Report: Two times as many British Muslims fighting for ISIS as with U.K. armed forces

posted at 7:21 pm on August 20, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Americans were made acutely aware of the threat posed by Western jihadist fighters joining the ranks of ISIS in Syria and Iraq when a man with a London accent beheaded James Wright Foley as part of a taped ultimatum to President Barack Obama.

Inexplicably, President Barack Obama chose not to even abstractly address the nature of that threat, even though he plans to personally chair a meeting of the United Nations Security Council on precisely this subject next month.

A July intelligence estimate suggested that up to 3,000 ISIS militants were of European origin and 1,500 of those are young British Muslims, according to Birmingham MP Perry Barr. Framing the problem of Europe’s failure to assimilate its Muslim minorities perfectly, a new report indicates that there are more British Muslims fighting with Islamist militants in the Middle East than there are in the British armed forces.

According to the Ministry of Defense, there are only around 600 British Muslims currently serving in the Armed Forces, making up approximately around 0.4% of total personnel. 4.3% of the British population are Muslim.

The UK Foreign Office said that they believe over 400 individuals have travelled to Syria since the uprising began, but said that they could not give exact numbers.

However Mahmood described such low estimates as “nonsense” and said that the British government was failing to deal with the problem of home-grown extremists. “We’ve not concentrated on the prevention work, we haven’t invested enough in de-radicalisation. It’s tragic, somebody’s got to wake up to it.”

It is not an unfounded concern.

In August, 2013, two homegrown disaffected British Muslim men took to the streets of London where they beheaded a U.K. solider.

“We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you,” said Michael Adebolajo, a British citizen of Nigerian origin, with a thick East London accent after attacking the solider.

While the threat of homegrown terror may be diminished for now as the most critical front appears to be in Syria and Iraq, Western governments are smart to prepare for the worst. If ISIS cannot be stopped in the Middle East, the worst is almost certainly on its way.


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It ain’t just Londonistan that has a problem.

platypus on August 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Karma for perfidious Albion

avi natan on August 20, 2014 at 7:24 PM

And a percentage that are in the UK forces are saboteurs & hidden agents for ISIS.

portlandon on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Revoke their citizenship if they are found to have been in Syria or Iraq.

coolrepublica on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Hey, nothing to worry about – obama has gifted the world with this little pearl of wisdom:

“People like [ISIS] ultimately fail. Because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.”

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I don’t know, but it seems that all this multiculturalism outreach isn’t working…

ujorge on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Calling London…calling London…you have a problem…

albill on August 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM

“Putin uuuhhhh… won’t let me help you defeat Assad, thaaat’s okay, maybe you could invade Iraq…? Putin couldn’t hurt me that way. Uh, just add Iraq to your uh, name, and it’s all good.” -0b00ba

Akzed on August 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM

On top of this showing the idiocy of the British and European policy of allowing unrestricted immigration of radical Muslims, this shows that the ISIS monster is international. Still the cancer is concentrated right now in Iraq and Syria. In fact we hear that much of the leadership of ISIS is sheltering in Syria now. Obama says we must do everything we can “to destroy the cancer” of ISIS. But to limit strikes to Iraq and ignore the “cancer” in Syria is not going to be effective. You need to fully knock out the cancer because otherwise it will just grow back.

ISIS = Islamic State in Iraq and SYRIA

anotherJoe on August 20, 2014 at 7:32 PM

“People like [ISIS] ultimately fail. Because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.”

Yeah…saying that would have changed the mind of the psychos who chopped off Foley’s head….

albill on August 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

“People like [ISIS] ultimately fail. Because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.” -0b00ba

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” -0b00ba

Somewhere between those two statements… is… something.

