Heartache for lefties: Elizabeth Warren defends Israel at Massachusetts town hall

posted at 7:21 pm on August 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Dave Weigel, this is this is like Ted Cruz telling an audience of tea partiers that raising taxes isn’t such a bad idea after all.

Tough week for progressives hoping to primary Hillary in 2016. The furthest Bernie Sanders would go last Wednesday while being badgered by an audience of Hamas apologists was to say that Israel had “overreacted.” There was some hope that Warren, when she finally spoke up, might go further given her reluctance to address this subject in the past, especially since, as Weigel notes, a plurality of Dems told Gallup that Israel’s latest war in Gaza is unjustified. Nope. Turns out the great leftist hope may actually be to Rand Paul’s right on foreign policy.

“I think the vote [to send $225 million for its fight with Hamas] was right, and I’ll tell you why I think the vote was right,” she said. “America has a very special relationship with Israel. Israel lives in a very dangerous part of the world, and a part of the world where there aren’t many liberal democracies and democracies that are controlled by the rule of law. And we very much need an ally in that part of the world.”

Warren said Hamas has attacked Israel “indiscriminately,” but with the Iron Dome defense system, the missiles have “not had the terrorist effect Hamas hoped for.” When pressed by another member of the crowd about civilian casualties from Israel’s attacks, Warren said she believes those casualties are the “last thing Israel wants.”

“But when Hamas puts its rocket launchers next to hospitals, next to schools, they’re using their civilian population to protect their military assets. And I believe Israel has a right, at that point, to defend itself,” Warren said, drawing applause.

Noreen Thompsen, of Eastham, proposed that Israel should be prevented from building any more settlements as a condition of future U.S. funding, but Warren said, “I think there’s a question of whether we should go that far.”

What’s next? Elizabeth Warren opposes the right of return? She might as well switch parties. In all seriousness, though, if you’re desperate for tea leaves on whether she might challenge Hillary, this is a point in the “she might!” column, right? Support for Israel is the smart, safe play for Democrats, even liberal Democrats, with national ambitions. The anti-Israel left is used to being frustrated by its national leaders on this issue; they’ve learned to tolerate it, partly because they know most Americans are pro-Israel and partly because, as that Michelle Nunn campaign memo put it, they need Jewish donors. If Warren primaried Hillary and hit her from the left domestically while lining up with her on foreign policy, they’d give her a pass. They gave Obama a pass in lining up with McCain on gay marriage, didn’t they? They’re willing to bend on certain issues in the interest of electability, especially if they suspect the candidate would be more liberal in office than he or she seems on the trail. All Warren is doing here is conserving a little electability — which is not to suggest that she’s running. She isn’t. Probably.

Speaking of people who aren’t running, I don’t really need to blog this dopey Suffolk poll of Iowa showing Mitt Romney with a huge lead, do I? It’s a name-recognition thing, people! Every Republican there knows him well from the last campaign. Ask the undecideds who they prefer and they’re apt to mention the one guy whose name they still remember.


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Admittedly, Israel *is* one of the most notorious terrorist states out there, can you really blame Hamas?

libfreeordie on June 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM

She actually sounded sane on this.

Dude. I’m scared.

HotAirian on August 28, 2014 at 7:27 PM

While men gave us a series of financial panics, a hugely inequitable economic system, slavery and Jim Crow, censorship laws, persecution of immigrants, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and The Jungle, Jew quotas in higher education

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Link, for above elitist intelligence

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM

What’s next? Will she say that police officers have the right to defend themselves against being beaten unconscious by somebody who already tried once? What a redneck….

RBMN on August 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Whats that word……….”Triangulating” ?

FlaMurph on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

She’s just going after the secret jooooo gold they have.

El_Terrible on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

The Dems can’t nominate a pro-Israel war hawk like Elizabeth Warren.

anotherJoe on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

urban elitist on May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

The smarter Democrats know that even if they make it out of the primaries, they still have to appeal to America at large, which is overwhelmingly pro-Israel.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Adolf Hitler took a lot of things and twisted them, doesn’t mean all of his ideas were bad ones

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM

The smarter Democrats know that even if they make it out of the primaries, they still have to appeal to America at large, which is overwhelmingly pro-Israel.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM

…and Democrats have a lock on the anti-Israel self-hating-Jew vote.

RBMN on August 28, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Democrats always say they support Israel, especially when they are running for office.

myiq2xu on August 28, 2014 at 7:38 PM

She’s running

portlandon on August 28, 2014 at 7:39 PM

To paraphrase Patton, I’d rather have a division of Hamas lunatics in front of me than a division of Liawatha Warren lunatics behind me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

She’s just going after the secret jooooo gold they have.

El_Terrible on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

uh, that WAS a secret until you spilled the שְׁעוּעִית, dude.
And they call ME the Tard around here!

Tard on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

They must be losing Jewish support.

crankyoldlady on August 28, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Tea Gabbers surprised again that the things they learned in conservative bubble about Democrats are wrong and complete fantasy.

Idiot Tea Gabbers!

Ned Pepper on August 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM

JIMMY CARTER TO HEADLINE FUNDRAISER FOR HAMAS FRONT GROUP

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/27/Jimmy-Carter-To-Headline-Fundraiser-for-Hamas-Front-Group

Hamas Publicly Executes 18 Palestinians Accused of Aiding Israel

http://www.newsweek.com/hamas-executes-18-palestinians-accused-aiding-israel-266233

redguy on August 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Confirmation we are living in Bizzaro world

rbj on August 28, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I truly love this woman.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Girl, bye.

slickwillie2001 on August 28, 2014 at 7:48 PM

…and Democrats have a lock on the anti-Israel self-hating-Jew vote.

