DNC spokesman: We condemn Rand Paul’s “blame America” worldview

posted at 4:41 pm on August 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Andrew Stiles, one of the many fun things about a Clinton vs. Paul election in 2016 (it’d be ferociously nasty, for starters) is the bizarro-world feel that the campaign’s foreign policy debate will have. Benjy Sarlin says this new DNC statement slamming Paul’s op-ed on ISIS “could have been written word for word by the RNC about John Kerry in 2004.”

“It’s disappointing that Rand Paul, as a Senator and a potential presidential candidate, blames America for all the problems in the world, while offering reckless ideas that would only alienate us from the global community.

“Unfortunately, this is nothing new for Paul. Last week he criticized American policy to the president of another country on foreign soil. This week he’s blaming the Obama Administration for another nation’s civil war. That type of “blame America” rhetoric may win Paul accolades at a conference of isolationists but it does nothing to improve our standing in the world. In fact, Paul’s proposals would make America less safe and less secure.

“Simply put, if Rand Paul had a foreign policy slogan, it would be – The Rand Paul Doctrine: Blame America. Retreat from the World.”

That’s the sound of a party that’s starting bright and early on making sure the public knows its likely 2016 nominee is a hawk. It’s also a preview of Democratic messaging against Paul: The phrase “blame America” appears three times in three very short paragraphs, a cue to hawkish conservatives who are familiar with this term from yesterday’s battles that they might consider crossing the aisle if Paul wins the nomination.

Here’s a taste of Paul’s op-ed, which is behind a reg wall at the Journal. His main point is that America would have been to blame for ISIS’s takeover of Syria if we had ousted Assad as Obama wished, but yeah, there’s some blame for the White House for the situation as it sits too:

The administration’s goal has been to degrade Assad’s power, forcing him to negotiate with the rebels. But degrading Assad’s military capacity also degrades his ability to fend off the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham. Assad’s government recently bombed the self-proclaimed capital of ISIS in Raqqa, Syria…

This is not to say the U.S. should ally with Assad. But we should recognize how regime change in Syria could have helped and emboldened the Islamic State, and recognize that those now calling for war against ISIS are still calling for arms to factions allied with ISIS in the Syrian civil war. We should realize that the interventionists are calling for Islamic rebels to win in Syria and for the same Islamic rebels to lose in Iraq. While no one in the West supports Assad, replacing him with ISIS would be a disaster…

We aided those who’ve contributed to the rise of the Islamic State. The CIA delivered arms and other equipment to Syrian rebels, strengthening the side of the ISIS jihadists. Some even traveled to Syria from America to give moral and material support to these rebels even though there had been multiple reports some were allied with al Qaeda.

If Obama had gotten his wish for regime change in Syria, says Paul, the new regime would have ended up being ISIS. That’s his best point in an otherwise unpersuasive op-ed. For one thing, while O did call for Assad to go at one point, last year’s abortive bombing wasn’t a serious attempt to achieve that. The goal there was to bloody Assad’s nose for using WMD; had Obama not stupidly once said that chemical weapons were a “red line” and then felt obliged to enforce it, he likely never would have threatened to hit Assad in the first place. The proposed airstrikes weren’t designed to knock him out, just to teach him a lesson about gassing people. That’s the Obama way, as we’re seeing now vis-a-vis ISIS — hit your enemy hard enough to make a point but not hard enough to really hurt him.

Also, it’s not true that interventionists are calling for “the same Islamic rebels” to win in Syria and lose in Iraq, as if Obama and McCain wanted to arm ISIS. The whole point of the interventionists’ flirtation with the Free Syrian Army was to find a counterweight to ISIS among the Sunni opposition. That’s always seemed unlikely to me, but infeasibility doesn’t mean the underlying intention was malign. Phrasing it as Paul did feels like a cheap applause line aimed at fans of his dad’s who love finding moral equivalence between the White House and the worst jihadi degenerates. The fact is, despite Paul’s attempt here to portray Assad as a stalwart line of defense against ISIS, it was Assad himself who set ISIS on the path to supremacy in Sunni areas. He went easy on them at first knowing that they’d overrun the less fanatic Sunnis in the Syrian opposition and that, once they did, the west would have no choice but to side with him against them. There’d be no “moderate” Sunni partner left to work with. The interventionists wanted to avoid that outcome, however hamhanded their plans were for doing so.

