If the United States is returning to war in the region, one might wish for a more considered vision than Whack-a-Mole against jihadists…

Leading a coalition of this character is hard, uncertain work. George H. W. Bush, the President whose foreign policy Obama seems to admire most, did it successfully in the runup to the Gulf War of 1991, by intensive personal engagement. Obama has more than two years left in the White House. To defeat ISIS, but also to reduce its source of strength, will require the President to risk his credibility on more than just air strikes.

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Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko just met with President Obama in Washington, but Obama’s subsequent statement showed no sign he’s willing to acknowledge reality. Generic wishes about “mobilizing the international community” were bad enough six months ago. Hearing them repeated as Ukrainian towns fall to Russian troops is a parody. (If legitimacy is what Obama is after, Russia is clearly in violation of nearly every point of the 1974 UN Resolution 3314, “definition of aggression.”) Perhaps Poroshenko should have matched Obama’s casual wardrobe by wearing a t-shirt that read “It’s a War, Stupid.” As Russian tanks and artillery push back the overmatched Ukrainian forces, Obama’s repeated insistence that there is no military solution in Ukraine sounds increasingly delusional. There is no time to teach a drowning man to swim.

The United States, Canada, and even Europe have responded to Putin’s aggression, it is true, but always a few moves behind, always after the deterrent potential of each action had passed. Strong sanctions and a clear demonstration of support for Ukrainian territorial integrity (as I recommended at the time) would have had real impact when Putin moved on Crimea in February and March. A sign that there would be real consequences would have split his elites as they pondered the loss of their coveted assets in New York and London…

The Russian military commanders, the ones in the field, are not fools. They are aware that NATO is watching and could blow them to bits in a moment. They rely on Putin’s aura of invincibility, which grows every day the West refuses to provide Ukraine with military support. Those commanders must be made to understand that they are facing an overwhelming force, that their lives are in grave danger, that they can and will be captured and prosecuted. To make this a credible threat requires immediate military aid, if not yet the “boots on the ground” everyone but Putin is so keen to avoid. If NATO nations refuse to send lethal aid to Ukraine now it will be yet another green light to Putin.

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Worst of all, the constant calls for a quick and usually muscular response to perceived national security threats gives Americans a false sense of insecurity. The fact is, while people may be relentlessly, breathlessly trying to make us believe that we’re on the cusp of World War III, the world is actually pretty safe…

Geographically isolated with a host of global security alliances and close allies, America is particularly safe. Perhaps most important, there are so many more tools, from global institutions and international legal structures (and broadly accepted global norms) to non-governmental and regional organizations as well as conflict resolution mechanisms, all oriented toward preventing and containing wars.

This is much more than just a feel-good story. These facts are a reminder that the global stakes are much lower than they were in the past, which makes it essential for policymakers to choose their battles wisely and raise the bar extremely high for America to get involved, militarily, in foreign conflicts…

But the recognition that any U.S. strategy will be dependent on the contributions of others, will develop and evolve over time and, above all, cannot be constructed on the fly, should be welcomed. While U.S. engagement may help defeat ISIS, it almost certainly will not be decisive. Inevitably it is Iraqis who will shape the destiny of Iraq.

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The Obama administration’s lack of any clearly defined international strategy is in some ways the strongest argument against its supposed realism. Obama may often look for pragmatic approaches to individual foreign-policy issues, but in the absence of an overarching strategy, his pragmatism in isolated cases doesn’t build toward any larger objectives. At the same time, Obama’s pragmatism is politically driven at its core, often placing domestic struggles and standing ahead of foreign-policy outcomes. This distorts the decision-making process and produces policies that may sound pragmatic but are actually unlikely to succeed and thus largely unprincipled. His mutually contradictory policies on opposite sides of the Iraq-Syria border are one example; his approaches to China and Russia, which risk simultaneous and thus doubly dangerous confrontations with each, are another. The latter could have profound consequences for America.

To be clear, most realists agree that “nation building at home” is important to the prosperity that creates the foundation for America’s global power. But “nation building at home” is a goal, not a strategy, and it requires a foreign-policy strategy founded on engagement and leadership to succeed. Moreover, for all his criticism of “self-described realists” who don’t want to get too involved in other people’s problems, Obama himself is the one who is doing as little as is (politically) possible in international affairs. Obama’s response to security challenges usually appears intended to do enough to avoid severe domestic criticism while simultaneously avoiding doing so much that it becomes a distraction. Hence the surge in Afghanistan before the withdrawal, the “leading from behind” in Libya, modest support for Syria’s opposition, ineffective sanctions against Russia as a substitute for a real policy and a bare-minimum response in Iraq. The administration has tried to clothe all of these policies in realistic-sounding rhetoric, but in fact there was little realism involved because there is no serious strategy.

