Open thread: Semi-retired president to address something he saw on the news today about Ukraine at 4 p.m. ET; Update: “Ongoing incursion”; Update: No strategy yet on ISIS

posted at 4:01 pm on August 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Concern will be expressed, disappointment will be felt, and a grim air of deja vu will pervade the scene. You know how this goes. How many of these has he done since Putin started playing his “those aren’t our guys, those are ‘separatists’” game earlier this year? If there are any Russian billionaires left to sanction, I take it by the end of the week a-sanctioned they will be.

Samantha Power minced no words today at the UN in describing what Russia’s up to. Well, almost no words: The word “invasion” has suddenly vanished from her vocabulary, as it has for every other major U.S. diplomat. The impulse there, I suppose, is that the White House feels obliged to poke the bear a little as a matter of American prestige but they’re terrified of how far the new czar might go in Ukraine if he gets poked too hard. “Incursion” and “escalation” are less ominous, and less permanent, than ‘invasion.” Putin has bet so much of his own domestic prestige now on dominating Ukraine that he may have decided that he simply can’t afford to be seen as having lost there. If that means an invasion by inches until there are tens of thousands of Russia troops in the field and the country’s east is secure, then that’s what it means.

No one knows yet which other topics are on O’s agenda. Could be he’ll have an update on ISIS too. There’s news breaking as I write this that James Foley and three other hostages were waterboarded by ISIS while in captivity. I’m expecting some very smart commentary from some very important thinkfluencers on how people known for literally crucifying some of their prisoners never would have done that if the U.S. hadn’t done it to Khaled Sheikh Mohammed first. Or maybe the smart take will be that using waterboarding to try to obtain intelligence from a guy who masterminded flying planes into the Twin Towers is morally indistinguishable from doing it to an infidel journalist for funsies. We’ll see. Hope O takes questions so he can be asked about it.

Update: A smart point, via Noah:

Update: Don’t poke the bear. He might poke back harder.

Update: Everyone knew this already but I didn’t expect quite so much candor:

Update: He’s hitting some long home runs today.


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The dude is clinically certifiable and should be interned. He is truly sick.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM

All of a sudden, the American people need to hear the strategy and weigh in……LOL.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM

He calls them ISIL because he doesn’t recognize the British/French modern lands of the ME. He makes idiots Einsteinian.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM

What a hapless weakling. ISIL… ISIS, ISIL.. he’s from the same tribe. Like the animals in Ferguson, MO.

Uh, uh, uh….

Cobble together a coalition..

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM

This is painful….to watch.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Heh, by then thousands will be dead, and all on you, fool of the world.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Its going to take money

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

COBBLE TOGETHER A COALITION?

Really? He said that?

Also, now we’re back to ISIL. His tribe.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Obama on dead Ukranians, Yazidis, and Christians: We’re gonna focus on protecting the American people”

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I may need Congress for some money……

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:29 PM

He sounds JV

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:29 PM

This is painful….to watch.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Talking about the Farakkan suit prompted me to turn on the TV. Big mistake. My ears will need until Monday to recover, my eyes too.

Such an oaf there never was, and never will be ever again.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:29 PM

This is painful….to watch.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

The color of his suit is projecting America as yellow bellied cowards.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:29 PM

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 4:11 PM

A Mao jacket?

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 4:11 PM

ConstantineXI: Lol,getting near that colour shade!!

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Is it just me or is he rambling around and mouthing completely unintelligible gibberish? Sacred duty to protect U.S. citizens and embassies? WTF, you mean like Ben Ghazi? If some enemy gets enough gonads to attack us right now we’re toast.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

He is telling the beheaders that he is backing off.

djl130 on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

so many words “as soon as ISIS conquered Mosul we picked up the phone and called”…

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

“It is not just part of my responsibility but is my sacred duty as commander and chief toprotect the American people.”

Try doing that closer to home and close the boarder.

Anyone counting the I, me, and mys?

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Stable, democratic Iraq needs a lot of help.

Gee…..

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

The terrorists feel “invalid”. “unsuccesful”

What a frikken joke this idiot is.

Somebody get the Vaudeville Hook – Srsly

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Mucking foron, 200 executed in the desert today.

God damn you, fool!

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Putin is laughing his *ss off

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Is it just me or is he rambling around and mouthing completely unintelligible gibberish? Sacred duty to protect U.S. citizens and embassies? WTF, you mean like Ben Ghazi? If some enemy gets enough gonads to attack us right now we’re toast.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

oldnuke: Yup,..drones on, with no threat against USSR, or, ISIS,
or threats to whack him!:)

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM

“keep a lid on things, temporarily”

Really? Compromise? Really?

POTUS pooswah.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Now he just babbles.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

“A, a, a group like ISIS…bla, bla, bla….rooted out, OK”

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Never in history, and God willing never again have we had such an ineffectual, infantile, pathetic loser as our president. What a sad state of affairs.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Iraqis have to compromise

Our Congress has to just shut up and do what obama says because he won

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Beyond the pale.

Sounds racist.

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

This is painful….to watch.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM

It really is. Anyone listening knows he’s flailing. He projects weakness and indecisiveness.

butch on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Never in history, and God willing never again have we had such an ineffectual, infantile, pathetic loser as our president. What a sad state of affairs.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Stupid people, in the majority, voted freely for this turkey. This is punishment for that.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

“this should be a wake up call to Sunnis and Shia, that ISIS is beyond the pale”

- Captain Obvious

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Anyone counting the I, me, and mys?

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

It’s easier to count the words in between.

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Doesn’t this constitutional law scholar know that an “ongoing incursion” is really an invasion? No. Also, he has to keep our border open as long as possible so as many of his muslim terrorist buddies can get into this country as possible. Because, the best thing that can happen to him is to lose the senate. If he keeps it, with dirty hairy in charge, this country is due for some real turmoil over the next two years..

Old Country Boy on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Now he just babbles.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Now?

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

“We are not taking Military action”

But, we are handing out sweets in Gaza. And in Russia.

No mention of the ISIL/ISIS – he will protect his brothers. At all costs.

I think we’re under attack from within.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

He calls them ISIL because he doesn’t recognize the British/French modern lands of the ME. He makes idiots Einsteinian.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM

He does it on purpose. ISIL contains the words ‘Iraq,’ which is meant to be the Bush bell to Pavlov’s dog LIV voters, and ‘The Levant’ might as well be some remote desert resort in New Mexico for all they know or care. On the other hand, ISIS contains the word ‘Syria,’ which reminds everyone of his own supreme fvck up.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Putin is laughing his *ss off

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Yep. If Putin wants Alaska now’s his chance. All he has to do is come and take it. This poser wouldn’t do anything to stop him.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Heh +1 wln

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

“We are not taking military action in Ukraine”

Putin orders full scale military ops in Ukraine to commence at 1700 EDT.

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

If Judge Judy wasn’t being preempted right now she would tell him to take his damned elbow off the podium and stand up straight.

Naturally Curly on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Fool, you empowered Putin.

He sends you his thanks.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Doesn’t this constitutional law scholar know that an “ongoing incursion” is really an invasion? No. Also, he has to keep our border open as long as possible so as many of his muslim terrorist buddies can get into this country as possible. Because, the best thing that can happen to him is to lose the senate. If he keeps it, with dirty hairy in charge, this country is due for some real turmoil over the next two years..

Old Country Boy on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Puh Leeze.. prove to me Lucy, that this skinny black bastige in a Louis Farrakahhn suit ever set foot in a college.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

“In order for Iraq to succeed, we must help…”
Freaking dufus.

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

It is not in the cards for US military action against Russia…

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Ive been very clear

Lol

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM

After the midterms………………………………………executive amnesty.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Semi-retired president to address something he saw on the news today about Ukraine

One of the reasons why I love reading AP. Great sarcastic sense of humor….. just what I like. :)

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

“Hope Springs Eternal”.

/Are you f*cking kidding me? Remove this stupid clown, immediately. I mean, Biden can be accepted as a retard, but this stupid bastige has got ta go. NOW.

Sheesh

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

On the other hand, ISIS contains the word ‘Syria,’ which reminds everyone of his own supreme fvck up.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

He slipped and called it “ISIS” later :)

He is an eternally ignorant dilettante, and proud of hisself.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Yepper d1c

Amnesty

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

FYI, the rider of the Pale Horse is Death.

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Anyone counting the I, me, and mys?

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM

It’s easier to count the words in between.

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 4:33 PM

For sure Walter, for sure.

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Probably the day after.

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

“Fewer folks are coming across”

Fool, it’s hot.

Fruck you, badly, then burn from it.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Obama:

“Blah, blah, blah, I, I, I, me, me, me, it’s Bush’s fault, the Republicans suck.”

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

No strategy yet on ISIS

Yeah Obama is making sure his friends & cousins are out of the strike zone before he launches a few drone strikes to call it day on ISIS…..believe me, Obama’s base is screaming at him to do nothing.

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Fruck off on the “supplemental”. God damn you, into eternal Hell, you traitor in all ways.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Boy he really wanted to talk about illegal immigration. Had already taken last question, but stayed just to babble about that. It’s all Congress’s fault for not acting, so he’s going to have to do something!

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Your judges are awol. Champ

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Get rid of Reid.

This oaf is no longer sane, nor is Reid.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Obama on ISIS: “We don’t have a strategy yet.”

Didn’t Obama’s press secretary misnamed Earnest say yesterday that the President had a “comprehensive” strategy for combatting ISIS?

In Obamaspeak, “comprehensive” means “no”.

Which may be a good thing–”comprehensive” immigration reform means no immigration reform?

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Obama’s “Strong Disapproval” Double His “Strong Approval”

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Double secret disapproval!

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM

The POTUS is wearing Louis Farrakhan’s yellow jacket.

I hope other blogs will pick this up. Louis Farrakhan is an avowed Islamist. The yellow jacket represents the “sting” to Americans.

Key West Reader on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Obama’s address to the people about the beheading of the reporter by ISIS.

My fellow Americans. This is sad and outrageous. I be heading to the golf course.

txdoc on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Obama was awesome
-post presser talking heads

cmsinaz on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Here is a good strategy for dealing with ISIS:

1. Find them
2. Kill them
3. Come home

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

“In order for Iraq to succeed, we must help…”
Freaking dufus.

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

The problems in Iraq right now are a direct result of his actions. He’s too stupid and narcissistic to realize that. Dufus is much too tame a epithet for him. I have never in my life seen anything like this. His incompetence in economics is vastly exceeded by his incompetence in foreign relations. As far as a race organizer he’s overshadowed by Al Sharpton and that speaks for itself.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Goehmert is a riot.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:41 PM

“…and don’t even get me started about that ISIL…”

Akzed on August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Here is a good strategy for dealing with ISIS:

1. Find them
2. Kill them
3. Come home

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

“Take the oil, leave the cannolis”.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

On serious note, IS reflects better what they are. They are at war with the entire non-them world.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Ok.

let’s get back over to the “GOP survey” thread. Michele Obama, in the guise of Tlaloc, is laying on the stupid heavy this afternoon.

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Will Dear Leader send Johnnie Mc over to work this out..? He knows who the moderates are.

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Well crap! My day’s ruined and things were going so well. Wish I hadn’t watched it. I’ll be stewing about this for hours.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Obama deploys his most effective weapon:

Rhetoric

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM

I thought his most effective weapon was a putter. My bad.

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

This moronic POS president subscribes to the maxim that “if you don’t do anything, you can’t do anything wrong or get blamed. Maybe the problem will go away” Or perhaps the donkey will learn how to sing.

Old Country Boy on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

ABC and CBS news hammering Obama on “we dont have a strategy yet”

It must be the end of the world :)

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Obama on ISIS: “We don’t have a strategy yet.”

But the new Baghdad Bobby said yesterday that they do have one.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Good answer by POTUS on Ukraine and military action. We’re not going to war with Russia, but don’t mess with NATO.

Ukraine is part of NATO, and Russia messed with them. So what do we do about it?

Fore!

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

This moronic POS president subscribes to the maxim that “if you don’t do anything, you can’t do anything wrong or get blamed. Maybe the problem will go away” Or perhaps the donkey will learn how to sing.

Old Country Boy on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

What we need is a trumpeting elephant in the White House. 2016 can’t come soon enough.

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 4:48 PM

“So some little hitshole east of Newfoundland someplace has picked a fight with Putin. You interrupted my golf game for THIS!!!!!”

MaiDee on August 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Ukraine is part of NATO, and Russia messed with them. So what do we do about it?

Fore!

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Ukraine is not a NATO member country.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Operation Overlord: The Allied Incursion of Europe

Hitler was convinced the incursion would take place at Calais.

Ghenghis Kahn conducted the worlds largest known incursion……..

Chuck Norris in “Incursion USA”

Lots of history to re-write.

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:51 PM

This moronic POS president subscribes to the maxim that “if you don’t do anything, you can’t do anything wrong or get blamed. Maybe the problem will go away” Or perhaps the donkey will learn how to sing.

Old Country Boy on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Present.

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 4:51 PM

“In order for Iraq to succeed, we must help…”
Freaking dufus.

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM

The problems in Iraq right now are a direct result of his actions. He’s too stupid and narcissistic to realize that. Dufus is much too tame a epithet for him. I have never in my life seen anything like this. His incompetence in economics is vastly exceeded by his incompetence in foreign relations. As far as a race organizer he’s overshadowed by Al Sharpton and that speaks for itself.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Agreed Oldnuke. I didn’t think we should have left as soon as we did. If they paid attention to the growth of ISIS, they would have seen this all coming and not pull out. Then again, looking at it from another angle. What if all of this is part of the plan for the One World goal. Let ISIS have at it and get rid of those in another religion, the poor, and weak. Then as their numbers grow in ISIS, they’ll move on to others who live in Western ways. There’s just too much being systematically being destroyed (softening the targets, us being the biggest one) that this isn’t part of their plan.

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:52 PM

ABC and CBS news hammering Obama on “we dont have a strategy yet”

It must be the end of the world :)

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I just saw some pigs flying by my window.

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Ukraine is not a NATO member country.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:50 PM

If they were, we would have heard a different story today. Probably something to do with the war on women.

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Were y’all expecting this guy to say something profound?

After all the pap this guy has spewed over the years, only an insane person would expect this to not be a waste of time.

cozmo on August 28, 2014 at 4:54 PM

If they were, we would have heard a different story today. Probably something to do with the war on women.

BobMbx on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

With what I’m seeing I seriously wonder just what he would do if a NATO member was attacked.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

31giddyup on August 28, 2014 at 4:52 PM

They probably did see it coming but didn’t want to deal with all this hard stuff. They are completely focused on social organizing in this country. Nothing else matters.

crankyoldlady on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Flexibility.

Fallon on August 28, 2014 at 4:56 PM

The Five is coming up. Can’t wait to hear Beckel’s pontification on this. My TV may not survive.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:57 PM

With what I’m seeing I seriously wonder just what he would do if a NATO member was attacked.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Tee off.

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

I seriously wonder just what he would do if a NATO member was attacked.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Probably make a speech to NATO telling them what they should all do.

crankyoldlady on August 28, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Barry’s still working on his Labia strategy.

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Everything that is exploding in Obama’s face is just more proof of how super scary smart he is. Putin, ISIS, and China have walked right into his traps. Just wait, it will be a huge win for our young black president.

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 5:03 PM

With what I’m seeing I seriously wonder just what he would do if a NATO member was attacked.

Oldnuke on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Consult with our allies, consider options, form a focus group, take a poll, form an executive committee, give a speech, stick his finger in the air, scratch his butt and then arm the muslim terrorists.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:03 PM

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