Inside the collapse of Obama’s Syria ‘strategy’

posted at 12:41 pm on August 29, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The Daily Beast’s Eli Lake and Josh Rogin published a striking report on Friday taking the reader inside the administration’s decision making process leading to an aborted push for strikes inside Syria. It is clear from the reporting in The Daily Beast that it was Barack Obama himself who was the most skeptical about pursuing strikes inside Syria.

For more than a week, administration officials had been talking tough about ISIS. Secretary of State John Kerry said that they “will be crushed.” Defense Sec. Chuck Hagel noted that the Islamic State is “beyond anything that we’ve seen,” and the United States must “cold, steely hard look” at the threat and “get ready” to address it. “This is an organization that has an apocalyptic, end-of-days strategic vision which will eventually have to be defeated,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey echoed.

Given these statements from administration officials, it came as something of a shock when the president took to the podium on Thursday and tamped down speculation that a strike in Syria against ISIS was imminent. “We don’t have a strategy yet,” he said.

“Those inside the administration advocating for going after ISIS in both Iraq and Syria were sorely disappointed – and lamented their boss’s lack of urgency in rooting out a threat that only days before was being described in near-apocalyptic terms,” Lake and Rogin reported.

Obama addressed the White House press corps Thursday afternoon just before personally chairing a meeting of his National Security Council, his top cabinet members and national security staffers. The meeting was the culmination of an intense week-long process that included series of lower level meetings and at last one Principals’ Committee that officials described as an effort to convince Obama to expand his air war against ISIS in Iraq to Syria as well.

But before the meeting even started, the president seemed to have made up his mind.

One former Pentagon official with Iraq combat experience told The Daily Beast’s reporters that Obama’s statements may lead ISIS to “act with greater impunity” now that they believe U.S. strikes in their Syrian strongholds are not immediately forthcoming.

The White House is facing a difficult position in Syria. There were some deep divisions in the administration about how to execute a strategy inside Syria that would aid the Free Syrian Army headquartered in the city of Aleppo while simultaneously punishing Islamic State forces. All the while, the strikes would have to be carefully executed so that they did not provide Bashar al-Assad’s forces with any strategic benefits.

While this is a frustrating situation, one of the administration’s own making, some in the Obama White House did advocate for taking strikes on the infrastructure in areas controlled by ISIS. This report indicates, however, that Obama overruled them and strikes in Syria will not be undertaken any time soon.


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How does something that never existed collapse???

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Community Agitators don’t strategize. They get elected to office then plan fundraisers, vacays, and golf outings. Everything else can just wait.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM

“What’s the strategy, Kenneth?”

faraway on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

How does something that never existed collapse???

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Speak a lot and carry no stick.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

What part of… “If the tide turns against Islam, I will stand with Islam” is so damned difficult for people to understand?

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

People said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp. But I built it anyway.

Flange on August 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

People said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp. But I built it anyway.

Flange on August 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Castles Made of Sand

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Bush’s strategary is better than obama’s strategy any day

ConservativePartyNow on August 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Obama finally has an issue that both parties would support and he doesn’t want to do it.

myiq2xu on August 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

A leader versus a malicious petulant dilettante, who’s proud of his idiocy.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Josh is Earnest is an oxymoron.

Blow and Dickerson have perfect names too.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Mucking forons – h/t RWM

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Castles Made of Sand

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

That’s funny, I was going to say that but switched to Monty Python instead.

Flange on August 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM

“What’s the strategy, Kenneth?”

faraway on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

It’s to imagine that America is not at war with ISIS, and then play a round of golf.

Star Bird on August 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

“Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.”

- Rudy Giuliani

faraway on August 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

How does something that never existed collapse???

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Heh, he has no you know what; he’s an eunuch.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Obama finally has an issue that both parties would support and he doesn’t want to do it.

myiq2xu on August 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Kind of shows you his commitment to not doing anything to impede the march of militant islam conquest doesn’t it?

Obama doesn’t see ISIS as a problem…

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

But before the meeting even started, the president seemed to have made up his mind.

So he can make a decision. A decision to do nothing.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Speak a lot and carry no stick.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

…or carry 3 wedges and a 9 iron when you have to go out in the weeds.

BigWyo on August 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

But before the meeting even started, the president seemed to have made up his mind.

So he can make a decision. A decision to do nothing.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The HUSSEIN is strong in that one.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM

How does something that never existed collapse???

