Poroshenko declares new Russian “invasion” as rebels open new front

posted at 8:41 am on August 28, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

So much for talks. Yesterday, the attempt to get the Ukraine crisis settled between the two leaders at the forefront supposedly ended on “a positive note,” despite a failure to get an agreement. Vladimir Putin rejected any hint that Russia had to participate in a cease-fire, but said his role was to build trust:

On the agenda were a variety of issues causing tensions between Ukraine and Russia, including the Kremlin’s economic future (which is under pressure from sanctions) and war-torn Donbass. President Poroshenko offered his proposed peace plan, pushing a mainly humanitarian cause during the meeting. Leaders from Kazakhstan agreed that resolving the war and human suffering in Eastern Ukraine was imperative. 

President Putin spoke with press following the two-hour meeting. He told Russia Today the talks were “positive,” but did not offer details about the future of Poroshenko’s proposed peace plan.

“We, Russia, cannot talk about any ceasefire conditions whatsoever, or possible agreements between Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk,” said Putin, “We can only facilitate the creation of an environment of trust in the course of this possible and much needed, in my opinion, negotiation process. This is what we talked about.”

So much for trust, too. This morning, Poroshenko has canceled a state visit to Turkey as he accused Putin of launching another “invasion” in eastern Ukraine:

Ukrainian President Poroshenko claimed Russian forces had invaded Ukraine Thursday, raising fears the crisis in the region was escalating. “I made the decision to cancel a working visit to the Republic of Turkey … as an invasion of Russian forces has taken place,” he said in a statement on the presidential website on Thursday, according to Reuters. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) was holding an emergency meeting about the situation in Vienna.

A pro-Moscow separatist leader earlier said Russian soldiers were fighting alongside rebels inside Ukraine – hours after the United States accused Russia of orchestrating a new military campaign in the country. “Among us are fighting serving soldiers, who would rather take their vacation not on a beach but with us, among brothers, who are fighting for their freedom,” east Ukraine rebel leader Alexander Zakharchenko said in an interview posted on the Internet site of a Russian television station. Up to 4,000 Russian volunteers are also fighting alongside the rebels, Zakharchenko claimed. A Ukrainian military source told Reuters that Russian-backed separatists had seized the strategic high point of Savur-Mohyla.

Ukraine accuses Russia of having sent armored forces over the border in support of rebels on both fronts:

Pro-Moscow rebel forces in eastern Ukraine, backed by Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers, battled government forces on two fronts Thursday, a Ukrainian military official said.

The fighting was taking place southeast of Donetsk, and along the nation’s southern coast in the town of Novoazovsk, about 12 miles (20 km) from the Russian border, according to Mykhailo Lysenko, the deputy commander of the Ukrainian Donbas battalion.

“This is a full-scale invasion,” Lysenko said, referring to the fighting in the south.

Rebels  are now taking aim at the key port of Mariupol, perhaps aided by the strength afforded them from Russia:

His announcement came as pro-Russian rebels captured the seaside town of Novoazovsk and threatened to take the strategic port city of Mariupol.

The rebel successes constitute the opening of a new front in the conflict.

Mr Poroshenko said he was calling a meeting of the Ukrainian security council.

He added that Ukraine would initiate an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to discuss the crisis.

Good luck with that. Russia holds a veto on the UN Security Council, so no action will be forthcoming, and Poroshenko knows it. He’s hoping to embarrass Putin by forcing him to exercise the veto all by himself, a strategy that might work … if Putin was capable of embarrassment. The only other permanent UNSC nation that might rescue him would be China, and Putin’s aggression to Moscow’s west might have them wondering what his plans for Russia’s borders with former Soviet republics closer to China might be. But even if China abstained or even voted against Putin, there’s little chance that the Russian strongman will let up. He’s been slow-rolling this seizure of Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine ever since the political unrest this winter deposed his puppet in Kyiv.

Bloomberg says, “No one knows what Russia really wants,” and scoffs at the idea that this is a “stealth invasion.” There’s nothing much stealthy about it any longer.


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Your move, Obama.

esr1951 on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Your move, Obama.

esr1951 on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I’m thinking that will be to dither!! Or golf.

Deano1952 on August 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM


esr1951 on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I expect he’ll move from the pitching wedge to the 56-degree sand wedge on this….

HomeoftheBrave on August 28, 2014 at 8:49 AM

He’s off fundraising on Friday.

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Vladimir Putin rejected any hint that Russia had to participate in a cease-fire, but said his role was to build trust:

The first step towards solving your addiction problem invasion is admitting you have an addiction invasion.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM

I’m thinking that will be to dither!! Or golf.

