America has no strategy, but ISIS does: Biological terrorism

posted at 9:21 am on August 29, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The nature of the threat the Islamic State poses to the West is a subject of much debate. Some indicate that the group is planning to execute attacks in the West at its nearest opportunity, while others say that the organization has designs only on capturing and holding territory in its neighborhood – and that’s a range of confused opinions coming from former and current administration officials.

While there is a robust debate over whether ISIS is planning to execute terrorist attacks against Western targets, there should be no debate that the origination is actively seeking the capability to carry out terror strikes.

According to a report in Foreign Policy magazine on Thursday, investigators recently had an opportunity to inspect a Dell laptop allegedly linked to ISIS which was transported to Turkey from Syria. In that laptop, which belonged to a man who studied chemistry and physics at two Tunisian universities, contained files with instructions on how to manufacture weaponized bacterial agents.

The ISIS laptop contains a 19-page document in Arabic on how to develop biological weapons and how to weaponize the bubonic plague from infected animals.

“The advantage of biological weapons is that they do not cost a lot of money, while the human casualties can be huge,” the document states.

The document includes instructions for how to test the weaponized disease safely, before it is used in a terrorist attack. “When the microbe is injected in small mice, the symptoms of the disease should start to appear within 24 hours,” the document says.

The laptop also contained propaganda files, videos of Osama bin Laden, and an Islamic fatwa sanctioning the use of weapons of mass destruction as part of a jihad campaign against the kafir, or infidels.

Experts suggest that it is no that manufacture of biological agents which poses the most acute threat, but the delivery system for such a weapon. However, the laptop is a confirmation of what many feared – the Islamic State is amassing trained scientific professionals who are busily working on how to make that nightmare a reality.

“Use small grenades with the virus, and throw them in closed areas like metros, soccer stadiums, or entertainment centers,” the 19-page document on biological weapons advises. “Best to do it next to the air-conditioning. It also can be used during suicide operations.”

Maybe it is time to craft a strategy to combat this threat to civilization.

This post has been updated since its original publication. An earlier version of this post cited a report in Foreign Affairs magazine


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Obama’s Hazy Sense of History

A Pollyannaish belief in historical predetermination seems to substitute for action. If Obama believes that evil should be absent in the 21st century, or that the arc of the moral universe must always bend toward justice, or that being on the wrong side of history has consequences, then he may think inanimate forces can take care of things as we need merely watch.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 9:25 AM

“Use small grenades with the virus, and throw them in closed areas like metros, soccer stadiums, or entertainment centers,” the 19-page document on biological weapons advises. “Best to do it next to the air-conditioning. It also can be used during suicide operations.”

Yeah, because we see lots of metro’s, stadiums and entertainment centers in islamic hell holes – these knuckle dragging barbarians must be stopped. They are going to hit us and Obama has “no plan”.

Unfrikken real.

Key West Reader on August 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM

“Use small grenades with the virus, and throw them in closed areas like metros, soccer stadiums, or entertainment centers,” the 19-page document on biological weapons advises. “Best to do it next to the air-conditioning. It also can be used during suicide operations.”

Tom Clancy, 1996, Exexcutive Orders

Ebola
Trade Shows
Airisol cans

the drill sgt on August 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM

HeIIfire I get the distinct sense folks would settle for some strategery at this point.

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Experts suggest that it is no that manufacture of biological agents which poses the most acute threat, but the delivery system for such a weapon.

?

NorthernCross on August 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Obama cant be bothered with this….hes going to Italy for clooneys wedding

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Level Mecca and Medina at the first terrorist attack on the U.S.
Then move on to the capitals of Muslim countries with subsequent attacks.

justltl on August 29, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Bio-weapons. Worst nightmare.

petefrt on August 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM

?

NorthernCross on August 29, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Its a Noahism.

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Getting fairly sick of the lefts pathetic narrative that only Republicans can be critical of this administration. From Politico:

“The inartful phrase quickly went viral among right-leaning media outlets and Republican figures, pushing the White House into damage control mode”.

Why is every presidential gaffe on Politico, (and other liberal news media outlets), prefaced with “right-leaning media and Republican figures” as if they, (ONLY REPUBLICANS OR THE RIGHT), are capable of criticizing the President’s indecisions? Is it just possible that many AMERICANS—with no political slant—might also wonder what Mr. Obama meant when he said “there is no strategy yet”???

Associated Press can’t/won’t even use the word INVASION when describing Russia’s assault on Ukraine. The AP also reported that more than 160 Syrian government troops massacred by ISIS, and used the title: “JIHADISTS KILL DOZENS OF CAPTURED SYRIAN SOLDIERS.” WOW! “DOZENS” Hmmm, let’s see, could it have been over THIRTEEN DOZEN MASSACRED? The “media” seems to be going out of their way to desensitize the turmoil happening around the world, and right on cue, ONLY REPUBLICANS make the headlines as the critics. I find it impossible to believe DEMOCRATS are incapable or don’t have a single thought/criticism of our President’s actions.

