Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on August 30, 2014 by Allahpundit

In a polarized region and a complicated world, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria presents a unifying threat to a broad array of countries, including the United States. What’s needed to confront its nihilistic vision and genocidal agenda is a global coalition using political, humanitarian, economic, law enforcement and intelligence tools to support military force…

The United States will hold the presidency of the United Nations Security Council in September, and we will use that opportunity to continue to build a broad coalition and highlight the danger posed by foreign terrorist fighters, including those who have joined ISIS. During the General Assembly session, President Obama will lead a summit meeting of the Security Council to put forward a plan to deal with this collective threat.

In this battle, there is a role for almost every country. Some will provide military assistance, direct and indirect. Some will provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance for the millions who have been displaced and victimized across the region. Others will help restore not just shattered economies but broken trust among neighbors. This effort is underway in Iraq, where other countries have joined us in providing humanitarian aid, military assistance and support for an inclusive government.

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“This is a really very different phenomenon,” said Bruce Hoffman, a professor at Georgetown University specializing in terrorism issues. “It has the kinetic power, the recruiting power, and the finances that, unchecked, are just going to continue to grow.”

With an eye toward the alarming implications, U.S. intelligence officials said they are assessing the group’s vulnerabilities and how to exploit them.

Those vulnerabilities include their self-financing. The Islamic State runs a self-sustaining economy that relies on income from oil piracy and extortion, according to Arab and Western officials. But its financial stability as a de facto state could come under strain as the group has to pay salaries to its growing militant ranks and administer the cities it has overtaken, intelligence officials said.

The group also relies on extortion among the population in its territory, governing through fear. Such tactics could alienate the group’s local Sunni allies.

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King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has warned that the West will be the next target of the jihadists sweeping through Syria and Iraq, unless there is “rapid” action.

“If we ignore them, I am sure they will reach Europe in a month and America in another month,” he said in remarks quoted on Saturday by Asharq al-Awsat daily and Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television station.

“Terrorism knows no border and its danger could affect several countries outside the Middle East,” said the king who was speaking at a welcoming ceremony on Friday for new ambassadors, including a new envoy from Saudi ally the United States.

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Such a plan would seek to strengthen partners who are already resisting ISIS: the Kurdish pesh merga, Sunni tribes, moderate forces in Syria, and effective units of Iraq’s security forces. Our partners are the boots on the ground, and the United States should provide them directly with arms, intelligence and other military assistance. This does not, however, mean supporting Iranian military forces, whose presence only exacerbates sectarian tensions that empower ISIS.

We should embed additional United States special forces and advisers with our partners on the ground — not to engage in combat, but to help our partners fight ISIS and direct airstrikes against it. Regional allies should play a key role in this effort. No one is advocating unilateral invasion, occupation or nation-building. This should be more like Afghanistan in 2001, where limited numbers of advisers helped local forces, with airstrikes and military aid, to rout an extremist army.

Still, we must face facts: A comprehensive strategy to defeat ISIS would require more troops, assets, resources and time. Such an undertaking should involve Congress. We have consistently advocated revising the Authorization for Use of Military Force that has provided congressional backing for counterterrorism operations since September 2001. Now could be the right time to update this authorization in light of evolving terrorist threats like ISIS. If Mr. Obama provides a coherent strategy and determined leadership, he could win Congress’s support.

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Military pressure will limit ISIS’s ability to plan and train fighters. It destroys equipment and kills fighters. Most importantly, it will remove their ability to set the terms of the conflict, because they’d be playing defense rather than offense. [They depend on their] mobility and ability to generate tactical surprise. So if you limit ISIS’s ability to plan and carry out campaigns, that’s a major blow to them…

What I worry about is the presumption that doing this kind of damage is the same as destroying ISIS. We had 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq during the surge, ISIS’s predecessor was far weaker at that time than ISIS is now, and we still didn’t manage to destroy them. You can do a lot of damage – putting an organization like this on its back foot means a lot in terms of their ability to project power, and we can take the pressure off other groups in the region that are fighting them – but that is a far cry from destroying it. People misunderstood our successes in 2008 as a total defeat, and it was not. If our goal is ISIS’s annihilation, that is a much different undertaking than a goal to merely contain ISIS and limit the damage they can do in the short run.

