GOP survey confirms Republicans have a real problem with women

posted at 2:41 pm on August 28, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Republicans have known they have a problem with women voters for decades, but the problem has become especially pronounced in recent cycles. The gender gap among women voters favoring Democrats has only grown wider in the Obama-era. But the first step to crafting a prescription aimed at addressing a problem is to identify it accurately and with clinical precision. To that end, Republican groups commissioned a GOP poll of registered women voters. Their findings were not pretty.

Politico was provided with a copy of the survey’s results, some of which were unsurprising but others were. While it is no great shock that the GOP performs “especially poorly” appealing to women in the Northeast, it is surprising and problematic for the party that they get the same reception from women in the Midwest.

Moreover, the report found that even the GOP’s areas of traditional strength, like financial issues, are met with a cold reception by women due to their opposition to the Republican Party on other issues.

Even on fiscal matters — traditionally the party’s strongest issue set — Republicans hold only slight advantages that do not come close to outweighing their negative attributes. The GOP holds a 3 percent advantage over Democrats when female voters are asked who has “good ideas to grow the economy and create jobs,” and the same advantage on who is “fiscally responsible and can be trusted with our tax dollars.”

When female voters are asked who “wants to make health care more affordable,” Democrats have a 39 percent advantage, and a 40 percent advantage on who “looks out for the interests of women.” Democrats have a 39 percent advantage when it comes to who “is tolerant of other people’s lifestyles.”

Female voters who care about the top four issues — the economy, health care, education and jobs — vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Most striking, Democrats hold a 35-point advantage with female voters who care about jobs and a 26 percent advantage when asked which party is willing to compromise. House Republicans say jobs and the economy are their top priorities.

The solutions the report offered to GOP candidates to overcome their problems with women were… uninspiring:

The solutions offered include neutralizing Democratic attacks that the GOP doesn’t support “fairness” for women; “deal honestly with any disagreement on abortion, then move to other issues”; and “pursue policy innovations that inspire women voters to give the GOP a ‘fresh look.’”

The GOP does perform better with married women than they do single women – the poll found that married women back a GOP candidate over a Democrat by 10 points – but this is not enough to close the gender gap. In 2012, women made up 53 percent of the presidential electorate. Barack Obama won that demographic by 55 to 44 percent, despite losing married women (who made up 31 percent of the electorate) by 53 to 46 percent.

Playing off this poll, Meet the Press’s new host Chuck Todd showed he is prepared to ask the tough questions and “demystify” Washington:

“When it comes to women voters, do the arguments about contraception end up putting the party on mute with those same women voters who may like your economic proposals, but say, ‘There’s just too many crazy white guys who have too many crazy ideas about my reproductive system’?” he asked RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.

There isn’t anything mysterious about a clumsily framed Democratic campaign premise disguised as a question. Moreover, Chuck Todd has entirely missed the point of this poll. It is not that the GOP is seen by female voters as a party of men consumed with limiting access to contraception coverage. It is that the party is seen, wrongly in my view, as one which is intolerant of others’ lifestyles and rigid in its beliefs.

But more than providing fodder to buttress road-worn Democratic talking points, this report does have some lessons to teach Republicans. While Barack Obama’s coalition of minority voters is unlikely to also be Hillary Clinton’s coalition of minority voters, the current level of Democratic support among women is unlikely to change in 2016. If anything, the Democratic advantage among women may become more pronounced.

The GOP is smart to begin to address this disparity. A libertarian streak rising in the GOP may address the perception among women that the party is a monolith which is generally intolerant. Only time will tell, but time is running out.


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Bmore on August 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Like it or not, the facts are undeniable: The adoption of Womens’s suffrage coincides quite closely with the adoption of the big government nanny state. This is just the latest manifestation of the syndrome whereby women vote with their hearts and not with their heads.

Big surprise.

PD Quig on August 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Of course Democrats appeal to a wider segment of the population. They off an endless stream of free stuff. Most of which is highly dependent on deficit spending. It’s a great strategy until the credit card is maxed out. Conservatives are the adults in the room saying you can’t do this forever.

rmkdbq on August 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Like it or not, the facts are undeniable: The adoption of Womens’s suffrage coincides quite closely with the adoption of the big government nanny state. This is just the latest manifestation of the syndrome whereby women vote with their hearts and not with their heads.

Big surprise.

PD Quig on August 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Also coincides — that’s not really the word you want, but I know what you mean — with the emergence of the U.S. as a global superpower, the creation of unprecedented wealth, the rise of the middle class, the extension of the vote and civil rights to minorities and women, the emergence of the New York Yankees as a baseball dynasty, the virtual elimination of old-age poverty, electronic mass communications….

