More Senate Democrats hit the panic button on immigration

posted at 3:21 pm on August 28, 2014 by Gabriel Malor

As the summer comes to a close, the self-imposed deadline on President Obama’s unilateral immigration action is winding down. That is increasingly winding up Democratic candidates who think an Obama amnesty will sink their chances, like, say, Sen. Mark Pryor:

Democrats campaigning for re-election in conservative states worry that the president could fire up conservative voters if he acts unilaterally.

One of those senators, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, said the president’s frustration with Republicans who oppose an immigration overhaul did not give him “carte blanche authority to sidestep Congress when he doesn’t get his way.”

If that sounds vaguely familiar, it’s because Obama used to sing that same tune. Here he is in 2010, explaining that he does not have discretion to issue blanket amnesties:

If Congress has laws on the books that says that people who are here who are not documented have to be deported, then I can exercise some flexibility in terms of where we deploy our resources, to focus on people who are really causing problems as a opposed to families who are just trying to work and support themselves. But there’s a limit to the discretion that I can show because I am obliged to execute the law. That’s what the Executive Branch means. I can’t just make the laws up by myself.

Now, don’t be fooled by the NY Times’ suggestion above that Democratic panic is limited to conservative states. It’s not. As Guy wrote last week, the immigration issue is also fueling Scott Brown’s surge against New Hampshire’s Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, who, by the way, has today abandoned her wait-and-see approach on this issue and announced that she opposes “a piecemeal approach issued by executive order.”  Shaheen joins Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan and Sen. Mark Begich in urging Obama not to issue an executive order ending immigration enforcement for millions of aliens unlawfully present.

The Washington Post has unnamed “strategists” claiming that if Obama does announce a broad executive order, it will be because he has given up on the Senate. On the other hand, as Noah explained last night, many in the news media are gleefully pushing the idea that the GOP would unleash another government shutdown in response to an Obama amnesty. The media assumption is that an immigration-related shutdown would be as unpopular as last fall’s shutdown and boost Democratic chances in November. I don’t think that’s a safe assumption. Unlike last year’s squabble over the budget, immigration enforcement is an issue on which Republicans show increasing unity even as Democrats are increasingly fractured.

The AP has the best information I could find on when Obama plans to unleash immigration mayhem. According to AP, Obama had planned to announce by Labor Day, but that has been pushed back by the ongoing foreign policy meltdowns in Russia, Syria, and Iraq. At this point, it looks like an immigration announcement would come in a few more weeks.

 


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Lampposts and rope. Tar and feathers. Pitchforks and torches.

All things that need to appear in DC.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Nothing like going home and getting in touch with the constituents.

novaculus on August 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM

…many in the news media are gleefully pushing the idea that the GOP would unleash another government shutdown in response to an Obama amnesty.

Are you kidding me? The establishment Republicans would love it if Obama unilaterally granted amnesty. It’s just what they want but without the blame.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM

I laugh every time I see that statement at the bottom of the picture that Boob made.

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM

one could surmise that in regards to immigration amnesty, the current occupant of the white house has gone ahead and drawn another red line.

warmairfan on August 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Nothing like going home and getting in touch with the constituents. rubes.

novaculus on August 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Gotta think like they do.

Free Indeed on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Heads Up:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

WH just announced Pres Obama willl make a statement at 4pm in the WH briefing room. Expected to focus on situations in Syria and Ukraine.

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

one could surmise that in regards to immigration amnesty, the current occupant of the white house has gone ahead and drawn another red brown line.

warmairfan on August 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Are you kidding me? The establishment Republicans would love it if Obama unilaterally granted amnesty. It’s just what they want but without the blame.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM

So. How would Republicans make any gains……… since the Dems would get the credit and the votes is this went through?

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Labor day? What a slap in the face to legal low-wage workers who are the ones feeling the deep brunt of the importation of millions of low-wage workers.

Many of these illegal immigrants are the functional equivalent of scabs.

HakerA on August 28, 2014 at 3:39 PM

You know what makes a fire roar, gasoline.

Bishop on August 28, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Obama doesn’t care about the fate of Democrat senators because he doesn’t care who controls the Senate. He’s king now. It doesn’t matter.

Mark1971 on August 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

So,….Protests in front of the WH:
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-senate-immigration-reform-deal/

https://twitter.com/smahaskey

1h
Photo: Arrests made at immigration reform protest as activists blocking sidewalk near the White House call on president Obama to end deportations – @smahaskey
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https://twitter.com/smahaskey/status/505047191938162690/photo/1

https://twitter.com/smahaskey/status/505037709195612160/photo/1

https://twitter.com/smahaskey/status/505024533490073600/photo/1

https://twitter.com/smahaskey/status/505020666094309377/photo/1

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Dims want Barry to wait until the day after the midterms. I doubt he will care how badly this will hurt them.