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How to deal with the Islamic State right now is a very tough question, particularly if you’re Barack Obama. What bothers me is his decision to announce to the world he has pretty much no idea what he’s doing. Taking your time to formulate a strategy, even — especially! — a strategy necessitated by your own mistakes and inattention is entirely defensible.

But when the world already thinks you’re weak, vacillating, and overwhelmed, saying in the pithiest way possible that you’re weak, vacillating, and overwhelmed strikes me as a mistake…

The reality, alas, is that Obama is — and has always been — out of his depth on the international stage. Given the prestige of the presidency and the incredible institutional forces behind the office, particularly when a liberal is elected, it takes time to burn through all of the political capital that comes with the job. But Obama has been throwing that political capital on an Oval Office bonfire like so much kindling on a clean and safe Anchorage night. In yet another metaphor that threatens to burn out the dilithium crystals, the credibility inferno is reaching China Syndrome proportions (“You should have said ‘literally’ a lot! Literally means ‘pay attention to how smart my metaphors are.’ Wheeeeee!” — Joe Biden)…

Remember the famous SNL clip where Phil Hartman plays Ronald Reagan? He’s an amiable dunce in public, but get him behind closed doors and he’s a master strategist? Well, maybe that stuff about Obama being the liberal opposite of Reagan is true. Out in public, he seems like he’s the Chess Master (though I never saw it). But get him behind closed doors and he’s in the chair next to Biden shouting “I can spin faster than you!”

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Via Mediaite.

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Engel also reported that military commanders are “apoplectic” over the president’s inaction in Syria: “I speak to military commanders, I speak to former officials, and they are apoplectic. They think that this is a clear and present danger. They think something needs to be done.”

“One official said that this was a Freudian slip,” Engel continued, referring to Obama’s admission last week that he does not have a strategy yet for Syria. “That it shows how the United States does not have a policy to deal with Syria, even when you have ISIS, which has effectively become a terrorist army, roughly 20,000 strong.”


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31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 2:47 AM

God Bless you, giddyup!

williamg on September 1, 2014 at 3:22 AM

Bishop! Page 6 – but still….

williamg on September 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Four guitarists: Eric Clapton, Mick Taylor and two more (i forget). Can’t remember much more.

gh on September 1, 2014 at 12:02 AM

Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck…

oscarwilde on September 1, 2014 at 12:04 AM

……Peter Green was with The Bluesbreakers…..Page and Beck (and Clapton) were Yardbirds…

williamg on September 1, 2014 at 3:27 AM

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:17 AM

I like to fish and hunt. I collect guns and gun books. I used to shoot a lot of pool. I was a ski patroller for 15 years. I like to cook. One of my current projects is motorizing an old Enterprise meat grinder. I’m trying to do it using stuff I can recycle. I want to take three deer this fall and stop buying beef. If I can find a place in Indiana to take a couple of pigs, I won’t need to buy pork either. We have some pigs in the southern part of the state, but I don’t have any contacts down there. I’m going to check with the DNR and see if they can connect me with landowners who have pig problems or public land where they’re a problem. We used to have good pheasant hunting around here but no more. Too many coyotes and not enough habitat left. I catch all the fish I eat.

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 3:31 AM

Evening Nova, here’s one for you Cephus and Wiggins piedmont blues style.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rFs0fm_Btyk

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:33 AM

Whoa, dedication there Miss Kitty. Thank you on behalf of all the people you helped.
I was 18 months old when Ma plopped me on a pony. A photographer and his horse would go from house to house to take pictures of kids on his horse. Somewhat of a novelty considering the hood. Anyway, love at first site for me. Like Scrumpy, I learned how to ride bare back before getting into a saddle. I also did volunteer work as a handler for disabled kids who did horseback riding therapy. Best work ever. Thank you for your encouragement!

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:35 AM

Good Bishop there Wg. Thank you for the blessing…back atcha. (((hugs)))

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:39 AM

I would like to inform the so called president of the United States that I’m sitting probably no more that 500 metres from at least one more likely more ISIL cells as I speak (I realized this yesterday). As I live next door to the biggest Muslim population of Paris. I remember gay Muslim friends telling me they were frightened inside their home ten years ago. I dread to think how they feel now. And as the Saudis are saying, what’s in Europe is in the US a month later.