Mr. Obama has gone from just last week claiming his intention to “eliminating the “cancer” of ISIS” to now professing he, (and his military strategist), have no strategy.

The (CONFUSION), is not a Republican or Democrat concern, (as Politico would have us believe), it’s an American concern. All of us would like to know what and how the President plans to address all of these foreign policy nightmares, not just Republicans.

Seriously, it’s a given that no one is sure how to directly eradicate ISIS or put the brakes on Putin’s expansionism. But to point the finger at Republicans as the ONLY ENTITY exclusively criticizing this administration’s actions—or inactions—is a narrative running on empty.

Rovin on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

I prefer the “Big Jake” strategy, vis-a-vis Mecca.

“And now *you* understand. Anything goes wrong, anything at all… your fault, my fault, nobody’s fault… it won’t matter – I’m gonna drop a nuke on Mecca. No matter what else happens, no matter who gets killed I’m gonna drop a nuke on Mecca.”

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

This is just stunning.

We don’t have a strategy yet,” Mr. Obama said

When has a president ever made such a statement?

Then the standard Obama blame deflection;

Following the speech, the White House clarified Mr. Obama’s remarks about strategy. “The president was asked a specific question about possible military action in Syria against ISIL, and he was explicit that he is still waiting for plans that are being developed by the Pentagon for military options against ISIL in Syria,”

Right. So its the military’s fault. Got it.

The military always has plans to deal with every current and foreseeable conflict. It’s what they do. It’s part of their mission.

My bet is the military has multiple plans and the president won’t decide on a course of actions because- politics. This has been his modus operandi on every op. He hesitates for political considerations.

It is why Mr. Foley was beheaded and people continue to die (by the way, where is that movie Hollywood? You know. the one where the president lacks courage to make the call and goes golfing instead.)

Mr. Obama has eliminated our military’s role is preventing violence or genocide simply through the threat of force. He has eliminated them as a balancing force for good. They are out of the equation and bad people are trampling across the world. I have no doubt this ends up in another domestic attack. It’s not a matter of “if”, but when.

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Nothing will happen because Obama will isssue a common sense EO banning high capacity biological agents and explody things that go up.

All is well America, keep debating on who can marry who or what and if dogs and cats should have drivers licences because human rights.

All is well. Obama’s got this.

Gatsu on August 29, 2014 at 9:33 AM

The time to stop Hitler was when he crossed into the Rhineland, not when he crossed into Poland.

You stop a threat when it’s only a potential threat, not when it’s an existential threat.

rbj on August 29, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Want an easy bio-weapon? Just kidnap some South American with a rare jungle disease, or an African with a case of smallpox, and drop him off in the ER of a crowded US hospital. Boom.

Our unsecured border: still a greater threat than ISIS.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Obama’s crew and the media can’t wait for us to get hit.

docflash on August 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM

The ISO (Islamic States of Obama) have been working for over four years on ways in which to attack the West. Obama golfed.

IMO, his admission that he is clueless about what to do yesterday was a “Mission Accomplished” moment. Made of his own reluctance to admit that he’s been a failure at foreign affairs. I guess apologizing for America in Cairo in 2009 wasn’t as brilliant as he thought.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Why did we have the presser yesterday if we were just going to announce we have no strategy?

“If you are going to shoot, shoot don’t talk” Tuco Ramirez

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM

+1 rovin

Hear hear

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM

I remember seeing a similar report found on another laptop from several years ago. This sounds sort of like a recycling of that. The one I remember even had some video of experiments using nerve gas on dogs.

Oldnuke on August 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Spot on HN

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM

there should be no debate that the origination is actively seeking the capability to carry out terror strikes.

should be organization?????

Lord Whorfin on August 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM

I would think it would be easier for them to just expose the children coming into the US from Central America through Mexico and leave it to the Federal government to move the infection around America for them. They would never even have to set foot in the US.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Bioweapons are not very effective as a tool of actual damage. I will add in chemical weapons to that as well. They are far more effective in scaring the sheepish masses with little scientific training.

Did you know Canada/Finland/Pakistan/American Samoa could sneak nukes through the Northern border and then use them in a major city? OMG. Did you also know that if some random person/gangbanger/whatever wanted to go do some serious damage in a public venue before being put down, it is likely he could do so?

You do realize that lots of terribly bad things could happen on a daily basis and we have no ability to prevent it, right?

antisense on August 29, 2014 at 9:39 AM

And it’s not the “inartful phrase” that is revealing. It is the damage control which essentially states he’s waiting for the military to draw up plans.

Right. Because the military is sitting around waiting for the president to tell them what to do.

Military preparedness is part of our forces creed. There are people who spend every waking moment making plans that anticipate or address threats.

There are already military options and plans. The president is once again sitting on his duff and dawdling due to politics, while the enemy prepares their defenses and possible offensive actions.

This has the potential to not end well and there are two people to blame. Mr. Obama and Mrs Clinton who set this destruction in motion.

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM

That’s a pretty good one. Too easily confused with the ISO standards thingy?

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:41 AM

This report is simply a tactic for whatever thinktank/organization to get more funding.

