Video: Hot Air exclusive interview with Gov. Rick Perry

posted at 7:21 pm on August 29, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier this afternoon, I met with Governor Rick Perry for an exclusive interview immediately after his speech at AFP’s Defending the Dream Summit in Dallas. The speech itself was very well received by the 3000-plus attendees, who gave the governor a standing ovation as he came off the stage. As he went into the meeting room, a woman whom Perry knows congratulated him and pledged that she will work for his campaign in 2016, at which Perry embraced her and smiled. The good mood continued when we sat down to do the pre-arranged interview, which actually started just before the video does, thanks to a brief technical issue that got resolved.

The governor started off by promising to rib Florida governor Rick Scott about hosting the largest-ever AFP event, which led into a discussion of Texas economics and state competition for workers and entrepreneurs.”It’s real, and it’s uncomfortable,” Perry said, smiling, “but people who want to perform at a high level shouldn’t mind uncomfort.” Perry attributes Texas’ success to fair and predictable tax and regulatory policy, tort reform, and accountability in education.

We discussed the differing directions of Texas from New York and California, and the sometimes-undiscussed circumstances of capital flight, especially in California. I pointed out that the policies are producing a middle class drain in California, and asked Perry whether he’s seen middle-class growth in Texas. Perry noted that some stay in other states because “they are incentivized by the rich government programs,” but that growth in Texas has been broad based. “Texas had led the nation in job creation in all quartiles,” Perry said, citing the Dallas Federal Reserve and Investors Business Daily. “Over 50% of those jobs,” he added, “were in the two higher quartiles.” The prosperity of the Texas expansion has led to an explosion of cultural outlets in the state, which Perry proudly listed in detail.

Next we discussed the Obama administration and its foreign policy, in which Perry included the border crisis, but especially the situation with ISIS. When I brought up Barack Obama’s “no strategy” comment and said that it’s not something one would expect an American president to announce at a press conference, Perry interjected, “Or admit.” This “is a disengaged administration, Perry said. “This is a president who seems to be disengaged from what’s going on in the world. When you stand up in front of the international — the global press,” he continued,” and talk about a photojournalist who’s been beheaded by an absolutely brutal terrorist organization like ISIS, and thirty minutes later be on the golf course — you’re disengaged with what’s going on in the world.” Perry related a story from his meeting last October with Israeli officials, one of whom wondered why an American president wasn’t focused on American interests.

Finally, we discussed the indictment brought against Perry by the Travis County district attorney, and I asked him how a court could take it seriously. “Here’s what I know,” Perry replied, “we take it seriously.” He noted the extensive motion filed by his attorneys to dismiss the case with prejudice, which should be heard soon. “I followed the rule of law” in issuing the veto, one of hundreds in his tenure as governor, “and if I had to do it again, I would do it again.” The indictment threatens the separation and balance of powers within government, and even more concerning, attempts to criminalize normal political debate. “Fascinating? Yes, I guess you could call it that,” he said in response to one of my earlier questions, “but criminalizing politics is not good for America.”

Later, I will post a higher-quality rendition of this interview, but the size of that file is keeping it from uploading properly over the shared Internet connection, which is actually rather good at this conference.

Update, 8/30 7:37 am: Updated with higher-quality video.

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forest on August 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Good catch, Ed.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Mitch McConnell’s Campaign Manager Resigns

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) campaign manager, Jesse Benton, announced his resignation amid questions about his alleged role in 2012 Iowa bribery scandal.

According to the Kentucky Herald-Leader, Benton met with McConnell on Friday afternoon and gave the top Senate Republican his letter of resignation, which McConnell accepted.

Benton’s resignation is effective Saturday.

The major staff change comes amidst a bribery scandal from when he was the political director for Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) during the 2012 presidential campaign that could spill over into McConnell’s re-election fight. Benton has stressed that he is innocent and blamed “inaccurate press accounts and unsubstantiated media rumors.”

“This decision breaks my heart, but I know it is the right thing for Mitch, for Kentucky and for the country,” Benton said.

Two days earlier former Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson (R) pleaded guilty to taking $73,000 from Paul’s campaign and trading that for Paul’s endorsement. Sorenson also pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice for lying about his role in the deal. The guilty plea included a pair of sealed documents that could lead back to Benton.

Ned Pepper on August 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM

she will work for her campaign in 2016

??

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM

OT:

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Obama is engaged, just not with the security of America. He is engaged with the security of the democrat party though and that is why he wants to import millions upon millions of reliable third worlder democrat voters to underwhelm you not so reliable Texans.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Rick Perry, he has my vote and support. You can’t find a better high quality “proven” conservative.