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Heh, he has no you know what; he’s an eunuch.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Valerie Jarrett keeps it in a jar of formaldehyde and let’s him look at it when he has been particularly good…

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Well he is a narcissistic idiot I’m not shocked he would overrule them. Thanks again Harvard you have us a putz of a “president”….

sorrowen on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

This crap is starting to creep me out….it just has the feel of “All going according to plan…”

BigWyo on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

I don’t understand why he wants to preside over the next great ethnic cleansing.

ISIS is going to do it. They’re going to unleash something in Syria that’s going to kill thousands, and this guy will still be on the clock when it happens.

Amazing.

budfox on August 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

ISIS demanded an end to the airstrikes in the beheading video and it appears that’s what they are getting. It’s a big win for ISIS over Obama and now they are carrying on with their massacres. Maybe there will be an airstrike every so often on the periphery, but I don’t think ISIS is worried about it. Their mobility if fully intact.

forest on August 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

But before the meeting even started, the president seemed to have made up his mind.

So he can make a decision. A decision to do nothing.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

myiq2xu on August 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Kind of shows you his commitment to not doing anything to impede the march of militant islam conquest doesn’t it?

Obama doesn’t see ISIS as a problem…

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM

What part of… “If the tide turns against Islam, I will stand with Islam” is so damned difficult for people to understand?

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Well he is a narcissistic idiot I’m not shocked he would overrule them. Thanks again Harvard you have us a putz of a “president”….

sorrowen on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama is living proof that Harvard isn’t an elite or even mediocre academic institution.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM

It never existed before because the Iraqi Republican Guard Ba’athist Sunni Arabs, the best combat force in the immediate area, never had to choose between submitting to Persian Shia rule or fighting alongside the terrorists of ISIS.

We made them have to choose. Why are we surprised at the result?

If we really did not want this, we should have done everything in our power to make sure the best combat troops in Iraq were well treated, or we needed to kill them all when we invaded, refusing to allow them to lay down their arms and decline the opportunity to die for Saddam.

Democracy most definitely does not mean tolerance, even when you structure a fig leaf constitution to pretend it has to be.

Obama getting us out the way he did was a repeat of the error we committed when we told Saddam we didn’t care about what he did regarding his difficulties with Kuwait. Maliki took it the same way Saddam did. Since America won’t interfere, it’s Time to Get Even.

fadetogray on August 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM

FAApotusMSSCoaMF

’nuff said.

Anyone sleeping well these days?

Cody1991 on August 29, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Leading from behind

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Obama won’t do anything.

Cameron has shown that Obama is a girly-man.

Obama is probably more pissed at Cameron and the UK then he is at ISIS…..

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

This crap is starting to creep me out….it just has the feel of “All going according to plan…”

BigWyo on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Yeah, first we have the switch from traditional dark suit with conservative tie (usually red) to the brown suit. Next presser the brown suit is a little more ornate. After the addition of epaulettes, braid, and a snazzy beret; Obama suddenly is wearing one of those dictator-style uniforms.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Barack Obama; when the going gets tough, get out on the fundraising trail.

GarandFan on August 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Anyone sleeping well these days?

Cody1991 on August 29, 2014 at 1:01 PM

About the only thing keeping me safe is that the muslims are more interested in destroying New York or DC than a small town in Eastern Kentucky.

Obama certainly isn’t.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Leading from behind the first tee

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Pretty much the same thing.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Barack Obama; when the going gets tough, get out on the fundraising trail.

GarandFan on August 29, 2014 at 1:06 PM

3AM? Don’t Try to Ring.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM

The door is open and the green light is on.

crankyoldlady on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Obama won’t do anything.

Cameron has shown that Obama is a girly-man.

Obama is probably more pissed at Cameron and the UK then he is at ISIS…..

redguy on August 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Of course. Obama hates the Brits almost as much as conservatives. That whole “colonialism” of Africa thing.

Bitter Clinger on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

This crap is starting to creep me out….it just has the feel of “All going according to plan…”

BigWyo on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

^^^^^This^^^^^^

I don’t know if it is Obama’s plan, but it is someone’s!!

Deano1952 on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Maybe it’s time for pundits and others disappointed about Barky’s no strategy moment against ISIS/IDIL to watch a video of the Outer Limits One Hundred Days of the Dragon epidode.

xkaydet65 on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Well he is a narcissistic idiot I’m not shocked he would overrule them. Thanks again Harvard you have us a putz of a “president”….
sorrowen on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM
Barack HUSSEIN Obama is living proof that Harvard isn’t an elite or even mediocre academic institution.
ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Screw Harvard they gave us this dithering checked out “President” or as AP says semi retired President…

sorrowen on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Urgent - oaf to interrupt fundraising…for a newshack’s wedding.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM

We may have a much bigger problem long term (whatever that may be). The savages are here now and are waiting for what’s left of us to start fighting our own dictatorial government. At that time, they will rise up and we will be fighting for our very lives on two fronts – inside the borders of our own country. Creepy. I continue to have faith that our military will see this and come to our side in the great fight that looms ahead of us.

HomeoftheBrave on August 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM

IDIL=ISIL. Autocorrect…humbug

xkaydet65 on August 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

20 ‘reporters’ officially now work in the obama admin. The rest, most all reporters dwell in his azz.

Get out, you fools. It ain’t Beluga caviar. Otherwise, suffocate from it.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM

OT – ugly and insignificant news ‘alert’.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

I beginning to wonder if on September 11th, 2014 that IS doesn’t give a new twist to the meaning of “Flash Mob” in the US??

Deano1952 on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Yepper BC

cmsinaz on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

“Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.”

- Rudy Giuliani

faraway on August 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Tell me again why we did not want to elect Rudy. He sure looks pretty good in retrospect. It seems to me that he had plans, stuck to them, defended them and for the most part, they worked. He also understood the threat of radical Islam and Vladimir Putin.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Inside the collapse of Obama’s Syria ‘strategy’
===============================================

The collaspe, is in a
downward spiral. into Hopeys Abyss!!

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Seriously people, it’s not like he didn’t tell us years ago what he would do in a situation like this:

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Right out of his book Audacity of Hope.

Johnnyreb on August 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

The White House is facing a difficult position in Syria. There were some deep divisions in the administration about how to execute a strategy inside Syria that would aid the Free Syrian Army headquartered in the city of Aleppo while simultaneously punishing Islamic State forces. All the while, the strikes would have to be carefully executed so that they did not provide Bashar al-Assad’s forces with any strategic benefits.

FSA = Unicorns

Why can’t we just bomb ISIS for the sake of bombing ISIS irrespective of who it helps. The idea that the FSA can beat off ISIS, take on Assad, and bring about a secular democracy is fantasy talk. Giving weapons to them is basically like giving weapons toe Dutch right before Hitler’s invasion. Also how secular do you really think the FSA is? I would be willing to bet Assad is more secular…the Syrian Christians seem to think so and considering they are the ones living there they should know.

Obama’s strategy is dumb, but it appears some are trying to out do him in incompetence.

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Iraq crisis
38m
Department of Homeland Security and FBI unaware of any ‘specific, credible threat’ to US homeland from Islamic State – statement
End of alert
==============

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 4s

DHS/FBI unaware of any specific, credible threat to the US homeland from ISIL – so terror threat level not being raised in US.

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The Acid Test is Nov. Midterms.
Is Amerikka really THIS STUPID or can we pull it back?

Tard on August 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I don’t know if it is Obama’s plan, but it is someone’s!!

Deano1952 on August 29, 2014 at 1:09 PM

George Soros.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Defense Sec. Chuck Hagel noted that the Islamic State is “beyond anything that we’ve seen,”

It’s all the same Jihad.

No Drama Obama strikes again.

theotherone on August 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

No problem exists where none is perceived.

vnvet on August 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Tell me again why we did not want to elect Rudy.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Rudy ran a lousy campaign. He pretty much took himself out of the running.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Air power without boots on the ground is limited in its impact, permanence and ability to find a pin the enemy or hold any ground. The only boots around Syria that can even be condsidered using is the FSA; so either you work with them or you play whack a mole.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Rudy ran a lousy campaign. He pretty much took himself out of the running.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Yep, he and Fred Thompson defeated themselves by not campaigning AT ALL early.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

The Acid Test is Nov. Midterms.
Is Amerikka really THIS STUPID or can we pull it back?

Tard on August 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

It’s this stupid.

forest on August 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

ISIS Sh*t Storm is needed:

Ken Dilanian @KenDilanianAP · Aug 27

“Air power needs to be applied like a thunderstorm,

not a drizzle,” Lt. Gen. Deptula said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/top-general-us-needs-more-info-islamic-state
===============

Possible airstrikes in Syria raise more questions

By KEN DILANIAN AND JULIE PACE
— Aug. 26, 2014 5:56 PM EDT
***************************

“Air power needs to be applied like a thunderstorm, not a drizzle,” Deptula said, entailing “24-7 overwatch with force application on every move of ISIL personnel.”

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/top-general-us-needs-more-info-islamic-state

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Yep, he and Fred Thompson defeated themselves by not campaigning AT ALL early.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Fred’s was about as pathetic as you can get. Besides having no energy, all of his speeches included a bunch of coughing up cigar tobacco or some such distraction. You think an actor would have a better idea of optics!

