Obama’s new power grab: A climate change treaty without Senate ratification

posted at 11:21 am on August 27, 2014 by Allahpundit

It’s not a “new” treaty, apparently, if they’re rewriting an old treaty that’s already been ratified. Maybe that’s a sneak peek of Obama’s Syria policy too. Instead of asking for a new AUMF against ISIS, he could issue an “addendum” or whatever to the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaeda. Come to think of it, that’s his approach on immigration too. The mega-amnesty he’s getting ready to uncork isn’t being presented as new policy, even though it would legalize five million people or more. It’s being presented as a discretionary application of law that’s already on the books.

Turns out every bold new move Obama wants to make as president has already been authorized by statute, as if prophesied. I’m almost grateful in hindsight that he asked Congress to pass ObamaCare instead of deciding that some clause buried in the original Medicare bill allows him to order universal health care by fiat.

American negotiators are instead homing in on a hybrid agreement — a proposal to blend legally binding conditions from an existing 1992 treaty with new voluntary pledges. The mix would create a deal that would update the treaty, and thus, negotiators say, not require a new vote of ratification.

Countries would be legally required to enact domestic climate change policies — but would voluntarily pledge to specific levels of emissions cuts and to channel money to poor countries to help them adapt to climate change. Countries might then be legally obligated to report their progress toward meeting those pledges at meetings held to identify those nations that did not meet their cuts.

“There’s some legal and political magic to this,” said Jake Schmidt, an expert in global climate negotiations with the Natural Resources Defense Council, an advocacy group. “They’re trying to move this as far as possible without having to reach the 67-vote threshold” in the Senate…

A deal that would not need to be ratified by the United States or any other nation is also drawing fire from the world’s poorest countries. In African and low-lying island nations — places that scientists say are the most vulnerable to the impacts of climate change — officials fear that any agreement made outside the structure of a traditional United Nations treaty will not bind rich countries to spend billions of dollars to help developing nations deal with the forces of climate change.

So enacting emissions policies and reporting progress on meeting them are requirements that will have the force of law, per the earlier treaty, but the actual substance of those policies is TBD and doesn’t require Senate ratification. Am I understanding that correctly? How is that different from O grabbing his pen and rewriting the old AUMF this way: “Congress hereby authorizes the president to use all necessary force against the terrorist group known as Al Qaeda ISIS”?

Three points here. One: It’s academic given the constitutional threshold of 67 votes for ratification, but I wonder if Harry Reid would have been willing to nuke the filibuster for this if the threshold were a simple majority instead. Don’t be so sure he would have; as in 2009, when the Senate began chin-pulling over whether to ratify an eventual Copenhagen accord, there are plenty of Democratic divisions on climate-change policy too. Would Reid rubber-stamp a global warming agreement knowing how awkward it would make life for coal-country candidates like Alison Lundergan Grimes? Two: Unlike DACA, this executive chicanery really might be undone by a Republican president in 2017. I’m convinced that the GOP so fears a backlash among Latino voters over immigration that Obama’s mega-amnesty will be allowed to stand by a Republican successor, albeit with plenty of pleading for Congress to pass something that subsumes O’s policy. That won’t happen here. President Rubio would, under intense pressure from righties, have no choice but to revisit this. Three: Part of O’s strategy in going bananas lately with dubious executive orders might be to bait the GOP into shutting down the government before fall. That’s unlikely to happen — even tea-party congressman recognize what it might do to change the political winds before the midterms — but the more aggressive he gets in seizing the power to decide hot-button issues unilaterally, the more tempted Republicans will be. If he decides to go all-out against ISIS without seeking congressional approval for that either, will that be some sort of final straw for Republicans in Congress? Or will Boehner just amend his lawsuit and add these new power grabs to it? My money’s on the latter.


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zero’s been working to implement the failed crap-n-tax bill the Dems couldn’t get through Congress c2010, via the EPA.

Oh, and BISHOP!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Civil Disobedience.

Obama’s executive power grabs are illegal.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

An unratified treaty is just a list of suggestions.

Kohath on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Unlike DACA…

All treaties are undone if a president says so. There is no legislative mechanism for unwinding treaties, only for making them binding through law. But a president has the authority to remove us from any treaty if he so chooses.

NotCoach on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

obama is an ignorant dilettante, and very proud of it.

Squirrels

ISIS will cut heads off, but “climate change”.

One can’t make this up in the best/worst of fiction.

#smartpower

everdiso/lester on August 21, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Bambi has only ten weeks to muck-up the system as much as he can before elections.

Let him.

It would only play against him before November.