In any event, notwithstanding some CIA efforts to prop up the “moderates” in Syria, it’s clearly the non-interventionist approach that’s prevailed there — in which case, what is Paul grumbling about? Also, Stiles notes that he can’t find anything in Paul’s op-ed proposing what we should do now to contain ISIS. I can’t either. What’s the plan? Let’s say we withdraw all U.S. air assets and cut off weapons supplies to Baghdad and Irbil. Yay, we’re out! What then? If ISIS overruns an undersupplied Kurdistan, do we hope that Turkey, Iran, and Saudi Arabia will step in to push ISIS back? A massive regional war is one way to deal with this, I guess. What’s the plan in the meantime for averting the energy crisis here at home after ISIS seizes Kurdish oil fields? If even sending arms to allies is off the table for fear that they might fall into enemy hands, I’m not sure what levers we’re talking about. Good luck with sanctions.


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Weird world, indeed.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 4:43 PM

HAHA!. But he did not blame America. He blamed Hillary. Unless Hillary became America while I was sleeping, we got ourselves a panic.

coolrepublica on August 28, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Wow. Bizarro world.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 28, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Question his patriotism, go for it.

rob verdi on August 28, 2014 at 4:45 PM

“It’s disappointing that Rand Paul, as a Senator and a potential presidential candidate, blames America for all the problems in the world, while offering reckless ideas that would only alienate us from the global community.

That was Barry’s entire 2008 campaign.

M240H on August 28, 2014 at 4:46 PM

LOLOLOLOLOL

Good Lt on August 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

DNC spokesman: We condemn Rand Paul’s “blame America” worldview

Citing copyright infringement?

PackerBronco on August 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

There’s so much irony here I feel like I went to the gym.

SteveInRTP on August 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM

The more I see the way the parties are so concerned about elections and not the welfare of our nation, I’m more inclined than ever to say let it burn. I guess we just weren’t ever going to keep the republic. All of the checks and balances put in by the framers have been watered down by selfish jerks looking to maintain their power and ability to lord it over the masses.

Deano1952 on August 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Rand Paul has been consistent.
The chicken hawks are the problem (Hillary, Bush and so on.

Assad should have never been weakened in the first place.
Dictators know what’s best for their people in the Middle East.
They keep the barbarians at bay.

weedisgood on August 28, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Imperialist warmongering and recklessly entangling America in the internal affairs of a sovereign foreign nation is now cool again in liberal circles.

“Blood for oil! Kill the little brown people!” they’ll be screaming on the protest lines outside the RNC convention.

Bishop on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Also, it’s not true that interventionists are calling for “the same Islamic rebels” to win in Syria and lose in Iraq, as if Obama and McCain wanted to arm ISIS.

Hawks were calling for American weapons to be poured into Syria, into the hands of Bashaar al-Assad’s opponents. American weapons were in fact poured into Syria, and Iraq.

Then those weapons ended up in the hands of Islamic extremists.

Surprise!!

Except it really surprises nobody who thought about this. The guys most willing to shed blood ended up with all the tools for shedding blood.

One more example of foreign policy gone sideways, in a region we really have no business getting involved with…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Good job, Rand. Sow some doubt seeds in Democrat the pacifist loon vote.

rhombus on August 28, 2014 at 4:54 PM

One more example of foreign policy gone sideways, in a region we really have no business getting involved with…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Very well said!

weedisgood on August 28, 2014 at 4:56 PM

It’s disappointing that Rand Paul, as a Senator and a potential presidential candidate, blames America for all the problems in the world, while offering reckless ideas that would only alienate us from the global community.

See, I would think actually voting for the Iraq War was a reckless idea that alienated us from the global community.

Wouldn’t you agree, Hillary…?

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 4:57 PM

The proposed airstrikes weren’t designed to knock him out, just to teach him a lesson about gassing people. That’s the Obama way, as we’re seeing now vis-a-vis ISIS — hit your enemy hard enough to make a point but not hard enough to really hurt him.