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

It can’t be ignored. The world is burning.

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Obama is in for the long game. 5 million more Dem voters is much more important than 2 years in the Senate wilderness.

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM

I can’t just make the laws up by myself.

… “I have to also have my legal team, Congressional brethren, and media.”

AeroSpear on August 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Have Pen and Phone, will circumnavigate around Senators!!

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Hopeys Presser Linky:

Next Up…
August 28, 2014 4:00 PM EDT

President Obama Delivers a Statement

The White House

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Heads Up:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

WH just announced Pres Obama willl make a statement at 4pm whenever he gets in the WH briefing room. Expected to focus on situations in Syria and Ukraine.

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Obama doesn’t care about the fate of Democrat senators because he doesn’t care who controls the Senate. He’s king now. It doesn’t matter.

Mark1971 on August 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Obama is in for the long game. 5 million more Dem voters is much more important than 2 years in the Senate wilderness.

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM

I think he wants to lose the Senate so he can use his phone & pen without having to worry about working with those obstructionist Republicans. After all the Republicans have already said that “impeachment is off the table”, so Obama has nothing to lose.

The first thing a conservative Republican candidate for president should do is say:
“I will reverse President Obama’s amnesty and start up the buses and deport those 5 million people”

Landslide

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 3:48 PM

According to AP, Obama had planned to announce by Labor Day, but that has been pushed back by the ongoing foreign policy meltdowns in Russia, Syria, and Iraq. At this point, it looks like an immigration announcement would come in a few more weeks.

Because those other stories will have blown over by then or something.

Midas on August 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM

So. How would Republicans make any gains……… since the Dems would get the credit and the votes is this went through?

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Republicans who think they’re going to make gains at the polls from amnesty are delusional. And besides, I don’t believe they’re stupid enough to actually believe their own rhetoric. For the Republicans, it’s what the big money donors want to depress wages further and break the unions.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Are you kidding me? The establishment Republicans would love it if Obama unilaterally granted amnesty. It’s just what they want but without the blame.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM

So. How would Republicans make any gains……… since the Dems would get the credit and the votes is this went through?

avagreen on August 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM

You say that as though you think they’d have a) gotten credit, or b) gotten any of those votes to begin with.

Midas on August 28, 2014 at 3:50 PM

The Washington Post has unnamed “strategists” claiming that if Obama does announce a broad executive order, it will be because he has given up on the Senate. On the other hand, as Noah explained last night, many in the news media are gleefully pushing the idea that the GOP would unleash another government shutdown in response to an Obama amnesty. The media assumption is that an immigration-related shutdown would be as unpopular as last fall’s shutdown and boost Democratic chances in November. I don’t think that’s a safe assumption. Unlike last year’s squabble over the budget, immigration enforcement is an issue on which Republicans show increasing unity even as Democrats are increasingly fractured.

I think we can be successful with next shutdown, if we learn from the last one. There was not a single chance in hell that the Ted Cruz lead shutdown over Obamacare would be successful in meeting its goals. People were to be pissed about the GOP for it. Any shutdown should directly relate to the goal being pursued and it needs to have a good bit of Democratic intransigence in the mix. We want a narrative of both sides having responsibility.

[As an aside, the reason that Paul Ryan ended up with the sucky budget deal that he got was the Ted Cruz crusade and its pointless shutdown eliminated the shutdown from Ryan's playbook and the Democrats knew it.]

thuja on August 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Hey Gabe, Ace is looking for you and he says you’re in big trouble.

Cicero43 on August 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Ask every single candidate for every office at the Federal, State, and Local levels to tell you what their position is on ILLEGAL immigration.

Then VOTE AGAINST any candidate who believes in anything other than DEPORTING ILLEGAL aliens!

U.S. Immigration Laws won’t be enforced unless U.S. VOTERS DEMAND that our laws be enforced.

wren on August 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

It can’t be ignored. The world is burning.

cat_owner on August 28, 2014 at 3:41 PM

cat_owner: Agreed, I guess it gets worse:)
==========================================

American journalist executed by Islamic State
4m

At least 4 hostages held in Syria by the Islamic State, including James Foley, were waterboarded in the early part of their captivity, according to people familiar with the treatment of the kidnapped Westerners – @washingtonpost
Read more on washingtonpost.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/captives-held-by-islamic-state-were-waterboarded/2014/08/28/2b4e1962-2ec9-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Are you kidding me? The establishment Republicans would love it if Obama unilaterally granted amnesty. It’s just what they want but without the blame.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Yup! I think Brad Dayspring cut and paste this from a Jeff Sessions statement. If he believed this then where was he last year during the debate on the Senate amnesty bill? Obviously, this is not the NRSC’s real position which is open borders and increased legal/illegal immigration.

