Good news: 16% of people in France view ISIS favorably

posted at 1:21 pm on August 26, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Vox, the poll was conducted on behalf of a Russian state media outlet but the pollster itself seems credible enough. Besides, if the results are being slanted to tar western countries, why would they be slanted against France but not against the UK?

Bear in mind, per Andrew Stiles, that France is only 5-10 percent Muslim. Even if every Muslim in the country were pro-ISIS, you’d still need a chunk of non-Muslims giving thumbs up to these lunatics to get to 16 percent.

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Vox notes that a similar poll taken recently in Gaza showed 13 percent said they supported ISIS. Hamasistan is less pro-ISIS than France is.

Can it get worse? It can:

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In France, the younger the demographic, the more pro-ISIS it is — whereas the opposite is true in Britain. Huh. Maybe Brits, because of their role in the Iraq war, have more of an investment in seeing Iraq succeed and thus take greater exception to barbarians trying to burn the country to the ground. Then again, we’re forever told that western occupations of Islamic countries risk creating homegrown jihadis by radicalizing domestic Muslims who’d otherwise be solid citizens. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev reportedly cited the Afghanistan and Iraq wars when asked why he and his brother bombed the marathon. If that logic is sound, we should probably see more support for ISIS in the UK, which took a lead role in occupying Iraq, than in France. We don’t. I wonder what the British are doing with respect to integration that the French aren’t. That hasn’t been their forte in the past — the word “Londonistan” exists for a reason — but here we are.

But never mind that. Is France really this bad? No doubt plenty of French Jews would say why, yes, with good reason, but I wonder if there are other influences bearing on the poll. At Vox, Max Fisher thinks there might be a cycle of radicalization happening between French Muslims and far-right movements, which in turn generates sympathy among the former for ISIS. I guess, but as Stiles says, not even unanimous pro-ISIS sentiment among French Muslims would account for all the support here. Something else is happening to create sympathy among a number of non-Muslims too. It could be that the French experience in Algeria has created lingering anti-colonialist sentiment on the left which, in its extremes, actually supports a bunch of Arab fanatics in undoing the nation-building the U.S. and UK tried to do. Or it could be simple anti-American sentiment at work: The U.S. is bombing ISIS, ergo, the only proper response is to support the people being bombed. The flaw in that hypothesis, though, is that this poll was conducted between July 11th and 13th, nearly a month before Obama ordered airstrikes.

Maybe the ISIS result here is being driven in part by anti-Israel sentiment. Israel’s new conflict with Hamas began just a few days before the poll was taken. As opposition to Israel gets hotter, it has a tendency to bleed over into anti-Jewish sentiment, and if it can mutate that way, it can probably also mutate into support for the most radical, and formidable, jihadist element currently operating in Israel’s regional backyard. The ADL polled France on anti-semitism a few years ago and found this:

In France, where a shooting at a Jewish school in Toulouse yesterday claimed the lives of three small children and a teacher, the overall level of anti-Semitism increased to 24 percent of the population, an increase from 20 percent in a previous ADL poll conducted in 2009. In France, 45 percent of respondents attributed the violence against European Jews to anti-Jewish feelings, an increase from 39 percent in 2009.

Other findings for France include: 45 percent of the population responded “probably true” to the statement “Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country; 35 percent agreed that “Jews have too much power in the business world; and 35 percent believe that “Jews still talk too much about what happened to them during the Holocaust.

Could you find some people among that rabble to say “yay, ISIS,” when the nightly news is covering war in Gaza? Probably, yeah. Add them to the people described above, starting with the French Muslims who really are pro-ISIS on the merits, and maybe you get to 16 percent. Exit question: The war in Gaza was on the nightly news in Britain and Germany too. How come they couldn’t get to 16 percent?


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Sacré bleu!

Good Lt on August 26, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Hey, they’re just waving their white flag early….

Barred on August 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM

That’s nothing. What until 2050 when ISIS is burning the art work in the Louvre.

Oil Can on August 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM

That’s what you get when you import Muslims. Good luck Europe.

Thank you ISIS!