Akzed on August 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

MeanWhile:

https://twitter.com/AP

The Associated Press @AP · 50m

BREAKING: Special forces sent to Syria to rescue US hostages this summer but couldn’t locate them, officials say
===============================================

https://twitter.com/marieharf

Marie Harf @marieharf · 54m

.@PentagonPresSec: We put the best of the United States military in harms way to try and bring our citizens home. (4/4)

Replied to 0 times

Marie Harf @marieharf · 54m

.@PentagonPresSec: Unfortunately, the mission was not successful because the hostages were not present at the targeted location. (3/4)

Replied to 0 times

Marie Harf @marieharf · 55m

.@PentagonPresSec: This operation involved air and ground components and was focused on a particular captor network within ISIL. (2/4)

Replied to 0 times

Marie Harf @marieharf · 55m

.@PentagonPresSec: The United States attempted a rescue operation recently to free a number of American hostages held in Syria by ISIL (1/4)

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Most of Europe has the same problem as London… People will wake up and it may turn ugly, very very ugly (an bloody), soon !

coolapic on August 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM

How many Americans have done the same..?

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Problem is, the un-assimilated ones are second and third generation, if not more. We — the whole West — doesn’t have a mechanism to remove the citizenship of third-generation citizens.

S. Weasel on August 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM

The Gates of Vienna have a lesson to teach, if we would but understand it.

Scribbler on August 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM

ISIS’ recruiting depends on the perception that are successful. We need fewer news stories about the eminent fall of Baghdad and more stories about these guys are dying in the desert, unburied, unidentified and in large numbers with the corpses eaten by dogs.

And simple attrition means every Eurojihadi that dies in Syria or Iraq doesn’t make the return trip.

Bomb them. Bomb them until we need to make more bombs, then bomb some more.

trubble on August 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Obama must be removed from office to eliminate this threat from within.

He has opened our borders. He has disregarded the rule of law. He has openly supported Iran and its Moslem Brotherhood’s Agenda. He is creating chaos in the suburbs and sending in Communists to protest in Ferguson.

I supported Bush, but after Katrina? That was my bottom line. You can only tow the party line for so long before you abandon it for the good of America.

He must be removed from office. He is guilty of dereliction of duty. Unless and until he shows some level of seriousness about the threats to our Nation and the World at the hands of ISIS, he is unfit to hold office.

Period.

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM

That link last night in the headlines – showing gear worn by the Brits over the centuries stopped at the Falklands War. I guess the next layout will be a picture of a black mask, a couple knives, a suicide vest, an AK47, some rope and a collection of goat pornography?

reaganaut on August 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM

‘It’s increasingly likely he is British’:

Cameron admits ISIS butcher who beheaded US journalist is probably from the UK as it is claimed jihadist is part of UK trio in Syria known as ‘the Beatles’

Published: 07:25 GMT, 20 August 2014 | Updated: 19:59 GMT, 20 August 2014
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729594/Islamic-State-terrorist-beheaded-US-journalist-James-Wright-Foley-WAS-British.html

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM

The Gates of Vienna have a lesson to teach, if we would but understand it.

Scribbler on August 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Obama understand what the Gates of Vienna mean and he is hastily working toward the defeat of Spain.

Even the Pope is calling for military action. Is this a first in the last few Centuries?

I think it is.

Remove Obama from Office. By any means necessary. He is unfit for duty, unfit to hold office, unfit to lead.

Obama is a disgrace to our Nation and to the World. He cannot recover his influence. He squandered it on some golf course somewhere in Obamaland.

Remove him.

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:43 PM

To clarify, that is to appease the Muslim population. Not a reflection on British armed forces.

reaganaut on August 20, 2014 at 7:43 PM

The Great Purge may cometh,

so,…..will it be Muslims who purgation the West
or Vicey-Versey!!

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Like Israel will never be at peace until their enemies are eradicated, I fear its true for the rest of us as well.

Islam and its adherents are simply incompatible with civilization. I guess I keep hoping that they’ll prove that idea wrong, but I haven’t seen evidence of it yet.

I hate that, but here we are.

Midas on August 20, 2014 at 7:45 PM

This is what happens when Islam starts to take over your country. When you allow sharia courts in your country. When you allow so many Muslims immigrants into your country. When you allow hateful imams to preach and ban Robert spencer, Pam Gellar and Geert Wilders from your country. You the U.K. Is screwed.

sadsushi on August 20, 2014 at 7:46 PM

London,…or,…ManHatten????????????????????????????????????????