While men gave us a series of financial panics, a hugely inequitable economic system, slavery and Jim Crow, censorship laws, persecution of immigrants, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and The Jungle, Jew quotas in higher education…

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Jew quotas in higher education…

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Clarification please.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

J

ew quotas in higher education…

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Clarification please.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

For may years — until after WWII — many more prestigious universities had unwritten quotas on the number of Jews they would admit. Here’s one quick reference as I dash out for beers.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

Yes history is just rife with those matriarchal societies and the perfected civilizations they established.

son of a preacher man on August 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Right … until they get in positions of power where it turns out they do the same thing men in power do. Become corrupt and power hungry.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Right … until they get in positions of power where it turns out they do the same thing men in power do. Become corrupt and power hungry.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

To add … “minorities” do the same thing. Acquire power and wealth, become corrupt and power mad. When challenged they blame it all on the white man.

So in reality nothing changes except the skin color and crotch.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM

The Republican Party is ignorant, when it comes to messaging, the Democrats are pros at it. The Democrats propose policies that hurt families, women, and the poor, yet their messaging tells people how good it’s going to be. Do the Democrats ever look back and say, “We proposed this and it didn’t work?” Of course not, they look back and tell people it would have worked if it had MORE MONEY.

The Republicans talk about how the Democrats are wasting money and this program is a waste and that program is a failure, but they refuse to connect the dots. Until they get a master of communications in there, they will still have this gap. Women are inclined to listen more to intent, than results. If the Republicans were smart enough to point out the intent is to get votes and not look for results, perhaps the women will develop a little skepticism.

bflat879 on August 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

I see another unhinged troll has arrived.

CurtZHP on August 28, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Right … until they get in positions of power where it turns out they do the same thing men in power do. Become corrupt and power hungry.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Can’t we just leave Hillary out of this?

Don L on August 28, 2014 at 6:59 PM

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I’m surprised you have a problem with quotas, especially when it equates to liberals. Call me when they have a quota demanding conservatives be heard.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:00 PM

bflat879 on August 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

While I agree that they don’t message well but if they did, how do you think it would be translated by the Democrats minions in the media and most popular culture outlets? People believe stuff they hear until their own person situation changes.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM
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Right … until they get in positions of power where it turns out they do the same thing men in power do. Become corrupt and power hungry.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

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To add … “minorities” do the same thing. Acquire power and wealth, become corrupt and power mad.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM

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It’s almost as if you could just say “all people”, and be done with it.

listens2glenn on August 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

What’s the health benefit of abortifacients?

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy, duh.

Tlaloc on August 28, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Sounds like selling a house when you put it that way. I would suggest it’s slaughtering a helpless and precious human life before it can get to make the same choices you do.

Don L on August 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM

listens2glenn on August 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

No we can’t be individuals, we must be groups.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM

bflat879 on August 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

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While I agree that they don’t message well but if they did, how do you think it would be translated by the Democrats minions in the media and most popular culture outlets? People believe stuff they hear until their own person situation changes.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM

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There are ‘conservative artists’ who can message in a “pop-culture” manner very well, but Republican Party hierarchy refuses to use their material in campaigning.

listens2glenn on August 28, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Of course Democrats appeal to a wider segment of the population. They off an endless stream of free stuff. Most of which is highly dependent on deficit spending. It’s a great strategy until the credit card is maxed out. Conservatives are the adults in the room saying you can’t do this forever.

rmkdbq on August 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Right.

PBH on August 28, 2014 at 7:20 PM

While men gave us a series of financial panics, a hugely inequitable economic system, slavery and Jim Crow, censorship laws, persecution of immigrants, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and The Jungle, Jew quotas in higher education…

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Proof that obama is a woman.

we’re more comfortable with Obama wielding this sort of power because he seems a hell of a lot more effective and responsible with it.

urban elitist on February 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Those of you whe feel your views ate rooted in sound logic, should ask yourselves why you’re so defensive.

urban elitist on May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM

While men gave us a series of financial panics, a hugely inequitable economic system, slavery and Jim Crow, censorship laws, persecution of immigrants, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and The Jungle, Jew quotas in higher education…

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Yes, well, we know where we’d all be without women, right?

Still in the Garden.

Cleombrotus on August 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban elitist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

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Right … until they get in positions of power where it turns out they do the same thing men in power do. Become corrupt and power hungry.

darwin on August 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM
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Can’t we just leave Hillary out of this?

Don L on August 28, 2014 at 6:59 PM

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How ’bout Nancy ?

Valerie Jarrett ?

Anna Wintour ?

What’s-her-name, the Travis County, Texas DA ?

The commie-babe President of Argentina (yeah, I think she’s “hot”… what of it) ?

listens2glenn on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Take that Tea Gabbers!!

Years of “War on Women” has consequences.

Ned Pepper on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

They are not “progressive”, they are regressive. Nothing about them is true, especially what they call themselves, so stop calling them that. All you are doing is reinforcing their lies.

earlgrey on August 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Thank YOU !!!! I am glad I am not the only one here grinding his teeth when I see people on our side, cowering to the request of the far-left terminology. I never use that word to describe these maggots.

cableguy615 on August 28, 2014 at 7:44 PM

listens2glenn on August 28, 2014 at 7:18 PM

True. But then most Republicans in power are much different then Democrats.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Cleombrotus on August 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM

If you believe that Adam couldn’t say “no”…then Eve has to bear the blame.

lineholder on August 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM

TNed Pepper on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

I agree. Abortion has murdered generations of unborn females!

annoyinglittletwerp on August 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Ned Pepper on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 7:55 PM

lineholder on August 28, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Heh, actually, that’s a line from an old joke.