The Lypsynka of Libya was unavailable for comment.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

The administration’s goal has been to degrade Assad’s power, forcing him to negotiate with the rebels. But degrading Assad’s military capacity also degrades his ability to fend off the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham. Assad’s government recently bombed the self-proclaimed capital of ISIS in Raqqa, Syria…

I hate to agree with somebody nicknamed “weedisgood” (just kidding!), but when the population consists primarily of barbarian devil-worshippers, then a strongman is perhaps the least bad option. And Obama’s foreign policy in the Middle East is all about overturning the established order and creating chaos. With such a consistent policy and outcome, you have to conclude that Obama wants the crazies in charge.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Well, Hillary does have more testosterone flowing through her than any 10 men.

formwiz on August 28, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Hawks were calling for American weapons to be poured into Syria, into the hands of Bashaar al-Assad’s opponents. American weapons were in fact poured into Syria, and Iraq.

ISIS is getting lots of support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. If the CIA never sent a single bullet into Syria, they still wouldn’t want for supplies. They’ve got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. Let me stress again: Syria is an example of America *refusing* to intervene to any great extent. Rand’s trying to shoehorn it into his anti-interventionist narrative because apparently that’s how he sees all foreign policy problems. Our footprint is always too heavy, even when it’s comparatively light.

Anyway, what now? President Paul’s not going to call pressers just to complain about what hawks wanted but failed to do, right?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM

The worm turns as the world’s stomachs churn. The enemy of today becomes the ally of tomorrow. Re WWI and WWII – and the VN war, by God. My enemy cuts off heads, while my ‘ally’ just imprisons ‘them’. A ‘moderate’ today is made radical by politico/religious shenanigans going back hundreds of years, exacerbated by tribalism and motivated by seeming powerlessness driven by a desire to overcome or marginalize those with whom the ‘power structure’ disagrees, and vice versa. Sound familiar? The nature of man is universal. Thank God for our Constitution – as long as it lasts.

vnvet on August 28, 2014 at 5:05 PM

What? Isn’t that what the left has been doing for years?

crosshugger on August 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Paul’s ISIS essay nailed every point on target and the interesting thing is that Alex Jones has been saying exactly the same thing for months as Rand. And they’re both right.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM

I hate to agree with somebody nicknamed “weedisgood” (just kidding!), but when the population consists primarily of barbarian devil-worshippers, then a strongman is perhaps the least bad option. And Obama’s foreign policy in the Middle East is all about overturning the established order and creating chaos. With such a consistent policy and outcome, you have to conclude that Obama wants the crazies in charge.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

ISIS would even dare think about going into Syria if Assad was at full strength.

And don’t feel sorry about agreeing with me.
My medication is no different from any other medicine prescribed by a doctor.

weedisgood on August 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM

“Unfortunately, this is nothing new for Paul. Last week he criticized American policy to the president of another country on foreign soil. This week he’s blaming the Obama Administration for another nation’s civil war. That type of “blame America” rhetoric may win Paul accolades at a conference of isolationists but it does nothing to improve our standing in the world. In fact, Paul’s proposals would make America less safe and less secure.

You can’t make this crazy stuff up.

Hey, Democrats. Go see Jimmuh Carter, who actually criticized America and the sitting American president while on foreign soil. But that was okay, right? Because he was criticizing Boooosh.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM

ISIS wouldn’t*

weedisgood on August 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Also, it’s not true that interventionists are calling for “the same Islamic rebels” to win in Syria and lose in Iraq, as if Obama and McCain wanted to arm ISIS. The whole point of the interventionists’ flirtation with the Free Syrian Army was to find a counterweight to ISIS among the Sunni opposition. That’s always seemed unlikely to me, but infeasibility doesn’t mean the underlying intention was malign.

You say it’s not true then you go on to make the case that it’s true. You really think the Free Syrian Army wasn’t going to hook up and become part of ISIS? LOL

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Paul’s op-ed proposing what we should do now to contain ISIS. I can’t either. What’s the plan?

Um, you wipe them out. Are you just playing dumb here because you don’t like Paul?

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:10 PM

CNN’s Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr, alarmed: On Obama’s “we have no strategy” line: “Let me be very clear, ISIS heard all of this.”

— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) August 28, 2014

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM

I hate to agree with somebody nicknamed “weedisgood” (just kidding!), but when the population consists primarily of barbarian devil-worshippers, then a strongman is perhaps the least bad option. And Obama’s foreign policy in the Middle East is all about overturning the established order and creating chaos. With such a consistent policy and outcome, you have to conclude that Obama wants the crazies in charge.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Creating chaos with an uncontrollable but awesomely funded-by-us Army is what the globalists do best. A false flag ISIS attack WILL be allowed on our soil and our government will know about it and not stop it.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM

It is not pretty when a Hope & Change addict has withdrawal symptoms.