Rick Perry 2016

bzip on August 29, 2014 at 7:35 PM

it’s not something one would expect an American president to announce at a press conference, Perry interjected, “Or admit.”

Heh.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 7:35 PM

underwhelm overwhelm

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:35 PM

OT:

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Or did they sneak him out to do a spy gig?

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 7:39 PM

“Fascinating? Yes, I guess you could call it that,” he said in response to one of my earlier questions, “but criminalizing politics is not good for America.”

Adherents to the House of Obama are fundamentally and unalterably opposed to the survival of the Constitution of the United States, and most particularly it’s Bill of Rights. The House of Obama is based on the teachings of Benito Mussolini, Joesph Stalin, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, the Queen of Hearts and Joe Isuzu. The House of Obama commands that democrats carry out mendacity, calumny, pyromania and psychosis indefinitely against all opponents until the House of the Constitution, which is alien to The House of Obama, is not tolerated, and all surviving Americans are brought under the complete subjugation of the House of Obama, where Obamariah is strictly enforced.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:41 PM

OT:

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Well now that’s some good news. Some here may not understand the feeling but I’m sure you will. Lived way too long in my opinion.

Oldnuke on August 29, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Yeah, I’m having problems with the file.

I’m looking forward to hearing the entire interview.

Most of all, I want to hear what a man has to say about the issues at hand. Sorry, girls. Hillary won’t do in times like these no matter what the fairy tale stories say. She hasn’t got the ‘right stuff’.

I’m a woman, and I know that women can do what needs to be done. Those women are few, however. Thatcher was one of them. Like her or not, she got it right and had a backbone of steel. I don’t see any women of her measure out there.

We need a leader, and we have no hope of one for another couple of years.

Next time around lets elect a Yank... a patriot… someone with experience… and someone who cares about this country.

F’Brack and the Dems. Enough is enough.

Cody1991 on August 29, 2014 at 7:42 PM

OT:

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

He probably died of a broken heart that he couldn’t join his Mohammedan brothers in ISIS.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM

perry=schmidt+rove

vote at your own peril

renalin on August 29, 2014 at 7:46 PM

He probably died of a broken heart that he couldn’t join his Mohammedan brothers in ISIS.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Don’t give him any credits for ideals and ideology. He did it for the basest of reasons. Money, plain and simple.

Oldnuke on August 29, 2014 at 7:47 PM

OT:

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

No tears, just a good riddance. Ba$tard.

Cody1991 on August 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I’m a woman, and I know that women can do what needs to be done. Those women are few, however. Thatcher was one of them. Like her or not, she got it right and had a backbone of steel. I don’t see any women of her measure out there.

Cody1991 on August 29, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Perhaps Michele Bachmann or Michelle Malkin. Definitely Pam Geller and most definitely Diana West.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Well now that’s some good news. Some here may not understand the feeling but I’m sure you will. Lived way too long in my opinion.

Oldnuke on August 29, 2014 at 7:42 PM

You have no idea…..

I was a gopher at SUBLANT (he was at one end of the hall, I was at the other…by the stairs) when the story first broke. In my little hovel was a safe that happened to have the patrol logs of every SSBN patrol from GW’s first one to the present on microfiche. Guess what I got to do.

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:50 PM

He probably died of a broken heart that he couldn’t join his Mohammedan brothers in ISIS.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM

you’re probably thinking of john walker LINDH

chasdal on August 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Ed, wish you could have asked him why he hired that putz Steve Schmidt.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM

you’re probably thinking of john walker LINDH

chasdal on August 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM

That’s exactly who I was thinking of.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Ned Pepper on August 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM

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Yeah … we’re all pretty upset about that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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So, what’s on TV tonight ?

listens2glenn on August 29, 2014 at 7:55 PM

ISIS in Mexico? Feds DENY watchdog group’s claim that the terror group is operating in Juarez and plans ‘imminent’ car-bomb attacks on US targets

Three online reports warned Friday of ISIS involvement south of the border, including one from Judicial Watch that cited ‘imminent’ car-bomb attacks

The Department of Homeland Security and the White House quickly denied that they have any information about ISIS gathering an attack force in Mexico

DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson said America is ‘unaware of any specific, credible threat to the US homeland’ from the terror network

Other reports cited social media warnings from ISIS militants and an online video showing a conservative filmmaker in a bin Laden mask sneaking into the US from Mexico

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738113/ISIS-Mexico-Feds-DENY-watchdog-group-s-claim-terror-group-operating-Juarez-plans-imminent-car-bomb-attacks-US-targets.html

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Ned Pepper on August 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Hey, Ned, you’re supposed to include the link when you paste in text from an article. Helps keep you from being called a plagarist.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Guess what I got to do.