In short, these Democratic candidates will be responsible for President Obama’s Executive Amnesty. They will be complicit in slashing wages and making it even more difficult for unemployed Americans trying to get a job to find one. For years, Americans have begged for the laws to be enforced and for a just and fair system of immigration that serves everyone’s best interests.Brad Dayspring NRSC

After the election the establishment will most likely do what they can funding-wise to help Obama implement his illegal amnesty.

Wigglesworth on August 28, 2014 at 3:56 PM

All that really needs to happen is for gop leaders to say “when we take over, anyone who is here illegally and signs up for benefits or registers to vote will be rounded up and deported.”

i don’t think illegals will risk it. they’ve gotten by “in the shadows” this long, so why change things?

jetch on August 28, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Ask every single candidate for every office at the Federal, State, and Local levels to tell you what their position is on ILLEGAL immigration.

Then VOTE AGAINST any candidate who believes in anything other than DEPORTING ILLEGAL aliens!

U.S. Immigration Laws won’t be enforced unless U.S. VOTERS DEMAND that our laws be enforced.

wren on August 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM

What is so depressing about the immigration debate is the cluelessness of most people whom I agree with on the topic. Deportation doesn’t help anything. What would help is serious fines against companies hiring illegals. What would help is no welfare and no free medicine.

thuja on August 28, 2014 at 3:57 PM

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 28, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Walter L. Newton: Lol, thats about it:)

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM

At least 4 hostages held in Syria by the Islamic State, including James Foley, were waterboarded in the early part of their captivity, according to people familiar with the treatment of the kidnapped Westerners –

Nancy Pelosi probably heard that and is blaming the CIA.

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

Earnest briefing now at 4:10

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

RT @PressSec: Still on, just slightly delayed MT @ZekeJMiller so when’s the NSC meeting?

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Could they possibly be waking to the idea that you don’t assume for yourself the power you don’t want your worst enemy to have?

The Schaef on August 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM

What is so depressing about the immigration debate is the cluelessness of most people whom I agree with on the topic. Deportation doesn’t help anything. What would help is serious fines against companies hiring illegals. What would help is no welfare and no free medicine.

thuja on August 28, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Deportation is the key……

Fining companies does nothing except line the pockets of government.

For the most part the government throws up many roadblocks for companies to actually check on a potential workers status. Plus many illegals have forged documents.

And the biggest thing that would help is to stop educating the illegal children. That is the biggest draw for many illegals. The left has been working on destroying the immigration system for 60 years.
They are almost done…….

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I just got an “AMNESTY ALERT” email from the NRCC. LOL

Wigglesworth on August 28, 2014 at 4:11 PM

obama looks as he is in that picture, stupid beyond belief.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, who, by the way, has today abandoned her wait-and-see approach on this issue and announced that she opposes “a piecemeal approach issued by executive order.” Shaheen joins Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan and Sen. Mark Begich in urging Obama not to issue an executive order ending immigration enforcement for millions of aliens unlawfully present.

Translation:

“We’re desperate to hold on to our jobs.”

itsspideyman on August 28, 2014 at 4:51 PM

So much for the fiction the Demos haven’t considered what a backlash to amnesty would be like.

Obama is in for the long game. 5 million more Dem voters is much more important than 2 years in the Senate wilderness.

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM

The only game he’s in for is his next tee time.

This guy cares only about himself.

Illegals Storm the Beach in San Diego

WhirledPeas on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Omaha Beach, anyone?

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Who’s gonna blink first? Any guesses? Mine would go with the most desperate party in this hunt.

Kissmygrits on August 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

If the GOP is smart it won’t shut down the government. It will just say “we need more Republicans in Congress and a Republican president” and allow Obama to keep destroying the Democratic Party. Republicans usually didn’t think Bush was destroying the party in the minds of voters until his last two years. Democrats are unsettled but don’t think Obama is the same. The next two years will disabuse them of that notion.

Establishment Republicans will huff and puff and gleefully take the short-term electoral advantage it gives them to strenuously criticize the Administration’s threats of lawlessness on immigration. And then they’ll go about destroying that advantage by showing their true colors on the issue about thirty seconds after they’ve won the elections they want to win.

deepelemblues on August 28, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Panic button? Nah, that is just posturing.