Ded Pecker on August 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM

wsucoug on August 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Stupid French!!

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Bear in mind, per Andrew Stiles, that France is only 5-10 percent Muslim


Bear in mind
, France has a problem with illegal Muslim immigrants equal in scope to the one America has with the Mexican border.

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Western civilization is committing suicide by declaring there is no such thing as western civilization.

Socratease on August 26, 2014 at 1:31 PM

That’s nothing. What until 2050 when ISIS is burning the art work in the Louvre.

Oil Can on August 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Quite an optimist. It’ll probably happen sooner than that.

hawkeye54 on August 26, 2014 at 1:32 PM

MeanWhile:

Syrian civil war
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American militant killed fighting for Islamic State in Syria over the weekend – @NBCNews
Read more on nbcnews.com
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American Douglas McAuthur McCain Dies Fighting for ISIS in Syria
By Cassandra Vinograd and Ammar Cheikh Omar
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/american-douglas-mcauthur-mccain-dies-fighting-isis-syria-n189081

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Could you find some people among that rabble to say “yay, ISIS,”


You DO realize
that France’s culture is the antithesis of every Muslim teaching, right?

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Have any Frenchmen been beheaded publicly……yet?

d1carter on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Western civilization is committing suicide by declaring there is no such thing as western civilization.

Socratease on August 26, 2014 at 1:31 PM

There are too many enjoying the benefits of living in western civilization at the same time loathe it and work to destroy it.

hawkeye54 on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

MeanWhile Part Deux:

https://twitter.com/AP

The Associated Press @AP · 54m

MORE: Family members, U.S. officials say Islamic State militant group holding American woman hostage in Syria: http://apne.ws/1onocVJ
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The Associated Press @AP · 1h

BREAKING: Family, US officials: Third US hostage held by Islamic State militants is female aid worker.
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canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I thought it would be closer to 15.8%

DarkCurrent on August 26, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Looks like 16% of the French population needs to be expelled from France or killed.

Reno_Dave on August 26, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Well it took the Germans over two weeks to conquer France..

..It Rained.

ToddPA on August 26, 2014 at 1:35 PM

You DO realize that France’s culture is the antithesis of every Muslim teaching, right?

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Err, not for long…..

wsucoug on August 26, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Muzzies and their buddies

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Return of the Vichy French.

Bitter Clinger on August 26, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Kerry approves.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Regarding the aid worker held by Isis:

Either consider her dead, or threaten that if she’s not released unharmed within a week, the U.S. will carpet bomb a town under ISIS control.

Reno_Dave on August 26, 2014 at 1:37 PM

#smartpower

everdiso/lester on August 21, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Allah approves. He took one of the idiots.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Tu-tu wearing surrender-monkeys, hoping islam kills them last.

CurtZHP on August 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM

You’re overthinking it, Allah. Young men, unemployed and restless, living in close confinment, stoked up by totalitarian religous teachings.

butch on August 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Poll: 66% of Democrats support prosecuting Rick Perry

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Could you find some people among that rabble to say “yay, ISIS,” when the nightly news is covering war in Gaza?
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Speaking of Gaza:

Rubble Bucket Challenge…………………………..WTF:
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Results for #remainsbucket
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/remainsbucket?src=hash

Forget the ice bucket challenge – people of war-torn Gaza make a point by turning it into the RUBBLE bucket challenge
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Ice Bucket Challenge was launched to raise funds for ALS Association
Residents of Gaza have started their own version of the internet craze
Participants use buckets of rubble, rather than waste precious water
Aims to raise awareness of the desperate living conditions in Gaza Strip
First video posted by Palestinian journalist Ayman al Aloul on Friday
It’s taken off on social media with supports using #rubblebucketchallenge

By Stephanie Linning for MailOnline

Published: 21:15 GMT, 25 August 2014 | Updated: 22:03 GMT, 25 August 2014
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734142/People-Gaza-turn-RUBBLE-bucket-challenge.html

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:40 PM

It’s a reflection of….

….how far gone France is….

….how anti-semitic France is….

