Putin: You’re next, Kazakhstan

posted at 4:01 pm on August 29, 2014 by Noah Rothman

When Russian President Vladimir Putin began referring to portions of Ukraine by their Tsarist-era name, Novorossiya, Russia hands expressed alarm.

Novorossiya, or “New Russia,” incorporates the area of Southern Ukraine from Donbass to the present day border with Moldova. Some suggested that Putin’s brazen invasion and annexation of the Crimean Peninsula was a prelude to a much more significant land grab. They noted that Putin could have designs on the entirety of Southern Ukraine, linking Russia to the portion of Moldova known as Transnistria, an area which has been under Russian occupation for years and is already a de facto Russian territory.

In fact, Russia’s gambit in Ukraine were foreshadowed by Putin’s remarks to then President George W. Bush. “You don’t understand, George, that Ukraine is not even a state,” Putin said.

Others scoffed at this tasseography. They suggested that Putin’s use of this archaic term was intended for domestic consumption only – a bit of jingoistic nationalism which, while menacing, was generally harmless. Those who scoffed are not looking especially prescient today.

Well, Putin is using the same language he used to delegitimize Ukraine’s existence to threaten another former Soviet Republic – the massive Central Asian nation of Kazakhstan.

Putin was reportedly asked by a Russian student about what he considered a disturbing “growth of nationalist moods in Kazakhstan.” The questioner asked if Moscow had a plan to address this dangerous condition when the long-standing president of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, dies.

Putin replied that “Kazakhs did not have a statehood” before the collapse of the Soviet Union, and their condition was a unique one in the former Soviet space. “It was never a state,” Putin said of that central Asian power. “There was never a state there before.”

This report, flagged by the London-based reporter Ben Judah, should not be dismissed in the West as were so many ominous signs that Putin had an interest in repatriating portions of Eastern Ukraine.

Meanwhile, The Washington Post’s Anne Applebaum has a fantastic column up in today’s Post which warns the world that history did not, in fact, end in 1991 and a total war in Europe is not unthinkable.

The most chilling passage had to do with some in Moscow who advocate for pressing their advantage and directly threatening NATO, just to see if the alliance will buckle when it is asked to make good on its Article 5 defense commitments to its Eastern European members.

But Novorossiya will also be hard to sustain if it has opponents in the West. Possible solutions to that problem are also under discussion. Not long ago, Vladimir Zhirinovsky — the Russian member of parliament and court jester, who sometimes says things that those in power cannot — argued on television that Russia should use nuclear weapons to bomb Poland and the Baltic countries — “dwarf states,” he called them — and show the West who really holds power in Europe: “Nothing threatens America, it’s far away. But Eastern European countries will place themselves under the threat of total annihilation,” he declared. Vladimir Putin indulges these comments: Zhirinovsky’s statements are not official policy, the Russian president says, but he always “gets the party going.”

A far more serious person, the dissident Russian analyst Andrei Piontkovsky, has recently published an article arguing, along lines that echo Zhirinovsky’s threats, that Putin really is weighing the possibility of limited nuclear strikes — perhaps against one of the Baltic capitals, perhaps a Polish city — to prove that NATO is a hollow, meaningless entity that won’t dare strike back for fear of a greater catastrophe. Indeed, in military exercises in 2009 and 2013, the Russian army openly “practiced” a nuclear attack on Warsaw.

Is all of this nothing more than the raving of lunatics? Maybe. And maybe Putin is too weak to do any of this, and maybe it’s just scare tactics, and maybe his oligarchs will stop him. But “Mein Kampf” also seemed hysterical to Western and German audiences in 1933. Stalin’s orders to “liquidate” whole classes and social groups within the Soviet Union would have seemed equally insane to us at the time, if we had been able to hear them.

It’s all quite disturbing. All the while, the leader of the free world golfs and fundraises…

This post has been updated since its original publication.


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Okay, THAT’s a red line Putin better not cross. SERIOUSLY.