If they were serious they would hit the EJECT BUTTON as they kept on saying R’s wanted to do. The moment you hear a D that is in trouble say the I-word, then you will know the Eject Button is about to be hit and with much vigor. Of course by then it will be too late.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Larry Sabato was on Cauvoto talking about the Senate race and he said that Southern red states don’t have to worry about immigration because they don’t have a large illegal population. What? I have to have misunderstood.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 5:11 PM

As an aside, the reason that Paul Ryan ended up with the sucky budget deal that he got was the Ted Cruz crusade and its pointless shutdown eliminated the shutdown from Ryan’s playbook and the Democrats knew it.]

thuja

Do you believe in bigfoot too? And btw, Harry Reid is the one who shut down the government.

What is so depressing about the immigration debate is the cluelessness of most people whom I agree with on the topic. Deportation doesn’t help anything.

thuja

You shouldn’t criticize anyone over being clueless.

xblade on August 28, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Illegals Storm the Beach in San Diego

WhirledPeas on August 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Omaha Obama Beach, anyone?

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Sorry, Omaha was already taken. Besides, illegals and BHO have much in common.

antipc on August 28, 2014 at 5:25 PM

What is so depressing about the immigration debate is the cluelessness of most people whom I agree with on the topic. Deportation doesn’t help anything.

thuja

You shouldn’t criticize anyone over being clueless.

xblade on August 28, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Think I’ll second that.

antipc on August 28, 2014 at 5:27 PM

This isn’t Ace of Spades HQ… Did you post this at the wrong site Gabe?

What’s next? CAC/Finnigan/Meatball posting plaid maps over here too?

NWConservative on August 28, 2014 at 5:27 PM

It has always been a bit obvious to me that blue collar Democrats would not take this amnesty sitting down. Recall back in 2007 the Republicans were already the minority and yet immigration reform failed, particularly because these blue collar Democrats did not like what they were seeing. Why would that have changed so drastically in seven years? How would that make sense?

ojfltx on August 28, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Crap your pants, rats.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 5:35 PM

One objective:

Get out the conservative votes in Nov. .

Only chance we have is to take over the R party.

Stay on subject. Get out the vote.

The commie Democrats will thrown 10 million tons of crap at the wall from here on in with the msm help and assistance.

Just stay on the deal of get the vote out.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 28, 2014 at 5:50 PM

At this point, it looks like an immigration announcement would come in a few more weeks.

Gabe, you’re an optimist.

Try the day after the November elections.

GarandFan on August 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM

How ISIS Would Get into the Homeland
Top terror organizations know our border vulnerabilities “better than many law-enforcement officers do.”
Janice Kephart, founder and CEO of the Secure Identity and Biometrics Association and former counsel to the 9/11 Commission, says she thinks the U.S. is in a safer position on this issue because reforms implemented on the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission. But she has another cause for concern: the large amount of people crossing the southwest border.

“The physical border between the U.S. and Mexico is far worse than it was before 9/11,” Kephart says. “The refusal by this administration to put modern technology to consistent, strategic use across the border with a clear policy to enforce the law at and inside the U.S. has made for an incredibly lawless situation which our border forces cannot handle, even if they had the go-ahead to do so.”

If al-Qaeda or the Islamic State wanted to enter the U.S., Kephart says, they would likely do it on land — such as at the southwest border — where the infiltrators could arrive anonymously and unofficially. If al-Qaeda or the Islamic State attempted to access the U.S via a port of entry or via the Visa Waiver Program, then they would face greater scrutiny and may place themselves at greater risk of getting caught.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386502/how-isis-would-get-homeland-ryan-lovelace

DinaRehn on August 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Is this the thread to post Michael Sam Shower Fantasies?

Fathom on August 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Unless in 2015 it’s reversed, expect one-party rule starting in 2016

Ukiah on August 28, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I think I have a solution to the issue of deporting all the illegal lawbreakers.
1. Extremely large fines for employers who hire ‘any’ illegal. (maybe $1 million per offense)
2. Extremely large fines for landlords and Realtors who sell or rent to Illegal’s.
3. Ending of “all” public services for illegal’s including Welfare, schooling, and medical
(except emergency care, real emergencies)
4. Offer free transportation to the home countries of any illegal.

If you deny them employment, housing or any public assistance “I believe ” that a lot if not most would volunteer to be deported and we would be spared some of the expense and hatred that forceably rounding them up would cause.

jtpcamp on August 28, 2014 at 11:36 PM

If Obama is going “All In” with the the granting of “refugee” status to people from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, etc… Shouldn’t we put military “boots on the ground” to help ease those people’s suffering? If they are under assault, we should help them.
The only suffering we are ending is the payroll accounts of big businesses like IBM, Microsoft, and Facebook.

shorebird on August 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM