MSNBC: White House says we “should not expect something huge” on executive amnesty, just five million people or so

posted at 4:01 pm on August 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

Skip to 2:00 if you think I’m kidding. Even amnesty mega-shill Luis Gutierrez, who appears later in the clip, is stunned at the idea that unilaterally legalizing roughly half of America’s illegal population now counts as some sort of half-measure.

But given the numbers immigration activists are kicking around, that’s basically correct, isn’t it?

I’m intrigued by the timeline that Jansing gives too. The Hill had a piece this morning speculating that this would be the week for O to make his move. He’s leaving the country next week on a trip to Estonia and Wales, so if he issued his order now, he could get out of dodge as the backlash starts heating up. He’d also benefit from not having Congress in session and readily available for media hits criticizing him. And he promised a few months ago to do it before the end of summer, which, given the congressional recess, usually means by the end of August. Forget all of that, though, says Jansing. Aides now say he won’t do it until he gets back from his trip. I suppose that’s good news to congressional Dems who don’t want to be left holding the bag on this for a week while Obama’s away, but it pushes the timeline even closer to the midterms, which raises the risk of a damaging backlash. Either O thinks this will be a net winner for him politically or, perhaps, he’s buying a little more time for the border crisis to slip fully off the news radar before he does it. It could also be that he’s counting on some congressional Republicans to go nuts over the order and thus wants them around when it happens, so that the media can pick up their initial reflexive reactions. In that case, better to wait until everyone’s back.

Maybe he’s simply biding his time until the public is less focused on Ferguson and Iraq and can concentrate fully on immigration? Again, given the risky politics of all this, I would think he’d want to bury a mega-amnesty news-wise as much as possible.


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i’m wondering if this is in the same file as the Foley rescue.

formwiz on August 25, 2014 at 4:03 PM

The day after elections?

antisocial on August 25, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Si se puede, which way to the voting booth?

otlset on August 25, 2014 at 4:05 PM

5 million…and, what..the others will be found and deported? People still trust what this lying communist says??? Unbelievable.

Mimzey on August 25, 2014 at 4:06 PM

So what? All illegals that last name ends in J & R will receive amnesty?

How the hell is anyone going to know who is who or what is what?

Just more Cloward/Piven…..

redguy on August 25, 2014 at 4:07 PM

While he’s away, maybe we can relocate some of those illegals into the White House. Obama will feel right at home when he gets back!!

Deano1952 on August 25, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Si se puede, which way to the voting booth?

otlset on August 25, 2014 at 4:05 PM

And how much do I get paid to vote???

Idea of an L.A. Voteria is gaining currency

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-lopez-voteria-20140820-column.html

redguy on August 25, 2014 at 4:08 PM

He’ll cave. Whatever he does will be criticized by Dems as marginal.

BKeyser on August 25, 2014 at 4:09 PM

My prediction: We will keep getting slow drips about the total number over the next few weeks and that number will keep decreasing. The goal is to do something large enough to satisfy the base but small enough to avoid a constitutional challenge.

If he was going big, there would be no reason to delay it.

chuckfinlay on August 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM

MSNBC: White House says we “should not expect something huge” on executive amnesty, just five million people or so

Which in Common Core math means ten million new Dem voters.

So, when’s D.C. going to mandate that autos sold in the U.S. have bigger trunks?

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2014 at 4:11 PM

So 5 million democrat votes right before the midterms?

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Maybe he’s simply biding his time until the public is less focused on Ferguson and Iraq and can concentrate fully on immigration? Again, given the risky politics of all this, I would think he’d want to bury a mega-amnesty news-wise as much as possible.

How in the hell do you bury an executive amnesty for 5 million people?! Aside from his base which is full of ignorant, low information morons.

Doughboy on August 25, 2014 at 4:13 PM

FORE!

Good Lt on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Obama is waiting for an “Elian Gonzalez” moment. Or he might manufacture one.

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I dare you, Barry. Landslide City.

cdog0613 on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

So he gives amnesty to 5 million. Not like the other 10 million can’t stay too.

leftamark on August 25, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Obama is late for everything.

“Ditherer-In-Chief”

MichaelGabriel on August 25, 2014 at 4:17 PM

One hopes the lawsuits are ready to go on this action.

albill on August 25, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Gee, do they have golf courses in Wales?

nukemhill on August 25, 2014 at 4:18 PM

FORE!

Good Lt on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

No…Five

leftamark on August 25, 2014 at 4:18 PM

would think he’d want to bury a mega-amnesty news-wise as much as possible.

for sure

cmsinaz on August 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Duh. SmirkyG and the other shills toss around cuckoo numbers like 5 million so that when Oblabla amnesties only 800,000 or so, it will be widely praised as a hugely moderate compromise.

cynccook on August 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Obama is waiting for an “Elian Gonzalez” moment. Or he might manufacture one.

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Elian Gonzalez was about sending the boy from Miami back to his relatives in Cuba.
If Obama did an Elian G. he would insist all the illegal kids he enticed to coming to the US would go back to their Central American families and relatives.

albill on August 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Elian Gonzalez was about sending the boy from Miami back to his relatives in Cuba.
If Obama did an Elian G. he would insist all the illegal kids he enticed to coming to the US would go back to their Central American families and relatives.

albill on August 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I am specifically talking about the famous photo of gunman storming in and taking him. He’ll milk sympathy out of everyone, including the Ericksons & Beck’s who demand teddy bears and hoola hoops for the illegal kids.

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:22 PM

ISIS and the open borders are now one.

obama owns both and they will be his legacy.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2014 at 4:22 PM

This is all election year smack talk to mobilize the base. Obama may be stupid but even he won’t EO Amnesty before November.

Johnnyreb on August 25, 2014 at 4:24 PM

ISIS clubbed him over that stupid head.

You thought he was demented before?

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2014 at 4:24 PM

pretty much what I was expecting.
Run the numbers up as high as you can, get the outrage out early. Then drop the numbers and imagine, probably correctly, that the outrage will be far less than if you just simply dropped it onto people from no where. Really, I got little faith in the average American.

astonerii on August 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM

This is all election year smack talk to mobilize the base. Obama may be stupid but even he won’t EO Amnesty before November.

Johnnyreb on August 25, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If he passes it the blacks, the poor, the middle class, all the legal minorities and taxpayers will either not vote or vote against the oaf, who’s chief.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Hard to be arrested for treason when you’re on the run

SirGawain on August 25, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Apparently, they have more rights that law abiding citizens.

They certainly have better representation.

LilyBart on August 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM

The republicans won’t fight it. Here are 3 reasons that this issue is so important.

1.If x is the new baseline for executive amnesties then
x = 5million. And x will be applied n times this decade where x*n = All illegals

2. 5million legal non felons (but not citizens) without congressional representation(no vote) is Un American. We don’t have a serf class in America. Therefore it will be very easy for them to agitate for voting rights.

3. They didn’t come here because they love America , her people and her Constitution. Guess who they will vote for. Whoever gives more.

BoxHead1 on August 25, 2014 at 4:32 PM

This is all election year smack talk to mobilize the base. Obama may be stupid but even he won’t EO Amnesty before November.

Johnnyreb on August 25, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Think he gives a ratsass anymore if he has a republican Congress?

leftamark on August 25, 2014 at 4:35 PM

If he does, it will not be primarily characterized as a number. It’ll be some classification of supposedly downtrodden people. Hardworking vegetable pickers, orphans and widows, dreamers. That doesn’t mean those will actually be the people; just what they claim.

Fenris on August 25, 2014 at 4:38 PM

If he passes it the blacks, the poor, the middle class, all the legal minorities and taxpayers will either not vote or vote against the oaf, who’s chief.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I don’t know what makes you think that. Maybe the black vote will drop a few points, but most won’t pay attention and, if they vote at all, it will be for uncle sugar daddy and against the evil republicans.

Fenris on August 25, 2014 at 4:41 PM

He’s leaving the country next week on a trip to Estonia and Wales, so if he issued his order now, he could get out of dodge as the backlash starts heating up. He’d also benefit from not having Congress in session and readily available for media hits criticizing him.

Who wrote this and what century are they living in?

Is the President going to go sailing off to Europe on a trans-Atlantic steamer, unreachable even by those newfangled telegrams?

Will Congress have to climb out of their stgecoaches in a week or two to read the newspapers at the Pony Express office while they trek back to their districts?

Dolce Far Niente on August 25, 2014 at 4:43 PM

I love how she thinks that this trip might open his eyes. (Pun intended)

He’s been there and seen that a number of times. He comes into the discussion better-informed than most, and certainly more so than the airhead interviewing him. I’m no Randian, but he strides along this segment as a giant, with intellectual midgets clutching at his knees.

Prufrock on August 25, 2014 at 4:45 PM

So 5 million democrat votes right before the midterms?

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Aren’t they voting anyway? ;)

Prufrock on August 25, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Just one is a huge number. In order to get amnesty they have to be convicted first, don’t they? What about all of those with fake ID’s and Social Security numbers. They are felons and identity thieves. They should never get amnesty.

DAT60A3 on August 25, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Didn’t know Estonia had great golf courses.

Why else would he go?

MichaelGabriel on August 25, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I dare you, Barry. Landslide City.

cdog0613 on August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

F*ck that. I want war in the streets if he goes this route.

I’m not kidding. Elections are already virtually worthless – after this, forget it.

Midas on August 25, 2014 at 4:48 PM

If he passes it the blacks, the poor, the middle class, all the legal minorities and taxpayers will either not vote or vote against the oaf, who’s chief.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Meh; won’t dent their vote a bit.

Midas on August 25, 2014 at 4:50 PM

And of course, this will trigger a brand new wave of illegal aliens, making the current border crisis even worse. Has anybody (besides conservatives) figured out yet that these treasonous bastards do not have America’s best interests at heart?

Wake up – Reagan Democrats, working class Americans of all stripes, blacks and Hispanics here legally – this one is aimed at YOU!

TarheelBen on August 25, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Aren’t they voting anyway? ;)

Prufrock on August 25, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Like the joke says: My grandfather used to be a Republican. Now that he is dead, he votes Democrat.

DAT60A3 on August 25, 2014 at 4:52 PM

So 5 million democrat votes right before the midterms?

portlandon on August 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Aren’t they voting anyway? ;)

Prufrock on August 25, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Yes, they just aren’t aware of there votes being counted.

Fenris on August 25, 2014 at 4:53 PM

King Barack does it before the elections, he risks getting a House and Senate with a majority to over-ride any presidential veto.

He waits until after, Republicans may not get enough for that over-ride.

So, does King Barack feel lucky?

In the meantime he’s probably doing a focus group on excuses he can use for doing nothing. The Hispanics will still love him.

GarandFan on August 25, 2014 at 5:12 PM

– Reagan Democrats, working class Americans of all stripes, blacks and Hispanics here legally – TarheelBen on August 25, 2014 at 4:52 PM

been saying the same thing myself.

it’s a sign the wars lost.

too stupid to even look out for their own best interests.

proof positive that liberalism is a mental disorder.

renalin on August 25, 2014 at 5:16 PM

My Spidey Sense tells me the sign ups for Obama-Democrat Care are going to be about 5 million more than the last time and the food stamp program is going to have a very similar amount of new people on it.

jukin3 on August 25, 2014 at 5:21 PM

If he does this, he;d better change his name from B.H. Obama to I.M. Peach.

profitsbeard on August 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM

If he does this, he;d better change his name from B.H. Obama to I.M. Peach.

profitsbeard on August 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM

OK, but not until the NEXT election…

leftamark on August 25, 2014 at 5:33 PM

If he does this, he;d better change his name from B.H. Obama to I.M. Peach.

profitsbeard on August 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You think so? Impeach him?? No one has the balls to even criticize him. Near endless violations and scoffing at any laws he doesn’t like, and all the repubs do is furrow their brow and wag their fingers at him.

Mimzey on August 25, 2014 at 5:34 PM

It could be that 5 million is kind of small if there are really 30 million illegals in the country instead of 11 million.

KMav on August 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM

5 million newly ‘legal’ illegals suddenly competing for blue collar jobs. Get ready for the upcoming Democrat circular firing squad.

rmkdbq on August 25, 2014 at 5:55 PM

I wouldn’t trust Chris Jansing or Diaz-Balart on anything…

EastofEden on August 25, 2014 at 6:00 PM

If he does this, he’d better change his name from B.H. Obama to I.M. Peach.

profitsbeard on August 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You think so? Impeach him?? No one has the balls to even criticize him. Near endless violations and scoffing at any laws he doesn’t like, and all the repubs do is furrow their brow and wag their fingers at him.

Mimzey on August 25, 2014 at 5:34 PM

If such an act of tyrannical over-reach and de facto demographic terrorism does not rouse the American people to demand thar he be reined in, we might as were surrender to ISIS and get it over with.

The country will slide into a Balkanized Third World Crapistan anyway.

If our national and cultural survival instincts are so dead that we allow a despotic prig like Obama to get away with sanctifying a silent invasion of millions of “dreamers”, we’re doomed.

profitsbeard on August 25, 2014 at 6:43 PM

The executive order is coming..

And gutless, spineless, chicken$hit GOoPer goobers will not be able to do much about it except get their rubes riled up and shake a few dollars out of them.

Ned Pepper on August 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Does anyone not know what will happen if the first black president is impeached (and deservedly so)? This is when the LIVs really come out to vote. Has you folks ever heerd of Ferguson, MO?? And does you knows who will gets de blame??

AReadyRepub on August 26, 2014 at 1:16 AM