The delivery systems discussed here are very poor for delivering chemical or biological agent.

Also I noticed Noah hasn’t been allowed to post as much. I wonder why?

antisense on August 29, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Not saying this is no problem, or not a danger.

But bio weapons are difficult to handle, difficult to execute.

It’s just not a matter of throwing stuff in the air. The panic will cause more problems than the actual substance.

In an open warfare field, where you can air drop massive amounts, or have unique delivery systems that can disperse large amounts, it is can be devastating.

I don’t know of any instance where it has been used in a theater or restaurant, etc. and been effective.

I think the fear and panic is what will be the real problem.

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 9:43 AM

A Pollyannaish belief in historical predetermination seems to substitute for action. If Obama believes that evil should be absent in the 21st century, or that the arc of the moral universe must always bend toward justice, or that being on the wrong side of history has consequences, then he may think inanimate forces can take care of things as we need merely watch.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 9:25 AM

When Obama has such a hissy fit, he thinks it has some external, objective meaning. As if his, or anyone’s, sense of personal outrage matters. It may feel like it matters, but it doesn’t. You actually have to DO something to make it matter.

LashRambo on August 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM

My bet is the military has multiple plans and the president won’t decide on a course of actions because- politics. This has been his modus operandi on every op. He hesitates for political considerations.
Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Spot on Marcus. He’s so torn on which direction to go, (between satisfying his political allies and doing what’s right), leadership, as usual falls by the wayside. Mr. Dither is surprising no one, not even ISIS.

Rovin on August 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM

This is the kind of stuff ISO (Islamic States of Obama) does while our rat-eared leader puts on a brown suit and refers to them as “folks.”

BEIRUT – The Islamic State group killed more than 150 troops captured in recent fighting for a string of military bases in northeastern Syria, shooting some and slashing others with knives in the past 24 hours in the latest mass killing attributed to the extremists, activists said Thursday.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Here’s a strategy for you Mr. Obama. How about we immediately halt travel to the US from majority Muslim countries? How about we immediately deny entry to the US by persons who self-identify as Muslim? Then how about we kill, with extreme prejudice, everything that moves in the ISIS “caliphate”? There you go, not so hard once you identify the problem: Islam, and the people who practice it, i.e., Muslims.

wkh on August 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM

That’s a pretty good one. Too easily confused with the ISO standards thingy?

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:41 AM

There may be some confusion but, damn it, how can you not look at the situation without concluding that Obama is the founding father of this new Islamic state? He’s their George Washington, Simon Bolivar, and Che Guevara rolled up into a bitter rat-eared package.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

I think the fear and panic is what will be the real problem.

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Off topic, but how about a dirty bomb? That is, with nuclear material, spread around Times Square. Or, if they could get a suitcase nuke from Pakistan, they’d love that. That would be like dozens of 9/11/01s at once.

LashRambo on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Some indicate that the group is planning to execute attacks in the West at its nearest opportunity, while others say that the organization has designs only on capturing and holding territory in its neighborhood – and that’s a range of confused opinions coming from former and current administration officials.

Isn’t there a date with some significance within the next couple of weeks that might give us a little reason for concern? A date on which thousands of Americans have lost their lives do to terrorist attacks? A date on which 4 Americans were murdered at a US diplomatic facility?

I am really concerned that we aren’t hearing anything on what the administration is doing to protect Americans as 9/11 is less than 2 weeks away.

I pray that there is no significant attack against Americans approaching.

airupthere on August 29, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Sure does have the appearance of that as it plays out before us. Still so many are in denial about him. It is truly saddening how we are seemingly surrounded by the low info set.

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Spot on Marcus. He’s so torn on which direction to go, (between satisfying his political allies and doing what’s right), leadership, as usual falls by the wayside. Mr. Dither is surprising no one, not even ISIS.

Rovin on August 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Not torn on directions- that suggests he wants to do something. The rat-eared wonder has painted himself into a corner. Nothing about what is going on with ISO in Syria is in synch with his justification for supporting the rebels against Assad. The weak defense that ISO territory really doesn’t overlap with Assad’s sphere of influence would be laughable if this wasn’t part of the comments being uttered by the POTUS.

I guess we know now that you can put the JV team in a brown suit but that doesn’t make them Ronald Reagan.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

The panic will cause more problems than the actual substance.

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 9:43 AM

That’s all they need. A stampeding herd of panicking New Yorkers packed in a subway station could kill or injure dozens. Causing a similar panic in several cities simultaneously could do much more.

A few people get sick, maybe one or two die, and the whole city would be on lockdown.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Off topic, but how about a dirty bomb? That is, with nuclear material, spread around Times Square. Or, if they could get a suitcase nuke from Pakistan, they’d love that. That would be like dozens of 9/11/01s at once.

LashRambo on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Yeah, I get it, but that has been tossed around for years, it is much more difficult, from what little I have read, to actually do it.

I think the panic and the “shiny object” is what will end up being the real problem.

We have very sophisticated detection devices that scan for radioactive materials…and a “suitcase” nuke just is exciting and sounds real, I am not sure anyone has ever actually built one that is as undetectable or even that works…maybe it is there and someone will point it out as being fact.

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM

We don’t have a strategy yet,” Mr. Obama said

When has a president ever made such a statement?

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

i don’t think even carter would make such a statement. it’s not something you say out loud.

independent76 on August 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM

The “rules” of war mean nothing to the IS madmen. Their only desire is to kill, kill and kill again.

sadatoni on August 29, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Or, if they could get a suitcase nuke from Pakistan, they’d love that. That would be like dozens of 9/11/01s at once.

LashRambo on August 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM

I’m not sure a suitcase nuke has ever existed (maybe a somewhat heavy backpack nuke), but Pakistan certainly does not have one if they are possible. Miniaturization of nuclear devices is highly advanced stuff that is more science fiction than fact. It is extremely difficult to pack enough conventional energy into such small packages to initiate a nuclear reaction.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Sure does have the appearance of that as it plays out before us. Still so many are in denial about him. It is truly saddening how we are seemingly surrounded by the low info set.

Bmore on August 29, 2014 at 9:53 AM

When it comes to issues like ISO or Syria, I’m not so sure “low info” is a fair comment. Foreign affairs don’t touch most American’s lives directly. Throw in the fact that the situation in Iraq and Syria is “muddled.” It is less about low info then it is a naive belief that those in Foggy Bottom and the West Wing are capable of handling the affairs of state.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

David Cameron on TV sounding like a leader. Anyone else listening? Maybe Obama is listening..Cameron will address parliament on Monday. Sounds like he will be working this weekend.

esr1951 on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

That’s all they need. A stampeding herd of panicking New Yorkers packed in a subway station could kill or injure dozens. Causing a similar panic in several cities simultaneously could do much more.

A few people get sick, maybe one or two die, and the whole city would be on lockdown.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Exactly, throw a sack of flour into a crowd, after it has been 24/7 discussed that bio weapons will be deployed and probably look much like flour…and you have panic.

A little bit of powder in an envelope will clear out a building…just think of a plane dropping flour on a stadium…

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Oh 0b00ba’s got a strategy awright:

Having already lifted the “don’t ask, don’t tell” ban on gays in the military, the Pentagon “likely will” allow transgendered Americans to serve openly in the military where 15,500 now secretly serve, according to a new report issued by top former generals.

Three of the top brass, endorsing the deployment of transgendered troops, also said their effort has the support of Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and President Obama.

In a statement accompanying the 29-page report issued Tuesday, they said, “Our conclusion is that allowing transgender personnel to serve openly is administratively feasible and will not be burdensome or complicated. Three months have passed since Defense Secretary Hagel announced a willingness to review the military’s ban on transgender service, an effort the White House indicated it supports.”

Akzed on August 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM

This sentence “Experts suggest that it is no that manufacture of biological agents which poses the most acute threat, but the delivery system for such a weapon.” needs to be reworded.

Imrahil on August 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM

the chem weapons residues in their new factory have plans I guess.

dmacleo on August 29, 2014 at 10:02 AM

oooooohh, now Cameron is taking questions..

esr1951 on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

A few people get sick, maybe one or two die, and the whole city would be on lockdown.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Look how the country reacted by bringing in one guy who had symptoms of a contagious disease that is easily contained…

It doesn’t take much to panic sheep…

right2bright on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

PM Cameron may be an ineffective leader but he
sure sounds stronger and more resolved than o .

Lucano on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

while others say that the organization has designs only on capturing and holding territory in its neighborhood

How can any person hold this view in light of the stated goals of Islamist? That view is willfully ignoring history and voluminous amounts of evidence to the contrary and is extremely dangerous to the US and the rest of the civilized world.

The number of people in the middle east who have needlessly died on Obama’s watch and will die is sickening.

Aplombed on August 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Well these guys want to kill in mass it seems brutal effectiveness seems to be what they are going for.

sorrowen on August 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Mark Levin brought this up yesterday. Here’s what a real leader would be saying. From Reagan’s 1980 nominatoin acceptance speech. Tell me you aren’t saying amen by the end of this brief part of the speech. The whole thing is worth a read.

Never before in our history have Americans been called upon to face three grave threats to our very existence, any one of which could destroy us. We face a disintegrating economy, a weakened defense and an energy policy based on the sharing of scarcity.

The major issue of this campaign is the direct political, personal and moral responsibility of Democratic Party leadership–in the White House and in Congress–for this unprecedented calamity which has befallen us. They tell us they have done the most that humanly could be done. They say that the United States has had its day in the sun; that our nation has passed its zenith. They expect you to tell your children that the American people no longer have the will to cope with their problems; that the future will be one of sacrifice and few opportunities.

My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. The American people, the most generous on earth, who created the highest standard of living, are not going to accept the notion that we can only make a better world for others by moving backwards ourselves. Those who believe we can have no business leading the nation.

I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose. We have come together here because the American people deserve better from those to whom they entrust our nation’s highest offices, and we stand united in our resolve to do something about it.