Personally, I think this whole “GOP has a problem with women” is just another extension of the divide-us mentality running rampant in our society these days. Men and women are supposed to be complimentary not adversarial and this meme of trying to get one Party to focus on appealing to a specific gender just blurs that even further. And it just causes women, particularly young women who don’t know any better, to think of themselves as a separate segment of society – a special interest, if you will – instead of a part of the whole with unique contributions to make to supplement the other parts, making the entire thing run well.

Cleombrotus on August 28, 2014 at 8:14 PM

While men gave us a series of financial panics, a hugely inequitable economic system, slavery and Jim Crow, censorship laws, persecution of immigrants, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and The Jungle, Jew quotas in higher education…

… oh, I guess you forget, a quintupling of the average life span, an increase in the quality of life unparalleled in the history of the world, inventions and innovations that have lowered mortality rates, increased productivity, and even brought us everything from TV to automobiles to the transistor … but I guess that’s just background noise.

Tool.

furytrader on August 28, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Cindy Munford – I’m from the school, you can bring a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. The Republicans don’t even bring the horse to the water. I had a little debate with my daughter once about women’s rights and I used, as a premise, the Democrats have done more harm to women than they realize and the Republicans refuse to point out how. My premise basically was that, by declaring women a minority group, they allowed employers to get a two-fer in the minority category by filling a slot with a women, she could be white, if she were black, or Hispanic, it was like filling 2 slots. The more this went on (and a lot less men were hired) the more difficult it because to support the family on one income. I don’t know how you articulate that, in a sentence or two, but it’s policy that caused this problem.

There are many policies that have inversely affected women and others who they were designed to help. I heard a great line tonight that the people making out the most, in the government anti-poverty programs are the people who are there to administer them. Their goal is not to solve a problem, their goal is to find out which program people are eligible for. They end up solving nothing and tend to grow exponentially, since those who administer them are always looking for people to qualify for them.

bflat879 on August 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The GOP does perform better with married women than they do single women – the poll found that married women back a GOP candidate over a Democrat by 10 points

Solution: Single conservative men…find yourself a traditional woman from another (poorer) country (if you can’t find one here), marry her, and produce conservative kids. That way we can kill two birds with one stone…our women problem and the immigration problem.

Warning: Make sure you get it right…you cannot get a divorce for the good of the nation (and your bank account).

From personal experience I have some evidence of this in action. My uncle has been married to a Latina from Ecuador for over 20 years and you cannot get more conservative than she is. She is traditional, yet runs her own business.

The problem we have is this country is the leftist are polluting the minds of the newly arrived immigrants with the free stuff. Well what beats the free stuff from government…an American man with a job or retirement…LOL. Yes this sound base and sexist, but it is historically accurate. My Anglo-Scottish ancestors married newly arrived German and Irish women…so can we!

Yes I am being silly and only half-serious on this…but we do have a lot of unhappy and unmarried (divorced) conservative men in this country. If Obama wants to play “Mr. Amnesty” and the GOP is not going to do anything to stop it, then Plan B should be to “integrate” the new female arrivals ourselves before some commie socialist with some freebies “integrates” them. Government cannot fix the car, or provide instant protection and safety, or provide warmth and human companionship.

Conservative men…we must save the country again. We can turn the tables on the leftist with the oldest strategy in the book. Marriage and reproduction.

And just think if the idiot leftist allow polygamy…

:)

William Eaton on August 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Wow, three unhinged whack-job trolls. We’ve hit the nutcase trifecta.

CurtZHP on August 28, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Yes, look at how these women protested an employer being able to force their religious beliefs on their employees! I mean it’s almost like they think those loser employees deserve religious freedom! What moochers…

Tlaloc on August 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Why not the freedom to work somewhere else? The problem with liberal women is that they can never see themselves as the boss. If you don’t like Hobby Lobby, find another place to work. Better yet, start your own damn company and compete with them.

monalisa on August 28, 2014 at 9:01 PM

GOP survey confirms Republicans have a real problem with women

The LSM and the Left have successfully portrayed the Republican establishment as being uncaring about the needs of women, the poor and public assistance programs.

That’s basically true. They really don’t give a Fluke about anyone but themselves. The basic motivation behind that is one of self-determination and personal achievement. True individualistic, free enterprise Conservatism really can’t function in any political system.

The problem with the GOP is that they’re so damn laissez faire about both economic and social issues that the Socialists have a field day enacting their policies, and spreading their ideologies.

Self determination and laissez faire certainly have their place, but sometimes Conservatives need to stand up and push back.

The real travesty, though, is that the Dems don’t give a Fluke either, but pretend to, and thereby profit off their image as the caring, safety net party…while all the time enslaving and impoverishing those they supposedly care about.