Turtle317 on August 27, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Obama’s HeeHaw Legacy – Gloom Despair and Agony On Me

faraway on August 27, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Christ Stirewalt of Fox said

“He’s doing less than something”.

The D-rats in the red states are running scared, shitless, due to obama. This is but one reason.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Will the USA be obligated and bound by the treaty or can the next administration ignore it just like that Bamster ignores laws he doesn’t like?

LeftCoastRight on August 27, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I somehow don’t think the Supremes would be all cool with this run around the treaty provisions of the Constitution. All Exxon has to do is pursue it to them.

Vanceone on August 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Imagine “Russia, China and India, I shame you into cleaning up your air” — Lilliobama

“Heh, heh, heh” — Russia, China, India

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

The next President won’t have time to play golf….he will be busy undoing all of Obama’s crap.

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Will the USA be obligated and bound by the treaty or can the next administration ignore it just like that Bamster ignores laws he doesn’t like?

LeftCoastRight on August 27, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Obama can no more bind future executives with his orders than the current Congress can bind future Congresses with it’s rules.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

That picture makes him look so stupid.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Raise your hand if you are shocked…

oscarwilde on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

All treaties are undone if a president says so. There is no legislative mechanism for unwinding treaties, only for making them binding through law. But a president has the authority to remove us from any treaty if he so chooses.

NotCoach on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

There is a legislative mechanism. It’s called impeachment. Obama is shiftless, lazy, good-for-nothing rat-eared bastard. But he knows that as a black President he is bullet proof when it comes to being removed from office. So he just shucks and jives and has a cadre of willing toadies take the fall when the corruption oozes out too much.

Happy Nomad on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“There’s some legal and political magic to this,”

TRANSLATION: This is a new liberal phrase for BULLSHIT!

GarandFan on August 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I guess Obama and the left have a hard time understanding “facts”…..

GLOBAL WARMING ‘FABRICATED’ BY NASA AND NOAA

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA

Australian Met Office Accused Of Manipulating Temperature Records

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/23/australian-met-office-accused-of-manipulating-temperature-records/

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Raise your hand if you are shocked…

oscarwilde on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Hands up for surprise! That could become a thing.

Happy Nomad on August 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

The guy who says “I’ll nullify all of obama’s executive orders, or most of them, in the first two days” gets the vote in 2016.

obama is a scourge to the land and the world.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Obama can no more bind future executives with his orders than the current Congress can bind future Congresses with it’s rules.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

So, he is just being the world’s biggest troll.

Oil Can on August 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

That picture makes him look so stupid.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Blame the picture, huh?

faraway on August 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Sulking oaf on world display.

His Utopian idiocies all hit him in that stupid skull.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Well it seems he is trying every absurd thing he can. What if the next president with his pen and phone undoes all of O’s exec orders. Obama is extremely short sighted…and fuck climate change….

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

It’s good to know that we’ll have clean air and water while we are being beheaded…

PatriotRider on August 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Blame the picture, huh?

faraway on August 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Huh?

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

If this happens the United States will never sign on to another UN treaty.

Treaties cannot change after they have been signed. Sadly, this is not surprising that the Obama Administration is trying this strategy, as it is in line with all of his other policy decisions.

airupthere on August 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM

a bad attempt at a joke. my apologies :)

faraway on August 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Part of O’s strategy in going bananas lately with dubious executive orders might be to bait the GOP into shutting down the government before fall.

Well, you know, he really had his heart set on getting impeached….

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Obama is running for UN Secretary General.

Always campaigning.

China and India are the big winners in all of this.

They get to force developed nations (mainly the US) to pay reparations for all their previous CO2 emissions while they continue to develop unabated. Of course all the other smaller countries are going to sign on for the US to pony up and pay them for their weather. Obama is leading us down a very dark path.

airupthere on August 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

So basically more incomptant power grabs….his legacy will be of ruin and shame and on the trash heap of history.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Climate change is redistribution of wealth on a global scale.

airupthere on August 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

The next President won’t have time to play golf….he will be busy undoing all of Obama’s crap.

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM


Executive Order I: All orders issued between 1/20/2009 and Noon 1/20/2017 are null and void.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

his legacy will be of ruin and shame and on the trash heap of history.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

His legacy will be:

IS (Islamic State) and the open borders. They’re now conflated.

Mark it. This is it. He owns both and all the souls of the dead, from both.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Rogue president. Lawless regime.

petefrt on August 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Three: Part of O’s strategy in going bananas lately with dubious executive orders

Why, if I were a loony leftist, I might say that statement was racist. ;)

Aizen on August 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

That picture makes him look so stupid.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Obama not ONLY looks stupid – he is stupid…..
He panders to his far left base because that is all he has left.
The country is going into rebellion mode and all Obama can do
is act like a tinhorn dictator. It might make his base and
his family feel good, but it is not good.

