Alison Lundergan Grimes channels Patches O’Houlihan on campaign trail

posted at 6:01 pm on August 28, 2014 by Matt Vespa

Alison Lundergan Grimes, the Democratic Senate candidate for Kentucky, seems to be adopting the five D’s of dodgeball on the campaign trail: dodge, duck, dip, dive, and…dodge. Nevertheless, she’s running in a statistical dead heat against Republican incumbent Sen. Mitch McConnell. Yet, I’m sure Mr. McConnell was feeling a lot better after the Kentucky Farm Bureau Forum, where Grimes had a less-than-stellar performance, coming off as “rehearsed,” with answers that sounded too much like talking points. As a result, she’s resorted to ducking more debates with Mitch (via NRO):

The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Alison Lundergan Grimes said Tuesday that a scheduling conflict would prevent her from agreeing to a September 5 debate at WHAS-TV,” Joe Arnold wrote. “The campaign of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had accepted WHAS-TV’s debate compromise proposal one day earlier, explaining that September 5, one of the dates proposed by the television station, is ‘the only date we have available.’”

Grimes also declined to attend a debate hosted by another local outlet, WDRB, after McConnell accepted the invitation. It’s true that Grimes has agreed to participate in an October 13 debate, but, from the beginning of the race, McConnell has been far more eager to have a direct confrontation. He invited her to three Lincoln-Douglas-style debates with no audience in the room. They would have taken place throughout the summer, had she accepted.

Grimes refused, saying, according to the Associated Press, that “she wants an audience and debates in September or October when more people will be paying attention to the election.”

Yet, this isn’t the first time Grimes has employed evasive maneuvers during the campaign. Recently, she ducked questions about whether she received a possibly illegal in-kind campaign contribution from her father’s company relating to her tour bus; she’s allegedly renting it at under market prices.  When asked about it by local news affiliates at Kentucky’s 51st Annual Ham Breakfast, Grimes simply said she was “excited to be at the annual ham breakfast” and looked forward to the 500 lbs. of eggs and ham that would be served.

On immigration, the border crisis is a national emergency, with tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors heading towards the United States. How should we deal with that issue? Would Grimes support President Obama’s $3.7 billion package to address the issue? Well, we don’t know not exactly. She dodged the question, as reported by Sam Youngman of the Lexington-Herald Leader last July:

Pressed on whether she would vote for the $3.7 billion supplemental, Grimes repeated her oft-used line that she is “going to assess everything when I’m in the United States Senate in the light of ‘is it good for Kentucky?’”

When asked whether the proposed funding was good for Kentucky, Grimes responded: “In terms of immigration reform, I think … earned pathway to citizenship and a secure border is much needed, not just for Kentucky but for the entire nation.”

Grimes was asked again, specifically, about the $3.7 billion Obama requested.

“Again, the bill that came out of the Senate, I strongly supported and I will continue to monitor the legislation that is before Congress and hope that Mitch McConnell won’t stand in the way of reform, especially much-needed reform and earned pathway to citizenship helping our farmers here in Kentucky,” Grimes said.

On the issue of Obamacare, Ms. Grimes has again avoided laying out her position.

Democratic Senate candidate Alison Lundergan Grimes on Wednesday twice refused to say whether she would have voted for President Barack Obama’s signature health care law.

Asked two times whether she’d have voted for the 2010 overhaul, the Kentucky Democrat who is challenging Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told The Associated Press: “I, when we are in the United States Senate, will work to fix the Affordable Care Act.”

Grimes added: “I believe the politically motivated response you continue to see from Mitch McConnell in terms of repeal, root and branch, is not in reality or keeping … with what the facts are here in Kentucky.”

With the Keystone Pipeline, it’s the same old game of dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge. MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough described her as “twisting in the wind” on this issue.

I can see why Grimes probably doesn’t want to debate McConnell until October 13; she has some homework to do. She has to come up with  answers to questions that she’s refused to address on the campaign trail. I get that in a state where President Obama has abysmal approval ratings, red state Democrats, like Grimes; have to be savvier in their political maneuvering. But so far, she’s decided to hide under the bed and wait until the October 13 debate. The August Bluegrass poll might have something to do with it.

For starters, only 28 percent of Kentucky registered voters view the president favorably; McConnell and Grimes aren’t seen as much better, with both registering at 36 percent.

Kentucky voters want Republicans to retake the majority in the Senate by an 8-point margin, but Grimes leads 42/37 on the question about which candidate they trust at creating jobs. Yet, 22 percent are undecided on this issue; there’s room for either side to grow. The same goes for who Kentucky voters trust to keep Medicare financially solvent and affordable for seniors. Both Grimes and McConnell are tied at 42 percent, with 16 percent undecided.

Amongst likely voters, if the election were held today, McConnell would win 47/45 over Grimes. McConnell would win the 18-34 vote (49/44), virtually tie Grimes with women voters (46/47), and take about 27 percent of the African-American vote. That’s not a bad base of support. Yet, 25 percent said that they might change their minds between now and Election Day.

So, I guess one could understand why Grimes is more cautious; one wrong move and it could be the ballgame. But is sounding like a robot the way to move the needle in her direction?  For goodness sake, Sen. Mark Pryor, who is in the same dire political situation as Grimes, released a pro-Obamacare ad in Arkansas. With a D next to her name, not answering the question is the same as giving an answer to questions about policies that liberal Democrats adore.  Authenticity seems to be the secret weapon in winning over voters. Grimes hasn’t done  herself any favors in this department and if she bombs in October, which looking at her string of videos wouldn’t be shocking in the slightest; then McConnell will obviously run away with it.

This Patches O’Houlihan protocol Grimes has adapted possibly tells us that Grimes is afraid to articulate her positions, she’s too liberal, and  she’s not a good communicator. With that, she’s placing all her eggs in one basket with this October 13 debate this fall. So, be sure to bring your popcorn. It could be highly entertaining, albeit potentially brutal for Grimes.


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Is this one of those winnable elections or no?

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Good thing I don’t live in Kentucky.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 6:07 PM

she’s running in … heat

War on Women?

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Grimey!

22044 on August 28, 2014 at 6:08 PM

For goodness sake, Sen. Mark Pryor, who is in the same dire political situation as Grimes, released a pro-Obamacare ad in Arkansas.

Pfffft! That’s nothing. Pryor just released an ad accusing Rep Tom Cotton of being PRO-EBOLA!

Desperation.

If Primary Results In The Sunshine State Are Any Indication, The November Forecast Is ‘Doom & Gloom’ For Democrats

Resist We Much on August 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Grimes: “Hey! I’m a woman! Quit asking questions!”

GarandFan on August 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Patches O’Houlihan vs Raphael, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle….?

d1carter on August 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Whores like this with abundant, thick face fat make for excellent repetitive slapping.

Diluculo on August 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Does she have a strategy for ISIS?

faraway on August 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Good thing I don’t live in Kentucky.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Yeah, we’re screwed either way it goes. There is no way to win this election. So I am going to prove I am not a RAAAAACIST!!! according to ads Mitch McConnell helped pay for in Mississippi and vote for Thad Cochran instead.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

I am waiting for them to ask her about her stance on abortion, that will start the race to the bottom for her in the polls here in Kentucky.

Johnnyreb on August 28, 2014 at 6:17 PM

but Grimes leads 42/37 on the question about which candidate they trust at creating jobs.

How? Why? How does this– Why do– What is– I don’t even!

McConnell, you suck. Badly.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Ask her about the Iron Dome…maybe she thinks it’s the new WWE wrestler.

22044 on August 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

I am waiting for them to ask her about her stance on abortion, that will start the race to the bottom for her in the polls here in Kentucky.

Johnnyreb on August 28, 2014 at 6:17 PM

The Lexington and Louisville media are just as leftist and protective of Democrats as the Obamedia.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

“Lundergan? A nerve gas used by the Klingons.”
“Aye! And deadly too! What’re you thinkin’ of doctor, ya try’na kill us all???”

Judge_Dredd on August 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

that a scheduling conflict would prevent her

Is she taking up golf too?

Fenris on August 28, 2014 at 6:20 PM

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Love it.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

How? Why? How does this– Why do– What is– I don’t even!

McConnell, you suck. Badly.

Bad. To say he sucks badly would imply that his mechanism to suck is broken.

Sorry couldn’t resist. A little Kiss Kiss Bang Bang humor.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Somebody should see if she can dodge a wrench.

Axeman on August 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

This Patches O’Houlihan protocol Grimes has adapted possibly tells us that Grimes is afraid to articulate her positions, she’s too liberal, and she’s not a good communicator. With that, she’s placing all her eggs in one basket with this October 13 debate this fall. So, be sure to bring your popcorn. It could be highly entertaining, albeit potentially brutal for Grimes.

Other than the I-64 corridor from Lexington to Frankfort to Louisville (which has it’s places that’s just as leftist as Berzerkley) Kentucky is very VERY much a conservative state. That corridor is where Mizz Hyphenated-DASH-Name comes from, and both names in her Hyphenated-DASH-Name are Democrat political pensioner royalty.