….France has far too many “useful” idiots.

All of this is going to help Marine Le Pen in the next election.

Kerry approves.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:36 PM

The Sociopath-in-Chief also nods his approval.

Athos on August 26, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Via Vox…

I stopped reading.

NotCoach on August 26, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Poll: 66% of Democrats support prosecuting Rick Perry

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Schadenfreude: Ya, go figure!:)

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:41 PM

France is 5% muslim, like we’ve only got 9M illegal aliens from south of the border…

Goatman on August 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM

You DO realize that France’s culture is the antithesis of every Muslim teaching, right?

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Every muslim teaching except for anti-semitism.

Fenris on August 26, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Regarding the aid worker held by Isis:

Either consider her dead, or threaten that if she’s not released unharmed within a week, the U.S. will carpet bomb a town under ISIS control.

Reno_Dave on August 26, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Do we even have the capability to carpet bomb anymore?

Fenris on August 26, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Hopeys Legion Speechy Exerpts:
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https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1h

Pres Obama received respectful standing ovations from American Legion audience, though applause at times was tepid.

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1h

“Rooting out a cancer like ISIL wont be easy and won’t be quick,” says Pres Obama. Says ISIL’s “hateful vision” is no match for US.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1h

Pres Obama says “ultimately it is up to the Iraqis to bridge their differences and secure themselves.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1h

On ISIS murder of James Foley, Pres Obama says “America does not forget, our reach is long, we are patient. Justice will be done.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 2h

Despite challenge to ISIS, Pres Obama says he won’t allow the US to be “dragged into another ground war in Iraq.” pic.twitter.com/YsMStEa4ry
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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 2h

Pres Obama defends US withdrawal from Iraq and says in 4 months the longest US war in Afghanistan “will come to a responsible end.”

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 2h

Addressing some 7000 at @AmericanLegion. Pres Obama says US better positioned to lead in 21st century – including most powerful military.

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The guillotine was invented in France, when in the 1700s whole towns would come out to see the latest local head-chopping. The head-chopping of ISIS may just have stimulated some French nostalgia.

otlset on August 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM

France has brought this trouble on to themselves. There are tens of thousands of young Muslim males living in the country who are still viewed as “outsiders”.

These men don’t know the French culture and many don’t even speak the language. Yet the racist French have refused to learn the languages of the ME or to significantly adjust their culture. Sure, their courts will occasionally issue a ruling based on Sharia law, but it’s no more than a token effort.

Due to French stubbornness, these males are completely unemployable and have now been forced to resort to arson and rape just to express their frustration at their oppressors.

Frank Lib on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Six Million for US Woman Hostage?:

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Editor’s note:

ABC News is reporting that the Islamic State is demanding a $6.6 million ransom for a 26-year-old American woman. The hostage, ABC reports, was captured a year ago while doing humanitarian work in Syria. – Tom
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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Screw the French, there I said it!

D-fusit on August 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Six Million for US Woman Hostage?:

Syrian civil war
7m

Editor’s note:

ABC News is reporting that the Islamic State is demanding a $6.6 million ransom for a 26-year-old American woman. The hostage, ABC reports, was captured a year ago while doing humanitarian work in Syria. – Tom
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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Didn’t they demand 26 Million for the MAN? Now your telling me that ISIS is anti-women too?

D-fusit on August 26, 2014 at 1:59 PM

From Mark Steyn…

A few days ago, James Foley was beheaded by an ISIS jihadist, apparently British by upbringing and passport, if not in his primary identity. The decapitation of an American by an outfit he’d previously dismissed as the “jayvees” of jihad was sufficiently serious for President Obama to postpone his tee time, although not to any useful effect. Aside from the fake, tinny chumminess (all “Jim” this, “Jim that, just as for Ambassador Stevens it was all “Chris” this, “Chris that”) the commander-in-chief reserves for the victims of an enemy he assured us was on the run, Obama’s remarks were fatuous even by his own recent standards, and did not long delay his arrival at the links.

While he stays on the course at the Vineyard Golf Club, the rest of us have to make do with the pabulum of his prompter:

One thing we can all agree on is that a group like ISIL has no place in the 21st century.