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Civil Disobedience.

Obama’s executive power grabs are illegal.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

THIS. We have absolutely no obligation to obey a lawless rogue administration.

Bat Chain Puller on August 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM

His legacy will be:

IS (Islamic State) and the open borders. They’re now conflated.

Mark it. This is it. He owns both and all the souls of the dead, from both.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Obama is an islamist…..once more people understand that then
the picture of Obama becomes like a shattered jigsaw puzzle…

I really think he is setting himself up to be the King/Dictator of ISIS…..
Then he can destroy America for real……

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Civil Disobedience.

Obama’s executive power grabs are illegal.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Weren’t you saying that it isn’t important for the democrats to lose the senate?

V7_Sport on August 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM

With 2014 being the coolest summer in US History, at this point, what difference does it make?

Brock Robamney on August 27, 2014 at 11:49 AM

It’s going to be a long cold winter. It’s really going to suck to live in the NE when the power goes out for several weeks. I wonder if the liberals (the ones that don’t freeze to death) will connect the dots between Obama’s environmental policies and the inevitable power outages, or if they are going to keep blaming Bush.

bitsy on August 27, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Both of obama’s fathers were Sunni.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Imagine, Mittens lost to this idiot!

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Is this the hill to fight for, GOP, or is that hill still off in the distance somewhere?

Bishop on August 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM

With 2014 being the coolest summer in US History, at this point, what difference does it make?

Brock Robamney on August 27, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Based on the government’s tampering and adjustments to the raw data. it won’t stay that way for long.

airupthere on August 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Oddly Obama’s unpopularity gives him more power.

I am tired of thinking about him. He has sent a fire hose of illegal stuff at me, and I am weary. Just too tired to get outraged. He has ruined the entire world already.

My first thought is why oppose him? Just get the new President to undo it all.

Only in two years much of it will normalize and we will forget our former freedom. And his mistakes will cause a firestorm of new problems that have to be dealt with. So much of what he does is going to stick.

And if public opinion can’t get much worse… I think there is a floor of people who will never admit he is a loser, because that would be “racist” so he has nothing left to lose now.

petunia on August 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Excellent read

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Is this the hill to fight for, GOP, or is that hill still off in the distance somewhere?

Bishop on August 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM

There is no hill level.

nobar on August 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Is this the hill to fight for, GOP, or is that hill still off in the distance somewhere?

Bishop on August 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM

The stupid and weasely GOP don’t even say a word on why Burger King considers leaving the US, as headquarters, for tax reasons.

Eunuchs all around!

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM

I’m just glad the GOP is purging the TP types, they’re concentrating on the real threats to the republic.

Bishop on August 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Obama is trying to be a dictator but oddly he is failing at that and people are getting angrier.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

It strikes me that anybody who is affected by this in any way should be able to sue and win relief in just about any court.

trigon on August 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I would rather have him back on vacation. He seems oblivious of the Isis and has no fear of the GOP. Too bad he does not fear this Isis. This man’s arrogance is awful. Did anyone listen to his speech yesterday bragging that whistle blowers are protected with the respect to the veterans scandal.

garydt on August 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Weren’t you saying that it isn’t important for the democrats to lose the senate?

V7_Sport on August 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM

After the Mississippi Backstab, what difference would it make?

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Am I understanding that correctly? How is that different from O grabbing his pen and rewriting the old AUMF this way: “Congress hereby authorizes the president to use all necessary force against the terrorist group known as Al Qaeda ISIS Tea Party”?

Slight edit but you’ve got.

onomo on August 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Both of obama’s fathers were Sunni.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

The only religion Obama ever commemorates in office is islam. The most consistent part of his schizophrenic foreign policy is support the muslim brotherhood, even against friendly regimes…

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

It strikes me that anybody who is affected by this in any way should be able to sue and win relief in just about any court.
trigon on August 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM
Obama is not a long term thinker and he is just asking for multiple lawsuits with this sort of insanity. Truth be told I do not care much for treaty’s…..

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Obama is not a long term thinker and he is just asking for multiple lawsuits with this sort of insanity. Truth be told I do not care much for treaty’s…..

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Courts would just say we don’t have standing to sue.

There isn’t anything in DC that hasn’t been corrupted by the progressives.