Gaza, PS
13m
Photo: Gaza activists hang large pro-Palestinian flag from Manhattan Bridge in New York City – @jeffrae

https://twitter.com/jeffrae/status/502230124801323008/photo/1

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:46 PM

What this doesn’t tell us is exactly how many Muslims who are in the British forces are actually spying for Islamic Terror groups?

Annielou on August 20, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Imagine if this stat existed in America. The UK is lost.

UnstChem on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The accurate headline:

Report: Two times as many Muslims living in Britain fighting for ISIS as with U.K. armed forces.

BobMbx on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 18s

MORE: Special forces sent to Syria to rescue US hostages this summer but couldn’t locate them, officials say http://apne.ws/YBq48a

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/officials-us-rescue-mission-syria-failed

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

I hope everybody realizes that the ISIS thugs are calling the US airstrikes a crusade. So it makes no sense for us to call it anything else.

Pope Francis, it’s the Knights Templar on line 2.

platypus on August 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM

What this doesn’t tell us is exactly how many Muslims who are in the British forces are actually spying for Islamic Terror groups?

Annielou on August 20, 2014 at 7:46 PM

The Moslem Brotherhood is at the helm of America’s highest agencies.

Remove Obama first. Then… Just protect yourselves, I suppose. The Police and Firemen are Unionized.

Alynski 101. And our RINO’s let it happen. Screw ‘em.

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:50 PM

You invited them, Great Britain. And I mean all of you, from Labour to LibDems to Tories. You told every person of British heritage that they were all racists if they didn’t accept unlimited immigration.

And now you’re a terrorist state, feeding, clothing, and breeding these monsters and unleashing them on the rest of the world.

Rusty Nail on August 20, 2014 at 7:52 PM

SIS probably has enough Muslims to make up the difference. They have worked hard to penetrate the various radical groups in the UK and abroad.

lexhamfox on August 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 18s

MORE: Special forces sent to Syria to rescue US hostages this summer but couldn’t locate them, officials say http://apne.ws/YBq48a

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/officials-us-rescue-mission-syria-failed

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Obama’s Sacrifical Gift to his Moslem Brotherhood was Seal Team 6

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM

The accurate headline:

Report: Two times as many Muslims living in Britain fighting for ISIS as with U.K. armed forces.

BobMbx on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Well said.

They don’t consider themselves British.
VIDEO: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-28116575

bluegill on August 20, 2014 at 7:54 PM

While the threat of homegrown terror may be diminished for now as the most critical front appears to be in Syria and Iraq, Western governments are smart to prepare for the worst. If ISIS cannot be stopped in the Middle East, the worst is almost certainly on its way.

Why did (and still do) Britain let so many Muslims into their country in the first place? It seems stupid to me to “fight them over there” if you are then going to simply let them in over here.

I know this is so hard for people to accept, apparently even some conservatives, but this really is a clash of civilizations. If you accept that view, as I do, then the entire approach that the U.S. has had in relation to the Islamic world has been wrong for at least 25 years, if not more. Instead of trying to stamp out one Jihadist group at a time, we would instead be undermining the power of the Islamic religion everywhere on earth. This is a large strategical approach that gets to the heart of the problem.

The problem with U.S. strategy is we have never gone after the foundations of the Islamic religion. This is why I disagree with the Bush and Obama strategies, because no matter their differences they end up producing similar results which is no long term weakening of the prime cause of Jihad, which is Islam (or at least traditional Islam if you think the Islamic religion can be fundamentally changed to fit the modern world).

The real conflict is in the west, between westerners themselves. Is Islam the cause of Jihad, or is Islam fundamentally ok and it is those who misuse the faith for their own ends. I am in the “Islam is the cause” camp. Bush and Obama are in the “Islam is a religion of peace” camp. It appears most foreign policy people on both the left and right are still believers in the “Islam is a religion of peace” camp as well.