As I was driving back from Quebec to New Hampshire today, I heard a host on CJAD express agreement with the President on this. And why not? It demands nothing of one. It makes ISIS sound like a social faux pas: one thing we can all agree on is that no one wears white after Labor Day or saws your head off after the year 2000.

Unfortunately, it’s not true. Thousands of people apparently enjoy decapitation, and certainly more than did in the late 20th century, and certainly far more British, Dutch, German, Belgian, and other European nationals than have done since medieval times. And many more citizens of western nations with no particular desire to behead anyone themselves nevertheless enjoy it as a spectator sport. Prissily declaring that something “has no place” is all too typical of Obama, a man who seems to think the 18th hole is the moral high ground. But what the has-no-place posturing boils down to is: its place is more secure than ever and he’s not going to do a thing about it.

Somehow we keep missing the point: the story did get out; the severed head is the message. By now, the tape has been duplicated, and re-duplicated, and copies are circulating through the bazaars and madrassahs. Apparently, it’s even for sale on the Internet. It’s a recruitment video – join the jihad, meet interesting people, and behead them – and a training video, too: this is how you do it – the statement, the knife, the defilement of the corpse. But in a more profound sense it’s a boast, an act of self-congratulation, a pat on the back for a job well done: the smile on the face of the tiger.

Daniel Pearl reckoned he could ride the tiger: he was promised a meeting with an Islamofascist bigwig, so he got in a car with intermediaries he thought he knew. George Jonas wrote a brilliant column the other day on the delusions of those who think they can “establish a ‘dialogue’ with fanatics” or, as some of Pearl’s friends put it, “bridge the misconceptions”. The “misconception”, presumably, is that these men are ruthless, violent, depraved. As surely we know by now, the only misconception is that that’s a misconception.

Pearl thought he had won their trust, that they had accepted him as a honest broker, recognized his genuine sympathy for Muslim suffering, were willing to treat with him as one human being to another. But in the end they saw none of that: to them, he was an American, a Jew, a trophy. So they set a trap. According to one witness in a Karachi court, Omar Sheikh boasted two days beforehand that they were about to seize someone who was “anti-Islam and a Jew”. By the time Robert Fisk issued his plea for mercy on February 4th, Pearl was already dead.

In Saturday’s Independent, Fisk reflected on the death of the man described as his friend: “But why was he killed? Because he was a Westerner, a ‘Kaffir’? Because he was an American? Or because he was a journalist?” Anyone spot the missing category? It’s the one Omar Sheikh used, and the one acknowledged by Daniel Pearl in his last words: “Yes, I am a Jew…” Fisk can’t bring himself to use the word in the entire column. Full disclosure: after noodling incoherently around possible reasons for the murder, Fisk settles on a “shameful, unethical headline” over an “article by Mark Steyn” in Pearl’s own Wall Street Journal. It was about Fisk’s bloody beating by an Afghan mob in Pakistan last December, after which he said that, in their shoes, “I would have done just the same to Robert Fisk. Or any other Westerner I could find.” It’s not their fault, he insisted, their “brutality is entirely the product of others”. As Fisk sees it, the mob who attacked him were “truly innocent of any crime except being the victim of the world”. In The Wall Street Journal, I called this “Fiskal responsibility – it’s always the Great Satan’s fault.”

Insofar as there’s any connection between the mugging of this vain buffoon and the murder of Daniel Pearl, it’s this: History repeats itself, but, in this instance, the usual order – tragedy’s recapitulation as farce – has been reversed. Is it too much to hope that militant Islam’s apologists might finally put an end to their own “misconceptions”? Islam is not “the victim of the world”, but the victim of itself. Omar Sheikh is a British public schoolboy, a graduate of the London School of Economics, and, like Osama and Mohammed Atta, a monument to the peculiar burdens of a non-deprived childhood in the Muslim world. Give ‘em an e-mail address and they use it for kidnap notes. Give ‘em a camcorder and they make a snuff video.