RBMN on August 28, 2014 at 7:34 PM

That, too.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 7:49 PM

What’s next? Elizabeth Warren opposes the right of return? She might as well switch parties. In all seriousness,
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Obama as well talked tough and supported Israel
during his campaigning!!!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 7:53 PM

This is the problem with democrats, they lie lie lie about how they truly feel just to get elected.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Obama as well talked tough and supported Israel
during his campaigning!!!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Yep. And then the minute he slimed into office he blamed Israel building apartments in the Jerusalem suburbs for every ill in the middle east and the world. And Barky only got more anti-Israel since – even to the insane point where no one in his junta could even utter the name “Jerusalem” … though they had no problem shouting “Al Quds” for Congressional testimony!

There’s little worse in the world than having lefties claim to be your ally. Maybe having the French say they’ll back you … though it’s a close call.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Libfree hardest hit.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 8:00 PM

What has Israel done to get the left to dislike them so much and why do lefties like Hamas, Palestinians etc? Don’t understand this.

Herb on August 28, 2014 at 8:01 PM

She got one right. That would still be one better than Dear Liar.

Wisdom_of_Homer on August 28, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Since Baaston seems to be a hotbed of Moslem cutthroats, maybe she’s just had one of those collisions with cold, hard reality.

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Moonbats Dump Buckets Of Rubble On Themselves In Front Of White House…

In “solidarity” with those peace-loving Palestinians.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Don’t believe a damn thing a leftist says when they are “considering” running for national office, never! They all lie to get the LIV and independents. Book it.

D-fusit on August 28, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Moonbats Dump Buckets Of Rubble On Themselves In Front Of White House…

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Never heard of the Rubble Bucket Challenge? Figures that only Code Pinksters would accept it.

de rigueur on August 28, 2014 at 8:17 PM

She’s still a detestable loon.

V7_Sport on August 28, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Heartache Trail of Tears for lefties:

Jeezus Allah, can’t you do anything right?

antipc on August 28, 2014 at 8:24 PM

I care little for Elizabeth Warren’s opinions on political issues.

The article below, linked at WSJ’s “Best of the Web” is excellent. The former AP editor makes the case about how Israel has been maligned via the media and has been made the target for anti-Semitism while neglecting the threats of atrocious behaviors around the world.

It is a long read but quite worthwhile.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/183033/israel-insider-guide?all=1

onlineanalyst on August 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM

What has Israel done to get the left to dislike them so much and why do lefties like Hamas, Palestinians etc? Don’t understand this.

Herb on August 28, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Same spirit driving them both. Once you understand that, your Israel question answers itself.

Cleombrotus on August 28, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Second look at Dennis Kucinich?

blammm on August 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Actually,

America’s unqualified support of Israel does America much more harm than good. Israel offers the United States nothing but heartache.

For more on this reality, rather than the myth of Israel – Check out this awesome debate between Michael Scheuer and Peter King. It gets much deeper into this, not just tradition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ

fatlibertarianinokc on August 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Me thinkum she speak with fork-ed tongue.

tbear44 on August 28, 2014 at 10:16 PM

‘Let’s assume that all the chips fell the jihadis’ way, that they recruited enough volunteers to be able to kidnap and decapitate every single Jew in Palestine. Then what? Muslims would still be, as Pakistan’s General Musharraf told a conference the other day, “the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most unenlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.” Who would “the victim of the world” blame next? The evidence of the Sudan, Nigeria, and other parts of Africa suggests that, when there are no Jews to hand, the Islamofascists happily make do with killing Christians. In Kashmir, it’s the Hindus’ fault. There’s always someone.’

- Mark Steyn

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 10:24 PM

No liberal, no matter their words in support of Israel, can ever be Israel’s friend because it is anathema to allow Israel to win.

The instant Israel retaliates, liberals may claim Israel’s actions are justified, but at the same time they all scream CEASEFIRE!

In their belief system there can be no winners. Israel is considered the strong horse, therefore the Palestinians are the “little guys” and liberals all claim to be “for the little guys”.

Thus the Cycle of Violence continues.

MaggiePoo on August 29, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Caliphate = One World Government.

Lefties love One World Government. Especially one that enforces through killing and mutilation.

That’s pretty much the long and short of it.

HikaruKitsune on August 29, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Yawn. Lip service to the Jewish Democratic plantation voters.

Libs understand all of that was said with a nudge and a wink. If she takes the office, I strongly suspect she’ll take the same course of action as BHO in this latest Israel-Palestine conflict.

TarasBulbous on August 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM

America’s unqualified support of Israel does America much more harm than good. Israel offers the United States nothing but heartache.

fatlibertarianinokc on August 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Then evacuate US forces from and nuke the entire goddamned region and be done with both the encroaching barbarian contingent and the perpetual headache.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Adolf Hitler took a lot of things and twisted them, doesn’t mean all of his ideas were bad ones

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

You mean like how he didn’t let disease-ridden homosexuals run wild, outright told women to go home, bake bread, make babies and quit making idiots of themselves in public unlike women elsewhere? Or how he built up a military that kicked tail on most of a continent before it even slowed down? Or how he shot reporters who printed state secrets?

Why goodness, I find myself in agreement with you for once.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Allahpundit:

Turns out the great leftist hope may actually be to Rand Paul’s right on foreign policy.

That quote is not even remotely factually accurate, so why did you feel the need to write it?

paulsur on August 29, 2014 at 1:42 PM