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM

*yawn*…. YAWN

ZzzZZzzzZ

Obama… hmmrphzzz… silly…. zzzZzZz… again…

OregonPolitician on August 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Excellent read

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Wasn’t it? Sent it to the wife this morning.

onomo on August 27, 2014 at 12:13 PM

The only religion Obama ever commemorates in office is islam. The most consistent part of his schizophrenic foreign policy is support the muslim brotherhood, even against friendly regimes…

ConstantineXI on August 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

That is why Obama was pissed when Egypt & Saudi Arabia struck at the islamists in Libya – without King Barack’s approval…….

We are Islamists now…..

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Well he is going to try this and executive amnesty he had best get ready for some very very nasty backlash.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Unless Obama admits he is in fact NOT a US citizen, he can never be the UN General Sec. The US is one of the nations whose citizens are forbidden from be the Gen Sec per it’s charter. Will look up actual statue later, friend here for lunch date

Tinker on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Unless Obama admits he is in fact NOT a US citizen, he can never be the UN General Sec.

Tinker on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

If we ever get a Tea Party President, he could change his citizenship. Maybe Guam.

faraway on August 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM

It will get to the point where the Demos will have to impeach him for the party to survive.

I’m convinced that the GOP so fears a backlash among Latino voters over immigration that Obama’s mega-amnesty will be allowed to stand by a Republican successor

With 27% support and dropping?

Maybe the wiggiest of Whigs, but not otherwise.

formwiz on August 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM

When are one of the houses of congress going to stop this fascist from re-writing laws? He has no authority to do so, and the fact that congress is too corrupt to stop him is not a precedent.

We really do need to flush the toilet. the bowl is so full of turds there’s no room for water anymore.

Diluculo on August 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

We are Islamists now…..

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Not me. If anyone walked up to me and insisted I accept islam, I’d insist they accept the terminal beating I will visit upon them.

Diluculo on August 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

It will get to the point where the Demos will have to impeach him for the party to survive.
I’m convinced that the GOP so fears a backlash among Latino voters over immigration that Obama’s mega-amnesty will be allowed to stand by a Republican successor
With 27% support and dropping?
Maybe the wiggiest of Whigs, but not otherwise.
formwiz on August 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Obama is on a dem suicide mission…unfortunately for the dems he is screwing them over big time.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:31 PM

And if he was a Republican?

Cleombrotus on August 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Is this the hill to fight for, GOP, or is that hill still off in the distance somewhere?

Bishop on August 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Please remember a certain woman from the Yukon said
he should be Impeached, but that was ruled “Off the table”,
because she’s an idiot, you see.

ToddPA on August 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Obama is on a dem suicide mission…unfortunately for the dems he is screwing them over big time.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:31 PM

The democratic party is dead – it has been hijacked by Marxists.

Many “democrats” are now RINO’s.

Joe Piscopo: I Can’t Call Myself a Democrat Any More

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/08/18/joe-piscopo-i-cant-call-myself-democrat-any-more#ixzz3Bbxlaofl

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 12:40 PM

We are Islamists now…..

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Not me. If anyone walked up to me and insisted I accept islam, I’d insist they accept the terminal beating I will visit upon them.

Diluculo on August 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Yeah I know…..it was a play on Time magazine when they said “We are all Socialists Now”.

Islam is not a religion. It is a death cult and should be treated as such.

redguy on August 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Well he is going to try this and executive amnesty he had best get ready for some very very nasty backlash.
sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

You know, we keep hearing about this “backlash” but, seriously, if there hasn’t been any yet, with what this guy and the Dem Party have been doing, there’s not going to be any. It’s just wishful thinking.

Cleombrotus on August 27, 2014 at 12:44 PM

NOAA is already abiding by the UNCLOS (Law of the Sea Treaty) which hasn’t been ratified by the US Senate. I wrote about it here:

http://fisherynation.com/archives/1214

shanimal on August 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM

How is that different from O grabbing his pen and rewriting the old AUMF this way: “Congress hereby authorizes the president to use all necessary force against the terrorist group known as Al Qaeda ISIS”?

“Well, uh, the, uh, Constitution, uh, is a living, uh, breathing thing, and uh, we believe that, uh, it says we can, uh, change laws when, uh, folks get, uh, wee-wee’d up in, uh, summer.”

In other words, laws mean what we say they mean. So sayeth the Constitutional Law part-time lecturer, ‘cuz he’s the smahtest Preezy who evah lived.

/Lefty thot process

DublOh7 on August 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM

to channel money to poor countries to help them adapt to climate change

That, as they say, is the money shot.

Follow the money. Follow the money.

This is just *another* monetary redistribution.

Just like the ACA, only this time it’s international.