If you think this is weird, it is only the start of the D’s realizing that they will have to get along without more of Obama… and the 180 degree turnarounds are going to be head-snapping for the D’s.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM

he criticized American policy to the president of another country on foreign soil

Self-awareness much?

What about Saint Barry and his world apology tours?

mudskipper on August 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM

So the problem is that Rand Paul’s foreign policy strategy is the same as Barack Obama’s? I thought Obama won a Nobel prize for that!

Madcap_Magician on August 28, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Creating chaos with an uncontrollable but awesomely funded-by-us Army is what the globalists do best. A false flag ISIS attack WILL be allowed on our soil and our government will know about it and not stop it.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM

With the way our border is (not) controlled, there’s no way our government could know about any reasonably competent upcoming terror attack, false flag or true flag.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Alex Jones has been saying exactly the same thing for months as Rand. And they’re both right.

Please go on. Any early predictions on what the ISIS false-flag attack will look like?

Are we all headed for FEMA camps afterwards or something worse?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

…Are we all headed for FEMA camps afterwards or something worse?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Nah, we’re headed towards Banana Republic status, without the bananas.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Please go on. Any early predictions on what the ISIS false-flag attack will look like?

Are we all headed for FEMA camps afterwards or something worse?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Eh, mocking tone aside, probably your standard dirty nuke in a city like Obama publicly worried about months ago. Same thing Rick Perry and Sheriff Joe have been saying in the last few weeks about ISIS sneaking across. Are you going to mock them too for their opinion? The government doesn’t even have to know the specific details of an attack. They already know terrorists are sneaking across and yet the border stays open. Our open border is not being treated as a serious issue because they want chaos inside our country just as with the illegals. It wasn’t me that said “never let a crisis go to waste.”

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Rand Paul criticized the foreign policy of the Federal government and the last time I checked the Federal government isn’t America.

antifederalist on August 28, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Nah, we’re headed towards Banana Republic status, without the bananas.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Allah apparently isn’t taking the open border issue seriously if he can crack jokes about it.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Are we all headed for FEMA camps afterwards or something worse?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Hey, I’m commenting from a FEMA camp right now. I’m under one of the prison shacks, with Resistance WiFi. Plus, I can catch up on the Talking Dead from down here.

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 5:30 PM

must have been in the twilight zone, I don’t remember the Rand Paul apologize tour, I do remember it belonging to someone else

RonK on August 28, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Maybe we need a BBQ Rib Republic, I’d be cool with that.

Bishop on August 28, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Allah apparently isn’t taking the open border issue seriously if he can crack jokes about it.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Well, you have to admit Alex Jones is a soft target.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Joke about FEMA camps but ignore the articles showing that they think returning vets and patriots are the greatest threat to the country. Ignore the entire bases that are fake empty cities the military is using for practicing domestic control operations. Just pretend all that doesn’t exist. The government is your friend.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Well, you have to admit Alex Jones is a soft target.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM

But if you have been listening to what he’s been saying recently, he’s been spot on with his opinions. The “kook” accusations are mostly the same smears they use against Rush that take quotes out of context and outright lie about what he said. I don’t agree with either Rush or Alex 100% of the time but they are both pro-tea party to the core and love liberty.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Our open border is not being treated as a serious issue because they want chaos inside our country just as with the illegals. It wasn’t me that said “never let a crisis go to waste.”

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:27 PM

It isn’t just the open border but the tunnels the cartels have been putting under it, as well. The size of a few of them are more than enough to allow a ‘suitcase nuke’ or dirty bomb in without leaving a surface radiation trail.

I can think of a couple of other ways to do just as much damage via a simple hijacking of a commercial vessel, as well. Stowaways on ships aren’t just the poor and tired not wanting to swim to our shores but are also terrorists casing the best way to deliver a real hard hit to the US… and we STILL do not have 100% check of them and probably never will.

It would be a heckuva thing to wake up one morning and find a couple of cities missing from the map.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Anyway, what now? President Paul’s not going to call pressers just to complain about what hawks wanted but failed to do, right?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM

First of all, I like the sound of that… President Paul. Has a really nice ring to it, even 27 months out from the election.