We need rebirth of the American tradition of leadership at every level of government and in private life as well. The United States of America is unique in world history because it has a genius for leaders–many leaders–on many levels. But, back in 1976, Mr. Carter said, “Trust me.” And a lot of people did. Now, many of those people are out of work. Many have seen their savings eaten away by inflation. Many others on fixed incomes, especially the elderly, have watched helplessly as the cruel tax of inflation wasted away their purchasing power. And, today, a great many who trusted Mr. Carter wonder if we can survive the Carter policies of national defense.

“Trust me” government asks that we concentrate our hopes and dreams on one man; that we trust him to do what’s best for us. My view of government places trust not in one person or one party, but in those values that transcend persons and parties. The trust is where it belongs–in the people. The responsibility to live up to that trust is where it

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25970

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM

I’m not sure a suitcase nuke has ever existed (maybe a somewhat heavy backpack nuke), but Pakistan certainly does not have one if they are possible. Miniaturization of nuclear devices is highly advanced stuff that is more science fiction than fact. It is extremely difficult to pack enough conventional energy into such small packages to initiate a nuclear reaction.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

lot of russian ra115 (aroud 65lb iirc) reported missing after the breakup. pakistan could have some, however doubtful.

dmacleo on August 29, 2014 at 10:06 AM

PM Cameron may be an ineffective leader but he
sure sounds stronger and more resolved than o .

Lucano on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

After six years of listening to Obama, the bar may be set pretty low, but he still sounds good. Explaining, going into details,

esr1951 on August 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM

ISO (the Islamic States of Obama). Good one, HN, and I’m sure it fulfills the Dreams of [His] Father as well.

TXUS on August 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Whether it is a peaceful or ultra-violent Muslim both have the same religious goals.
Islam every where.

Muslims care not about the country they live in or loyal to that country…they are only citizens of the Big Mo.

albill on August 29, 2014 at 10:08 AM

lot of russian ra115 (aroud 65lb iirc) reported missing after the breakup. pakistan could have some, however doubtful.

dmacleo on August 29, 2014 at 10:06 AM

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Considering the quality of Russian-made…oh…everything, I doubt I’ll lose much sleep over the possibility that some of those devices are sitting unmaintained in the hands of some of the most ignorant people on the planet.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Obama is bombing the barbarians.
Seems like a strategy to me.

weedisgood on August 29, 2014 at 10:14 AM

So let me get this straight…the JayVees (not to be confused with Jay C…Obama says he’s super cool) are looking to manufacture bio-weapons and other WMD. And we have no strategy yet for dealing with said JV team?

“What, me worry?!” – Alfred E. Obama

Really no one should be surprised at all. Alfred E. Obama not only doesn’t have a strategy to deal with ISIS, he doesn’t have a strategy to deal with ANYTHING.

Wyznowski on August 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I Slam, You Slam, we all go KaBaam for ISLAM. Remember, Islam is the religion of peace… once the infadels have all been rounded up and exterminated. But I know, forgive those who trespass among us and who have or seek to harm us … blah blah blah.

stuartm80127 on August 29, 2014 at 10:23 AM

ISO (the Islamic States of Obama). Good one, HN, and I’m sure it fulfills the Dreams of [His] Father as well.

TXUS on August 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM

It fulfills his dreams of humbling America before her enemies too.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:32 AM

others say that the organization has designs only on capturing and holding territory in its neighborhood

That’s quite retarded, sir.

lynncgb on August 29, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Obama is bombing the barbarians.
Seems like a strategy to me.

weedisgood on August 29, 2014 at 10:14 AM

This would be because you are a doper who pretends you’re smoking “medicine”.

You do understand that the word strategy has an actual meaning, right?

It’s precisely the opposite of
“flailing around aimlessly in reaction to political criticism”, which what Dear Leader is doing.

Dolce Far Niente on August 29, 2014 at 10:34 AM

The nature of the threat the Islamic State poses to the West is a subject of much debate. Some indicate that the group is planning to execute attacks in the West at its nearest opportunity, while others say that the organization has designs only on capturing and holding territory in its neighborhood – and that’s a range of confused opinions coming from former and current administration officials.

There really should not be any doubt about the intentions of ISIS. The only question is which attacks take priority.
If ISIS is forced to deal with pushback while consolidating territory in Syria and Iraq, they will undoubtedly concentrate their efforts at maintaining their gains. However, if there is little resistance on their home turf, they will soon expand their attacks against infidels.
Establishing a global caliphate is their ultimate goal, and there is no room within that caliphate for infidels, other than as slaves, dhimmis, or corpses.

bobthm3 on August 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM

It fulfills his dreams of humbling America before her enemies too.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:32 AM

At this point when the next attack happens on our soil (I an very nervous for Las Vegas right now) I will put as much blame on dogeater as I will on the terrorists. We are doing NOTHING to stop it.

VegasRick on August 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Obama’s crew and the media can’t wait for us to get hit.

docflash on August 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Until you can get the LIVs to understand and believe this, we’re f*****.

Arrogant jackwads who think somehow they’ll be spared and only the “little people” will die.