The Liberals also support an ongoing Women’s Lib agenda that breaks apart families, deifies unwed mothers, and encourages women to be little more than prostitutes, jumping from one man to another. Tell me the modern “lifestyle” of the average American female is healthier and more personally/spiritually fulfilling than even 50 years ago.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM

bflat879 on August 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The Republicans are pitiful. Those who need to change, won’t.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 9:08 PM

“When it comes to women white voters, do the arguments about contraception welfare end up putting the party on mute with those same women white voters who may like your economic social proposals, but say, ‘There’s just too many crazy white black guys who have too many crazy ideas about my reproductive system tax rates’?”

Just imagine the outage…

crrr6 on August 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

crrr6 on August 28, 2014 at 9:17 PM

What are you talking about, it gets said every day?

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

What are you talking about, it gets said every day?
Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

On TV?

crrr6 on August 28, 2014 at 9:24 PM

crrr6 on August 28, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Sure, white folks are the epitome of all that is evil and keeping other people from excelling.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Look at how these women protest the Hobby Lobbys, it’s pathetic.

bbinfl on August 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Yes, look at how these women protested an employer being able to force their religious beliefs on their employees! I mean it’s almost like they think those loser employees deserve religious freedom! What moochers…

Tlaloc on August 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Hobby Lobby never tried to force it’s religious beliefs on anyone. You, however, want to abrogate the 1st amendment rights of Hobby Lobby’s owners.

Ricard on August 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Women have a pretty good record, it seems.

urban effetist on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Such as Maggie Thatcher and Golda Meir, right?

Right?

(Starts late-night sundial)

Del Dolemonte on August 28, 2014 at 10:26 PM

The following is only from the first page. SMH.

“The ONLY possible conclusion is that everything that misogynists think about women is true.”

“The question seems to be ‘can liberty survive women?’”

“Repeal the 19th Amendment?”

“Just stupid women. Why are there so many of them?”

“No one accused women of being smart.”

“Another way of looking at that poll is that women have a real problem with identifying the reality they’re currently living in”

“Just more proof that most women are stupid. Even my wife says this.”

“Half of Americans have below average intelligence. Half of Americans are women. Coincidence?”

And special appreciation for WhatSlushfund, although I hope he/she is simply a troll:
“G’s up, hoes down. I’m telling you, we should never have given them the right to vote. There’s a reason that wasn’t done to begin with. Women need (and, though many won’t admit it, WANT) to be told what to do. If you’re not telling them what to do, society falls apart. C’mon baby, let me grab your hair and ram you from behind. That’s right, you like that don’t you. Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. Who’s your daddy? But I digress..”

jrd on August 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM

@Meople, regarding infidelity and abortion, what are your thoughts on Rep. Scott DesJarlais, R-Tenn.?

jrd on August 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

jrd on August 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Not sure what you find offensive

wearyexclusive on August 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Yes, look at how these women protested an employer being able to force their religious beliefs on their employees! I mean it’s almost like they think those loser employees deserve religious freedom! What moochers…
Tlaloc on August 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM

It is a crystal clear example of a moocher. But not just a moocher but an entitled moocher. Only an entitled moocher would think that someone else not funding for your own need (or in this case, a want) would be forcing anything on you. And if you don’t like the whole “force” application you should applaud the decision that sided with Hobby Lobby.

And feminism had quite an interesting transition ever since it was overtaken by leftists. It used to mean that a woman was/is able to take care of their own hence the whole, “we don’t need men” mantra. But since, it has only replaced the man of the sugar daddy equation with the state as their sugar daddy. That is why democrats pander to feminists and that is why they find home with one another. The symbiotic relationship has everything to do with the state.

anuts on August 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM

@wearyexclusive
Okay.

jrd on August 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

The only thing this proves is that people are getting exponentially dumber as time goes by, and it’s looking like women are hardest hit. Democrat women that is.

Diluculo on August 28, 2014 at 11:28 PM

they say the republicans do better with married women who dont have a college degree. so some would say uneducated but i got a feeling you guys will say NOT BRAINWASHED BY ACADEMIA. snort. also hello kitty is not a cat.

brushingmyhair on August 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

they say the republicans do better with married women who dont have a college degree. so some would say uneducated but i got a feeling you guys will say NOT BRAINWASHED BY ACADEMIA. snort.
brushingmyhair on August 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

You’ve only been told that a college degree is indicative of someone capable of critical thought. Probably mostly by men.

anuts on August 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM

brushingmyhair on August 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Hmmm, are these uneducated women riding the wagon or helping pull it?

Cindy Munford on August 29, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Cindy Munford on August 29, 2014 at 12:18 AM

I’m a married woman w/o a college degree….

annoyinglittletwerp on August 29, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Look it is true I was being silly in my earlier comment, but the fact remains that Democrats understand evolution.

A large majority human females want to be taken care of, even if they are career oriented, educated and make a boat load of money. It is a void that instinctually needs to be filled. So the struggle is who fills that void?

The democrats realized that if they were ever to make big government work they needed to defeat the “husband”. Why do you think democrats celebrate single mothers and single women? Why do you think they promote goofy TV dramas that turn full grown women into “girls”? Why do you think they promote gay marriage? Why do you think the public educational system is hurting boys by preventing them from becoming men? Why do democrats hate traditional marriage?

Answer: To replace husbands with big government in women’s minds as the provider, the comforter, the fixer, the hunter, and anything else you can think of.

This is why married women vote more for republicans than non-married women, and married women with children even more so vote for republicans, whereas non-married women with children are much more likely to vote democrat. The democrats have shown how effective this strategy is in the black community.

Whatever the Republican strategy, or conservative strategy, is to win women’s votes, it must return the husband as the “object” that fills the void in women’s lives.

Now the problem conservatives have had is the old tactic of Christianity is not working like it did. Democrats have managed to convert any religious reasons for the “husband” into some theocratic attempt to make women subservient and slave like to men. It does not help when people like Todd Akin (a Mike Huckabee man) come along quoting the Bible and then saying something that is biologically impossible about women. It is a bad mental image, and allows Democrats to scare women, and then have big government ride to the rescue.

Lesson: Using the Bible as a main reason a woman should have a “husband” does not work anymore. SO don’t do it. Use evidence of what fatherless homes do to children? Use facts, and more important science…dare I say it….evolution. Charles Darwin is on the “husbands” side in this battle. Also we have women’s basic instincts on our side as well. Most women, even those who do not realize it, or have been taught otherwise, find men more attractive than big cold government.

The key word being men, not boys. So it is also important to raise boys to be men again, which means getting them out of the hands of the public education system. Hence my constant pushing for school vouchers, no matter the cost, to break up the powerful public school unions and cartel.

Also the message is not putting women back in the home all the time, because women are not needed in the home all the time anymore due to technology. The message is women should have all the same opportunities as men as possible, but that women should not abandon their basic instincts, and that men are the best at filling those needs. There is nothing wrong with women being women, and men being men, because that is what makes both biologically satisfied with life. A husband is the best at fulfilling those needs based on human evolution. We are a pair bonding species, and big government can never make up for that.

In other words men will love women more than big government ever will…and marriage is the best way to make sure that is love is the strongest.

Can you imagine a GOP candidate saying that! LOL….

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 12:31 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 29, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Yep, me to! And I’ve either worked or raised kids or both, so I’ve been helping to pull the wagon of those using the safety net. The apparently never ending safety net.

Cindy Munford on August 29, 2014 at 12:35 AM

William Eaton on August 29, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Not only can I not imagine the GOP saying, I can imagine all of these women being insulted by the suggestion. I have no problem with a woman doing what she wants but I’m a little sick of the combination of “I am Woman, hear me roar”, I am a precious snowflake who must be nurtured but not by you, Buddy because you expect something in return. Yes, maybe men haven’t been raised to be men but women are equally misguided.

Cindy Munford on August 29, 2014 at 12:39 AM

Look it is true I was being silly in my earlier comment…

what? you aren’t being silly in this comment too? are you sure? cause you gotta be being a silly pants with that comment. a democratic conspiracy against husbands?

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Take that Tea Gabbers!!

Years of “War on Women” has consequences.

Ned Pepper on August 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Sure does

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
“We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it”
A physician called into a radio show and said:
“That’s the definition of a stool sample”.
That pretty well sums it up.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:42 AM

Well I was going to jump on this, but you all beat me to it! Women vote with their emotions not their brains. The exceptions occur when the bad ideas affect them directly. This is when they have families, pay taxes, own property, or a business.

Pull that section out of the poll and you will see most leaning towards the right.

That said, they are still ruled by emotions. And yes, you can trace our leftward lean to suffrage, among other factors. Good citizens have skin in the game. There aren’t enough left to save us.

archer52 on August 29, 2014 at 7:03 AM

FOUR whackjob leftist trolls in the thread now!

They’re mentally off the rails.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2014 at 8:21 AM

The Liberals also support an ongoing Women’s Lib agenda that breaks apart families, deifies unwed mothers, and encourages women to be little more than prostitutes, jumping from one man to another. Tell me the modern “lifestyle” of the average American female is healthier and more personally/spiritually fulfilling than even 50 years ago.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Not exactly. The agenda has actually slid towards Valerie Solanas-style SCUM Manifesto “Kill All Men” Radfem harpy-ism.

HikaruKitsune on August 29, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Female voters who care about the top four issues — the economy, health care, education and jobs — vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

So we finally have someone to blame for the destruction over the last six years?

If true, and I find some of the questions suspect, a majority of respondents are using pathos arguments to make political judgments.

To me, that just means our messaging and articulation sucks, because the Republican Party policies and actions don’t back up some type of misogynist agenda.

We (both men and women) have watched families destroyed, kids dreams go up in smoke, neighbors lose their homes and communities debased in a historic way. But the “alternative is worse”? Really? Can we be worse off then now because there is some anti-woman bogeyman in the closet?

Give me a break. None of the “women” in my family think like this. The participants are already predisposed to the Democrat Party because they’ve bough into the rhetoric and have not taken time to review the actual facts.