Deano1952 on August 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Tell me again why we did not want to elect Rudy.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM

He thought he could just wait until Florida to start taking the race seriously. He ended up in a distant 3rd.

GOPRanknFile on August 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Syria ‘strategy’
=====================

Me thinks, DesertShield/DesertStorm Air Power would be what
the War Doctor would order!

Or not!!

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

MeanWhile,..speaking of Strategy:
=================================

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

Pres Obama en route to fundraisers in NY and RI. Using USAF C32 (757 sted 747) due to shorter runways. Will return to DC tonight.

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:26 PM

The sooner the west gets serious about the threat and wages total war against it the fewer lives will be lost.

crankyoldlady on August 29, 2014 at 1:27 PM

How does something that never existed collapse???

oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

One and done. Close the thread.

hawkdriver on August 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Air power without boots on the ground is limited in its impact, permanence and ability to find a pin the enemy or hold any ground. The only boots around Syria that can even be condsidered using is the FSA; so either you work with them or you play whack a mole.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

(1) You do realize that FSA is working with AQ and other Jihadist groups.

(2) They are infiltrated by ISIS.

(3) They are not “moderate” Muslims and are a Sunni group.

Why don’t you read these stories and tell me again why we must arm them, and why they are “better” than simply helping Assad?

Story 1: Free Syrian Army seizes Golan Heights crossing with AQ

Story 2: FSA was the first group that kidnapped Foley

I can add numerous others if you wish. The FSA is NOT an option because they are a Sunni militant group passing themselves off as “moderate” to get money and weapons from Dumb Uncle Sam. Moderate Sunni militant groups do not exist…

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM

This is akin to one coach at halftime of the Super Bowl, in which his team is losing, saying that he has no strategy for winning, yet, and that there is no way that his team can win by attacking the other team’s defense. And, he needs to get the game over, so that he can begin his offseason golfing.

Techster64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:40 PM

It’s this stupid.

forest on August 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

It proved it when Hussein was re-elected.

ConstantineXI on August 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Tell me again why we did not want to elect Rudy.

KW64 on August 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM
He thought he could just wait until Florida to start taking the race seriously. He ended up in a distant 3rd.

GOPRanknFile on August 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

as is usually the case, the political analysis from posters on this site is abysmal.

I was actually on Rudy’s campaign- and he raised the most amount of money and had revolutionary campaign techniques utilizing high technology-

the REALITY is that Iowa would not support a pro-choice candidate and McCain took the “defense hawk” and non-conservative vote from Rudy in New Hampshire.

it was the stupidity of the GOP primary voters in the first three contests (SC included) that doomed Giuliani, not that he did not work hard enough!

AirForceCane on August 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM

BTW if you want a rundown of stories on the FSA and their “moderate” views toward infidels just click here…

They are not an option in dealing with ISIS. Arming the Kurds is doable, same with the Christians, encouraging Israel to seize the rest of Golan, and even helping the Assad’s Alawites is better than arming the FSA. Also the CIA has been helping the FSA for sometime now and a lot of the material we gave them ended up in ISIS’s hands.

Lesson: You just hand out weapons to random Muslim groups just because they claim to be fighting for freedom…

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 1:52 PM

odumbo’s strategies only include golf, the rest is jarret and pure accident.

Diluculo on August 29, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The strategy is to harm the United States while maintining plausible deniability.

In this situation, the strategy is accomplished by dithering while ISIS gains strength. They can’t overtly help ISIS, that would be too obvious. But they can dither and delay, and drop some bombs to show they are “doing something”.

All policies and actions by this administration fit this strategy. Seen in this light, everything they do makes sense.

It’s a delicate balance, being president and saboteur at the same time. You can’t push it too far or too many people will catch on to what’s really happening.

ZenDraken on August 29, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Obama’s strategy is dumb, but it appears some are trying to out do him in incompetence.

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Pay attention William.

This crap is starting to creep me out….it just has the feel of “All going according to plan…”

BigWyo on August 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

And us conservatives keep wondering why we keep getting our butts kicked. It’s not Obama that’s incompetent. It’s his ideology. Until conservatives/libertarians/Tea Party types start shouting that from the rooftops, we won’t take back the country.

UnstChem on August 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Obama is for a muslim caliphate…maybe this ISIS can be controlled by a bit Muslim Brotherhood community action.

albill on August 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM

https://twitter.com/CENTCOMCGPAO

Maj. Brian Fickel @CENTCOMCGPAO · 18m

Latest strikes destroyed 4 ISIL armed vehicles, severely damaged another armed vehicle, and destroyed 3 support vehicles. 110 total strikes

canopfor on August 29, 2014 at 1:58 PM

UnstChem on August 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

So you want the US to arm the FSA? They will and have killed Syrian Christians just like ISIS is doing…


Here I will give you the link again so you can learn about them…

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM

some in the Obama White House did advocate for taking strikes on the infrastructure in areas controlled by ISIS

that supposed to be making strikes or taking part in strikes?
1 is us doing it alone and other is us doing it with help so its pretty important.

dmacleo on August 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

I wouldn’t get too excited about Obama developing a strategy anytime soon. It took him a month just to give the OK for an attempted rescue mission of American hostages in Syria; a delay that literally cost James Foley his head. A time table for making a decision for attacking ISIS in Syria probably isn’t even on his calendar.

Dan_NV on August 29, 2014 at 2:18 PM

as is usually the case, the political analysis from posters on this site is abysmal.

I was actually on Rudy’s campaign- and he raised the most amount of money and had revolutionary campaign techniques utilizing high technology-

the REALITY is that Iowa would not support a pro-choice candidate and McCain took the “defense hawk” and non-conservative vote from Rudy in New Hampshire.

it was the stupidity of the GOP primary voters in the first three contests (SC included) that doomed Giuliani, not that he did not work hard enough!

AirForceCane on August 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Interesting that you think you know more than the candidate and his campaign staffers themselves:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/giulianis-flawed-florida-strategy/

And, of course, I never said that he didn’t work hard enough as you insinuate. He just put all of his eggs one basket.

GOPRanknFile on August 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM

So you want the US to arm the FSA? They will and have killed Syrian Christians just like ISIS is doing…

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I think there’s a disconnect in your train of thought. You call Obama incompetent and I say you’re wrong. What does that have to do with whether or not I want him to arm the Free Syrian Army?

For the record, not for one second have I thought that any middle-eastern group Obama has hinted at supporting is a group worth helping. In fact, I’ve always believed the opposite.

The moment the White House started talking about supporting the Free Syrian Army was the moment I decided Assad should stay in power for now. As it turns out, my foreign policy is better than Obama’s.

There only protest we should have supported – Azadi Square in Tehran. Iran as a whole is a very modern country. The youth and young adults are more pro-western than any other Muslim country.

UnstChem on August 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Found this on Drudge just now. I expect anything happening will slam the door shut on amnesty and mobilize all patriots.

HomeoftheBrave on August 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Andrew McCarthy is one of the few that’s been telling the truth about the threat of radical Islam for years.

UnstChem on August 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM

What part of… “If the tide turns against Islam, I will stand with Islam” is so damned difficult for people to understand? oscarwilde on August 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM

“The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
~

The antecedent to “them” near the end is “Arab and Pakisitani Americans,” 98% of which are Muslims. So although you’ll see leftist web sites claim he never said this, he certainly did. Well, Bill Ayres wrote it but…

Also, note that he has to bash America twice here. He mentions the “dark underbelly” of immigration, meaning, I guess, that we let millions upon millions of foreigners settle here, I dunno, and that the FEMA camps are really for “immigrants,” I guess.

Akzed on August 29, 2014 at 3:03 PM

I was actually on Rudy’s campaign-

Oh, nice job.

it was the stupidity of the GOP primary voters in the first three contests (SC included) that doomed Giuliani, not that he did not work hard enough! AirForceCane on August 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Yeah only Republicans with an extra Y chromosome would vote against a pro-abortion, pro-sodomy lobby candidate. What were they thinking?

It couldn’t have been Rudy’s fault or, more importantly, anyone who worked on his campaign. It was those neanderthal pro-lifers, and bigots freaked out by gay pride parades, who are really to blame for all the world’s ills.

Akzed on August 29, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Looks like Obama’s Syrian strategy let him down. Why is Obama’s Syrian strategy so racist and hatin on a black man.

BTW, looks like Obama’s ISIS strategy is going to get one of our border cities attacked. Heck of a job Bammy, heck of a job.

jukin3 on August 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Obama does have a strategy. A video caused ISIS to transform from a JV team to an all star team.

Fist bump!

they lie on August 29, 2014 at 3:49 PM

According to Scarborough the Idiot O’s old strategy, whatever it was, has been replaced by the devious new strategy of saying he has no strategy.

Yeah, that’ll work. Right?

farsighted on August 29, 2014 at 3:54 PM

UnstChem on August 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM

The “incompetence” is anyone who is pushing for arming the FSA. A lot of conservatives on Fox News are pushing this as a solution, mostly out of ignorance. Sorry for misunderstanding your response to my response to someone else who was pushing for arming the FSA.

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 7:01 PM