As to we can do nothing, thank goodness Churchill didn’t think that. Obama/Chamberlain/Daladier même combat.

It’s strange how the US can do nothing but Russia, China and Isil can do plenty. It’s a strange feeling when Isil is more cando than the nation which invented the cando attitude.

And lastly, if he really can’t interrupt golfing to do something, then he should resign and let someone else act. People are dying in their hundreds of thousands. It’s got to the point where we forget the small matter of an ebola outbreak. The situation is disintegrating as we speak. And the guy is out fundraising ? And it’s all due to twitter? The guy is a criminally negligent dunce.

Esperanza on September 1, 2014 at 3:39 AM

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:33 AM

That was sooooo good. Thank you.

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 3:43 AM

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 3:31 AM
Hey Nova, that’s pretty interesting, I bet you have some great stories from your ski patrol days. That’s a special skill for sure. I learned to shoot shotgun a few years ago, it’s fun, but I kind of suck at it, I’m blaiming my crappy eyesight, ha! I’d like to try hunting, but I’d have to get over the Bambi thing if you know what I mean.

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:45 AM

Dire straits was here..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM

I like to fish and hunt. I collect guns and gun books. I used to shoot a lot of pool. I was a ski patroller for 15 years. I like to cook. One of my current projects is motorizing an old Enterprise meat grinder. I’m trying to do it using stuff I can recycle. I want to take three deer this fall and stop buying beef. If I can find a place in Indiana to take a couple of pigs, I won’t need to buy pork either. We have some pigs in the southern part of the state, but I don’t have any contacts down there. I’m going to check with the DNR and see if they can connect me with landowners who have pig problems or public land where they’re a problem. We used to have good pheasant hunting around here but no more. Too many coyotes and not enough habitat left. I catch all the fish I eat.

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 3:31 AM

You’re in Colorado, right?
Lucky to get out and do those things. My brother and Pa used to hunt all that you listed above in the San Jose hills before the masses came. They then headed to the Eastern side of the Sierras, around Bishop somewhere.
I miss eating deer meat. I never learned how to play pool or how to ski. Think I’d be one of those people, who in all the snow covered acreage, would find that one odd ball tree and hit it. Patrolling had to have had it’s fun moments as well as serious. What I wouldn’t do for a German Brown or Rainbow trout…. sigh….

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM

Little Walter blues man
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRgVFVlrXw

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:50 AM

Good evening Dire….. :) whatcha been up to? Just us late night peelps here, all the rest bailed early.

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:54 AM

Evening, morning, or sumpin like the Dire.
I’m here, not there. Should be elsewhere.

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:56 AM

Indiana not Colorado. Note to self, no more speed reading.

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:58 AM

Dire, still here? Race day right? Who won?

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 4:05 AM

Joel Sonnier and Richard Thompson Tear Stained Letter
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeLfKPg-d1g

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 4:13 AM

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 3:45 AM

If your vision is correctable you should be able to shoot well enough to hunt. and you don’t aim a shotgun so much as point it. With practice you know how to move the gun to lead a flying target; you see the whole end of your gun and the bird and you know when you have the right solution and pull the trigger. Get someone to throw clay birds for you, going up and quartering away. Master that shot and you’ll have the rhythm.

I really enjoy shooting black powder guns. You might enjoy that too. Not only is there real craft in the shooting because the lock time is much longer, but every load is a handload. If you hunt with a muzzle loader, you have to make the first shot count. I love the hunt but I take no pleasure in the killing. I do enjoy the cooking and the eating.

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM

I had some great experiences patrolling. I did avalanche control and search and rescue training in Utah. Went out of bounds to dig test trenches in slide zones and went up on avalanche routes with the Alta patrol and threw dynamite. That was fun.

I live in NW Indiana. By the way, we have some of the finest salmon fishing in the world here. There are huge fish in Lake Michigan, and they move up into the tributaries to spawn. Just try to land a 20 lb fish in a creek that’s 10 feet wide and full of snags.

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 4:13 AM

Hi Dire. I f you need an alibi, I can testify you were here.

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 4:15 AM

Time to hit the hay.
Thank you Miss Kitty for the tunes.
Wg for the blessing.
Nova, you’ll get those deer, just know it and the pigs too. (I want your fish though.)
Esperanza, were stuck with bams, no one will trade for him. What’s happening now has been planned way in advance and he’s a part of it. I’m waiting for those in Washington, who are suppose to be working for us and protecting us (and took an oath to do so) to get off their bums and get busy at doing their jobs.
rant over

Night Dire. ; )

Nice chatting to you all.