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Eat the microfilm?

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Perhaps Michele Bachmann or Michelle Malkin. Definitely Pam Geller and most definitely Diana West.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I would like to see Malkin as White House press secretary.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:01 PM

I’ve supported Perry since day one of his announcement in the campaign of 2008. It’s a shame we didn’t choose him. This was a good interview, Ed, I enjoyed every second of it.

Rambotito on August 29, 2014 at 8:02 PM

If Repubs were serious about getting more women to vote, Perry hiring Schmidt just blew it.
We remember his participation during and after of Mc Cain’s and Palin’s campaign.
Rove sniffing around doesn’t help either.

31giddyup on August 29, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Perhaps Michele Bachmann or Michelle Malkin. Definitely Pam Geller and most definitely Diana West.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I would like to see Malkin as White House press secretary.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Malkin would have a hard time spinning the bs. She’s too direct with the truth and would be asked to leave on day one.

31giddyup on August 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Eat the microfilm?

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Scroll….focus…print…scroll…focus…..print….scroll….focus….print

This was way before laser jets, daisy wheel, and ink jet printers. It was a thermal printer. It took about 3 minutes to print a single page.

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I’m warming up to this guy, he needs to put more distance between himself and the dream act nonsense from the prior debate. Refuting that would bring a lot of conservatives onboard.
I want to like Rick Perry.
Good interview Ed.

V7_Sport on August 29, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Rambotito on August 29, 2014 at 8:02 PM

He ran in the 2008 presidential race?

News to me. And I’m usually up on that stuff.

cozmo on August 29, 2014 at 8:14 PM

This was way before laser jets, daisy wheel, and ink jet printers. It was a thermal printer. It took about 3 minutes to print a single page.

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM

But they smelled so good.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Not to be outdone:

John Nolte @NolteNC · 10h

BREAKING: Obama raises American threat level to taupe.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:20 PM

BREAKING FROM NORTH CAROLINA:

John Walker dies in prison

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Thanks for posting that,
Hope he rots in hell.

V7_Sport on August 29, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Like the content but why are most of these blogs videos of such crappy quality?
A real turn off in a 1080p world.

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

ICYMI:

Gary Sinise @GarySinise · Aug 20

On Saturday Vietnam War Medal of Honor Recipient Bernard F Fisher passed away at 87.God bless him & his family.TY sir http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhX17rXFVsM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:34 PM

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I take it you didn’t bother to read the explanation redshirtguy.

cozmo on August 29, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Like the content but why are most of these blogs videos of such crappy quality?
A real turn off in a 1080p world.

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Later, I will post a higher-quality rendition of this interview, but the size of that file is keeping it from uploading properly over the shared Internet connection, which is actually rather good at this conference.

davidk on August 29, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Ed, wish you could have asked him why he hired that putz Steve Schmidt.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM

My thoughts exactly . Guess Ed doesn’t pay too much
attention to the comments section of Hot Gas .

Lucano on August 29, 2014 at 8:44 PM

No to Perry.

He has hired too many RINOs already.

glsmith36 on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 PM

hiring Barbour and Schmidt was a huge disservice to all conservatives /I liked him last time and was really hoping he would run abut with these two creeps on his staff I am having big second thoughts…

Bullhead on August 29, 2014 at 9:24 PM

You know, English really needs a new word for “exclusive” now that all meaning has been squeezed out of it.

corona79 on August 29, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Rick Perry = amnesty hack..
Remember him spouting during the primary debate the “through no fault of their own” line…ugh
Why isn’t a real conservative like Ted Cruz ever interviewed? In addition Rick Perry just isn’t very bright.

The_Conservative on August 29, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Perry has some ‘splaining to do. If the following is true, then Perry has bitten the dust unless he fires these political hacks and scumbags:

Texas Governor Rick Perry has reportedly aligned himself with two of the most infamous Republican establishment operatives known for trashing conservatives.

Perry is working with Henry Barbour, whom conservatives want the Republican National Committee to censure for his group’s smearing of conservatives in the Mississippi Senate runoff, and Steve Schmidt, who has elevated his profile by maligning conservatives, especially former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Lee refers back to Reagan who said, Personnel is policy. Hiring these two wretches certainly indicates a mindset and approach to politics.

INC on August 29, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Well, the typos are spreading. It’s a damnable epidemic now for this website.

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:53 PM

I know, I know.

New levels of pendantry (sic). Congrats, guys.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 27, 2014 at 9:33 PM

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM

My thoughts exactly . Guess Ed doesn’t pay too much
attention to the comments section of Hot Gas .