Cicero43 on August 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

For his next trick culled from the wisdom of Sun Tzu, Obama will deter Putin from further intervention in the old Soviet bloc countries by grinning like an idiot while Beyonce sings him a special song.

Cicero43 on August 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Thug.

weedisgood on August 29, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Okay, THAT’s a red line Putin better not cross. SERIOUSLY.

Cicero43 on August 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

“You want nuclear war…Girly Man?” “And lose the brown suit!”

Deano1952 on August 29, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Nuclear Threats

“Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers,” he said.

Alluding to Western countries, Putin added that “Russia’s partners … should understand it’s best not to mess with us.”

kcewa on August 29, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Vladamir Putin, master of the world. It`s our reality for at least 2 1/2 years so we better learn to…… Tolerate it.

ThePrez on August 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Cicero43 on August 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Obama’s red lines are more like dotted lines whereas the blank spaces in between show where and how many times it has been crossed.

HotAirian on August 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Putin never wears tan suits.

Pork-Chop on August 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

“The Art of War”

redzap on August 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Putin is channeling Catherine the Great. Obama doesn’t have a clue, er, strategy.

major dad on August 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

“That’s sooo 20th century.” — John Kerry

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Putin:

“You’re not a state!…and you’re not a state…….and you’re not a state…”

JetBoy on August 29, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I`m seriously putting Alaska on the table for territory Putin thinks about getting back.

ThePrez on August 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The Ukrainian situation has at least one precedent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Army_involvement_in_Transnistria

Damn – it’s getting EXPENSIVE ordering new world wall maps these days!

fred5678 on August 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Putin. Say, didn’t the MSM mock the hell out of ‘some Republicans’ a ways back when they warned us he was just waiting for Der Feuhrer to ‘win’ His 2nd term?

NO? Fast editing!!

Tard on August 29, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Oh, my! Hillary may have something to say about that development. Doesn’t Billy Boy have some investments in K-stan?

onlineanalyst on August 29, 2014 at 4:20 PM

I`m seriously putting Alaska on the table for territory Putin thinks about getting back.

ThePrez on August 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Won’t happen. Putin fears Palin.

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Historically, I would probably actually compare Putin more to Bismark. Of course, Bismark didn’t have nukes…

WestVirginiaRebel on August 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM

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canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Obama’s red lines are more like dotted lines whereas the blank spaces in between show where and how many times it has been crossed.

HotAirian on August 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Sort of like those dotted lines showing the kids’ travels in the comic Family Circus, eh?

onlineanalyst on August 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM

They want a ‘stan? How did Chechnya work out?

vityas on August 29, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I wonder which of our 57 states are not states?

Alaska for sure. Maybe the west coast states down to Baja.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM

China won’t like that.

DarkCurrent on August 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM

“Valerie, hand me another toke! Oh, yeah…. that’s the good stuff right there! Hey Reggie, watch this drive! Fore!”

Our current leadership. Heck, even Buchanan would be better right now.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Obama’s red lines are more like dotted lines whereas the blank spaces in between show where and how many times it has been crossed.

HotAirian on August 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Sort of like those dotted lines showing the kids’ travels in the comic Family Circus, eh?

onlineanalyst on August 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Or maybe our southern border with Mexico.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Heck of a reset, Hillary.

rbj on August 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM

I say Buchanan would be better, even though Buchanan sent the US Army to kill my ancestors and burn their cities. That’s how bad Obama is right now.

Seriously, does anyone think Obama would do anything if Warsaw became a cloud? I’m sure Putin would be more worried about the weather blowing the radioactive cloud back onto Russia than NATO response.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Putin: You’re next, Kazakhstan

Slava!

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 7s

State ” warns U.S. citizens of the risks of travel to eastern Ukraine due to ongoing violent clashes…”

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

Rand: “If the president has no strategy, maybe it’s time for a new president”

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

Rand: “Do you think Gen Patton had a strategy before he went to battle? …How about Eisenhower”

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Watch for China to move troops and threaten the Spratleys and Taiwan right now. And the Norks to shell a few islands.