Mitch McConnell, if he were an actual conservative instead himself a DC Pensioner would run away with this.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Good Ole Grimey.

Esaus Message on August 28, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Bad. To say he sucks badly would imply that his mechanism to suck is broken.

Sorry couldn’t resist. A little Kiss Kiss Bang Bang humor.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Very true. Thank you. I misspoke.

I’ll just say “McConnell sucks!” and leave it at that. But seriously, to lose on the job-creating issue to a leftist Democrat, in a red state, with a president in office like Obama? That is mind boggling. And this is the guy who wants to lead the Senate? Good lord.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Just let her keep talking… get microphones in front of her at every single opportunity…D’s no longer know how to play politics, only steal elections.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM

I’ll just say “McConnell sucks!” and leave it at that. But seriously, to lose on the job-creating issue to a leftist Democrat, in a red state, with a president in office like Obama? That is mind boggling. And this is the guy who wants to lead the Senate? Good lord.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 6:26 PM

I am from Eastern Kentucky (Ashland) which is coal country. People here still bitterly cling to the unions and vote Democrat for local government (one reason why the county I live easily rivals Chicago for corruption). Even here people vote reliably Red though for Congress and the Senate. I can’t remember the last McConnell sign I saw though. Lots of Hyphenated-DASH-Grimey signs.

Like I said, I want to PROVE to Mitch McConnell that I am NOT a TEA Party RAAAAACIST!!!! so I will do what he asked Mississippi to do and vote for Thad Cochran.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Just let her keep talking… get microphones in front of her at every single opportunity…D’s no longer know how to play politics, only steal elections.

ajacksonian on August 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM

It will be interesting if she journeys to Eastern Kentucky to campaign. I doubt she’s ever been here.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM

I am from Eastern Kentucky (Ashland) which is coal country. People here still bitterly cling to the unions and vote Democrat for local government (one reason why the county I live easily rivals Chicago for corruption). Even here people vote reliably Red though for Congress and the Senate. I can’t remember the last McConnell sign I saw though. Lots of Hyphenated-DASH-Grimey signs.

Like I said, I want to PROVE to Mitch McConnell that I am NOT a TEA Party RAAAAACIST!!!! so I will do what he asked Mississippi to do and vote for Thad Cochran.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Why don’t you go ahead and vote for the dash-grimey then. You so-called true conservatives are insane.

Chudi on August 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Why don’t you go ahead and vote for the dash-grimey then. You so-called true conservatives are insane.

Chudi on August 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

That is what I had planned to do but I can’t. I think writing in Thad Cochran given McConnell’s active role in the Great Mississippi Backstab of 2014 it has a certain irresistible irony to it.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

“If you can dodge a wrench ugly stick you can dodge a ball er…question debate.”
Patches O’Houlihan

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

If she wins, luckily for her, her only job will be to follow orders from Harry Reid and raise money. That she probably knows how to do.

RBMN on August 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

If she wins, luckily for her, her only job will be to follow orders from Harry Reid and raise money. That she probably knows how to do.

RBMN on August 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Not really. She’s a lot like Obama and has never done anything useful or productive in her life except bridge two powerful Democrat political crime families together. That’s the only reason why she’s the candidate. Her money is being laundered out of Frankfort and coming from the outside.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

“If you can dodge a wrench ugly stick you can dodge a ball er…question debate.”
Patches O’Houlihan

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

If she wins she will easily be the “hottest” elected Democrat woman in DC. Easily. And she’s Sandra Fluke fugly.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

oops she didn’t dodge that ugly stick. No she climbed the highest ugly tree (might have had a helicopter drop her at the top) fell and hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down.

Then a guy came by with an ugly bat and beat her for an hour.

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Just for any lurking leftist douchebags, ugly leftist women are stupid too. No redeeming qualities in them at all. NONE.

They are just ugly and stupid. Easily manipulated by criminals and con men or as we call them the democrat leadership.

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

oops she didn’t dodge that ugly stick. No she climbed the highest ugly tree (might have had a helicopter drop her at the top) fell and hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down.

Then a guy came by with an ugly bat and beat her for an hour.

jukin3 on August 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

A University of Kentucky cheerleader, she was not.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I am from Eastern Kentucky (Ashland) which is coal country. People here still bitterly cling to the unions and vote Democrat for local government (one reason why the county I live easily rivals Chicago for corruption). Even here people vote reliably Red though for Congress and the Senate. I can’t remember the last McConnell sign I saw though. Lots of Hyphenated-DASH-Grimey signs.