Let’s assume that all the chips fell the jihadis’ way, that they recruited enough volunteers to be able to kidnap and decapitate every single Jew in Palestine. Then what? Muslims would still be, as Pakistan’s General Musharraf told a conference the other day, “the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most unenlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.” Who would “the victim of the world” blame next? The evidence of the Sudan, Nigeria, and other parts of Africa suggests that, when there are no Jews to hand, the Islamofascists happily make do with killing Christians. In Kashmir, it’s the Hindus’ fault. There’s always someone.

The above is from my book, The Face Of The Tiger. I concluded with a bit of advice to General Musharraf:


He can try to ride the tiger, or resolve to kill it and hang it in his trophy room.

But that applies to us, too. For thirteen years, we have shied away from directly confronting the ideology, preferring to disrupt only its symptoms – bomb plots, and airline attacks. And in that thirteen years the ideology has metastasized within the cocoon of western denial – so that the men barely out of short trousers on 9/11 now flock to fight for an organization that Obama assures us “has no place in the 21st century”. If the evasive pap spouted by the President the other day is the best the west can do, then we will lose.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Bear in mind, per Andrew Stiles, that France is only 5-10 percent Muslim. Even if every Muslim in the country were pro-ISIS, you’d still need a chunk of non-Muslims giving thumbs up to these lunatics to get to 16 percent.

The comports with CIA FactBook. Elsewhere, (Wiki) states the French government estimated it at 8-10% in 2003.

It could be you’re right that a chunk of non-Muslims would be needed to get to 16%. Then again, does France have a significant illegal alien problem?

Also, here is an interesting tidbit from Wiki:

France remains a major destination for immigrants, accepting about 200,000 legal immigrants annually.[196] It is also Western Europe’s leading recipient of asylum seekers, with an estimated 50,000 applications in 2005 (a 15% decrease from 2004).[197] The European Union allows free movement between the member states, although France established controls to curb Eastern European migration, and immigration remains a contentious political issue.

In 2008, the French national institute of statistics INSEE estimated that the total number of foreign-born immigrants was around 5 million (8% of the population), while their French-born descendants numbered 6.5 million, or 11% of the population. Thus, nearly a fifth of the country’s population were either first or second-generation immigrants, more than 5 million of European origin and 4 million of Maghrebi origin.[198][199][200] In 2008, France granted citizenship to 137,000 persons, mostly to people from Morocco, Algeria and Turkey.[201]

Lastly, France has always had a special relationship with Algeria which may or may not allow Algerian more access to France on a semi permanent or permanent basis.

Dusty on August 26, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Has anyone polled Dearbornistan?

stvnscott on August 26, 2014 at 2:02 PM

I followed the links, but couldn’t find the questions.

That’s what matters. You’re looking at informative static, where people who don’t know dck about the combatants are lumping them in as one group.

For example, Lebanon and Turkey have direct cultural relations with France. If some French think ISIS is the Free Syrian Army, they would have polled supportive back in July.

I mean, we have a President who thought the Muslim Brotherhood was a political party and that a group of elite Egyptians, Libyans and Syrians could stage a successful coup, with zero military experience.

budfox on August 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM

There are tens of thousands of young Muslim males living in the country who are still viewed as “outsiders”.

You’re off the rails already. While many French see them as ‘outsiders’ the primary issue and problem is that these tens of thousands of North African Muslims absolutely refuse to assimilate into French society….they believe that France needs to assimilate and accept fundamentalist Islam.

Yet the racist French have refused to learn the languages of the ME or to significantly adjust their culture.

Like a complete pinheaded liberal, you blame the victim not the perpetrator.

Due to French stubbornness, these males are completely unemployable and have now been forced to resort to arson and rape just to express their frustration at their oppressors.

Nothing like a liberal troll to pontificate on a) something he has absolutely no knowledge of, b) project, c) and continue to blame the victim as opposed to blaming the aggressor and the one really seeking to fundamentally change French society towards Islamic fundamentalism.

Frank Lib on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

You, Sir, are a moron who needs to up his trolling game significantly.

Athos on August 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Didn’t they demand 26 Million for the MAN? Now your telling me that ISIS is anti-women too?

D-fusit on August 26, 2014 at 1:59 PM

D-fusit: Ahems,..ya, not on the same parity thingy:)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734792/ISIS-demand-6-6million-ransom-26-year-old-American-woman-held-hostage.html

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Every muslim teaching except for anti-semitism.

Fenris on August 26, 2014 at 1:50 PM


And having sex with little girls

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM

BREAKING: American Muslim Convert Killed Fighting Alongside ISIS…

Feel good story of the day.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM

RWM:Love your title,…I wonder how many Westerners
switched over to Allah Snack Bar Troops!;0

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Have any Frenchmen been beheaded publicly……yet?

d1carter on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM


Heard of it?!?

They invented it!!!

Guillotine sales skyrocket!

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Be interesting to see the correlation between the percentage of the French population that is now Muslim, and that number. Bet it’s a virtual tie.

PJ Emeritus on August 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Not shocking I guess??

sorrowen on August 26, 2014 at 2:15 PM

This is not surprising, given the heavy anti-Israeli and pro-Arab slant of the French news media. Their coverage of all things Middle East is so pro-Arab it would make MSNBC look right-wing.

I lived in France from 1985 through 1996, and the French coverage of all conflicts between Israel and the Palestinians would turn a few Palestinian children into martyrs for a week at a time, with no mention of the thousands of rockets landing in Israel, or crowded buses and nightclubs exploding in Israel.

The French media’s coverage of the Iraq war was also heavily anti-Bush, so that some Frenchmen would see ISIS as the Arab world’s revenge against the evil Zhorzh Dooblavay Boosh. Of course, the French media never mentioned that some of the chemical weapons found in Iraq by UN inspectors in 2002 and 2003 were “fabrique’ en France”.

With such relentless Arab propaganda in France, with no “fair and balanced” Fox News there, it’s not surprising that some Frenchmen feel sorry for the ISIS butchers.

Steve Z on August 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Every muslim teaching except for anti-semitism.

Fenris on August 26, 2014 at 1:50 PM

And having sex with little girls

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Now you’re arguing with yourself! Well, at least we can agree that the culture of the French army is superior to the Middle East rabble, and would never surrender except at the first opportunity.

Fenris on August 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Islamic immigration

weedisgood on August 26, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Consistent with Jews leaving France and heading for the hot war in Israel in record numbers.

talkingpoints on August 26, 2014 at 2:23 PM

ISR Prep over Syria:

U.S. Lays Groundwork for Syria Strike
Pentagon Seeks to Gather Intelligence on Islamic State Targets With Surveillance Flights
Updated Aug. 25, 2014 8:28 p.m. ET
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The Pentagon is preparing to send surveillance aircraft, including drones, into Syrian airspace to gather intelligence on Islamist targets, laying the groundwork for a possible expansion of the limited U.S. military air campaign beyond Iraq, senior U.S. officials said.

The decision amounts to an acknowledgment that U.S. intelligence-collection efforts must be expanded to provide a better picture of the threat posed by the group calling itself the Islamic State, which holds large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory. It is…
(More…)
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-prepares-for-surveillance-flights-over-syria-1409005925

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM

ISL is not used to tree lined streets like France has.The Germans used them for shade when they marched in.ISL will cut them down to use in the crucifixions.

docflash on August 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Due to French stubbornness, these males are completely unemployable and have now been forced to resort to arson and rape just to express their frustration at their oppressors.

Frank Lib on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Their oppressors? Those males are reaping the benefits of a peaceful (at least until they showed up), liberal society in which they or their parents have voluntarily chosen to live. How then is it that they are oppressed? Or is your statement just liberal, multicultural hogwash? Are you attempting to justify their rapes and arson?
The French are stubborn in trying to preserve their own society, and their own customs, and their own rule of law against an ideology which throughout its history has proven to be intolerant, barbaric, oppressive, ruthless, and despotic.
The French should just deport all of the disenfranchised males to Syria or Iraq, and let them fend for themselves. Then they would have a firsthand glimpse of just how oppressive, or not, French society is.

bobthm3 on August 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Frank Lib on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

You, Sir, are a moron who needs to up his trolling game significantly.

Athos on August 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM

It’s a put-on. You need to read his posts as the intended mockery of the liberal worldview. Read correctly, they are very funny. He has one on the global warming thread today as well.

talkingpoints on August 26, 2014 at 2:27 PM

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State Department, asked about female US aid worker reportedly held by Islamic State: ‘I’m not going to confirm other details about detained Americans’ – @HannahAllam

https://twitter.com/HannahAllam

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 2:28 PM

UGHS:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller

Retweeted by Zeke Miller
Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 1m

Psaki says they are “providing all possible consular assistance” to the family of the American who was killed fighting for ISIS in Syria

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 2:39 PM

French people are absolutely the lowest of the low. I absolutely despise them. They are true scum to their very DNA. I truly wish misery on all French scum. Can we please just flush these maggots down the toilet once an for all?

They are the worst of people. (The Koran was right for once! 98:6)

Die French scum! Shove a baguette up your butts and DIE!!! Idiots! Scum!

WhatSlushfund on August 26, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Seriously, watch a French movie. That’s not some characterization, that’s how they really are! I hope they die.

Existentialism blah blah. I hope you all die!! Pretentious morons.

DIE FRENCH SCUM!!!

WhatSlushfund on August 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Most likely reason is that there are more Muslims in France then they like to admit. I posit that France is now close to 18-20% Muslim that easily explains the loll result without contortionist explanations about non Muslims agreeing with ISIS. Kinda like the fiction in the U.S.A. about the 11 Million illegals … America clearly has close to 30 Million illegals here now.

blogforce one on August 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM

16% still prefer the guillotine. No matter.

Bmore on August 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Frank Lib on August 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

You, Sir, are a moron who needs to up his trolling game significantly.

Athos on August 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM

It’s a put-on. You need to read his posts as the intended mockery of the liberal worldview. Read correctly, they are very funny. He has one on the global warming thread today as well.

talkingpoints on August 26, 2014 at 2:27 PM

What you have missed tp, is that Athos knows that and his response is a put-on response to a put-on.

slickwillie2001 on August 26, 2014 at 2:45 PM

“People” or muslims?

blackgriffin on August 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 2m

CENTCOM: U.S. conducted two airstrikes on ISIL vehicles near Erbil, bringing total since Aug 8 to 98

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller

canopfor on August 26, 2014 at 3:09 PM

A positive view of ISIS should be a litmus test for throwing people out of the western hemisphere.

Zenji on August 26, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Draw a straight line from the French Revolution to here. So now we’re going to have to bomb the French? Get their nukes and subs early.

Mason on August 26, 2014 at 3:22 PM

WhatSlushfund

You’re minimizing again.

Mason on August 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Sounds like France needs another round of car-be-ques

Rusty Nail on August 26, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Have any Frenchmen been beheaded publicly……yet?

d1carter on August 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

No need—France pays ransoms.

Kevin K. on August 26, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I’ll guess they’re going to haver to change the trees along the roads to palms.

Bear in mind, France has a problem with illegal Muslim immigrants equal in scope to the one America has with the Mexican border.

PolAgnostic on August 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM

In the 1860s, France was the illegal immigrant in Mexico, so this is just payback.

formwiz on August 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM

put-on response to a put-on.

slickwillie2001 on August 26, 2014 at 2:45 PM

This thread is filled with tune opportunities.

Bmore on August 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Hmmm poly vu francais?

jake49 on August 26, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The French are like Californians. On steroids.

applebutter on August 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Bear in mind, per Andrew Stiles, that France is only 5-10 percent Muslim. Even if every Muslim in the country were pro-ISIS, you’d still need a chunk of non-Muslims giving thumbs up to these lunatics to get to 16 percent.

However, the percentage of fools, morons, ignoramuses, useful idiots, and assorted nut jobs is more than enough to make up the difference.

farsighted on August 26, 2014 at 6:14 PM