Why not? Obama’s golfing, and has no strategy. If you are ever going todo a military adventure, nows the time! Obama just goes “FORE!” Get it while the getting’s good!

By the time of the next election, we’ll have the Soviet Bloc back, China in control of Taiwan, fighting in Seoul (because the South Koreans won’t roll over), a new Islamic caliphate, and more.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Now would be a great time to cut our nuclear arsenal down to, say, 300 warheads. We could use the savings to fund more entitlements.

WryTrvllr on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

It’s all quite disturbing. All the while, the leader of the free world golfs and fundraises…

Yes Noah he golfs and he will keep on golfing because Not golfing is not going to make solutions come

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Watch for China to move troops and threaten the Spratleys and Taiwan right now. And the Norks to shell a few islands.

Why not? Obama’s golfing, and has no strategy. If you are ever going todo a military adventure, nows the time! Obama just goes “FORE!” Get it while the getting’s good!

By the time of the next election, we’ll have the Soviet Bloc back, China in control of Taiwan, fighting in Seoul (because the South Koreans won’t roll over), a new Islamic caliphate, and more.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Why not? They know they have carte blanche to do what they want. Europe lost its balls decades ago, and we have recently been completely neutered. Whose going to stop Russia and China from doing whatever they want?

melle1228 on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Yes Noah he golfs and he will keep on golfing because Not golfing is not going to make solutions come

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Don’t forget the MSN wedding and the two fundraising.

If I took a 23 hour lunch break, I would be canned, but resume kissing the horrible President’s azz..It makes you look so smmmmmmmmmarrrrttt//

melle1228 on August 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The U.S. Army Is Sending More Tanks to Europe

Troops haul heavy armor all the way from Texas
Aug 28 2014
***********

U.S. Army troops from the 1st Cavalry Division are headed for NATO’s eastern border as the Ukraine crisis keeps churning. And these soldiers are bringing Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles all the way from Fort Hood in Texas.

Detachments from 2nd Battalion, 8th Cavalry will spend the next few months training with America’s friends and allies in the region. This unit is a so-called “combined arms battalion” with tanks and fighting vehicles.

The force will also take over from American paratroopers who have been in Eastern Europe since April. The Pentagon has been rotating troops through the region since Russia forcibly annexed Ukraine’s Crimea region earlier this year.
(More….)
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https://medium.com/war-is-boring

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-u-s-army-is-sending-more-tanks-to-europe-72478ec2d30e

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM

“I’m not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to Russia, or Mr. Putin.” — Mittens

Maybe John Fonda Kerry can hit the reset button again. It worked so well the last time.

flstc on August 29, 2014 at 4:38 PM

All the while, the leader of the free world golfs and fundraises…

Why do you guys keep saying “fundraises”? That makes it sound positive like fund raising for cancer research or for the homeless or something. Why not at least say money raises, or better yet money raises from fat cats?

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Why not? They know they have carte blanche to do what they want. Europe lost its balls decades ago, and we have recently been completely neutered. Whose going to stop Russia and China from doing whatever they want?

melle1228 on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Me.

Vote for me and China and Russia will have to ask permission to go potty.

Turtle317 on August 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

By the time of the next election, we’ll have the Soviet Bloc back, China in control of Taiwan, fighting in Seoul (because the South Koreans won’t roll over), a new Islamic caliphate, and more.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:32 PM

The Chinese have been in control of Taiwan since the end of WWII.

DarkCurrent on August 29, 2014 at 4:40 PM

U.S. Army troops from the 1st Cavalry Division are headed for NATO’s eastern border as the Ukraine crisis keeps churning. And these soldiers are bringing Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles all the way from Fort Hood in Texas.

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM

They should be going to our southern border which is a whole lot closer. If they are going to the other side of the world, it should be to land on top of ISIS’s head.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

it should be to land on top of ISIS’s head.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Napalm should work quite nicely.

Turtle317 on August 29, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Napalm should work quite nicely.

Turtle317 on August 29, 2014 at 4:47 PM

And if that runs out, use white phosphorous.

VorDaj on August 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

^^ Apparently this is what passes for objective thinking these days.

Quite striking how easy Obama’s inaction is excused.

darwin on August 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Are you serious?

When serious people are faced with an immediate problem, they gather the team, order a sack of sandwiches, and work through lunch.

BacaDog on August 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Putin thinks NATO is a paper tiger, and he is right. NATO is nothing without the US, and the US is nothing with Obama in charge. Good thing we “reset” relations with Russia…imagine how bad things would be if we hadn’t….

I also wonder how Poland feels now (as if I don’t know)as Russia is practicing nuke strikes on Warsaw. Remember when Obama reneged on the deal to place anti-missile batteries in Poland because he didn’t want to piss off his buddy Putin?

Obama is an utter friggin’ nuclear exploding train wreck of a President who has made the world a more dangerous place for literally every single freedom loving person on the planet. Oh, and he sucks at the economy too.

billboy89 on August 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Putin is channeling Catherine the Great. Obama doesn’t have a clue, er, strategy.

major dad on August 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

0bama is Catherine.

Putin is the horse.

Rebar on August 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Not golfing is not going to make solutions come

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Does it appear as though Obama has spent more hours working on foreign policy or doing non work related activities? He just did 36 hours of golf in 2 weeks (9 rounds, about 4 hours per round) and it appears as though he will be at fundraisers or weddings all weekend.

Has he spent more than 2 or 3 hours on the Middle East or Russia in the last month? I see no evidence of that.

I’ll grant you that Obama is a relatively useles idiot who couldn’t pour water from a boot if the instructions were written on the heel, but he doesn’t have to come up with the policy himself, he has to at least meet with his team frequently and make them come up with a policy. ISIS has been a growing threat for 4 years. Maybe if Obama was not golfing or fundraising he would become bored enough to start working.

Most of us get 15 minute breaks after 4 hours of work. Obama seems to be approaching it the other way around. I think the situation in the Middle East reflects that. He couldn’t even prepare a cogent answer to an obvious question for a press conference. How much time would that have taken, 15 minutes? It does not appear that he is earning his annual $1.4 billion in perks.

talkingpoints on August 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Soviet Union 2.0

Russian Federation is more like it.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM

The most chilling passage had to do some in Moscow

??

AesopFan on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Watch China. They’ll move, next.

An ignorant dilettante, proud of hisself, is preezie, er golfer in chief of the USA.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

You live in a fairy world.

Those of us who really DO things (the list is quite long), don’t take breaks when the world is on fire.

Some of us haven’t taken a vacation day in YEARS.

Why? Because there isn’t any one else QUALIFIED for the JOB.

Now kindly remove your head from your rectal orifice and stay the f*ck out of the way.

The real adults are talking now.

Turtle317 on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Social media chatter shows Islamic State militants are keenly aware of the porous U.S.-Mexico border, and are “expressing an increased interest” in crossing over to carry out a terrorist attack, according to a Texas law enforcement bulletin sent out this week.

Told you that IS and the open borders are obama’s, and his legacy too.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Yes Noah he golfs and he will keep on golfing because Not golfing is not going to make solutions come

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Just when I lauded you for being more interesting than Meredith, you disappoint. This was a really dumb comment. He said himself that he’d skip vacations, if elected.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Are you serious?

BacaDog on August 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Sadly, the answer to that question is yes.

darwin on August 29, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Watch China. They’ll move, next.

An ignorant dilettante, proud of hisself, is preezie, er golfer in chief of the USA.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

They already are. We have had several “incidents’ with China recently. I believe one in the last week involving one of our jets and theirs.

melle1228 on August 29, 2014 at 4:57 PM

They want a ‘stan? How did Chechnya work out?

vityas on August 29, 2014 at 4:24 PM

The Russians won.

Jon0815 on August 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

If you like your own sovereign country, you can keep your own sovereign country.

- President Barack ‘Twelve-Dimensional Chess Player’ Obama

Resist We Much on August 29, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Watch China. They’ll move, next.

An ignorant dilettante, proud of hisself, is preezie, er golfer in chief of the USA.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

China’s in no particular hurry

DarkCurrent on August 29, 2014 at 5:01 PM

China’s in no particular hurry

DarkCurrent on August 29, 2014 at 5:01 PM

I’ve tried to explain China’s conception of time to Westerners for years. After conductin business in China for years, I learned first hand that its idea of ‘hurry’ or ‘instant’ is completely different than that of the West.

Resist We Much on August 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Yes Noah he golfs and he will keep on golfing because Not golfing is not going to make solutions come

Think of his golf time as his lunch break. We have labor laws in this country and employees are entitled to breaks and a lunch. When his break time comes Obama goes golfing. He is also entitled to going to the bathroom without raising his hand. Sorry to disappoint.

coolrepublica on August 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Are you even aware of how long the avg. 18 hole round of golf lasts? How many average, hard working Americans are provided approx. 4 hours for “lunch” on any given day by their employers?

tanked59 on August 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Russia has already bit off more than it can chew in Ukraine. The Russians did not invade until the “rebels” were on the ropes. Don’t be surprised if the Ukrainians find a way to best them again.

Even slicing off the portion of Kazakhstan lying to the West of the Ural River would be too much. Ethnic Russians make up less than a quarter of the population. The population grew 7% over the last decade. Do you think that was Christian/ Secular Russians or Muslim Kazakhs? Russia has tried this before, the Great Game, one steppe forward, two steppes back. Remember Afghanistan. How did that turn out? (Putin trying to piece back together the old empire, that’s where.)

Russia is a former superpower which is dying a bitter, sad, painful, demographic death. This is one last lurch into the breach.

Esaus Message on August 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM

The most chilling passage had to do some in Moscow who advocate for pressing their advantage and directly threatening NATO

My goodness, Noah, your incoherent sentence structure is annoying.

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Seriously, does anyone think Obama would do anything if Warsaw became a cloud? I’m sure Putin would be more worried about the weather blowing the radioactive cloud back onto Russia than NATO response.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Scooter the Choomer wouldn’t do anything if a Red State became a cloud.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM

I know, I know.

New levels of pendantry (sic). Congrats, guys.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 27, 2014 at 9:33 PM

cptacek on August 29, 2014 at 5:22 PM

I’ve tried to explain China’s conception of time to Westerners for years. After conductin business in China for years, I learned first hand that its idea of ‘hurry’ or ‘instant’ is completely different than that of the West.

Resist We Much on August 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Perhaps you could you explain it to me?

Say over a candlelit dinner next time you’re in town ;)

DarkCurrent on August 29, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Stop picking on Obama, he needs more lunch/break/golf/party/wedding/fundraising time!

President Obama has a busy Labor Day weekend planned as he leaves on Air Force One for New York later this afternoon.
Once in New York, President Obama is scheduled to attend two Democratic National Committee fundraisers in the area at private homes.

One of the fundraisers will be a Labor Day Barbecue, hosted by ex-UBS CEO Robert Wolf, who also golfed with the president on Martha’s Vineyard during their vacation.
He will then travel abroad Air Force One to Newport, Rhode Island for a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee fundraiser with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

Saturday, President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama are expected to attend the wedding of MSNBC’s Alex Wagner to his personal White House Chef Sam Kass.
The wedding will be held at the Blue Hill at Stone Barns, a Westchester County farm-to-table restaurant in New Rochelle, New York.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/29/Obama-s-Labor-Day-Weekend-Three-Fundraisers-and-an-MSNBC-Wedding

tanked59 on August 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Does this mean Barry will actually skip the next G-20 and stay home with Moochelle?

formwiz on August 29, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Won’t happen. Putin fears Palin.