Second, he has said airstrikes are on the table. While he excoriated people for sending arms into Syria, he notable did not (I don’t think, at least) ruled out aid to the Kurds. Hell, he even held up dictatorial models, like that of Assad (and, I’ll note, like that of Saddam Hussein) as possibly the least bad of a range of bad options. It’s not like he isn’t presenting some sort of foreign policy, catch-as-catch-can though it might be. Once again, at least three months out from when he will even consider throwing his hat in the ring.

But your arse when it comes to the US laying blood and treasure on the line, he’s going to require some kind of tangible national interest, at least more tangible than ending tyranny in the world and making the ME safe for democracy. Which is more than the last two POTUS can say.

And more than, I dare say, Frau Pantsuit can say…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM

The DNC now sounds like HotAir/FreeRepublic neoconservatives. Lovely.

TheDriver on August 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Well, most of the time I prefer to think about actual arguments than the qualifications or identity or the persons taking the position. So I don’t really want to go off on an extended discussion of Jones.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Please go on. Any early predictions on what the ISIS false-flag attack will look like?

Are we all headed for FEMA camps afterwards or something worse?

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM

We’ll be in the FEMA camp kitchens roasting the Bilderbergers’ dead gold-encrusted baby entrée and serving as juicebox taste-testers for the children of the global elite. We can’t have the children of the Neo-Cons, Israel Firsters, Bilderbergers, Socialists, NWOer’s, Tri-Lateralists, CFRer’s, FEMA Camp Guards, Chemtrail Pilots, Vaccine Scientists, Secret Water Fluorinators, Black Helicopter Pilots, False-Flag Planners, MK-ULTRA Practitioners, Paid Propagandists, CIA/MI6/DGSE/Mossad Operatives, and Shape-Shifting Lizard People ‘turning gay,’ can we?

Have These Two Ever Been Seen Together In The Same Room???

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM

We can’t have the children of the Neo-Cons, Israel Firsters, Bilderbergers, Socialists, NWOer’s, Tri-Lateralists, CFRer’s, FEMA Camp Guards, Chemtrail Pilots, Vaccine Scientists, Secret Water Fluorinators, Black Helicopter Pilots, False-Flag Planners, MK-ULTRA Practitioners, Paid Propagandists, CIA/MI6/DGSE/Mossad Operatives, and Shape-Shifting Lizard People ‘turning gay,’ can we?

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM

For some reason, that inspired me to look up this old classic…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 5:54 PM

It isn’t just the open border but the tunnels the cartels have been putting under it, as well. The size of a few of them are more than enough to allow a ‘suitcase nuke’ or dirty bomb in without leaving a surface radiation trail.

I can think of a couple of other ways to do just as much damage via a simple hijacking of a commercial vessel, as well. Stowaways on ships aren’t just the poor and tired not wanting to swim to our shores but are also terrorists casing the best way to deliver a real hard hit to the US… and we STILL do not have 100% check of them and probably never will.

It would be a heckuva thing to wake up one morning and find a couple of cities missing from the map.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 5:42 PM

And yet when you make a rational argument like that, people like Allah laugh it off as a conspiracy theory. It boggles the mind.

And when it happens, they will move fast to blame a patriot or the whole tea party. Watch and see.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM

That was Barry’s entire 2008 campaign.

M240H on August 28, 2014 at 4:46 PM

BINGO!

Mark Boabaca on August 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Well, most of the time I prefer to think about actual arguments than the qualifications or identity or the persons taking the position. So I don’t really want to go off on an extended discussion of Jones.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM

That’s a fair position. It’s the same reason I listen to both (and Michael Savage when I get a chance). More info and different angles allows for a more informed opinion.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:58 PM

‘Paulsamic Vinegar’ Mom: Ron Paul Supporters Spray Vinegar at the Sky to Fight ‘Chemtrails’…I’m Not Kidding

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:58 PM

While it at least has the benefit of a clever headline (something all to often lacking in the anti-Paul hysterics), I have never understood the issue of “chemtrails”. And yes, I have actually known some Paulestinians who bought into… I’m not even sure what they bought into, other than it is bad, and comes out of an airplane.

And I’m not absolutely sure about the airplane part…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Here’s another classic:

‘Paulsamic Vinegar’ Mom: Ron Paul Supporters Spray Vinegar at the Sky to Fight ‘Chemtrails’…I’m Not Kidding

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:58 PM

And yet, 535 random chemtrail fighting Ron Paul supporters would probably do a better job running the country than our jokers.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Seems really strange hearing this from a DNC spokesman, considering their history.

Getting involved in Syria, was always a dubious proposition. Assad was a tinpot dictator we owed no particular loyalty to, and most of the rebels were linked to Al Qaeda. Neither side was worth intervening for, except maybe to help both sides wipe each other out. Even if you grant that they hoped to steer the rebellion to those elements that were NOT linked to Al Qaeda, there was little reason to think it would be successful.

But the intervention that has destabilized the Middle East now is all the work of the Democrats, and Rand Paul is an idiot for shifting the focus to Republicans. It was the “Arab Spring” that encouraged rebellions and overthrows of stable governments in Egypt, Syria, and Libya. And that bit of genius came from the Obama administration.

No, the reason Rand Paul talks about the Republicans is so he can blame “both sides” and play the “Look-how-evenhanded-I-am” ploy.

We can’t be the world’s policemen, but neither can we pretend that what happens abroad doesn’t concern us. We’re a world power — THE world power, at the moment — ever since World War 2. That’s why we keep bumping into Islam. They want to expand. They want to regain their former glory as the preeminent world power. Guess who’s in the way.

Isolationism is a false hope. We can’t roll back the clock, and it wouldn’t make a difference if we did. We are already in the bullseye of the terrorists, and the sooner we accept that, the better.

As a world power, there will be enemies that we work against, and allies we defend. Kaddhafy was an enemy for over 30 years, and a sponsor of terror. But when he decides to renounce terrorism and make nice with the US, then we throw him to the wolves?

Or foreign policy since World War 2 has been focused on keeping the world stable so we don’t have to fight another existential conflict. In just a few years, Obama has undone that, taking stable — if undesirable — monarchies in the Middle East and encouraging them to be overthrown in a naive hope that whatever ne government that forms will be better.

THIS is the reason for the development of ISIS. The withdrawal of troops from Iraq before they were really stable simply made Iraq an easy target.

Obama’s mishandling of foreign policy, and of the economy, and overreach of executive power, means that we finally — FINALLY – have a president that will go down in history as worse than Carter and Buchanan.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 28, 2014 at 6:04 PM

‘Paulsamic Vinegar’ Mom: Ron Paul Supporters Spray Vinegar at the Sky to Fight ‘Chemtrails’…I’m Not Kidding

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:58 PM

And frankly, given the GOP had a candidate with a Tardasil moment, the nutty beliefs of some fringe supporters doesn’t seem all that critical…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Paul is trying to shift the political landscape in order to entrench the idea that intervening in other countries is somehow a boogyeman neocon plot. Most rational conservatives that i have spoken to over the years were strongly against Obama’s mid-east wars and involving ourselves in Syria.That doesn’t mean conservatives agree with the Paul ideology, just that they are rational in their outlook. He is trying to use the disaster of the O administration to push his fathers ideology onto the republican party. Every situation deserves its own scrutiny. Not simply a blanket isolationist response, and then crafting/making up a reason for it.

golembythebay on August 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

And frankly, given the GOP had a candidate with a Tardasil moment, the nutty beliefs of some fringe supporters doesn’t seem all that critical…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 6:05 PM

You do know that I’m not a Republican, doncha?

I’m a libertarian…just not a (Ron)Paulistinian. I like Rand. His dad is nuttier than a fruitcake.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM

DNC spokesman: We condemn Rand Paul’s “blame America” worldview

I agree with them, but the DNC has absolutely zero credibility when it comes to anger over blaming America first.

Stoic Patriot on August 28, 2014 at 6:17 PM

So, this douche nozzle simultaneously denigrates Rand Paul as well as Obama all in one sentence. Cool. I’d never vote for either anyway, or any pensi sucking liberal progressive fascist islamic loving piece of garbage.

The only liberal I’d ever vote for would be able to fit in my garbage disposal, then it’d be a moot point.

Diluculo on August 28, 2014 at 6:18 PM

And when it happens, they will move fast to blame a patriot or the whole tea party. Watch and see.

SirGawain on August 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM

They will have to move faster than the speed at which ISIS or some other similar organization will seek to claim credit for their beloved stillborn caliphate. al Qaeda, at least, knew when to shut up… these newer, more vicious types have no self-restraint at all, so the MFM, Elites and all of them will have to move faster than the savages… at least those of the MFM, Elites, etc. that are still alive. Cowardice will spur them on to blame anyone but those claiming credit. By then, however, it will be too late and the war will be here.