Otherwise I would not hear people like Oliver North, who is a good man and should know better, going on about Moderate Sunni Arabs in Iraq and Syria as our allies. To me it is a sad state of affairs when debating Iraq, and why I get so upset over it. The collapse of Iraq is the perfect proof for my side of the argument, and yet people still hang on to the opposing theory based not on fact but hope. Maybe it is the overwhelming nature of the problem, and it is too much to accept, or political correctness makes them scared to say what they really believe.

But “hope” is what gets good American troops killed for nothing significant…like nation building an Islamic democracy…

William Eaton on August 20, 2014 at 7:58 PM

#RescueMe

faraway on August 20, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I don’t care how many fooking generations they are.

If they want to join the caliphate, send the bastard to Syria and strip their citizenship, whether US, British, French or whatever.

txdoc on August 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM

The Associated Press @AP

MORE: Special forces sent to Syria to rescue US hostages this summer but couldn’t locate them,

The golf scorecard was hard to read

faraway on August 20, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Let’s look at the bright side, an intense bombing campaign can wipe out nutjobs from a variety of nations. It’s so nice of them to congregate in one area like that. Makes it much easier.

307wolverine on August 20, 2014 at 8:06 PM

I wonder what the Queen will look like in a burka…

Bruno Strozek on August 20, 2014 at 8:10 PM

The problem with U.S. strategy is we have never gone after the foundations of the Islamic religion. This is why I disagree with the Bush and Obama strategies, because no matter their differences they end up producing similar results which is no long term weakening of the prime cause of Jihad, which is Islam (or at least traditional Islam if you think the Islamic religion can be fundamentally changed to fit the modern world).

William Eaton on August 20, 2014 at 7:58 PM

I contend that this madness will continue until Mecca and Medina are reduced to smoldering ruins. Once they see that Allah’s apparently cool with that and Jesus/The Missing Imam aren’t going to descend from heaven, they’ll question things, but not until.

307wolverine on August 20, 2014 at 8:13 PM

That sound you hear is men from Clive to Wolseley to Churchill spinning.

formwiz on August 20, 2014 at 8:16 PM

This is what happens when Islam starts to take over your country. When you allow sharia courts in your country. When you allow so many Muslims immigrants into your country. When you allow hateful imams to preach and ban Robert spencer, Pam Gellar and Geert Wilders from your country. You the U.K. Is screwed.

sadsushi on August 20, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Exactly…in fact most people commenting here get it.

Yet the “professional” FP and intelligence folks don’t, and I know darn well the politicians don’t…but that is not much of a surprise.

I don’t think most hawks in congress (or parliaments in Europe) get the cause of Jihad anymore than the doves. Simply stating the obvious, that ISIS are barbarians who want to kill Americans and we must do something about it, is not a strategy to deal with Jihad overall. Once ISIS is dispatched some other Jihad group will appear in their place and if you are letting lots of Muslims into your country you will have bigger problems then what ISIS is doing in the wastelands of Syria and Iraq.

William Eaton on August 20, 2014 at 8:17 PM

I wonder what the Queen will look like in a burka…

Bruno Strozek on August 20, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Improved?

/s

platypus on August 20, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Ya lay down with dogs, you’re gonna get fleas.

GarandFan on August 20, 2014 at 8:23 PM

i’ve reached the conclusion that there is no difference between a “moderate” muslim and a “moderate liberal.

they watch the radicals behead their fellow countryman.

renalin on August 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM

MUST SEE VIDEO: Today’s politically correct UK – Any criticism of jihad and Islam is shouted down as “bigoted, racist”:
http://youtu.be/FtA21eiSmT8

bluegill on August 20, 2014 at 7:39 PM

WOW! That is a Must See Video! England is doomed if that audience is representative of the larger population.

Bravo to EDL Leader Tommy Robinson for working so hard to try to wake people up.

wren on August 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

“People like [ISIS] ultimately fail. Because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.”

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

and people like him are in charge. WTF, over.

arnold ziffel on August 20, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Obama’s Sacrifical Gift to his Moslem Brotherhood was Seal Team 6

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM

You’d better damn believe it. And anyone who doesn’t is burying their head in the sand.

Cleombrotus on August 20, 2014 at 9:01 PM

The Labour Party did it for the votes:

The truth at last! Peter Mandelson admits Labour ‘sent out search parties’ to bring migrants here after losing the votes of the working class

Barry is doing the same with immigrants from Central and South America, he is importing Democratic Party voters.

slickwillie2001 on August 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Obama’s Sacrifical Gift to his Moslem Brotherhood was Seal Team 6

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM

KWR: I agree,…Extortion 17—————–:(

With all the heat on Benghazi,THIS IS A MIND_BLOWER AND NEEDS COVERAGE ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TEAM SEAL 6,..U.S. Operation call sign Extortion 17!!

Families of slain SEAL Team 6 to blame government for deaths of servicemen
May 9, 2013
***********

Three families of Navy SEAL Team Six servicemen, along with the family of an Army National Guardsman, plan to appear at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, May 9, to “disclose never before revealed information about how and why their sons along with 26 others died in a fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan” on August 6, 2011, a few months after the raid on the compound that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden, The Blaze reported.

Thirty-eight people, including seven Afghans and an interpreter, died when the helicopter carrying 25 members of SEAL Team Six and five other Americans, crashed.

According to a press release put out by the families, retired military experts will also appear to explain “how and why the government is as much responsible for the deaths of their sons as is the Taliban.”

Karen Vaughn, mother of fallen Navy Seal of Aaron Carson Vaughn, reacted to Barack Obama’s campaign ad “One Chance” last year. Karen and Billy Vaughn lost their son Aaron, a Navy SEAL, in Afghanistan in 2011.

Out of touch — Rebuke of Clinton and Obama from the heart of a mother

The press release says that areas of inquiry include, but are not limited to:
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How President Obama and Vice President Biden, having disclosed on May 4, 2011, that Navy SEAL Team VI carried out the successful raid on Bin Laden’s compound resulting in the master terrorist’s death, put a retaliatory target on the backs of the fallen heroes.

*How and why high-level military officials sent these Navy SEAL Team VI heroes into battle without special operations aviation and proper air support.

*How and why middle-level military brass carries out too many ill-prepared missions to boost their standing with top-level military brass and the Commander-in-Chief in order that they can be promoted.

*How the military restricts special operations servicemen and others from engaging in timely return fire when fired upon by the Taliban and other terrorist groups and interests, thus jeopardizing the servicemen’s lives.

*How and why the denial of requested pre-assault fire may have contributed to the shoot down of the Navy SEAL Team VI helicopter and the death of these special operations servicemen.

*How Afghani forces accompanying the Navy SEAL Team VI servicemen on the helicopter were not properly vetted and how they possibly disclosed classified information to the Taliban about the mission, resulting in the shoot down of the helicopter.

*How military brass, while prohibiting any mention of a Judeo-Christian God, invited a Muslim cleric to the funeral for the fallen Navy SEAL Team VI heroes who disparaged in Arabic the memory of these servicemen by damning them as infidels to Allah. A video of the Muslim cleric’s “prayer” will be shown with a certified translation.

According to Jason Howerton, the press conference “has not been highly publicized.”

“This press conference takes on special significance given that our government has over the last twelve years since September 11th committed brave American servicemen to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that, in large part as a result of politics, were poorly conceived of and implemented, resulting in the deaths of thousands and the maiming of tens of thousands of our brave heroes. To make matters even worse, America has effectively lost these wars,” said Larry Klayman, legal counsel for the families.

The press conference also comes on the heels of a House hearing on the Benghazi terror attack that left Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

Video of one mother’s reaction to Obama’s campaign ad “One Chance” can be seen here.

http://www.examiner.com/article/families-of-slain-seal-team-6-to-blame-government-for-deaths-of-servicemen
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TrentoVision 5.9.13 – Navy SEAL Extortion 17 EXPOSED – Obama Failures
Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtJrJ40Cio&feature=youtu.be
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2011 Chinook shootdown in Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinook_shootdown_in_Afghanistan

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 2:48 AM

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Two times as many British Muslims fighting for ISIS as with U.K. armed forces

And the ones serving in the UK armed forces are undoubtedly spying for ISIS. UKastan.

MaiDee on August 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Key West Reader on August 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Remember that Pakistan went strangely silent after that ambush whereas previously they were outraged that their sovereignty was violated in the Osama raid.

Cleombrotus on August 20, 2014 at 9:08 PM

William Eaton on August 20, 2014 at 8:17 PM

while I agree that Islam is the root cause of most of the world’s problems today, I do think it would be effective in the near term for the West to take the terrorists head-on, militarily, followed up with a comprehensive public accounting of their abject military weakness and the societal evils they promote.

To defeat an enemy you have to get them to internalize the hopelessness of their position – we are not doing that.

Most people would support a “vigorous prosecution” of these international thugs even if it meant crossing a few borders (instead of prosecuting US police officers in the left’s continuing navel-gazing obsession with race).

virgo on August 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM

You invited them, Great Britain. And I mean all of you, from Labour to LibDems to Tories. You told every person of British heritage that they were all racists if they didn’t accept unlimited immigration.

And now you’re a terrorist state, feeding, clothing, and breeding these monsters and unleashing them on the rest of the world.

Rusty Nail on August 20, 2014 at 7:52 PM

I believe that this rule still stands. If one was born in a country previously possessed by Great Britain, they may obtain citizenship. IIRC it was a bigggish amount of real estate. Maybe RWM would know.

katy the mean old lady on August 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Bravo to EDL Leader Tommy Robinson for working so hard to try to wake people up.

wren on August 20, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Tommy has been making Islam an issue for a long time and brought a lot of attention to this after Lee Rigby was beheaded in London. Unfortunately, Tommy is a bit of a clown and can’t stay out of jail. He’d really be an asset for change if he’d finally grow up, lay off the sauce and work on being a professional.

reddevil on August 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Hey, nothing to worry about – obama has gifted the world with this little pearl of wisdom:

“People like [ISIS] ultimately fail. Because the future is won by those who build and not destroy.”

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Somewhere in the past I recall another pearl that goes something like “you didn’t build that”. Is 0bama telling us that we are not the ultimate winners?

freedomfirst on August 20, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Britain will become the new Lebanon, another formerly majority Christian country. Wait till the muslims hit 20%, then the real fun starts.

Pegcity on August 20, 2014 at 10:38 PM

I’m starting to think Obama knows what a JV team is.

dengony on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Where is our present day Charles Martel or Jan Sobieski?

celtic warrior on August 21, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Michael Savage is verboten but the British have no problem with child killers, beheaders and rapists. What a sh*thole that country has become.

potvin on August 21, 2014 at 11:43 AM

The Labour Party did it for the votes:

The truth at last! Peter Mandelson admits Labour ‘sent out search parties’ to bring migrants here after losing the votes of the working class

Barry is doing the same with immigrants from Central and South America, he is importing Democratic Party voters.

slickwillie2001 on August 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Correct. The American left, from Obama on down, aided by GOP leaders lusting after immigrant votes and cheap labor and an a public that is a poison mix of apathetic and stupid, have undertaken the same strategy that has destroyed Britain.

I say “destroyed” because for all intents and purposes the once great British culture is dead. Destroyed from the inside by the Left first putting in place PC controls and ‘multiculturalism’ then supercharging the ‘change’ by undemocratically enacted open borders immigration policies.

The prevailing culture in Britain today is that of multiculturalism, based not on any historic foundations, but as a fabricated foundation for whatever will eventually replace British society.

Regarding the left’s bizarre affinity and tolerance for Islamic behaviors, especially given Islam’s behaviors toward women, LGBTs, Jews, etc., while it is insane it is an explicit ‘enemy of my enemy’ strategy with the left’s leaders believing that once their common enemy is destroyed (Western civilization), they will dominate Islam.

They are wrong of course, but that is what they believe.

DrDeano on August 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Folks, not to nitpick, but:

ISIL = Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

OR

ISIS = Islamic State of Iraq and al SHAM (e.g., the Levant)

Means the same thing!

Miss_Anthrope on August 21, 2014 at 1:59 PM