Marcus Traianus on August 29, 2014 at 9:26 AM

I’m female and I have no idea what the malfunction is with young single women. Brainwashing and lack of critical thinking and exposure to diverse viewpoints, combined with the Republicans’ inability to create governance that matters- such that both parties look exactly alike. The hope is that intelligent, articulate conservative women will be able to make the case and turn the bias around.

evergreen on August 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM

The GOP is smart to begin to address this disparity. A libertarian streak rising in the GOP may address the perception among women that the party is a monolith which is generally intolerant. Only time will tell, but time is running out.

Ha! No, Noah, libertarians will certainly not solve the gender gap. Libertarians are making the gap worse, if anything. They believe selfishness has some kind of ultimate primal value, whereas women, in contrast to libertarians, are generally more altruistic and want to care for others. As Ed pointed out the other day, the whole problem of the Republican party lies in the fact that there is too much selfishness brought about by libertarians; Republicans are even against giving away free teddy bears to small children. It’s this sort of rigidly selfish “logical” attitude that is driving away both women and true Christians.

If conservatives want to appeal more to women, they need to replace the logic of rule of law, capitalism and prudence with the logic of the heart, and that essentially means promising more free stuff to those who are suffering (that is, to minorities, women, gays, Palestinians and the handicapped).

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

What do conservatives run on? Facts.

What do liberals run on? Feelings.

What do women take into account more? Feelings.

Ain’t hard to see why they go after the voting blocs they do, folks.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Well I was going to jump on this, but you all beat me to it! Women vote with their emotions not their brains. The exceptions occur when the bad ideas affect them directly. This is when they have families, pay taxes, own property, or a business.

Pull that section out of the poll and you will see most leaning towards the right.

archer52 on August 29, 2014 at 7:03 AM

The Founders restricted voting for precisely this reason. They loved their wives and daughters, but knew d@mn well that enough snake-oil salesmen would go after women split the nation as sure as the sunrise.

Not only that but it’s darn hard to vote against your spouse year after year. Much less live in marital harmony when she subscribes to every airheaded notion under the sun, you have to pay for it in taxes, and you have almost no recourse to make her quit undermining your Biblical authority as a husband and leader at the ballot box.

These are but a FEW of the consequences of suffrage, and to Hades with the foot-stamping how it’s “not fair”.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM

The problem isn’t letting women vote. The problem is letting dependents vote.

njolsson on August 29, 2014 at 10:41 AM

So yah, let me get this straight, republicans repulsing women voters isn’t a republican problem, it’s not you guys, it’s women. Women are too emotional and irrational to be trusted to vote. And the republican women on this thread are all in too. Because of course you are exempted from femine emotions and are completely rational. But if you were really truly a good conservative woman you would abstain from voting realizing your too emotional to be trusted to vote. So yah.

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Whew! I knew this one was going to be a big thread, as it concerned women and voting…

We can debate until the cows come home whether or not giving women the right to vote has made our country better or worse. But what I think we can’t debate is that it certainly changed things, mostly in a leftward direction.

That being said, the horse has left the barn, so it is up to the GOP to figure out how to appeal to women voters. I have always found it extremely hard to believe that women would actually vote based upon something as trivial as contraception or abortion, especially when I can’t recall any republican candidate ever running on a platform of taking those things away.

The problem, as I see it, is that when it comes to issues women seem to care about, the GOP or conservative view is too nuanced for them, where the Dem view that the GOP just hates women is easier for them to consume, so the do. Much like trying to explain to black people that liberal policies are actually hurting them and that conservative policies are much more likely to help them reach their goals in the long run. Too difficult to process this information, especially since the democrats have assured them that they are the party that is looking out for them and conservatives are all racist white guys.

So, how do you reach them? Not sure, but I think republicans need to find a way to appeal to their emotions on the issues, because reason and logic don’t seem to work very well.

billboy89 on August 29, 2014 at 12:09 PM

So yah, let me get this straight, republicans repulsing women voters isn’t a republican problem, it’s not you guys, it’s women. Women are too emotional and irrational to be trusted to vote. And the republican women on this thread are all in too. Because of course you are exempted from femine emotions and are completely rational. But if you were really truly a good conservative woman you would abstain from voting realizing your too emotional to be trusted to vote. So yah.

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 12:02 PM

It’s the same logic behind raising the voting age if you are a young person (I support it as a young person).

nobar on August 29, 2014 at 12:09 PM

It’s the same logic behind raising the voting age if you are a young person (I support it as a young person).
nobar on August 29, 2014 at 12:09 PM

So that’s cool. Maybe you hit on something. Maybe the solution to this problem is a republican lead movement to take away women’s right to vote. Really doesn’t sound too implausible considering you guys track record.

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Irony alert, for all the dummies of HA.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Irony alert, for all the dummies of HA.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM

A woman calling out sexism at her workplace is irony? You’re right better redo that poll I’m sure all the women are republicans now. Snort.

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 1:40 PM

As Ed pointed out the other day, the whole problem of the Republican party lies in the fact that there is too much selfishness brought about by libertarians; Republicans are even against giving away free teddy bears to small children. It’s this sort of rigidly selfish “logical” attitude that is driving away both women and true Christians.

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

In other words, they’re driving away those who are too ignorant and too intellectually lazy to understand where these fictional/hypothetical “free” teddy bears come from. Typical of a Huckabee dolt, “generosity” with other people’s money somehow translates to “Christian charity”, concern over whether this interpretation of “charity” is a violation of liberty is “libertarian selfishness”.

fitzfong on August 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

earlgrey on August 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM

You might want to back off telling other people what to post or what terminology meets your standareds, earlgrey.

thatsafactjack on August 28, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Words have meaning thatsafactjack, and if the regressives own the language they can make it what ever they want. How do you like “hate speech” laws? Right now they use PC language to censor you. How much more ground do you want to surrender to them?

Think about how it used to be before they took over the educational system. They think long term and subversively. It works and our current police state (with alseep at the wheel and willing republicans) is the result. Is this what you want?

earlgrey on August 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM

So…women will be the destruction of America?

disa on August 29, 2014 at 4:38 PM

As Ed pointed out the other day, the whole problem of the Republican party lies in the fact that there is too much selfishness brought about by libertarians; Republicans are even against giving away free teddy bears to small children. It’s this sort of rigidly selfish “logical” attitude that is driving away both women and true Christians.

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

In other words, they’re driving away those who are too ignorant and too intellectually lazy to understand where these fictional/hypothetical “free” teddy bears come from. Typical of a Huckabee dolt, “generosity” with other people’s money somehow translates to “Christian charity”, concern over whether this interpretation of “charity” is a violation of liberty is “libertarian selfishness”.

fitzfong on August 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

That’s a fair analysis, fitzfong, though personally I’m less concerned about who bears the cost of the teddy bears than I am the unintended consequences of setting up perverse incentives.

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

True war on women

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

So yah, let me get this straight, republicans repulsing women voters isn’t a republican problem, it’s not you guys, it’s women. Women are too emotional and irrational to be trusted to vote. And the republican women on this thread are all in too. Because of course you are exempted from femine emotions and are completely rational. But if you were really truly a good conservative woman you would abstain from voting realizing your too emotional to be trusted to vote. So yah.

brushingmyhair on August 29, 2014 at 12:02 PM

A lot of young men are irrational, too. Lack of critical thinking and judgment is a widespread trait, owing to the breakdown of the family and institutionalized education. And if we had to be tested in order to vote, we’d all be better off.

evergreen on August 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM

If conservatives want to appeal more to women, they need to replace the logic of rule of law, capitalism and prudence with the logic of the heart, and that essentially means promising more free stuff to those who are suffering (that is, to minorities, women, gays, Palestinians and the handicapped).

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

If that’s what it takes then I’d rather lose elections and let the country go to ruin.

evergreen on August 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

If conservatives want to appeal more to women, they need to replace the logic of rule of law, capitalism and prudence with the logic of the heart, and that essentially means promising more free stuff to those who are suffering (that is, to minorities, women, gays, Palestinians and the handicapped).

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Get frucked, in a very bad way. You’re a waste to humanity and civilization…or, you’re a good sarcmeister.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Get frucked, in a very bad way. You’re a waste to humanity and civilization.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Oh, well. I’ve been called worse.

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 7:18 PM

If that’s what it takes then I’d rather lose elections and let the country go to ruin.

evergreen on August 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

I see you take my meaning.

Lack of critical thinking and judgment is a widespread trait, owing to the breakdown of the family and institutionalized education.

evergreen on August 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Of course, I agree with you. There’s evidence even on this site of that sort of breakdown occurring. But I think the situation is more dire than just a simple inability to perform critical thinking. An even larger problem, in my opinion, has to do with the fact that there are two competing worldviews, two mythological constructs, both consistent within themselves, both, one could say, “rational” in themselves. One is based on logic, freedom, self-reliance and enterprise; the other is based on safety, comfort, and compassion.

One needn’t suffer a breakdown in critical judgment to choose the latter worldview, complete with all its values.

Some of the important architects of modern Marxism such as Gramsci and Sorel realized that Marx’s vision of a giant battle between factory workers and everybody else wouldn’t in itself be successful, so they set about building a coalition of those they labeled the marginalized and disempowered (such as women and minorities) and adding them to the team.

My point here is that the problem is worse than simply one of a large group of people being stupid and so not being able to make intelligent judgments. There is that, but more serious is the problem of competing and contradictory visions. One of my favorite authors, Thomas Sowell, writes about this in what I consider his best book, “A Conflict of Visions.”

Burke on August 29, 2014 at 9:13 PM

The federal government is still seeking answers as to why the majority of lesbians are obese and U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill, which now totals $2.87 million.

Akzed on August 29, 2014 at 11:46 PM

This may have more to do with the fact that the GOP has no strategy and therefore no message (for anyone, never mind women).

They are only clinging on to the power they have because this administration is so incompetent in government.

But the GOP can’t even point that out. All they can do is flock to the next politically-correct (but disastrous) policy (free healthcare, free immigration, free contraception, free marriage), where their idea of success is to be thought of as “good-guys (and gals, if that’s not too sexist a term).