Good morning COL and (((hugs))).
I know you’re not feeling better so I hope today passes fast so you can see the doc soon.

Blessings to all…

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 4:16 AM

I just scanned back up the posts I missed and realized I made a typo at 3:31. I was a patroller for 25 years

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 4:17 AM

G’nite 31

novaculus on September 1, 2014 at 4:18 AM

Salmon too…just rip my heart out…. quit making me trying to not like you…hehe.. 25 years!!! Dang, that’s a lot of hot chocolate or rum or chicken soup….
G’nite

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 4:23 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfhsLuOEWI
Hesitation Blues last song for me.
And good night my friends, sleep well . Can’t keep my peepers open .

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 4:37 AM

Nova thanks for the shooting tips…,I’ll work on that with the Benelli,20g, Citori 12g…sure got the big bruise the first time learning , I was proud of it :)). Yes I have a left eye dot-patch to keep the eye from crossing over . Right eye dominate. Good night :))

Bakokitty on September 1, 2014 at 4:47 AM

He’s fighting in diapers while the enemy wears his diapers on their heads.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Thread winner :)

Esperanza on September 1, 2014 at 4:59 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. The traffic guy says there’s no traffic but he’s going to keep on it just in case something happens.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 5:39 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. The traffic guy says there’s no traffic but he’s going to keep on it just in case something happens.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 5:39 AM

You feeling any better and/or just waiting for Tuesday.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 7:40 AM

Hanging in until tomorrow when I hope I can get somebody to do something. How is the bigfoot hunt going?

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Happy Labor Day, y’all!

What happened to Jerry Lewis, seems to be happening to American Society in general.

My take: Labor Day 2014: What the Heck Happened to Jerry Lewis and the MDA Telethon?

kingsjester on September 1, 2014 at 8:29 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. The traffic guy says there’s no traffic but he’s going to keep on it just in case something happens.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 5:39 AM

Morning COL, 88F and humidity in the 70s. Most of the family is back and The Wife is smoking a beef brisket and it should be ready in ten more hours. I bought her an electric smoker for Christmas last year and she rarely uses the wood smoker anymore.

Hope you sort thing out tomorrow and have a good day. Happy Labour Day you and all the rest.

HonestLib on September 1, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Morning y’all

Apparently nothing major is going on in the world so msdnc is focusing on the McDonnell case

Sheesh

cmsinaz on September 1, 2014 at 8:40 AM

I have to mow the lawn. I don’t want to mow the lawn.

Cindy Munford on September 1, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Hanging in until tomorrow when I hope I can get somebody to do something. How is the bigfoot hunt going?

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 8:25 AM

I hope you find out something from the doc on Tuesday.

Mission accomplished.

Meaning I managed to spend my first night in the woods since I was 16 without having to call flight-for-life.

The tent I purchased was really too small for someone as “round” as I am (although it felt fine when I set it up in the living room), the mummy sleeping bag my partner surprised me with before the trip was too small, I had to throw it over me and tuck in the edges.

I had two legs cramps in the middle of the night (one for each leg) and I bolted out of the tent both times, in my underpants and bare feet (I hate walking in bare feet), dancing around like I was doing some Native-American dance (no pictures of that, sorry)

Scared the two other guys too.

Didn’t sight any Bigfoot, didn’t hear any Bigfoot, no “eye shine,” no smells (except in my tent), no noises I couldn’t identify (had a bear roaming around the camp about two a.m.), no poop on the ground that wasn’t identifiable and no big foot prints.

Lots of Bigfoot activity in the area. Bent trees, broken trees, dead branches laying around… the sort of stuff you never see in the woods.

If was in the high 30′s, rather nippy and then to end the trip, it seems like my intrepid explorers had driven onto a forest service road that was not open to motorized vehicles. There was no sign indicating that where we headed off road, but the nice Colorado Park and Wildlife police slapped them each with a $100 fine.

And made us break camp. So the hunt only lasted one night. But all in all it was fun and I have the framework and angle for my article.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM

I have to mow the lawn. I don’t want to mow the lawn.

Cindy Munford on September 1, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Mine needs it but fortunately I can’t haul that mower around in my condition.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:24 AM

And made us break camp. So the hunt only lasted one night. But all in all it was fun and I have the framework and angle for my article.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM

Well at least you have a story and that was what it was about.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Lots of Bigfoot activity in the area. Bent trees, broken trees, dead branches laying around… the sort of stuff you never see in the woods.