Watch as your tax dollars start flowing to island nations that claim that they are disappearing because of rising seas, while at the same time are building multi-million dollar airports.

sultanp on August 27, 2014 at 12:56 PM

The stupid and weasely GOP don’t even say a word on why Burger King considers leaving the US, as headquarters, for tax reasons.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Probably because Burger King denies that it was for tax reasons.

Stoic Patriot on August 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM

It’s good to know that we’ll have clean air and water while we are being beheaded…

PatriotRider on August 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

It has nothing to do with clean air or water. It’s about transferring more wealth that America does not have to the grifters that make up the bulk of the UN.

Festus on August 27, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Guns – check
Ammo – check
E-food – check
Med supplies – check

Can we revolt NOW!

Wyznowski on August 27, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Or will Boehner just amend his lawsuit and add these new power grabs to it?

What lawsuit? All I’ve heard is a rumor of a lawsuit, an authorization of a lawsuit, and pro & con rhetoric on a lawsuit. I haven’t seen any ACTUAL lawsuit?

Maybe the Boehner lawsuit is tied into some sophisticated political strategy that we mere mortals cannot comprehend, but right now the Boehner lawsuit is displaying the same sophistication as Obama’s foreign policy strategy. In other words, what strategy?

pilsener on August 27, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Obama’s HeeHaw Legacy – Gloom Despair and Agony On Me

faraway on August 27, 2014

You forgot the whoooooaaaaah!

Apparently so have the American people.

JonPrichard on August 27, 2014 at 2:14 PM

shanimal on August 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM

actually given how the EPA works they could the same thing, but then they already are

RonK on August 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Congress is not going to do anything to stop Obama. There is little that can be accomplished, even if lawsuits are won. After all, who would enforce a judgment against the President? Impeachment is the only real option, and that will never happen, because Joe Biden.

So we will have to put up with this foolishness until January 2017 rolls around.

s1im on August 27, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Countries would be legally required to enact domestic climate change policies — but would voluntarily pledge to specific levels of emissions cuts and to channel money to poor countries to help them adapt to climate change. Countries might then be legally obligated to report their progress toward meeting those pledges at meetings held to identify those nations that did not meet their cuts.

“Legally required” by whom? Who would enforce whether a country enacted domestic climate change policies, and what punishment would there be for those who didn’t?

So if China or India (the two biggest offenders) ignored the treaty and kept on building huge coal-fired power plants, what happens to them? A sternly worded letter from the IPCC, saying they’re bad boys and don’t do it again? A fine? How much, and payable to whom, and what happens if they refuse to pay?

These treaties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. Thousands of trees were cut down to make that paper, and if those trees were still alive they would take carbon dioxide out of the air and make oxygen. Help reduce CO2 in the air–don’t cut trees down to write useless treaties on global warming that no one will obey!

Steve Z on August 27, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Obama’s new power grab: A climate change treaty without Senate ratification

Yeah, who really thought that these guys are going to kiss probably a trillion bucks goodbye?

And that includes many corporate and banker types. Pretty sick of them getting a pass from Conservatives. They’re using government to rob us and de-industrialize America.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 27, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Imagine, Mittens lost to this idiot!

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Dude, mittens lost to MCCAIN!!! He couldn’t even beat MCCAIN!!! Why the hell did we nominate him again???

runawayyyy on August 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Well he is going to try this and executive amnesty he had best get ready for some very very nasty backlash.

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Why? From Whom?

Nothing will happen. Hillary will still get elected. Everything he’s doing will continue and she’ll make it all worse.

Backlash. Please tell me you’re not this naive.

runawayyyy on August 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

runawayyyy on August 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM Not naive just one of many angry southerners…

sorrowen on August 27, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Australia is looking more and more appealing.

Australia repealed their carbon tax.
Australian MSM is now reporting on the Bureau of Meteorology fraud in adjusting temperature data to create fictitious warming.

Australia is leading the world in common sense response to the climate change nonsense.

America used to be a leader.

airupthere on August 27, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I don’t get it. By whom and how would a law that is voluntary be enforced? It sounds like this is all talk.

Ellis on August 27, 2014 at 4:47 PM

This is non-sense. He doesn’t believe in the government limits contained in the Constitution and therefore will simply re-state what it says and go from there. And with out a doubt the MSM will compliantly go along like the sheep they are.
We’re doomed.

nikophil on August 27, 2014 at 5:09 PM

There’s no magic as the article says. But, there certainly is tyranny.

nikophil on August 27, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Imagine, Mittens lost to this idiot!

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

he took a dive

RonK on August 27, 2014 at 11:42 PM