More non-existent voter fraud tuns up in Virginia

posted at 8:41 am on August 29, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Hans A. von Spakovsky, writing at the corner, brings us more news of something which is supposed to be an imaginary problem. Hans was previously a member of the board of elections in Fairfax County, Virginia, and has logged some hours of direct experience with voter fraud.

In June, I wrote about how the U.S. Justice Department was totally uninterested in investigating or prosecuting possible non-citizens who had illegally registered and voted in Fairfax County, Virginia, where I formerly was a member of the electoral board.

While I was still on the board in 2011, we sent a letter to both the Justice Department and the county prosecutor, Raymond F. Morrogh (D.) informing them that in checking with the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles, we discovered 278 registered voters who, when they got their driver’s license, informed the DMV that they were not U.S. citizens; 117 of them had actually voted in multiple elections. Registration and voting by non-citizens are serious violations of both state and federal law.

Apparently the problem didn’t fade away after that. The same board has now done another spot check and found 17 people who voted in both Fairfax and Montgomery counties in the same election. And before the usual liberal scoffers start on the typical lines of attack, these were not cases of people with similar names or who had recently moved. These are cases of individuals where the two registration records had the same first, middle and last names, dates of birth and … social security numbers. If that’s a coincidence we need a new definition of the word.

One thing which Democrats say about voter fraud is certainly true… there are relatively few verified cases of it as a percentage of the total number of voters. But as cases like this demonstrate, that situation is almost entirely created by the fact that pretty much nobody is looking for it. It’s a ludicrously easy crime to commit, and almost impossible to be caught at since most places lack the resources – to say nothing of the interest – to discover it. But when people do actually invest the effort, as was done in Fairfax County, a different story emerges.


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Voter fraud. Shocking.

crankyoldlady on August 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM

I’m sure Governor McAulful will help sort this out. He has a large constituency in the Fairfax area.

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Now I am sure they all voted Republican, right?

Hey maybe that’s the ticket: claim they voted for Republicans. We’d get tons of media attention and investigation then.

Oh, and Jazz? “Tuns?”

Vanceone on August 29, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Until someone is willing to use RICO against the democrats the lawlessness will continue.

meci on August 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM

At the Alexandria polling district I voted at in 2012, a poll worker informed those of us waiting in terrible long lines at 0615 that they had only received 2 of 5 electronic voting machines.

The remaining 3 were at the warehouse still being “programmed”

I mentioned this to some family members who worked as election officials who did some subsequent checking to the “respnsible officials”. They reported that ALL machines had been “repoprted” as being delivered in working order.

THIS is how Democrats get 120% + of the vote.

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 8:57 AM

I think there is a missing ‘R’ in the headline.

meci on August 29, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Huh. I was told by Ann Coulter that voter fraud doesn’t matter. Especially when Republicans encourage it.

NWConservative on August 29, 2014 at 8:57 AM

That’s my county alright. Voter fraud and a hotbed of illegal aliens.

bernzright777 on August 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM

17 people?

The left will scoff at 17 people.

But if some “racist” cop intimidates 17 people from voting, they’ll go ballistic.

PackerBronco on August 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Apparently 3 empty electronic voting machine cases arrived

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Th

at’s my county alright. Voter fraud and a hotbed of illegal aliens.

bernzright777 on August 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Not so much in Prince William county since they cracked down on illegals there

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 8:59 AM

I saw voter fraud in my polling place in 2012. There were a bunch of illegals from the low-income apartments in the neighborhood who showed up en masse with their Spanish-language Democrat-provided cheat sheet telling them who to vote for. But the real topper was an individual who was not registered to vote and was not a resident of the precinct (both by his own admission) got a provisional ballot nevertheless.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 8:59 AM

The Dems think that any voter fraud is a relatively minor issue. However, history has shown that it isn’t. There have been dozens of cases in the past few decades where elections were decided by one vote. In those elections, if even two voters were allowed to vote twice, it could have changed the elections results. What if, because of voter fraud, someone was elected that shouldn’t have been. Did that change the political make-up of the legislative or other governmental body? As a result, were laws passed and enacted that wouldn’t have been?