It never occurs to anyone that bears would do that too.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Bears, heck some of my friends and I would have done that when we were younger. We would today, but our bones would creak too much.

Tinker on September 1, 2014 at 9:43 AM

It never occurs to anyone that bears would do that too.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM

A lot has occurred to me. That’s what my two Bigfoot hunter friends claims. My article will basically be framed in three parts. How to have a Bigfoot hunt, what these Bigfoot believers think about Bigfoot and what the skeptics say about it.

I will also include a little section about for camping and accessing Forest Service land. It appears that some people still don’t know the rules.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 9:46 AM

I will also include a little section about for camping and accessing Forest Service land. It appears that some people still don’t know the rules.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Park people have become storm troopers. You need to look up what the actual rules are.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Park people have become storm troopers. You need to look up what the actual rules are.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM

That’s what I intend to do. I deal with a lot of park service people for other stories I write. I’ve never even seen park service “police.” But they have more toys around their belts than Batman. And they pack heat too.

Walter L. Newton on September 1, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Morning Walter,
What an adventure you had! Love your humor. “Call for lifeline…” too funny.
Try magnesium for those leg cramps (to help prevent them.
Sad forest service have to be armed.
Due to hubs jobs/career, we moved around a lot.
If I couldn’t find work, I volunteered a lot.
One job was assisting at jr. college forestry dept. (about 20 years ago now).
One instructor raised and home schooled his five boys in the backwoods of Yosemite. They all went to University.
If I remember right, park service weren’t allowed to carry guns at the time (don’t know if they do now in Yosemite.) When they did wear arms, it was because they were hunting themselves or protecting themselves/home from big critters
He had some hair raising stories about coming across drunk/irate illegal hunters, pot growers, and bear killers (for the Asian medicinal market, at that time, don’t know if there is still an issue with that).
Anyway, I could see why they carry now, bigger population in criminal drug related peeps.

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Sad forest service have to be armed.

Yeah, a couple of harmless bigfoot hunters are such a threat.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Sad forest service have to be armed.

Yeah, a couple of harmless bigfoot hunters are such a threat.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Rangers don’t know if they are harmless or not until they check out the campsite. Can’t run back to the office to fetch arms if they come upon armed peeps.
Oh, forgot to say how the pot growers would put booby traps where they thought peeps would approach their pot growing fields too. Being a park ranger isn’t what it used to be, gotta over see the two legged critters more than the four legged.

Wow, I was curious to read more about the problem, just searched and found these. Sheesh:

A Park Ranger’s Life – note paragraph about armed guards used at the the pot farms
http://aparkrangerslife.blogspot.com/2009/09/marijuana-growing-in-national-parks.html

The problems we have in CA:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Illegal-Marijuana-Growers-National-Parks-Trashed-Animals-Toxic-229943491.html

On the national level:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/27/drug-traffickers-target-national-forests/1795001/

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM

According to Romney, Obama’s “mistakes” enabled Islamic State to gain power in both Syria and Iraq.

What, Romney don’t read the LA Times?

Revealed: U.S. has been secretly training Syrian rebels in anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons for months
posted at 2:31 pm on June 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

CIA operatives and U.S. special operations troops have been secretly training Syrian rebels with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late last year, months before President Obama approved plans to begin directly arming them, according to U.S. officials and rebel commanders…

The two-week courses include training with Russian-designed 14.5-millimeter anti-tank rifles, anti-tank missiles, as well as 23-millimeter anti-aircraft weapons, according to a rebel commander in the Syrian province of Dara who helps oversee weapons acquisitions and who asked his name not be used because the program is secret…

The rebels were promised enough armor-piercing anti-tank weapons and other arms to gain a military advantage over Assad’s better-equipped army and security forces, said the Dara commander.

But arms shipments from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries, provided with assent from the Americans, took months to arrive and included less than the rebels had expected.
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But rest assured, only the good rebels got them weapons and training (through Benghazi).

Akzed on September 1, 2014 at 2:35 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/27/drug-traffickers-target-national-forests/1795001/

31giddyup on September 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM

The ranger and the park manager used to both carry a gun. The manager usually isn’t involved in law enforcement but they were looking for somebody and he happened on him accidentally. Now the ranger is the park manager.

They’ve had to do some rearranging. They don’t want to admit there are funding problems. The manager we used to have was sent to another lake and the manager from the big lake up north was also managing this one. Then for some reason we lost him and they made the ranger manager since he was actually doing that anyway. The ranger and the manager don’t work for the same entity. Typical bureaucratic nonsense.

crankyoldlady on September 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM

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