Lucano on August 29, 2014 at 8:44 PM

We know he doesn’t. There are many times better and more accurate information in the comment section than in the links provided in the articles.

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:55 PM

New levels of pendantry (sic). Congrats, guys.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 27, 2014 at 9:33 PM

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Is that real?

We know he doesn’t. There are many times better and more accurate information in the comment section than in the links provided in the articles.
cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:55 PM

He might have gotten his fill of seeing “Lord of the Flies” replayed in the comment section over and over.

V7_Sport on August 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM

He might have gotten his fill of seeing “Lord of the Flies” replayed in the comment section over and over.

V7_Sport on August 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Maybe. You have to have a good bullspit meter, but there are gems out there with great information.

cptacek on August 30, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Lol. Ed, you have no balls. How could you not have asked him about the ‘Hot Gas’ thing?

That would have totally given the guy a chance to put it behind him with the base. But you wimped out and kissed his butt instead.

I’m a journalist who supports the Right, and that would have been my first question. Ed, you have no sense of title-marketing.

Anyway, Perry seems largely dumb to me, but I’ll give him credit for having upped his game since his flop in the last Presidential election.

For me, his strongest ability right now is the thing about marketing Texas over other states on economic grounds. Let’s give the guy credit, dumb that he may be — that’s a very smart and legitimate approach. It goes beyond politics. It’s just smart. It would be smart for any governor, regardless of party. He needs to keep on that. It’s what he does best.

Ed, you should have also asked him about his relationship with Prince Shah Karim Al-Husayni. Has he ever renounced this? If he hasn’t, what authority does he have to criticize IS?

Overall, a softball interview.

WhatSlushfund on August 30, 2014 at 2:16 AM

Why indeed did he hire Steve Schmidt?

MTF on August 30, 2014 at 8:50 AM

I’m certainly NOT any sort of ‘Perrynista’ by any stretch – but darned if he aint still a pretty good communicator (teleprompters not withstanding sometimes). As much as I truly do not trust Perry – sadly He’d still be a huge improvement over the current Keystone Cops cast………….how pathetic is THAT?

Katfish on August 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Why indeed did he hire Steve Schmidt?

MTF on August 30, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Bingo. H/T to Renalin as well.

We have learned from serious politicians that policy is not created in political campaigns for voters’ benefit. Policy is a function of staffing — if your “conservative” candidate hires, say, a no-name liberal amnestesiac, then ignore anything your candidate says about “border security”, because the policy is going to be written by the amnesty fan.

Forget Perry’s stated positions on various conservative hot-buttons. If Steve Schmidt is crafting policy, Perry will be a RINO. No doubt about it.

Ed, did you ask the Governor about this?

Jaibones on August 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM

For all of you having a fit about Steve Schmidt – according to this article he was hired for his LEGAL team.

Perry’s legal team

gophergirl on August 30, 2014 at 11:13 AM

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I take it you didn’t bother to read the explanation redshirtguy.

cozmo on August 29, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I appreciate the time Ed took with Governor Perry
and only wish both men the best of luck……..

redguy on August 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM

New levels of pendantry (sic). Congrats, guys.
cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Is that real?
V7_Sport on August 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Yes. cptacek on August 30, 2014 at 12:19 AM

HA! New levels of Irony.

Maybe. You have to have a good bullspit meter, but there are gems out there with great information.

cptacek on August 30, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Agreed.

V7_Sport on August 30, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Anyone who employs corrupt cretins Henry Barbour and Steve Schmidt-for-brains on his team is a dead man walking.

Jayrae on August 30, 2014 at 3:22 PM

gophergirl on August 30, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Agreed..That is my understanding also..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Very good interview by Captain Ed..Rick Perry did a good job also..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM

gophergirl on August 30, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Agreed..That is my understanding also..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2014 at 3:45 PM

How about Henry Barbour. He showed his true colors in the MS Senate primary.

Any candidate who hires Barbour should be shunned.

Perry has to know what Barbour did but hired him anyway.

glsmith36 on August 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Did Perry remember that 3rd government agency he would abolish?

glsmith36 on August 30, 2014 at 5:36 PM

What, no Palinistas/Paultards/Tardasils sniping yet?

Kermit on September 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Im with those that have disqualified Perry for hiring ugly human beings like Steve Schmidt. You cant put that crap back in the horse. Schmidt has made me sick over the years, with his arrogance and pure hatred for conservatives. Either Perry is clueless or has no problem with those qualities.

The dude cant abide.

Next candidate.

alecj on September 2, 2014 at 9:36 AM