Every instance of voter fraud has wide reaching effects and must be prosecuted. if no one is held accountable for committing voter fraud, they are emboldened to continue and increase the occurances of voter fraud.

Refusal to investigate and prosecute those committing voter fraud is a violation of the oath of office Attornies General and County Prosecutors took. To me, that is an impeachable offense.

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM

And before the usual liberal scoffers start on the typical lines of attack, these were not cases of people with similar names or who had recently moved. These are cases of individuals where the two registration records had the same first, middle and last names, dates of birth and … social security numbers. If that’s a coincidence we need a new definition of the word.

If they’re that bold, but are illegally voting in two different states, even the voter ID laws are only going to make a minor dent in the problem, especially if one of the states is deep Blue and has key people with the same “Vote early, vote often” position as the current administration.

All the info they provide would match up with their driver’s license or other picture ID — the fraud would be having dual driver’s licenses in adjacent states and simply showing one legal license here and another one there. It would be up to the states to create some type of easily searchable digital cross-boarder voter database (as opposed to laboriously checking voter rolls), and again, as long as some states are controlled by Democrats who think voter fraud is a feature, not a bug, that’s never going to happen (though I suppose if one of the states they vote in is Red and actually has officials concerned about fraud, they could be in some danger if they’re somehow found out).

jon1979 on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Voter fraud. Shocking.

crankyoldlady on August 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Voter fraud by illegal aliens, in a country with tens of millions of illegal aliens, none of whom ever get prosecuted for any type of fraud.

Even more shocking.

AZCoyote on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM

If Holder and his henchmen won’t prosecute the crime, it doesn’t exist. Because it doesn’t exist, they don’t need to prosecute it. I kinda like the Arab idea of indelible purple ink on the fingers. However, that is racist.

Old Country Boy on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Not so much in Prince William county since they cracked down on illegals there

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Right on. In remember reading about this. Ya’ll still have sane leadership.

bernzright777 on August 29, 2014 at 9:03 AM

That’s my county alright. Voter fraud and a hotbed of illegal aliens.

bernzright777 on August 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I remember when Fairfax County was one of those places with integrity and not the place where Dems were able to stash the “found” boxes of votes that were “misplaced” until needed for close election returns like the AG race last November. VA now has an AG that has decided on his own that gays can marry despite the rule of law. All based on a 100 vote “mandate” created by fraud.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:03 AM

The interesting thing is, this happened in a state where they ask to see my ID when I vote. Of course, when illegals can legally get an ID, there’s something wrong………

GWB on August 29, 2014 at 9:05 AM

jon1979 on August 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM

This is two counties in the same state.

GWB on August 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM

I saw voter fraud in my polling place in 2012. There were a bunch of illegals from the low-income apartments in the neighborhood who showed up en masse with their Spanish-language Democrat-provided cheat sheet telling them who to vote for. But the real topper was an individual who was not registered to vote and was not a resident of the precinct (both by his own admission) got a provisional ballot nevertheless.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 8:59 AM

I’ve worked the elections as a Precinct Chair several times (my wife is a Township Clerk and administers the elections – I can never work, however, if she is on the ballot – even if she runs unopposed, as she has several times). By law (here in Michigan) someone who claims they are registered to vote in the precinct but do not show up in the Qualified Voter File (ours is computerized via an “Electronic Poll Book”) must be given a provisional ballot which they are allowed to vote, but the vote is not counted unless they can prove that they registered at least 30 days prior to the election.

If they admitted they were not a registered voter in the precinct, we NEVER allow them to vote. We simply, and politely, direct them to the proper polling place. If they are within the Township, to the proper precinct (we can look them up in the “Electronic Poll Book”). If they are from outside the Township, we direct them to either the adjacent Township Hall or City Hall.

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM

The interesting thing is, this happened in a state where they ask to see my ID when I vote. Of course, when illegals can legally get an ID, there’s something wrong………

GWB on August 29, 2014 at 9:05 AM

It will be interesting to see how the illegals respond to the new voter ID law.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:13 AM

If they admitted they were not a registered voter in the precinct, we NEVER allow them to vote. We simply, and politely, direct them to the proper polling place. If they are within the Township, to the proper precinct (we can look them up in the “Electronic Poll Book”). If they are from outside the Township, we direct them to either the adjacent Township Hall or City Hall.

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Here in VA those are basically the rules too- which is why I couldn’t believe that this guy got to vote provisionally.

That being said, I have a beef with MI ballots. When I was living there (in Kent County), all you had to do to vote a straight ticket was to fill in the box next to the elephant or jackass. IMO, voters should respect the vote enough to take the time to vote for individual races.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:17 AM

This is two counties in the same state.

GWB on August 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM

The second voter fraud check mentioned at the bottom of the post talks about the 17 people who double voted in Fairfax and Montgomery counties, which are the ones on the opposite shores of the Potomac in Virgina and Maryland. That the situation where it’s doubtful you could get Maryland’s lawmakers to join a digitized voter registry database to double-check for fraud when it actually can do some good, before the double votes are counted in an election.

jon1979 on August 29, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Sure, there may be only a few instances of verifiable voter fraud in a particular precinct, but multiply that by the number of precincts across the country, and it’s a massive issue.

Syzygy on August 29, 2014 at 9:22 AM

To find voter fraud you have to actually look for it.

The Dems get up on their hind legs to block any investigation into voter fraud, claiming to not waste time on chimera. Funny though, isn’t it (not), that every time we look for voter fraud we find it.

To find voter fraud you have to actually look for it.

ss396 on August 29, 2014 at 9:26 AM

One thing which Democrats say about voter fraud is certainly true… there are relatively few verified cases of it as a percentage of the total number of voters.

That’s irrelevant when you have races like the AG election that was won by a mere 165 votes.

blammm on August 29, 2014 at 9:27 AM

To find voter fraud you have to actually look for it.

ss396 on August 29, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Maybe it’s sitting in the trunk of some voting official’s car. Right next to the extra ballot boxes.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM

I’ve heard that the DFL already has trunkfuls of Al Franken ballots ready to be deployed across Brooklyn Park, Edina and several other twin cities neighborhoods.

Democrats have got vote fraud down to a process.

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM

That’s irrelevant when you have races like the AG election that was won by a mere 165 votes.

blammm on August 29, 2014 at 9:27 AM

And resulted in a de facto overturning the laws on SSM and in-state tuition for the illegal parasites at public universities.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:30 AM

That being said, I have a beef with MI ballots. When I was living there (in Kent County), all you had to do to vote a straight ticket was to fill in the box next to the elephant or jackass. IMO, voters should respect the vote enough to take the time to vote for individual races.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:17 AM

I hear ya. If I were king, straight party tickets would be abolished. People should be forced to do their homework and check out who they are voting for. My wife worries about having a Dem opponent for Township Clerk because so many people in our Township vote Dem. I tell her that no one in their right mind would want to be Township Clerk – she has to do all the work. She does the budget, all HR functions, runs the elections, issues building and sign permits, keeps the records, etc. The offices to run for are either Supervisor or Treasurer. They don’t do much. All three, Supervisor, Treasurer, and Clerk, are full-time positions.

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Maybe it’s sitting in the trunk of some voting official’s car. Right next to the extra ballot boxes.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM

I’m amazed when I hear stories of ballots that just turn up. Here in MI, the official votes are those registered on a computer pack loaded in the “Tabulator” machine. The paper ballots are back up. After the election, we have to report to a Township Election Review Board (consisting of one Dem and one GOP) who check everything under the watchful eye of the Clerk. EVERY ballot must be accounted for. There is no way some could be “discovered” in the trunk of a car. Besides, it’s whats on the computer pack that counts. The computer pack is transported to the County Clerk (by my wife – GOP – and her Deputy – a Dem) where the results are checks again. Why other states do not use the same procedures baffles me.