Things get really messy then.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Here’s another classic:

‘Paulsamic Vinegar’ Mom: Ron Paul Supporters Spray Vinegar at the Sky to Fight ‘Chemtrails’…I’m Not Kidding

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Some classic presidential election bullsh**, yeah.

Some random dude’s blog. Posts a YouTube video, and pretends it represents Ron Paul supporters. Anyone can play that silly game with any supporters of any candidate, they all have dumb supporters on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

TheDriver on August 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

TheDriver on August 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

It’s my blog, idiot. And, if you want more crazy shit from Ron Paul and the Paulistinians, I have tonnes of it.

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Let’s see – this blog loves Romney, loves Chris Christie, doesn’t
support Rand Paul.

Just making sure I am keeping score correctly!

I must say I am pleasantly surprised at all the comments that
get it regarding what Rand Paul says or did not say, what Obama
and Hillary did or did not say or do, etc.

You know who must be very disappointed.

Amjean on August 28, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Rand Paul and his father are both frauds and RINOs. They need to be run out of the GOP. The represent everything wrong with the Republican Party!

Current headline: Ron Paul: Government Had Foreknowledge of 9/11 Terror Attacks

Guess what…Bill Clinton should step up and take total responsibility for 9-11. He turned his back and closed his eyes. Hillary will do the same.

All of these people are corrupt, frauds and out for personal gain. I am sick to death of today’s political scene.

DOES ANYONE REPRESENT AMERICANS ANY MORE????

Yes, I am mad as hell….I want my country back.

phoebe1 on August 28, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Syria is an example of America *refusing* to intervene to any great extent.

Allahpundit on August 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM

HA is promoting the Obama and Hillary foreign policy, awesome!!! chicken hawk neocons apparently choose war over political party…

Hillary wins in a landslide!

burserker on August 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM

funny how every neocon on this board equates Rand with his father, but Bush and W get a pass for their foreign policy failures

burserker on August 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM

burserker on August 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM

all these arguments about Rands current foreign policy opinion is all garbage because he is lying about his true feelings, he is a blanket isolationist like his father and tries to use current events to sway people into his worldview. He went around for months giving speeches to christian groups about the plight of ME christians in order to shore up that voting base and trying to tie that into cutting all foreign aid

what happened when they actually started getting massacred by ISIS? he dithered and mumbled that we shouldn’t get involved, the whole christian shtick was a ploy to suck people into his ideology. I don’t like being swindled

golembythebay on August 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I don’t like being swindled

golembythebay on August 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Clearly, you prefer being the goniff…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Clearly, you prefer being the goniff…

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM

last year at the values voters summit:

“Across the globe, Christians are under attack almost as if we lived in the Middle Ages or we lived under early pagan Roman rule…This administration does nothing to stop it and it can be argued that it is giving aid and comfort to those who tolerate these crimes.”

a few weeks ago, as christians and non-muslims were being massacred :

Paul eventually addressed the issue, telling the Campbellsville Chamber of Commerce in Kentucky that he has “mixed feelings about it

golembythebay on August 28, 2014 at 10:29 PM

DNC spokesman: We condemn Rand Paul’s “blame America” worldview

Oh, so to what foreign leader to Paul bow to this time? I swear…

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 28, 2014 at 10:40 PM

And yet, 535 random chemtrail fighting Ron Paul supporters would probably do a better job running the country than our jokers.

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Ayep. And that “whump” you just heard was his strawman falling over.

LawfulGood on August 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM

That type of “blame America” rhetoric may win Paul accolades at a conference of isolationists but it does nothing to improve our standing in the world.

Well, now we know where Allahpunit gets his talking points when he is trashing Rand Paul and other Libertarians – straight from the lying mouths of the DNC. I suspected as much.

AP has a real problem with history too as he seems to think our meddling in the Middle East only goes back to the first Gulf War. AP is either a liar or a moron. Personally, I think he/she/it is both. He conveniently ignores the fact that in 1953 our CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a puppet known as the Shah. Our interference in the internal affair of sovereign governments around the world is much older than that and many of those people are still pissed about as we would be if other governments did that to us.

Rand Paul, thinks we should trade with other countries while maintaining a strong defense. And liars like AP continue to lie about his ideas and how our meddling has caused so many of the problems we now face.

Allahpundit – lying shill for the DNC.

earlgrey on August 29, 2014 at 3:10 PM