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Now that’s funny. Thanks.

Kaffa on August 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Scooter the Choomer wouldn’t do anything if a Red State became a cloud.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Well if red states are not really states you see, then the commander in chief does not have to defend them. If you do not understand this, I am sure Putin will explain it.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Russia is a former superpower which is dying a bitter, sad, painful, demographic death.

Esaus Message on August 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Will this myth never die? Russia actually has a rapidly rising fertility rate (see the graph at the link below), which at 1.7 is now higher than virtually every Western country, and is only slightly lower than the USA’s rate of 1.9. If trends continue Russians will soon be having more children than Americans.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/08/18/russias-total-fertility-rate-is-rapidly-converging-with-americas/

And no, that’s not because of Muslims. In Russia the Slavic and Muslim fertility rates are similar.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/10/23/is-russia-turning-muslim/

Jon0815 on August 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

The problem with that reset button is they just reboot using the same old code. That code seems to include a lot of tanks rolling across borders.

TheGarbone on August 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM

It is nice and swell to use yet another opportunity to scoff at Obama golfing. However, what is exactly the Republican plan of dealing with Russia? Nobody, including the topic-starter, cares. This is why the world is on fire. The events in Ukraine is just a convenient pretext for scoring points in internal political battles.

PBH on August 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Bad news for Borat

cableguy615 on August 29, 2014 at 7:03 PM

It’s a good thing we have those Patriot missile batteries in Poland. /sarc

blammm on August 29, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Question: Should we care that Putin is thinking about invading a Muslim majority Country?

Once again this is a positive development in that Russia and Muslims fighting each other keeps each other busy, freeing the US to harass both.

Let us not forget the last time we tried to help a Muslim country escape Russian “aggression”…Chechnya. We were rewarded by our efforts with marathons being bombed and watching them (Chechens) play one of the leading roles in ISIS.

Basically supporters of a robust American foreign policy need to have a comprehensive plan that is more than simply stopping everyone from fighting each other. Sometimes war is a good thing, like Russians vs. Muslims or Chinese vs. Muslims, or Shias vs. Sunnis, etc…

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Obama will be even more Flexible after the midterms.

Let that soak in.

KMC1 on August 29, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Once again, when the Russians reach the English Channel they will wake up, but this time it will be too late.

leader4hru on August 29, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Even I don’t think Putin is foolish enough to launch a nuclear strike against Poland. Many things he may be, but batshit insane isn’t one of them.

He Who Some Call A Traitor on August 29, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Will this myth never die? Russia actually has a rapidly rising fertility rate (see the graph at the link below), which at 1.7 is now higher than virtually every Western country, and is only slightly lower than the USA’s rate of 1.9. If trends continue Russians will soon be having more children than Americans.

Jon0815 on August 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

LOL

First of all, the birth rate needed for just keeping the population even is 2.1.
At 1.7, Russia’s population is in severe decline.

Secondly, you also have to consider life expectancy, death rate and net migration, all of which drags Russia’s demographics even further down the toilet.

Norwegian on August 29, 2014 at 9:22 PM

There has been a lot of talk about Russian just reclaiming “Russian” territory. This ignores that Russians are the minorities in all these areas. Crimea was the one place were Russians are the majority (that and Belarus).

The really frustrating thing is that it has gotten so bad that whoever the next President will have to force a confrontation, because otherwise it will keep getting worse.

Talking about nuking a “small” country as a warning? Have they gone nuts!

We need to get our nuclear forces in order and ready, cause we might actually have to fight the nuclear Armageddon. God help us all.

A major problem here is that America is the only thing holding NATO up now. We need to have a blunt and honest discussion with other NATO nations about how much they need to put into their military.

Britain should have an aircraft carrier and sufficient sea forces that they and Norway together can hold the North Sea and the Baltic against Russian navy.

Germany and Poland will have to provide the bulk of the infantry and armor. France and Germany need to provide some logistics, and air force.

Heck, maybe we should even push Germany to develop a nuclear force of their own.

Maybe we can’t get Sweden or Finland into NATO, but maybe the Scandinavians could form their own alliance (including Latvia of course).

We got to get cracking on doing something now so that once Russia finishes choking down Ukraine the rest of the West is too dangerous to tangle with.

We also have got to split up China and Russia again.

Sackett on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Kazakhstan will not be next. This isn’t because Putin has such a great respect for their sovereignty. It is because K is a muslim country. Right now their authority, of course, try to resist religious fundamentalists. However, imagine that they realize that they are losing power anyway. They could simply start another wave of jihad. Russia may have enough military strength to fight it but it won’t be pretty. And there will be foreign jihadists, captured and beheaded soldiers, etc. I don’t think Putin is so stupid as to not understand something so obvious.

PBH on August 29, 2014 at 11:24 PM

When Putin and Obama drafted the New Start treaty, Mitt Romney penned an op-ed in the Washington Post about how foolish it was for the U.S. to sign it. It did nothing to Russia, and severely cut U.S. warheads. Most importantly, it allowed Russia to keep their smaller tactical nuclear weapons that could be used for a regional war. It also had a ridiculous preamble that tied the treaty to missile defense, and Putin admitted Russia would cheat if the U.S. did not curb its missile defense.

All Senate Democrats and numerous foolish Senate Republicans voted for this abomination.

Perspicacious on August 30, 2014 at 3:32 AM

China might have some issues with Russian moves into Central Asia. Another Russia-China standoff (like during part of the Cold War) would keep things interesting. Triangulation might be a way to go for the U.S.

Moron Labe on August 30, 2014 at 4:21 AM

As someone who currently lives in Kazakhstan this news while expected is scary.

Barovan on August 30, 2014 at 4:30 AM

The US should stay out of this and let the Europeans handle it. After all they keep bragging about how little they spend on defense — and the world wants us to stop being the World’s Police. Let ‘em have it.

azrael on August 30, 2014 at 9:07 AM

By the time of the next election, we’ll have the Soviet Bloc back, China in control of Taiwan, fighting in Seoul (because the South Koreans won’t roll over), a new Islamic caliphate, and more.

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Exactly as planned.

To paraphrase, “after the election we will be more flexible.” – Obama

njrob on August 30, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Obama is just saying, “peace in our time. Peace in our time.”

njrob on August 30, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Hasn’t one of the lessons in the Middle East been that drawing borders on a map without paying attention to the people inside those borders is inviting trouble? Certainly the city of Uralsk, in the northwest corner of Kazakhstan, looks to be a purely Russian city.

Not defending Putin as virtuous, but Russia’s taking of the Russian-populated part of Kazakhstan might not work out too badly. As for the future containment of Putin’s ambition, I put a certain amount of faith in his being aware that any great military commitment in Russia’s west opens Siberia up to a Chinese invasion.

PersonFromPorlock on August 30, 2014 at 12:43 PM

None of these Central Asian states — Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgistan — are made up purely of the ethnic groups they’re named after. And all have a considerable Russian ethnic presence in certain areas, which varies. If they all dissolved into their “appropriate” ethnic makeups, it would be messy, if possibly inevitable. This goes for Afghanistan too, which also has its share of Turkmen, Uzbeks, and Persians; even the Pashtun are spread between there and Pakistan next door.

Moron Labe on August 30, 2014 at 4:54 PM

The US should stay out of this and let the Europeans handle it. After all they keep bragging about how little they spend on defense — and the world wants us to stop being the World’s Police. Let ‘em have it.

azrael on August 30, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Ay-f*cking-men!

We have babysat their sorry behinds while they played “My Little Socialism”, let their own defense forces rust and now have proto-Jihadis moving in by the thousand. All of Europe is long past due for a hard slap by reality.

LawfulGood on August 31, 2014 at 1:58 PM