The fraud in MI occurs with Absentee Ballots where anyone can fill out the ballot. And in Detroit, where the Clerk was corrupt and worked around the one Dem and one GOP being present whenever ballots were handled.

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:40 AM

GAlpha10 on August 29, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Same here in PA. The majority and minority inspectors ride in the same car to the County Voter Services office to drop off the computer and the paper ballots after the numbers are reconciled at the polling place. There’s no way a single extra ballot could be added afterwards.

blammm on August 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM

More non-existent voter fraud tuns up in Virginia

Vanna, I will take an R…

hillsoftx on August 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Oh, and Jazz? “Tuns?”

Sure a tun is a barrel that holds 200 or so gallons, so what he is saying is that there was a giant barrel full of fraud.

Work with me here.

F X Muldoon on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Oh, hypocrisy thy name is liberal. For instance, you constantly hear from liberal, Latino politicians like, say, that snake Gutiérrez from Chicago that attempts to create voter ID requirements are trying to suppress the vote. In the case of Gutiérrez, that’s a REAL laugh since he claims to be so down with us Puerto Ricans and stuff. Yet you don’t see him protesting the voting system here, which is a model that would delight any Tea Partier.

Let’s take a look at the system that Gutiérrez knows full well is used here, and which contributes to a more than 80% voter participation rate:

1. The government maintains voter registration centers open year round, election year or no. Each district has its own sign-up place. You go in there with three forms of ID – a current water or light bill to prove you live in Puerto Rico, a passport to prove you’re a U.S. citizen, and a birth certificate or driver’s license. Three forms of ID. The staff are helpful and knowledgeable, and are fully bilingual.

2. They issue you a nifty modern voter’s card right on the spot. A photo ID that can’t be forged, with your name, electoral district, and address on it. It is such a bulletproof ID that it is considered acceptable to apply for a loan at a bank or prove ID for your credit card. It can even get you through NSA security at the airport.

3. In the months leading up to the election, they advertise everywhere from television to bus stops that you MUST sign up and get your voter’s ID at least a MONTH before the election. All the popular stars get involved with PSA campaigns. Then a month before the election, they close all the signup spots. You didn’t have time to get there? Tough luck. You’re a Dominican and don’t have a valid U.S. passport? Tough luck.

4. The day of the voting, you show up to the polling place. First you go to one table where they scan your voter ID into the system to confirm that it’s genuine. Then you go to another table where they check their extensive lists, confirm you are on the list in that district, and dunk your finger in black ink. Your fingerprint goes next to your name, which is then crossed out.

5. When you go to the voting booth, there is a person at the door with a wand who checks both hands for evidence of the ink they will dunk your finger into on the way out the door.

6. You go to the ballots table where, before handing you your papers, they again check your ID, scan it, cross reference you on the list, and cross out your name. You vote, drop your ballot in the boxes, and leave.

7. On the way out, they grab your hand and dunk your finger in invisible, phosphorescent ink that takes days to wash off.

There are never screams about voter fraud here. You don’t have illegal Dominicans or Haitians protesting for the right to vote. People get very emotional about the elections, but they accept the results without question because everyone KNOWS how hard it would be to commit fraud.

Now riddle me this: Why aren’t there screams and gnashing of teeth in the national press about the suppression of the minority vote in Puerto Rico? Why do Puerto Ricans (and other Latinos) join in the circus of liberal hand-wringing about suppressing the vote when they move up there, when they would NEVER accept the slipshod American system of “I’ll take your word for it” here?

JoseQuinones on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

The second voter fraud check mentioned at the bottom of the post talks about the 17 people who double voted in Fairfax and Montgomery counties, which are the ones on the opposite shores of the Potomac in Virgina and Maryland.

jon1979 on August 29, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Ah, I didn’t check (I know there is a Montgomery county in Va, too). Thank you.