HikaruKitsune on August 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM

However, if there is little resistance on their home turf, they will soon expand their attacks against infidels.
Establishing a global caliphate is their ultimate goal, and there is no room within that caliphate for infidels, other than as slaves, dhimmis, or corpses.

bobthm3 on August 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM

ISIS is in a requiting war with AQ so a “hit” on the US would be a big publicity boon. We should be making them hide in caves and run for their lives, instead azzhole goes golfing and fund raising.

VegasRick on August 29, 2014 at 10:44 AM

You do realize that lots of terribly bad things could happen on a daily basis and we have no ability to prevent it, right?

We have a President who is ALLOWING bad things to happen.

kozanne on August 29, 2014 at 10:46 AM

“We don’t have a strategy yet”, is not something that should be said out loud by the leader of the most powerful nation on earth. Ever. Especially when wearing a yellow suit. 9-ll is coming up soon, real soon.

Kissmygrits on August 29, 2014 at 10:48 AM

At this point when the next attack happens on our soil (I an very nervous for Las Vegas right now) I will put as much blame on dogeater as I will on the terrorists. We are doing NOTHING to stop it.

VegasRick on August 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Wait a minute! Are you suggesting that spending weeks on vacation, golfing, fundraising, parties, and trying out a new look at a presser DOESN’T help in thwarting ISO?

Good thing he’s spending the weekend in the Situation Room working with the DoD and Congressional leaders to come up with a belated response……. Oh, nevermind. Fundraising and a mini-vacation in the Hamptons are in store for this weekend. Maybe he’ll get around to ISO next week if Beyonce isn’t performing in the East Room or something.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Of course, the worst thing will be when FEMA gets involved – after the attack!

OldEnglish on August 29, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Maybe, just maybe, Obama has no strategy because no one around him, including the ass kissing Generals have no strategy either. The generals are too concerned with developing social experiments in the ranks and taking the chaplains and bibles out of the ranks and coddling deserters. So, it is no surprise that they have no strategy. Honestly, did it surprise anyone with half a brain? What strategy has the Obama ass kissers shown in regards to any military plans against the enemy except retreat. And the fkg Pubs. with the exception of McCain and Graham who were excoriated by the Pub. Libertarians and the rest of the cowards calling themselves leaders. Has Hagel ever had a plan for anything or a strategy? He’s a low IQ dunce from the Pub. party. Kerry has never had a strategy that did not include cozying up to the enemy and capitulation. He has a history of being a treasonous ***tard. So, now, the pubs. all of a sudden are shocked that Obama has no strategy. Well, they have none, either. Which means we are all screwed.

they lie on August 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM

I want to remind everyone that Obama is brilliant. He has played the “no strategy” meme perfectly. It put ISIL in a position of being over confident and not on it’s toes. Brilliant plan. And I might add that Obama does have a strategy. He is going to start teaching Muslims, especially the young, how to play golf. Once they take up golf, they will have no time for anything else. Just like Obama. Brilliant. A team of Golf course designers are now in Syria, Iran, and Iraq. already designing golf courses for the Army Corps of Engineers to start building.

they lie on August 29, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Oh, nevermind. Fundraising and a mini-vacation in the Hamptons are in store for this weekend. Maybe he’ll get around to ISO next week if Beyonce isn’t performing in the East Room or something.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM

He makes me want to puke…………

VegasRick on August 29, 2014 at 11:16 AM

We can find IS’ laptop, but not Lerner’s emails.

Maybe, just maybe, Obama has no strategy because no one around him.

they lie on August 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Yes, but he’s the one who’s smart enough to do everybody else’s job, including the ass kissing Generals have no strategy either.

That was the package all the hipsters were sold.

formwiz on August 29, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Hey, maybe we can get Steven Sotloff’s mommy to “BRILLIANTLY” beg ISIS not to use biological weapons against America. All she has to do is “recognize” the legitimacy of ISIS’ biological warfare plan, and they won’t attack us – Right?

Pork-Chop on August 29, 2014 at 11:20 AM

ISIS speaks for no religion.

jbspry on August 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Gee… you think? Let’s see if we can recap. What is in the African continent? Thousands of Ebola victims many missing. What else is there? Jihadists. What do they want? Terrorize and kill Americans.

Can they get here? Silly boy, they are here. So what if they get a dozen dedicated fighters infected with Ebola and walked them across the southern border. Then transported them to a dozen cities to bleed on, spit on, defecate on as many people and surfaces as they could. As soon as the first cases popped up in different cities, panic would set in and those cities would empty.

Every elite we know would fly to their private island or walled residence. The rest of us would be screwed.

It doesn’t have to be a pandemic. We would act like there was one. Terror is the goal.

archer52 on August 29, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Obama has morphed into the Great Muslim Gatsby de facto leader of the terrorists! His every action benefits his bros i.e. ROE, Open borders,No Keystone Pipeline, War on Jews and Christians, Obamacare war on religion and communist redistribution …….He will use his storm troopers at the IRS, DOJ, EPA, NSA, against any and all American citizens who oppose his radical and traitorous actions! He has created ISIS and will play out the clock to protect them unless America demands better!

Marco on August 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM

I prefer the “Big Jake” strategy, vis-a-vis Mecca.

“And now *you* understand. Anything goes wrong, anything at all… your fault, my fault, nobody’s fault… it won’t matter – I’m gonna drop a nuke on Mecca. No matter what else happens, no matter who gets killed I’m gonna drop a nuke on Mecca.”

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

I like that approach but if Obama said it he would be laughed out of the room. It would just be another rhetorical Red Line to be ignored. President Perry or President Cruz might be taken at their word, however.

jffree1 on August 29, 2014 at 11:55 AM

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25970

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Better yet, listen to Reagan deliver the whole speech. You’ll think for the most part he’s talking about the present time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wif9eXlMp4Q

theotherone on August 29, 2014 at 11:57 AM

When, and if, ISIS decides to use Biologic Warfare against us Yankee infidel dogs here in the West, our leader, and I use that term with a saccharine overtone, is going to have to quickly decide what form retribution will take and how many Hydrogen Bombs, and how many randomly selected islamic cities, are going to be wiped off the maps, as needed, to have the surviving peoples of the Middle East convinced that their way to survival is to hunt down and kill anyone suspected of even having ISIS sympaties.

I see no need to involve US ground forces at all. If the threat to the non-ISIS moslem majority is made severe enough, they will have to kill off ISIS as a matter of self-preservation – and they will.

The regular folks of the area just get an offer they can’t refuse.

dockywocky on August 29, 2014 at 11:59 AM

I also resent that header: “America has no strategy…”

America has plenty of strategies, but our feckless, islam-loving C-in-C ignores them in favor of his islam-loving agenda. He will allow aggressive islam to walk all over America – if he isn’t thwarted and brought to heel.

dockywocky on August 29, 2014 at 12:08 PM

So, how long before Time or Newsweek or Rolling Stone puts out an issue with the cover reading “WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS NOW”?

HikaruKitsune on August 29, 2014 at 12:08 PM

our leader, and I use that term with a saccharine overtone, is going to have to quickly decide what form retribution will take and how many Hydrogen Bombs, and how many randomly selected islamic cities, are going to be wiped off the maps, as needed, to have the surviving peoples of the Middle East convinced that their way to survival is to hunt down and kill anyone suspected of even having ISIS sympaties. dockywocky on August 29, 2014 at 11:59 AM

The sad part is, I can’t see President Saboteur doing anything in response. ANYTHING. Except perhaps a Strongly Worded Statement.

I just don’t think he cares about US–the U.S.A. and its people, particularly the white ones who live in “flyover” country. Better to him that ISIS takes out some of the “surplus population” that is jamming up his plans to turn us into a third world country.

theotherone on August 29, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Look how the country reacted by bringing in one guy who had symptoms of a contagious disease that is easily contained…

It doesn’t take much to panic sheep…

right2bright

It is so easily contained, they only had to spend $2 million dollars to do it…for one guy, lol.

xblade on August 29, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Major airports. Twelve Monkeys.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Something seems a little off about this entire story.

How does a guy with degrees in Chemistry and Physics become an ‘expert’ in in Biology? That’s not to say he couldn’t have studied up on the subject on his own, but I don’t think that could give him much credibility in extracting, isolating and weaponizing the virus.

He may have been hypothesizing and fantasizing about how to do it, but it doesn’t seem to me that he really could know every step to doing it, no more than the late Tom Clancy and Vince Flynn knew all the details of actually implementing the plots in their fictional novels.

This was either a purposeful plant, meant to scare the West, or the whole story is being misreported and hyped for click bait and ratings.

ZeusGoose on August 29, 2014 at 12:39 PM

I wouldn’t lose sleep over this.
Seeing as they now have billions of dollars that they looted from Iraq they could just buy an atomic bomb and kill NY or Boston or LA….

V7_Sport on August 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

David Cameron on TV sounding like a leader. Anyone else listening? Maybe Obama is listening..Cameron will address parliament on Monday. Sounds like he will be working this weekend.

esr1951 on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

What joy! What peace of heart! To know that your country’s government is in good hands, even though it is not your Party running things. As an American, I root for the United Kingdom Independence Party but can not vote for them. Still, I’d have David Cameron over several of our “leading lights” over here.

And the Reagan speach. My God, what have we lost?

I’m not sure a suitcase nuke has ever existed (maybe a somewhat heavy backpack nuke), but Pakistan certainly does not have one if they are possible. Miniaturization of nuclear devices is highly advanced stuff that is more science fiction than fact. It is extremely difficult to pack enough conventional energy into such small packages to initiate a nuclear reaction.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

You’re assuming an implosion device. A “gunbarrel” device is more easily triggered; you might not even need a conventional explosive.

It doesn’t have to be a pandemic. We would act like there was one. Terror is the goal.

archer52 on August 29, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Exactly. Nuke, “dirty” bomb, plague, whatever. Their tactic is to disrupt our society, and it doesn’t take much to do that. On the other hand,

I see no need to involve US ground forces at all. If the threat to the non-ISIS moslem majority is made severe enough, they will have to kill off ISIS as a matter of self-preservation – and they will.

The regular folks of the area just get an offer they can’t refuse.

dockywocky on August 29, 2014 at 11:59 AM

THIS seems like a good idea. They hold a dozen hostages, we hold millions. Kill one of ours, we don’t kill one of yours. Or a thousand. We take out a city – 1005 casualties, near enough.
NEXT ?

ReggieA on August 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

David Cameron on TV sounding like a leader. Anyone else listening? Maybe Obama is listening..Cameron will address parliament on Monday. Sounds like he will be working this weekend.

esr1951 on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

What joy! What peace of heart! To know that your country’s government is in good hands, even though it is not your Party running things. As an American, I root for the United Kingdom Independence Party but can not vote for them. Still, I’d have David Cameron over several of our “leading lights” over here.

And the Reagan speach. My God, what have we lost?

I’m not sure a suitcase nuke has ever existed (maybe a somewhat heavy backpack nuke), but Pakistan certainly does not have one if they are possible. Miniaturization of nuclear devices is highly advanced stuff that is more science fiction than fact. It is extremely difficult to pack enough conventional energy into such small packages to initiate a nuclear reaction.

NotCoach on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

You’re assuming an implosion device. A “gunbarrel” device is more easily triggered; you might not even need a conventional explosive.

It doesn’t have to be a pandemic. We would act like there was one. Terror is the goal.

archer52 on August 29, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Exactly. Nuke, “dirty” bomb, plague, whatever. Their tactic is to disrupt our society, and it doesn’t take much to do that. On the other hand,

I see no need to involve US ground forces at all. If the threat to the non-ISIS moslem majority is made severe enough, they will have to kill off ISIS as a matter of self-preservation – and they will.

The regular folks of the area just get an offer they can’t refuse.

dockywocky on August 29, 2014 at 11:59 AM

THIS seems like a good idea. They hold a dozen hostages, we hold millions. Kill one of ours, we don’t kill one of yours. Or a thousand. We take out a city – 100% casualties, near enough.
NEXT ?

ReggieA on August 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Glad they let me keep my chem warfare gas mask and a new filter still sealed in the can when I retired from the military (plus a few 5.56 mags). Now I just gotta get me one of those plastic bio-hazard suits to keep in my disaster kit and I’ll be set. Even have the canteen sippy cap to attach to my mask…

Big John on August 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM

If you pay attention to terrorism issues there’s a very common theme- lots of big scary ideas…and no technical know-how to enact them.

The kind of person attracted to religious fanaticism does not have the kind of mind suited to engineering and science applications.Look at the various bombing attempts in the short term after the Iraq invasion. they were pathetically bad. Hell look at 9/11, they had the weapons pre-made for them and they still almost failed to just fly it into stationary targets. These people are just not very bright or technically inclined.

Reading the FP article I find this:

The documents also suggest that the laptop’s owner was teaching himself about the use of biological weaponry, in preparation for a potential attack that would have shocked the world.

“Self taught” and “biological weaponry” are terms that don’t go together successfully.

Tlaloc on August 29, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Right. So its the military’s fault. Got it.

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Hey, give the guy a break. He only just heard about it in the news after he got home from the Vineyard. He hasn’t had time to formulate a plan yet…

Big John on August 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM

You’re assuming an implosion device. A “gunbarrel” device is more easily triggered; you might not even need a conventional explosive.

The type you are talking about requires highly enriched Uranium instead of plentiful Plutonium. Let me guess you think Iran will give it to them?

THIS seems like a good idea. They hold a dozen hostages, we hold millions. Kill one of ours, we don’t kill one of yours. Or a thousand. We take out a city – 100% casualties, near enough.
NEXT ?

ReggieA on August 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

No it’s a terrible and suicidal idea that plays exactly into their hands. Look terrorism is about provoking the opponent into doing something stupid. What you are proposing is genocide against the middle east due to the actions of a small minority. It’s a human rights violation and it will serve to radicalize the entire muslim world (and hopefully a good portion of the non-muslim world) against us. It’d be about the dumbest possible action. But hey it’d make you feel like a tough guy so that’s good enough, right?

Tlaloc on August 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM

The military always has plans to deal with every current and foreseeable conflict. It’s what they do. It’s part of their mission.

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Name a serious conflict since WW2 where the military’s plans have actually worked…

Yeah, exactly. The military are experts in coming up with the stupidest possible reactions to events. I for one am not troubled by a president saying “uh, thanks, but no we’ll wait for an idea not completely retarded, general.”

Tlaloc on August 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Name a serious conflict since WW2 where the military’s plans have actually worked…

Yeah, exactly. The military are experts in coming up with the stupidest possible reactions to events. I for one am not troubled by a president saying “uh, thanks, but no we’ll wait for an idea not completely retarded, general.”

Tlaloc on August 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM

I see that smearing the military has not lost it’s allure for the leftist barking moonbats.

tanked59 on August 29, 2014 at 3:18 PM