Unfortunately, the reality of a violent world is intruding on the domestic fantasies of our DC beltway insiders. Everyone can see we lack a government with a serious strategy.

That an opposition also without a strategy loses influence is not at all surprising, is it?

virgo on August 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM

If women were never allowed to vote or go to college, here are two things you would never hear again:

“Where have all the good men gone?”

and

“Damn, but American women are vile!”

And, as one commenter noted quite some posts ago, yes, let’s reflect on all those matriarchal societies that thrived because Peanut was allowed to decide what was best for everyone.

/C. Paglia & Her Grass Huts

thejackal on August 31, 2014 at 3:07 PM

/C. Paglia & Her Grass Huts

thejackal on August 31, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Whenever the topic of gender differences arise, my first thought is always Camille Paglia and her book of incredible genius, “Sexual Personae.” She is truly one of the two or three greatest thinkers of the last half century, at least in my opinion.

Her writings suggest, I think, why the political divisions between conservatives and liberals can never be bridged. The differences are unresolvable because they are based on the biological war between the sexes. Males are “wired” to be constrained thinkers; women are “wired” to be unconstrained.

Burke on August 31, 2014 at 7:13 PM

. The differences are unresolvable because they are based on the biological war between the sexes. Males are “wired” to be constrained thinkers; women are “wired” to be unconstrained.

Burke on August 31, 2014 at 7:13 PM

And the Democrats seek to slash every last cultural restraint put on women, religious or not, with the full knowledge that such a woman ‘liberated’ has the IQ of a lobotomized hamster and is a Grade-A sucker for every kind of tomfoolery they’re selling. In the absence of externally-imposed boundaries (due to our sinful nature) something will fill the void. And not something good.

As I once said in an argument with a petulant young lady: “Those ‘old fashioned rules’ are to keep you from getting an incurable STD or getting raped and killed after walking down the wrong street with a cell phone and crossed fingers. They are not just ‘for your own good’, they are like seatbelts. They save your life.”

LawfulGood on August 31, 2014 at 7:24 PM

My wife — after decades of disgust with politics — was inspired to engage and learn when our daughters became proud fire-breathing Christian conservatives. She’s finally on board at age 50 and stunned at the ignorance of the rest of the sisterhood. This is why we can’t win women in their 20s.

Jaibones on August 28, 2014 at 5:47 PM

The ONLY thing that can consistently turn young women conservative once they’re outside their parents influence, possibly outside of getting assaulted by something that goes “muddafukka” and has curly hair, is marriage and raising a family.

I’ve been politically active for years and I have heard NOTHING…not ONE SINGLE SOLITARY THING…that was so demonstrated to turn foolish hussy liberals into modest ladies on a repeated basis.

It didn’t make sense until my pastor explained it: it’s what He literally designed women for from the ground up from their motherly instincts and hormones and their very nature design to feel more than think.

LawfulGood on August 31, 2014 at 7:32 PM

This may have more to do with the fact that the GOP has no strategy and therefore no message (for anyone, never mind women). …Unfortunately, the reality of a violent world is intruding on the domestic fantasies of our DC beltway insiders. Everyone can see we lack a government with a serious strategy.

virgo on August 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM

At one time, long ago, there was a distinct role division between men and women. Women nurtured the family and men did other stuff (such as defend the home). However, society outgrew a need for men and their “roles” because as everyone discovered, all we really need is compassion and a government to enforce that compassion. Being a man with traditional responsibilities for guy stuff (like defending the home, creating wealth and using cold logic to define boundaries) became politically incorrect.

Republicans essentially promote traditional male concerns and that’s created the modern dilemma: now that we as society have outgrown the male, Republicans have become politically incorrect. That’s why Republican leaders are forced to offer free stuff as you point out, to coax back the votes they need. It may be undignified, but it’s all Republicans have left.

Burke on August 31, 2014 at 7:48 PM

The ONLY thing that can consistently turn young women conservative once they’re outside their parents influence… is marriage and raising a family.

LawfulGood on August 31, 2014 at 7:32 PM

You might be right, LawfulGood. This is similar to the view I’ve heard that a young man becomes more conservative once he has a job and is suddenly forced to worry about taxes. It’s based on the idea that there’s really no way to reason a person into becoming a conservative; it’s all hormones and life experience.

However, I know plenty of women who have children who remain staunch liberals, so obviously your method of encouraging women to become mothers isn’t foolproof. Likewise, I know lots of men who work and have to worry about taxes yet remain liberal as well. So that method isn’t foolproof either.

If it’s really all hormones and self-interest, then I believe conservatives are doomed. Self-interest tells us that it’s smart to wait to get free stuff from the government; and as for hormones, aside from the fact that having babies is less common than it ever was, there’s also the point that women are naturally wired to care for and nurture others, whether they are mothers are not, and since liberalism is all based on caring and nurturing, every election should from now on end in Democratic victory.

Burke on September 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Alternate Headline: Women have a real problem with reality

Wine_N_Dine on September 2, 2014 at 11:28 AM

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