Deano1952 on August 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Nah, you’re not giving him enough credit. There will definitely be some serious hand-wringing involved. Seriously, he might clutch his pearl necklace too…

Rufus on August 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Nah, you’re not giving him enough credit. There will definitely be some serious hand-wringing involved. Seriously, he might clutch his pearl necklace too…

Rufus on August 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Did Reggie Love give him that pearl necklace?

Ward Cleaver on August 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM

So much for talks. Yesterday, the attempt to get the Ukraine crisis settled between the two leaders at the forefront supposedly ended on “a positive note,” despite a failure to get an agreement.

Yeah sure. Putin to Poroshenko- I’m positively going to run over your army.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM

He’s hopeless, clueless, and incoherent.

“In Ukraine, we have made progress on delivering on what we said we would do, he said during Friday’s briefing. Adding that he had spoken earlier Friday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he went on: “We can’t control how Mr. Putin thinks, but we can say to Mr. Putin, if you continue on the path of arming separatists… then you’re gonna face consequences that will hurt your country.”

Still, the president cautioned, “short of going to war, there are going to be some constraints in terms of what we can do if President Putin and Russia are ignoring what should be their long-term interests.”

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

He’s off fundraising on Friday.

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Wow! ISO (the Islamic States of Obama) are beheading “folks” and the Russians are getting the gang back together. Ferguson is still smoldering (literally and figuratively). The economy still sucks with no discernable plan for fixing it other than to blame Congress.

Why wouldn’t our dear rat-eared leader be off for another round of parties where stupid rich people pay $30K a plate to hear the same lies the rest of us “folks” get for free every single day.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Vladimir Putin rejected any hint that Russia had to participate in a cease-fire, but said his role was to build trust:

Oh I trust Putin. The same way I trust a scorpion.

rbj on August 28, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Oh I trust Putin. The same way I trust a scorpion.

rbj on August 28, 2014 at 9:08 AM

I’m pretty sure he isn’t out fundraising. But more importantly, with Putin you know what you’re getting.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Well what did you think Putin was going to do after having a American-lead fascist takeover in c country sitting on his border, with tads of Russian citizens living in the reach of these neo-Nazis?

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I’m guessing the Obama admin response will be another hashtag campaign. Remember Jen Psaki at state and her promise of hashtag from a few months ago? Putin will do what he wants because Obama is impotent and refuses to lead.

changer1701 on August 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

At first I thought that was Gen. Patton.

Akzed on August 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Sudetenland Boogaloo ver 2.0
It’s a small price to pay for peace in our time.

If only there was a similarly simple solution to the middle east need for a comprehensive plan for peace.

Joseph OHenry on August 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Putin will do what he wants because Obama is impotent and refuses to lead.

changer1701 on August 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Or as the Paulbots refer to it, refusing to be the global policeman.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Ukraine accuses Russia of having sent armored forces over the border in support of rebels on both fronts:

Well. I guess the Russian soldiers borrowed some company vehicles while they were getting away on their vacations?

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Putin and the word “trust” in the same sentence?

Krupnikas on August 28, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Obama will not stop an invasion of his own country at the southern border. Do you think he really cares about Ukraine? All Putin will get from Obama is talk.

Aplombed on August 28, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Well what did you think Putin was going to do after having a American-lead fascist takeover in c country sitting on his border, with tads of Russian citizens living in the reach of these neo-Nazis? Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I heard that “Ukraine” means edge. True? That’s why people often interpreted it as “The Ukraine,” as if this was part of the name.

If so, edge of what?

Akzed on August 28, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Or as the Paulbots refer to it, refusing to be the global policeman. Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Oh crap, I can’t have an opinion without being a Paulbot?! Drat! I hate how propaganda works!

Akzed on August 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Your move, Obama.

esr1951 on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

The horsey moves like an “L”, right? Oh, it can jump over other pieces too? Didn’t know that.

/wait ’til they tell you about castling and en passant

LashRambo on August 28, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Fundraising and ruining holidays.But he cares.
http://pagesix.com/2014/08/28/obamas-holiday-to-cause-havoc-in-skies/

docflash on August 28, 2014 at 9:33 AM

The horsey moves like an “L”, right? Oh, it can jump over other pieces too? Didn’t know that.

/wait ’til they tell you about castling and en passant

LashRambo on August 28, 2014 at 9:33 AM

All undone when he gleefully yells “king me”

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Who looks like “the bored kid in the back of the classroom” now?

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 9:37 AM

I’m pretty sure he isn’t out fundraising. But more importantly, with Putin you know what you’re getting.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Exactly a murdering thug who blows human beings out of the sky.
Special place in hell for folks like him.

weedisgood on August 28, 2014 at 9:41 AM

“Tell Vlad, after the election he can invade whoever he wants.”