Like I said, I want to PROVE to Mitch McConnell that I am NOT a TEA Party RAAAAACIST!!!! so I will do what he asked Mississippi to do and vote for Thad Cochran.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Ah, yes. The unions. Like the New York City cockroach, they never go away and only end up breeding more. Still, “coal country” and “Democrat” going together surprises me given the environmental wacko movement which is rooted deep within the party.

Excellent. Show McConnell and friends what an open-minded, accepting and tolerant person you are. For Thad! For Thad! And maybe Henry Barbour, too.

Aizen on August 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The Lexington and Louisville media are just as leftist and protective of Democrats as the Obamedia.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Yes they are, but she can’t stay in the I-64 corridor and win the election. She has to come out of her comfort zone at some point or she will lose. I suspect that is what we are seeing with this last minute debate withdraw, she knows she will blow it out of her Louisville support bubble and she got scared.

Johnnyreb on August 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

McConnell would win 47/45 over Grimes. McConnell would win the 18-34 vote (49/44), virtually tie Grimes with women voters (46/47), and take about 27 percent of the African-American vote.

I’m sorry, but this poll can’t possibly be weighted correctly. If McConnell is winning close to 30% of the black vote and the 18-34 vote and is virtually tied among women..He should be winning by 15%..
Unless Kentucky is full of older white men who are..planning to vote for the Democrat ???

This poll is bs.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 28, 2014 at 7:09 PM

McConnell would win 47/45 over Grimes. McConnell would win the 18-34 vote (49/44), virtually tie Grimes with women voters (46/47), and take about 27 percent of the African-American vote.

Punching these numbers into an election forecaster. With these numbers nationwide Romney would have won the popular vote by 8.82%…

And carried.. Florida..Wisconsin..Minnesota.. Michigan..Iowa..Nevada.. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio..

For some reason Colorado is still going to Obama in the forecaster, even with an 8.82% Romney win..

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Grimes is grimy.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Is her hair green?

Tell your stylist go lighter on the ash.

petunia on August 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

What’s with the challenger against a long-time incumbent (and Senate Minority Leader) dodging debates? Normally, challengers (of either party) welcome the opportunity to debate and criticize the incumbent on statewide TV.

Is young Ms. Grimes afraid that good ol’ Mitch is quicker on his feet than she is, and she’s trying to hide behind her ads and not face her opponent?

McConnell should run a few ads saying, “I have invited Ms. Grimes to debate the issues several times before the people of Kentucky, and she has refused. If she wants to take my job, she needs to tell you the voters to my face what she would do better than I have done the past 12 years. Do you really want to elect a Senator whose intentions are unknown, and be stuck with her for 6 years?”

Steve Z on August 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Yes they are, but she can’t stay in the I-64 corridor and win the election. She has to come out of her comfort zone at some point or she will lose. I suspect that is what we are seeing with this last minute debate withdraw, she knows she will blow it out of her Louisville support bubble and she got scared.

Johnnyreb on August 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Ashland is at the Eastern end of the I-64 Corridor. If you can’t win here, you can’t win Kentucky. Ashland is the capital of Appalachia.

ConstantineXI on August 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM

The question for conservatives is “What’s a reasonable price for keeping McConnell from becoming Majority Leader.” Control of the Senate, maybe not. But winning the Senate by one vote less would be worthwhile.

Voting for Grimes may yet be good strategy for Tea Partiers if it gets rid of McConnell and puts the fear of God into the rest of the RINOs. We can’t go on as we have been, and supporting McConnell for the sake of keeping a Republican in his seat is doing just that.

PersonFromPorlock on August 29, 2014 at 8:14 AM

She’s gonna lose.

ezspirit on August 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM

“The question for conservatives is “What’s a reasonable price for keeping McConnell from becoming Majority Leader.” Control of the Senate, maybe not. But winning the Senate by one vote less would be worthwhile.

Voting for Grimes may yet be good strategy for Tea Partiers if it gets rid of McConnell and puts the fear of God into the rest of the RINOs. We can’t go on as we have been, and supporting McConnell for the sake of keeping a Republican in his seat is doing just that.”

Agreed PersonFromPorlock. Remember Mississippi.

searcher on August 29, 2014 at 1:14 PM

I’m sure Mr. McConnell was feeling a lot better after the Kentucky Farm Bureau Forum, where Grimes had a less-than-stellar performance, coming off as “rehearsed,” with answers that sounded too much like talking points.

Yeah, that sounds OK, but more importantly, did Mitch deliver any good strong take down “punches” at Conservative Republicans and TEA Party folks?

RJL on August 29, 2014 at 4:38 PM

This just shows how easy it would have been for the right candidate to beat McConnell. He could easily be beaten and this is the best the Dims came up with? Her commercials even suck.

flstc on August 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM