CNN audio: Is this the moment Michael Brown was shot?

posted at 11:21 am on August 26, 2014 by Allahpundit

They haven’t verified that the recording is what it claims to be, but with competition for this story among the media so ferocious, go figure that they’d choose to put it on the air and worry about authenticity later. As of last night, the FBI was investigating; between the guy’s IP and the fact that the video file is presumably timestamped, I assume they’ll be able to verify or debunk it quickly. It could be a prank — the man who recorded it seems to be, er, “enjoying” a video chat while it happened — but what he’s caught saying is tame. If you were going to prank CNN by getting them to air something sexually explicit in the name of reporting news, you’d be more explicit than this, no?

If it’s authentic, it tells us how many shots were fired. The man’s attorney tells Don Lemon she hears 11 shots. I hear 10. A forensic examiner who listened to the tape told CNN he heard “at least 10,” six shots followed by a pause followed by four more. The autopsy report from the family’s forensic pathologist claims Brown was hit at least six times, all from the front. That means that he was hit at least twice in the first flurry of six shots heard here, and furthermore that he was facing Wilson at some point during that flurry. It’s bizarre to me that Brown would have turned back to face a man who was still in the process of firing at him at fairly close range, but I don’t know what other conclusion can be drawn based on what we know. The fact that Brown had apparently been wounded before the fateful pause, during which he either rushed Wilson or tried to surrender, is also important. The prosecution will argue that Wilson, having already drawn blood, should have realized that a weakened Brown was no longer as much of a physical threat. Wilson will argue that he felt threatened precisely because Brown allegedly kept coming after he was wounded. A man strong enough to take two shots and angry enough about it to advance on a cop with a gun was lethally dangerous, he’ll say.

Here’s how Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, described what happened to them:

Now, in line with the officer’s driver’s side door, they could see the officer’s face. They heard him say something to the effect of, “what’d you say?” At the same time, Johnson says the officer attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into Brown and bounced closed. Johnson says the officer, with his left hand, grabbed Brown by the neck…

At that moment, Johnson says he fixed his gaze on the officer to see if he was pulling a stun gun or a real gun. That’s when he saw the muzzle of the officer’s gun.

“I seen the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” he said. “He had it pointed at him and said ‘I’ll shoot,’ one more time.”

A second later Johnson said he heard the first shot go off…

Johnson says he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer. He looked over at Brown and saw blood pooling through his shirt on the right side of the body.

“The whole time [the officer] was holding my friend until the gun went off,” Johnson noted.

Brown and Johnson took off running together. There were three cars lined up along the side of the street. Johnson says he ducked behind the first car, whose two passengers were screaming. Crouching down a bit, he watched Brown run past.

“Keep running, bro!,” he said Brown yelled. Then Brown yelled it a second time. Those would be the last words Johnson’s friend, “Big Mike,” would ever say to him.

Brown made it past the third car. Then, “blam!” the officer took his second shot, striking Brown in the back. At that point, Johnson says Brown stopped, turned with his hands up and said “I don’t have a gun, stop shooting!”

According to Johnson, then, the first shot to hit Brown was fired while Wilson was still sitting in the squad car struggling with him, which at least would explain how Brown was hit from the front during the first flurry. Brown then managed to run three car lengths before Wilson — presumably still inside the car — fired his second shot, hitting Brown in the back. We know from the autopsy report that the last detail is false; after listening to this audio, the timeline on the first part seems false too. There’s virtually no delay between the first and second shots fired, certainly not long enough for words to be exchanged between Brown and Johnson. Unless the audio here picks up after the first shot was fired, i.e. unless it begins with what’s actually the second shot fired at Brown, I don’t know how to square Johnson’s account with this.

Here’s what the NYT said about what eyewitnesses have told police:

Some of the accounts seem to agree on how the fatal altercation initially unfolded: with a struggle between the officer, Darren Wilson, and the teenager, Michael Brown. Officer Wilson was inside his patrol car at the time, while Mr. Brown, who was unarmed, was leaning in through an open window.

Many witnesses also agreed on what happened next: Officer Wilson’s firearm went off inside the car, Mr. Brown ran away, the officer got out of his car and began firing toward Mr. Brown, and then Mr. Brown stopped, turned around and faced the officer.

That seems more likely than Wilson squeezing off a bunch of rounds while still inside his car. But in that case, since there must have been a delay of a second or two between the first shot that went off inside the car, Wilson getting out of the car, taking aim at Brown, and then firing again, where’s that delay on the audio? The first six shots are basically continuous.

Exit question: Can anything be discerned from the length of the pause between flurries? Johnson says Brown put his hands up and tried to surrender, saying, “I don’t have a gun, stop shooting!” Wilson’s alleged friend, Josie, told Dana Loesch that Brown taunted Wilson and then rushed him. Does the length of the pause here rule either of those out?


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…you so fiiiine

Stray Cat on August 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

So. What kind of gun did officer Brown have and how many rounds were left after the shooting?

AH_C on August 26, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Sig Sauer P229, .40, 12+1.

slickwillie2001 on August 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM

If you heard the same fireworks on July 3,4,5 you probably wouldn’t have worried about it. Your brain would have naturally thought it was fireworks.

petunia on August 26, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Actually, I likely would have, since these weren’t little firecrackers. The first one sounded like an M80, and I wanted to make sure that no one had caused any damage or hurt someone nearby.

But, yes, if this stuff happens all the time in your neighborhood, then you might ignore it. But almost a dozen shots? Hmmmmm….

Yeah, this recording could be kosher. But as melle said, it smells.

GWB on August 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM

birdwatcher on August 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I’ve seen similar and I also was driven to the station and booked twice in my life for nothing but being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both times the cop was a pr**k though they got nicer once they figured out their mistake. I’ve also been insulted and harassed by cops. Oh, and I’ve known some good ones. I’ve been to a few cop parties.

Your story is hellish though and it psses me off. If it happened to me I’d carry it around with me for years. Something is mentally off about a lot of cops. Some control freak hero complex bully something or other.

Of course none of that relates to this case where a psycho, high 300pd man had just robbed a store and then probably punched a cop. I hate police brutality. It’s so enraging to see some mediocre jerks in uniform feel like they have free reign to humiliate and abuse other , better people, not in a uniform. And it’s infuriating that the cops , like school teachers, protect the worst of their lot. But this case has nothing to do with all that. Anyway, I prefer cops over criminals by a wide margin. Street thugs will do worst to you than cops. Criminal thugs all ,to a man, have no shame and they barely care about their own life.

BoxHead1 on August 26, 2014 at 3:42 PM

On a different point, I would note that the folks concerned the video chat guy apparently took no notice of the shots fired fail to consider that the sound of shots fired might be pretty commonplace in that neighborhood… novaculus on August 26, 2014 at 3:06 PM

If so, then he would be aware that bullets sometimes go through walls and windows and maybe even hit people.

His reaction would have been less “What the…” and more “Oh shiite!” Instead, nothing. So, fishy.

Akzed on August 26, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Obama wants a race war. Nothing to see on white male shot by black cop in Utah.

alanstern on August 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Not possible. As libfree has explained, blacks are the only people who are ever harmed or abused by cops. White people apparently have some special force field around them that makes them immune from victimization by the police (of any race or gender).

And if you don’t believe that, it’s clearly because your mind has been twisted by raaaaaaacism for so long!

AZCoyote on August 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM

And if you don’t believe that, it’s clearly because your mind has been twisted by raaaaaaacism for so long! AZCoyote on August 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Exactly. It’s a self-proving proof.

Akzed on August 26, 2014 at 3:55 PM

birdwatcher on August 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM

BoxHead1 on August 26, 2014 at 3:42 PM

I recently had a friend take a young woman to his house after an evening of cocktails at one of the local watering holes.

He awoke at 5:00AM in his own home, with the young woman next to him, and a police officer’s boot firmly planted on his chest.

Apparently the police officer didn’t like his wife spending the night with other men and had somehow miraculously tracked her down, even though her car remained parked at the watering hole 5+ miles away.

I urged my friend to report the incident, but he refused. He did not realize she was married (no ring) and felt awful about the whole situation. He felt the police officer was justified in his anger. My friend has since moved several area codes away. It troubles me that the cop is most likely still patrolling the streets in my city.

airupthere on August 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM

CNN: Da Plane! Da Plane! Da Black Hole! Da Black Hole! Da Ferguson Smoking Tape! Da Ferguson Smoking Tape!

Resist We Much on August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Not possible. As libfree has explained, blacks are the only people who are ever harmed or abused by cops. White people apparently have some special force field around them that makes them immune from victimization by the police (of any race or gender).
AZCoyote on August 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Maybe we sparkle – like the Twilight vampires.
We just can’t see it ourselves – but cops and minorities can…..

dentarthurdent on August 26, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Here’s a link to the story about the black cop in Utah who recently shot dead an unarmed white (or “white hispanic”?) man.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/25/critics-see-racial-double-standard-in-coverage-of-/

Of course, this didn’t really happen (which is probably why most of the MSM has ignored it), because only blacks can ever be victimized by cops (and if you don’t believe that, you’re just raaaaacist, right libfree?). This is also why there will be no rioting and looting in Utah in response to the killing. Because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

AZCoyote on August 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Race-bait

Bmore on August 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

airupthere on August 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Ummmm…. I gotta go with your friend on this one. The fact it was a cop is pretty irrelevant unless he arrested your friend.

Bmore on August 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Yeah, saw that one yesterday. The guy really should have exercised his 2d Amendment rights in that situation. (I’m assuming it is as the report indicates.)

GWB on August 26, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The real question is, and always has been, why did Wilson draw his gun in the first place? The suspect was unarmed and fleeing. I’ve never understood why he pulled his gun in the first place.
K. Hobbit on August 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM

How on earth could you possibly know if the suspect was fleeing? And given the very little what we do know for sure, why would you find it reasonable that a suspect would flee in a backwards motion?

anuts on August 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

The real question is, and always has been, why did Wilson draw his gun in the first place? The suspect was unarmed and fleeing. I’ve never understood why he pulled his gun in the first place.
K. Hobbit on August 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM

how do you shoot a fleeing person in the front?
wilson got super speed and ran past him, turned and then fired at him?

dmacleo on August 26, 2014 at 5:19 PM

how do you shoot a fleeing person in the front?
wilson got super speed and ran past him, turned and then fired at him?

dmacleo on August 26, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Brown was a Michael Jackson fan and did a fast moonwalk….

dentarthurdent on August 26, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Yes, ten shots with echoes. Six and then four.

princetrumpet on August 26, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I wish real information would come out. I mean the actual police report, and the actual autopsy, and the actual toxicology report. And the actual juvenile record of Michael Brown.

I have pieced together what I think happened. But I am going off rumors. And that isn’t good.

The authorities need to put out real information.

Because my opinion is hardening. And if this really was a rogue cop who shot an innocent teen… I don’t want to be guilty of ignoring that.

It is also psychologically more satisfying to think that the police aren’t out there shooting teens just minding their own business.

If they are doing that we need some proof.

petunia on August 26, 2014 at 5:32 PM

So did everybody back then, but we didn’t replace or augment the tobacco with pot, as no doubt these punks were planning to do.

TXUS on August 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Weeeelll, maybe you.

katy the mean old lady on August 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I wish real information would come out. I mean the actual police report, and the actual autopsy, and the actual toxicology report. And the actual juvenile record of Michael Brown.

petunia on August 26, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Recently, in Durham, NC, a teenager died in the back of a police car from a gunshot wound. The lack of information regarding the circumstances made the community agitators go into overdrive with accusations against the police department. After two or three weeks of protests and property damage, the (Hispanic) Durham Police Chief released the autopsy and police report. Apparently, the troubled teen had a stolen semi-auto pistol in his backpack, and thinking he was in some serious trouble, was able to shoot himself in the head as the officer was pulling into the police station. In my opinion, there was no reason to hold all the information so close to their vests for three weeks. So, during that time, Durham citizens were treated to almost daily demonstrations and vandalism.

See: http://www.wral.com/family-wants-fbi-probe-of-durham-pd-after-teen-s-death-/13206475/

and

http://bearingarms.com/durham-nc-police-tight-lipped-on-in-custody-shooting-of-teen-the-credibility-of-the-police-department-is-at-stake/

BigAlSouth on August 26, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Ummmm…. I gotta go with your friend on this one. The fact it was a cop is pretty irrelevant unless he arrested your friend.

GWB on August 26, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Yeah accept that the cop entered the guy’s pad illegally and assaulted him – that might not go down well for a cop’s career.

Stray Cat on August 26, 2014 at 7:22 PM

0′s legacy.

Bmore on August 26, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Here’s how Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, described what happened to them:

Sure, quote the partner in crime as a witness, even though his claims contradict the autopsy that found that Brown was shot six times, all from the front, and even though he actually claims the policeman reached through his car window and pulled the 300-lb man into the car.

If you want to know why Obama is the president, here it is: just watch the power of a bunch of white men trying to prove they’re really not racist.

They’ll accept the flimsiest claims, overlook the biggest crimes, assume the white man defending himself must have done SOMETHING to set off the criminal — all to maintain the appearance of being above any possible accusation of racism.

Why, it’s almost like the way the left will excuse any actions done by radical Muslims, and assume that they must have been provoked by SOMETHING we did, and they just can’t help themselves.

Michael Brown was a thug who threw his weight around against people much smaller than he was. To suggest he may have been high on drugs is an act of charity, since it might explain his hostility and willingness to attack a policeman he already knew was armed, and his attempt to rush him anyway. This much is obvious even from watching the video of him robbing a store. It may yet be true that the shooting is found to be unjustified to one degree or another, but the whitewashing of this violent thug needs to stop. No one needs to submit to a beating just because the attacker is black.

It’s a painful truth that many young black men are violent criminals. I believe it has more to do with the breakdown of the family in these communities than the race, but regardless of troubleshooting the cause, the fact of black violence in America is undeniable.

But once again, we see all attempts to deal with the real world and real problems are flushed down the toilet once the race card is played.

The race card caused the housing bubble and the economic collapse that swept Obama into power. The CRA demanded banks make loans in bad neighborhoods or be charged with “redlining” based on presumed racism. Banks couldn’t make those loans without losing money on them, so they lobbied for relief. FNMA and FRMC completely changed their lending standards to make it easier for minorities to own houses — a laudable goal, but it was foolish to distort the entire housing market.

And when it became obvious that the new standards were unsustainable, and that FNMA/FRMC were in real trouble, Bush pushed the Republicans in Congress to reform the housing market before it was too late. It was not popular, but it would have happened.

But it didn’t happen, because the entire Congressional Black Caucus — all Democrats — joined forces to paint the effort as racially insensitive.

And just like that, the entire Congress caved rather than allow themselves to be painted as racists.

So when the economy finally blows, it’s blamed on Bush (of course) and Obama is elected.

Until we learn not to let ourselves be manipulated by ginned-up charges of racism, we will continue on this downhill path.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 26, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Allah
Now you’re just making up shit

TexasJew on August 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Furthermore – Brown was 6′ 4″ or so (“depending on which convenicence store he’s leaving…”) and the cop was supposedly seated in the car when he grabbed Brown by the neck?
How long are Officer Wilson’s arms anyway?

dentarthurdent on August 26, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Such a skeptic.
Haven’t you heard of the long arm of the law?

justltl on August 27, 2014 at 9:29 AM

I’d recommend Best Buy for looting.
The clerks help you make a good selection, make sure that you have the right cables and such and, if you require a cane for walking, as do I, will help you get your items out to your car.
They will try to sell you an extended warranty plan, however, so you want to avoid that.

justltl on August 27, 2014 at 9:44 AM

On the other hand, I found looting at Florida Tile to be a total waste of time.

justltl on August 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM

I have a problem with even quoting or talking about this. Just because CNN reported it, doesn’t make news or true. We keep falling for this.

So, if and when this gets proven to be fake, will the lawyer who brought it forward to make it the “truth” people will refer to forever, go to jail? Will the person who swears it was from the shooting go to jail? Nope. But a million people will swear forever that this was legit. Just ask Zimmerman.

Now if it is real, it does represent exactly what a police officer would do. Shoot, assess, shoot. It also explains why he missed. Nobody hits anything at that speed, unless it is really close. The last set of pop-pop-pop-pop would explain the vertical tracking of the wounds, called the “Glock rip”.

But none of that matters UNTIL we verify the audio as valid.

archer52 on August 27, 2014 at 11:33 AM

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