Akzed on August 28, 2014 at 9:41 AM

“Bored Kid in Back of Classroom” Invades Europe for the Second Time in Six Months”.

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Putin = bored kid in back of classroom

ISIS = JV team

aquaviva on August 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM

With our military in shreads,we can’t afford to fight a war,La Raza and the global warmers taking over the government,thousands of Jihads owning the corner stores and gas stations, I just hope our nukes still work.

docflash on August 28, 2014 at 9:45 AM

I knew Putin would do this after the shootdown of the Malaysian airplane and use the opportunity to consolidate Russian control of eastern Ukraine. Now it is is the guise of building trust. He is evil. Communists are evil.

rlwo2008 on August 28, 2014 at 9:47 AM

This invasion has been in the works for years. Austin Bay’s latest column gives a little historical perspective to this invasion.

http://www.creators.com/conservative/austin-bay.html

There is very little that is new here folks.

Bay does not discuss the Soviet genocide in the Ukraine, which made a population vacuum for Russian speaking colonists.

burt on August 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

All undone when he gleefully yells “king me”

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2014 at 9:36 AM

That made for a good laugh. :)

LashRambo on August 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

I fear that decisions will not be made until it is too late. At that point the Media will proclaim that anyone critcizing the lack of response by the west is a warmonger and demand to know what they would do (even though by then it is too late to have any good options).

KW64 on August 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Well. I guess the Russian soldiers borrowed some company vehicles while they were getting away on their vacations?

I suspect that if I borrowed a armored fighting vehicle with ammuntion and fuel when I go on leave I would not be in for a medal on my return. But it certainly would show remarkable initiative!

KW64 on August 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM

How many times must Poroshenko cry INVASION, YO, THIS TIME IT’S REALLY REALLY REAL AND SERIOUS AND STUFF before the media and everyone else stops taking the confectioner chocolatier seriously?

The man needs anti-depressents or anti-anxiety drugs or something. What he and what Ukraine itself does NOT need is for anyone to affirm him in is paranoia. This man doesn’t just climb beneath his desk to softly weep. No. He orders air-strikes on schools and hospitals where Ukrainians once went to heal or to learn.

casuist on August 28, 2014 at 10:18 AM

I fear that decisions will not be made until it is too late. At that point the Media will proclaim that anyone critcizing the lack of response by the west is a warmonger and demand to know what they would do (even though by then it is too late to have any good options).

KW64 on August 28, 2014 at 10:09 AM

It requires firm leadership, resolve, vision. Obama is weak. Instead of having a vision and doing what he needs to do to make it work, he does small things around the edges, because otherwise as you say he’s afraid he’d be criticized as a warmonger. That would hurt his image as a good guy. Always about Obama and his image.

LashRambo on August 28, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Obama, “Valerie, we have to step up the plans to destroy the US internally. I think the ball is rolling along good in destroying the United State’s influence and power externally.”

albill on August 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Time to send arms and support to the Ukrainians.

While the bozo in the WH won’t do much, there are plenty of people in Congress and elsewhere willing to help.

Norwegian on August 28, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Do I hear silent cheering from the flexibility White House?

Don L on August 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Maybe we could do a “lend lease” program to the Ukraine…or a Berlin type airlift, or maybe start a skirmish on Russia’s other borders, or…we could go golfing….that’s it!

Don L on August 28, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Love the leftists: “Why won’t Ukraine give in to the demands of the KGB? The Ukrainians are fascists! That’s evil! Why can’t they be good communists like the KGB? Waaaaa!”

Seriously, even if there is hints of fascism somewhere in Ukraine, and I have no knowledge one way or the other on that; it pales in comparison to Putin in the fascism department. Does anyone think any major business decision happens in Russia without his approval? Thus, government and business, running together: the literal definition of fascism.

But what about the “Neo-Nazis?” you cry? 1) there aren’t many of them 2) All Nazism was is anti-Semitism attached to fascism…. and since when has anti-semitism been a problem for leftists? They take pride in it!

Besides, it’s not like Putin is a friend of the JOOOOOS either.

So we are left with a fascist dictator in Putin invading another country based on his “concern” for the GermanRussian speaking people. Sudenten, part two.

And of course, the Leftists and their enablers are all cheering Putin on: why not? Fascist dictator invading another country is what they live for!

Vanceone on August 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM

I keep hearing all about these supposed Ukrainian “fascists” committing crimes against humanity against those poor, defenseless Russian separatists in the east, but so far none of the Putin ass-lickers on HA have been able to provide any proof of such occurrences. Weird.

Funny how the left now kowtows to Putin. They sure were brave when his goons were cracking gay skulls in the streets and all the U.S. homosexuals and their allies stopped buying Stoly.

TarasBulbous on August 28, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Just like Good Old Days of Great Patriotic War.

Your move, Obama.

esr1951 on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

He’ll give amnesty to everybody who speaks Spanish.

So we are left with a fascist dictator in Putin invading another country based on his “concern” for the GermanRussian speaking people. Sudenten, part two.

Vanceone on August 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Between Poland and Barbarossa, the term was CommuNazi.

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Love the leftists: “Why won’t Ukraine give in to the demands of the KGB? The Ukrainians are fascists! That’s evil! Why can’t they be good communists like the KGB? Waaaaa!”

Seriously, even if there is hints of fascism somewhere in Ukraine, and I have no knowledge one way or the other on that; it pales in comparison to Putin in the fascism department. Does anyone think any major business decision happens in Russia without his approval? Thus, government and business, running together: the literal definition of fascism.

But what about the “Neo-Nazis?” you cry? 1) there aren’t many of them 2) All Nazism was is anti-Semitism attached to fascism…. and since when has anti-semitism been a problem for leftists? They take pride in it!

Besides, it’s not like Putin is a friend of the JOOOOOS either.

So we are left with a fascist dictator in Putin invading another country based on his “concern” for the GermanRussian speaking people. Sudenten, part two.

And of course, the Leftists and their enablers are all cheering Putin on: why not? Fascist dictator invading another country is what they live for!

Vanceone on August 28, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Unfortunately, a lot of this howling about the Ukrainians are fascists that deserve to be exterminated by the Russians isn’t coming from the left. It’s coming heavily from the right.

Some on the right seem to think Obama is planning some kind of war with Russia with Ukraine as an excuse, and I think others just want to see him embarrassed. The other group supporting Putin are the liber(al)tarians, whose foreign policy is unfortunately indistinguishable from that of the left.

Doomberg on August 28, 2014 at 11:26 AM

How about in response to this they give obama another Nobel peace prize?

paul1149 on August 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Obama tells Russian PM ” This Is My Last Election. After Election I Have More Flexibilty” 3/26/2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM

What amazes me about obama is how much energy he uses to “outflank the constitution”, fundraising and luxury living. Real responsibilities he doesn’t care so much.

garydt on August 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM

We need to talk about REAL issues here. Like that nifty little 8 iron approach to six feet His Grace made on #7…

USNCVN on August 28, 2014 at 12:43 PM

This morning, Poroshenko has canceled a state visit to Turkey as he accused Putin of launching another “invasion” in eastern Ukraine

I think I have figured it out. Every time Obama goes golfing, Poroshenko announces another Russian invasion of Ukraine. I know one thing for sure, the frequency is about the same.

VorDaj on August 28, 2014 at 1:57 PM


I think I have figured it out. Every time Obama goes golfing, Poroshenko announces another Russian invasion of Ukraine. I know one thing for sure, the frequency is about the same.

I know, right? Someone painted silhouettes of Russian soldiers on poor befuddled PM Poroshenko’s binoculars.

Seriously, though, Ukraine’s U.S. taxpayer funded IMF bailout is contingent on Ukraine’s government being in control of its own landmass, which it seriously isn’t. All Putin needs to do is run out the clock. There is no, nor will there be, an “invasion,” not when treading water returns the same value at far less cost.

casuist on August 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

Russian UN Amb Vitaly Churkin fires back at US calling for it to stop interfering in internal affairs of sovereign states including Ukraine.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 28s

Power tells UNSC that “most important question” is “what should we do to make Russia listen” to demands that it end intervention in Ukraine.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 2m

“Russia has to stop lying and has to stop fueling this conflict,” says @AmbassadorPower of Russian intervention in Ukraine.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 17s

At emergency session of UN Security Council, US @AmbassadorPower says Russia is not listening” to UN pleas to end intervention in Ukraine.

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 2h

Full @NATO release on sat imagery http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_112103.htm

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_112103.htm
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Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 2h

RT @NATO: New satellite images shows #Russia’s combat troops in #Ukraine http://goo.gl/cXkyXI #NATO

https://twitter.com/NATO/status/505029265994567680/photo/1

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:21 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573557/Flashback-Senator-Obama-pushed-destruction-15-000-TONS-ammunition-400-000-small-arms-1-000-anti-aircraft-missiles-Ukraine.html

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 1:19 PM

That’s just so inconvenient for Barry. I expect the White House has been trying to clean the internets of those pictures but has not been able to get it done.

slickwillie2001 on August 28, 2014 at 4:12 PM