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The problems of applying a social justice framework to international crisis are not unlike applying a cold war formulation to, say, welfare reform. It just doesn’t work. After the horror of James Foley’s murder, President Obama said of ISIS: “People like this ultimately fail. They fail because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.”

A nice turn of phrase, but is it remotely accurate? Don’t maniacal movements like ISIS end only when good people rise up with the willingness to die to stop them? The President frequently touts his international culture background as proof of his understanding of other cultures. “I say this as the son of a Kenyan whose grandfather was a cook for the British, and as a person who once lived in Indonesia as it emerged from colonialism,” he said in Brussels when addressing the Russia-Ukrainian crisis. But it seems incredibly naïve and American-centric not to grasp that the Islamic fanatics of ISIS are very much about building—building a new world in their vision.

Most troubling, when America and the world are crying out for action and leadership, this homily is a call for inaction cloaked in moral smugness. If ISIS will “ultimately fail,” why the need to do anything? At best, it is what Jonah Goldberg deftly paraphrases as, ““You’re going to lose eventually, so why don’t you give up now.”…

Hillary Clinton correctly observed that “Don’t do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle” for a great nation. Neither is “people like this ultimately fail” a moral framework to prosecute a war against those who seek to destroy our values.

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While ripping Obama for having no Islamic State strategy, Republicans are now reviving the inane strategy of supporting the illusory “moderate Syrian opposition.” Those would be the same forces they wanted to support against Assad. The only problem was that there aren’t enough real moderates in Syria to mount a meaningful challenge to the regime. The backbone of the opposition to Assad has always been the Muslim Brotherhood, and the most effective fighters against the regime have always been the jihadists. So we’re back to where we started from: Let’s pretend that there is a viable, moderate, democratic Syrian opposition and that we have sufficient intelligence — in a place where we have sparse intelligence — to vet them so we arm only the good guys; and then let’s arm them, knowing that they have seamlessly allied for years with the anti-American terrorists we are delegating them to fight on our behalf. Perfect.

There is no excuse for a president of the United States to have no strategy against an obvious threat to the United States. But at least with Obama, it is understandable. He is hemmed in by his own ideology and demagoguery. The main challenge in the Middle East is not the Islamic State; it is the fact that the Islamic State and its al-Qaeda forebears have been fueled by Iran, which supports both Sunni and Shiite terrorism as long as it is directed at the United States. There cannot be a coherent strategy against Islamic supremacism unless the state sponsors of terrorism are accounted for, but Obama insists on seeing Iran as a potential ally rather than an incorrigible enemy.

Moreover, the combined jihadist threat is not a regional one merely seeking to capture territory in the Middle East; it is a global one that regards the United States as its primary enemy and that can be defeated only by America and its real allies. This is not a problem we can delegate to the basket-case governments of Iraq and Afghanistan, or to the “moderate” Syrian “rebels.” Yet the Obama Left’s relentless indictment of American self-defensive action in the Middle East has sapped the domestic political support necessary for vigorous military action against our enemies — action that will eventually have to include aggressive American combat operations on the ground.

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Obama’s “we-don’t-have-a-strategy” gaffe was so egregious as to distract attention from the fact that he does indeed have a strategy, which has blown up in his face. His strategy is accommodation with Iran at all costs. As I wrote earlier this month, our ISIS problem derives from our Iran problem: Bashar Assad’s ethnic cleansing, which has displaced 4 million Syrians internally and driven 3 million out of the country, was possible because of Iranian backing. The refugee flood in Iraq and Syria gives ISIS an unlimited pool of recruits. Iraqi Sunni support for ISIS, including the participation of some of Saddam Hussein’s best officers, is a response to Iran’s de facto takeover of Iraq…

It may be entirely academic to argue that America should bomb not only ISIS, but also Iran’s nuclear facilities and the bases of its Revolutionary Guards. No Republican candidate I know is willing to argue this in advance of elections. Nonetheless, I repeat what I wrote Aug. 12: “The region’s security will hinge on the ultimate reckoning with Iran.”

On Canada’s Sun TV earlier today, commentator Ezra Levant asked me what Obama will do now. My guess is: very little. The reported Egyptian-UAE attack on Libyan Islamists is a harbinger of the future. Other countries in the region will take matters into their own hands in despair at American paralysis. Russia and China will play much bigger roles. And the new Thirty Year War will grind on indefinitely.

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I believe you also hear the name in the movie
“spencers mountain” with jimmy stewart…
it was filmed just north..
as was “shane”… just south..
and “the river of no return” filming yes.. rafted only some..
most rafting shots were in Or..

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:10 AM

I like hearing things like that and stories behind names like Deadman’s Bar.
A lot of early westerns were made up this way. Gold towns near here were used to film “High Noon” one of my favorites and the noon train that did the whistle still operates and is at the Jamestown Railroad Museum.

31giddyup on August 31, 2014 at 4:26 AM

here is one…’across the street’ from the south fork of the snake river..

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/183-Riverwood-Dr_Irwin_ID_83428_M17552-70207?row=1

its located here

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3608055,-111.2311485,59m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:29 AM

31giddyup on August 31, 2014 at 4:26 AM

agreed..westerns and the wild west are cool.. the gold rushes here n there… copper towns…

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:31 AM

this is going swimmingly Barry..

“Ukraine says Russian tanks flatten town; EU to threaten more sanctions”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/31/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0GS10C20140831

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:39 AM

on the still missing list…

“Fiji says no word on location of U.N. peacekeepers seized in Golan Heights”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/31/us-syria-crisis-peacekeepers-idUSKBN0GV07420140831

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:41 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALU5g6Qqi08
Some more Charlie Musselwhite… Good stuff.

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 4:42 AM

Property needs a little umph to it. Yep, it would be nice to have a house on the river.
Going to hit the sheets.
Great chit chattin’ learn a thing or two, or ten a day here.

Hugs and Blessings to all!

COL, keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you.
Hope the days pass fast so you can see the doc asap.
{{{hugs}}}

31giddyup on August 31, 2014 at 4:44 AM

thanks for all the ideas 31…sleep well.. cheers

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 4:47 AM

I am going to nap Bkitty…thanks for the chat n tunes..cheers

morning COL if you happen by… please get well soon..

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 5:03 AM

Louisiana St Bonners Ferry ID
G2m …look this up on your google maps… The house on Louisiana St and apple ave I bought in 1973 hub and I tore it down to studs , retired it , insulated it, dry walled entire house after we had remove all lath and plaster. House was 100 years old. But I couldn’t hack the small town attitude .so we sold it. It looked over the Kootenai(sp?)River . Paid 9,000 for it . Kind wish I had it now . We made it all new inside, it was a mess. took 9 months then we left for Ca. My son was 5 days old , he was born there. Had a big back yard. The house next belong to Mrs jones who had named the street at the back of her house. These were large mansion type hones. Hers was as it was built intact, ours had been turned into a boarding house, we red tired it the best we could, all with 6,000 bucks… We went broke.

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 5:09 AM

Good night G2m , and 31, & novaculus and lurkers good night all.
Col, hope you feel better and they can find the problem and the cure prayers for you dear.
Nice chatting and sharing music , you’re a good bunch!

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 5:12 AM

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 5:09 A
Oh good grief, I hate the auto correct, it never gets it right. I meant to say we repaired the house, back to its former state and it was very nice. Learned how to do a lot, these were old saw mill,owners homes, built in the early 1900s,big old mansions, our was not a fancy one but both neighbors homes were very fancy.
Oh well ” off I go” hahahaha

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 5:20 AM

Remember when the liberal pundits and the “mainstream media” laughed at Sarah Palin and her warning of death panels?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/health/end-of-life-talks-may-finally-overcome-politics.html?_r=0

Who’s laughing now?

Rovin on August 31, 2014 at 6:41 AM

i wonder why the gentle giants toxicology report is taking so long?

renalin on August 31, 2014 at 6:47 AM

Apr 1, 2009: But, President Obama cut them off. “My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks,” the president told them.

Today: Obama will have to face those pitchforks all by himself

J_Crater on August 31, 2014 at 6:47 AM

And………What you won’t see in an American Newspaper:

Myth of arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago…despite Al Gore’s prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now

Seven years after former US Vice-President Al Gore’s warning, Arctic ice cap has expanded for second year in row

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-

Rovin on August 31, 2014 at 6:49 AM

Myth of arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago…despite Al Gore’s prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now

These people never let facts get in their way. They count on people being too busy to pay attention.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Rovin on August 31, 2014 at 6:49 AM

-Sarah’s the only one in the republican party that predicted the fatal obama presidency andthe eventual results of its disastrous policies.

-liberalism is a mental disease. the rich and powerful prey on their mental weakness to fill their heads with the mush of global warming……which contains the chains that will keep them slaves

renalin on August 31, 2014 at 7:41 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 7:32 AM

You are here…and posting!!!
We were worried about and praying for your health last night and into the wee hours.

Let’s get your health issues identified and solved. We want your cheery/curmudgeonly contributios on a regular basis.

onlineanalyst on August 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM

These people never let facts get in their way. They count on people being too busy to pay attention.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Morning COL and hope you are better. We were, and still are, worried about you. Glad to see you up and posting.

Have a peaceful day and wish the rest a tranquil one.

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 8:19 AM

Let’s get your health issues identified and solved. We want your cheery/curmudgeonly contributios on a regular basis.

onlineanalyst on August 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM

If you go back to page 4 or 5 I explained my adventures in the ER.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Blessed Sabbath, y’all!

You’re being conned into Keynesianism and socialism now but it isn’t going to stop the selfishness of human behavior.

– John Wayne, 1975

My take: Civil Discourse, John Wayne, and Me (A KJ Op Ed)

kingsjester on August 31, 2014 at 9:04 AM

My take: Civil Discourse, John Wayne, and Me (A KJ Op Ed)

kingsjester on August 31, 2014 at 9:04 AM

In those old westerns the good guys always won over evil. Now there is an element that doesn’t know the difference between good and evil because nobody taught them.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Yes, ma’am. You are exactly right.

kingsjester on August 31, 2014 at 10:27 AM

If you go back to page 4 or 5 I explained my adventures in the ER.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Gotcha!
I checked out of Hotel California earlier than you had posted.

onlineanalyst on August 31, 2014 at 10:36 AM

I fell asleep waiting for the update from col. I’m sorry you still didn’t really find out anything and that you are still so uncomfortable. You are in my prayers. Thank goodness Doc is around to answer some questions. I always forget to ask things while I am there and I make a list.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 10:46 AM

In those old westerns the good guys always won over evil. Now there is an element that doesn’t know the difference between good and evil because nobody taught them.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Evil will teach those folks the difference. Hard way to learn that lesson.

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Thank goodness Doc is around to answer some questions. I always forget to ask things while I am there and I make a list.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Other than him being a Doc and a War Eagle fan, what is there to like? Chuckle….Doc is cool ain’t he.

Hey, wait a darn picking minute. Ain’t nobody ever asked me no question! Bah, I am going to go suck my thumb and pout.

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Hey, wait a darn picking minute. Ain’t nobody ever asked me no question! Bah, I am going to go suck my thumb and pout.

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Do you know anything about anything?

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:28 AM

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

If you ever let on what your area of expertise is, there will be questions. Doc is a great guy and a good sport and fortunately or unfortunately for him everyone in the world needs his expertise. Don’t suck your thumb, it’s not a look we ladies go for and it will mess up your teeth.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:30 AM

I fell asleep waiting for the update from col. I’m sorry you still didn’t really find out anything and that you are still so uncomfortable. You are in my prayers. Thank goodness Doc is around to answer some questions. I always forget to ask things while I am there and I make a list.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Sorry I didn’t feel up to going through it all again. I decided to get back to my family doctor before I call that surgeon. I remembered I’ve been through this before. The hospital could very well take a sample themselves but their protocol is to send you off to one of their doctors who sends you off to somebody else and neither does anything. I need something done now.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Do you think that is really true? I know people scoff when the decline of church attendance is mentioned because EVERYONE knows right from wrong. Maybe that’s true but now days we don’t seem to want to judge what is good or evil. That seems to fall into the none of our business category. Maybe wrong is instantaneous and evil takes longer to see.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:34 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

That’s probably a good call to start with the person who knows the most about you and let him/her take it from there. I know that we are getting to the age where things are just going to be different, I notice it all the time, but there has to be a way to at least alleviate the symptoms even if there isn’t a cure. That said, I don’t want anyone telling me that I’m just going to have to live with something. We’ve come to far.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Do you think that is really true? I know people scoff when the decline of church attendance is mentioned because EVERYONE knows right from wrong. Maybe that’s true but now days we don’t seem to want to judge what is good or evil. That seems to fall into the none of our business category. Maybe wrong is instantaneous and evil takes longer to see.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:34 AM

In order to know right from wrong you have to know there is such a thing as right and wrong. I don’t care where you learn it from church or from parents but you aren’t born knowing that. People won’t do the right thing if they don’t know what the right thing is.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:46 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

That’s probably a good call to start with the person who knows the most about you and let him/her take it from there. I know that we are getting to the age where things are just going to be different, I notice it all the time, but there has to be a way to at least alleviate the symptoms even if there isn’t a cure. That said, I don’t want anyone telling me that I’m just going to have to live with something. We’ve come to far.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:38 AM

I don’t want to get on that merry-go-round again. It’s a racket. I don’t have time. I spent more than a year finding out I had spinal stenosis.

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:48 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I agree but I have had people tell me that that isn’t true. It’s usually a sympathy ploy for when they screw up. “Well my dad wasn’t around when I was a kid so I didn’t learn (fill in the blank). It’s usually funny calling them on whatever the specific wrong doing is. “Seriously? You didn’t know driving through the neighborhood at 60 mph and taking out people lampposts was wrong?”

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:54 AM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Is there any chance that that is a contributing factor to your current discomfort?

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Hot as hell in El Paso today.

On Kerry, good thing he is around to photo so’s we do not forget wht a pwerson of treason looks like when they get old and slow whitted.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Yes, nobody taught them because they weren’t allowed to play cowboys and Indians, or bad guys,good guys, or army or have a toy gun. Mom and dad abdicated teaching them there is evil and bad people, and that nature abhors a vacuum , that they should have that something good and decent in their soul (faith in God) as it will be filled with something.

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Hey, wait a darn picking minute. Ain’t nobody ever asked me no question! Bah, I am going to go suck my thumb and pout.

HonestLib on August 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Do you know anything about anything?

crankyoldlady on August 31, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Heh, he led three wives. HL knows all about wimmens.

onlineanalyst on August 31, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Bakokitty on August 31, 2014 at 5:09 AM

sorry I missed your Q before I fell down to nap..
with your house that close to the river…
I’d just camp in your backyard…smiles

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6925879,-116.3014134,213m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

going2mars on August 31, 2014 at 7:05 PM

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