GWB on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

The underpinning of a democracy settling matters by voting depends on people believing the process is legitimate. Once you lose that image of legitimacy, people will start deciding that going outside the system is justified. Even a small number of prosecutions resulting in people getting 5 years in prison would deter a much larger number of people from attempting fraud in the first place. Such convictions should not just be sought but publicized widely.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 9:59 AM

The second voter fraud check mentioned at the bottom of the post talks about the 17 people who double voted in Fairfax and Montgomery counties, which are the ones on the opposite shores of the Potomac in Virgina and Maryland.

jon1979 on August 29, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Federal government workers feel doubly entitled

Roy Rogers on August 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM

If only the Dems would publish a guide on how to do, it would become a fair election. Kind of mano e mano.

COgirl on August 29, 2014 at 10:32 AM

It will be interesting to see how the illegals respond to the new voter ID law.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:13 AM

With their usual entitled outrage.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Since when did Democrats consider voter fraud a crime?

GarandFan on August 29, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Since when did Democrats consider voter fraud a crime?

GarandFan on August 29, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Never. To them, it’s not a crime, it’s a favorite strategy.

Midas on August 29, 2014 at 10:59 AM

NO early voting and purple fingers.

Basic fraud defenses.

BobMbx on August 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Got to remember….. it’s only voter fraud if republicans do it.

ultracon on August 29, 2014 at 11:03 AM

You know, we are going to get to the point where we find out the Choom Gang vote frauded its way to “re-election” at some point.

formwiz on August 29, 2014 at 11:18 AM

There’s no way a single extra ballot could be added afterwards.

blammm on August 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM

And yet extra ballots show up with an astonishing regularity, don’t they? And always to tip the election more to the Left.

Republican votes never seem to get lost; only votes for Democrats do. What an odd coincidence…

Nothin’ to see here folks; just move along.

ss396 on August 29, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Voter fraud is just another tool for the Dems. They have no respect for the rule of law, only power. That’s why they made such a big effort to take over each state’s Secretary of State office, because in many states, that office is in charge of counting the votes.
Like Stalin said, it doesn’t matter who votes, what matters is who does the counting.

Iblis on August 29, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Motor voter + Illegal Aliens = Unexpectedly

Hell, they shouldn’t even be eligible for the motor part.

Oxymoron on August 29, 2014 at 12:36 PM

If the cover is ever ripped off the astounding, institutionalized voter fraud here in Washington state, one hell of a lot of Democrats are going to prison.
Register by mail! As many times as you like!
No ID verification required, but that’s okay because we give drivers licenses to illegals and then use that as ID to vote!
Vote by mail! There is no limit to voting by mail!!
200 people registered to vote in the same residential address? No problem, welcome, señor!

KMN

Tard on August 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

I don’t understand how people can just say “oh well, nothing we can do about it now” after the election and significant voter fraud has been found. Especially enough to sway the outcome. Why can’t we remove that person from office and hold a special election? All of the same candidates can be on the ballot as before but we shouldn’t just say nothing can be done after the fact if the validity of the results are in question. Make the states pay for the special elections and for any other costs driven by allowing crooked, or at least negligent enforcement to occur in their jurisdiction. And the money must come from their general fund, not some partisan sugar daddy. I’ll bet after shelling out a boat load of money a few times, the states may pay a little closer attention to the fraud in the their voting booths.

Big John on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

More non-existent voter fraud tuns up in Virginia

This has been going on since the first elections held in this Republic. Paid votes as well.

It’s not right, but tolerating criminality for over 200 years pretty much sets a precedence through acceptance of past practices.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

One thing which Democrats say about voter fraud is certainly true… there are relatively few verified cases of it as a percentage of the total number of voters.

Yeah, because the Justice Department never investigates them. It’s impossible to find fraud when you don’t bother to look and verify cases already found.

Don’t want to mess up that narrative, now do we.

Patriot Vet on August 29, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I like to point out that pre-MADD, there was very little drunken driving in the US, or at least very few convictions for it.

PersonFromPorlock on August 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM