Quotes of the day

posted at 10:21 pm on August 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Today, the entire world is appalled by the brutal murder of Jim Foley by the terrorist group, ISIL…

Jim Foley’s life stands in stark contrast to his killers. Let’s be clear about ISIL. They have rampaged across cities and villages — killing innocent, unarmed civilians in cowardly acts of violence. They abduct women and children, and subject them to torture and rape and slavery. They have murdered Muslims — both Sunni and Shia — by the thousands. They target Christians and religious minorities, driving them from their homes, murdering them when they can for no other reason than they practice a different religion. They declared their ambition to commit genocide against an ancient people…

The United States of America will continue to do what we must do to protect our people. We will be vigilant and we will be relentless. When people harm Americans, anywhere, we do what’s necessary to see that justice is done. And we act against ISIL, standing alongside others.

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Less than an hour after Mr. Obama spoke, the United States Central Command announced that American warplanes had conducted 14 airstrikes on ISIS targets in the hours after the video was released. The strikes all took place near the Mosul Dam, central command said in a news release.

“These strikes were under authority to support Iraqi security forces and Kurdish defense force operations, as well as to protect critical infrastructure, U.S. personnel and facilities, and support humanitarian efforts,” the release said.

The State Department also forwarded a request to the Pentagon — which the State Department is evaluating —to send around 300 more troops to Iraq for security, a United States official said.

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U.S. special operations forces early this summer launched a secret, major rescue operation in Syria to save James Foley and a number of Americans held by the extremist group ISIS, but the mission failed because the hostages weren’t there, senior administration officials told ABC News today.

President Obama authorized the “substantial and complex” rescue operation after the officials said a “broad collection of intelligence” led the U.S. to believe the hostages were being held in a specific location in the embattled Middle Eastern nation.

When “several dozen” U.S. special operation members landed in Syria, however, they were met with gunfire and “while on site, it became apparent the hostages were not there,” one of the officials said. The special operators engaged in a firefight in which ISIS suffered “a good number” casualties, the official said, while the American forces suffered only a single minor injury.

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Before Biden began speaking about training, he talked about the murder of James Foley, a journalist who had been captured by the militant Islamic group ISIS. He called James Foley Jim…

He said he and the President have spent a whole lot of time recently in the Situation Room. He said of ISIS: “They’re attempting to wipe out entire elements of the population in Iraq, including Muslims. I’m proud of the President stepping forward.” He talked about the crisis of the Yazidi refugees on Mt. Sinjar, and how ISIS was taking “young girls from that city and selling them, auctioning them off. This is just something out of the sixth century, the fifth century.”…

The AP reporter asked if Foley’s beheading changed the U.S. approach to ISIS. Biden said no, but it shines a spotlight on the horrors going on in that part of the world.

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And yet acting under existing authorities in Iraq, the administration’s response to the spread of the ISIS cancer has so far been reactive and piecemeal, constantly ceding the initiative to the ISIS extremists. When explaining U.S. airstrikes that enabled Iraqi and Kurdish forces to recapture the Mosul Dam in his press conference, for instance, Obama said he was acting to protect U.S. personnel in the Baghdad embassy hundreds of miles away. Really? Such tortured explanations of the logic behind the use of U.S. military force may comport with the commander in chief’s constitutional authority to protect American citizens. They sound an uncertain trumpet to allies in the region, however, who are desperate for U.S. leadership…

To have any hope of holding Iraq together, and making good on President Obama’s promise this week to “pursue a long-term strategy to turn the tide against [ISIS],” U.S. military support to the Iraqi Security Forces will have to be significant. Put simply, the administration needs to articulate a strategy for Iraq, and settle on a plan for executing it that is backed at home and understood in Iraq and the region…

A congressional authorization targeting ISIS, however limited in time or geography, would go a long way toward clarifying for the American people this growing threat to their security

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What do we do if we agree that this group must not exist in our general space-time continuum? Does this mean we have a foreign policy objective of exterminating ISIS? Breaking its will? Killing off just its leaders? Not really doing anything? Sort of bombing some strategic locations but trying not to get too involved? Mass conversion attempts away from ISIS ideology? What? What’s the specific thing we’re all agreeing to?

President Obama’s utopian fantasy of “the future” “always” being “won by those who build, not destroy” is just obviously and resoundingly false, for better or worse. I mean, define “future.” And define “winning” and “building vs. destroying.” Tamerlane had tremendous success destroying and slaughtering his enemies — for most of a century. And World War II didn’t end by building up Nagasaki. There are good winners and bad winners littered throughout history.

What’s more, this “wrong side of history” nonsense is nothing more than a religious belief in supernatural causality. It implies that history isn’t shaped by men but, instead, by outside inevitable forces that can always be counted on. If this were so, we wouldn’t need to work so hard to raise up good children and fight the evils all around us.

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What of ISIS’s weakness? That too was revealed by the video, which was a poor response to the military setbacks ISIS has suffered in the past week as Kurdish peshmerga militia have managed to retake Mosul Dam with the assistance of American firepower (and most likely U.S. Special Operations Forces, although their involvement has not been publicized). Recall the last time that al-Qaeda publicly murdered an American journalist. That would have been my former Wall Street Journal colleague Daniel Pearl, who was killed in early 2002 at a time when, thanks to the U.S. offensive in Afghanistan, al-Qaeda was on the run. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed killed Pearl for the same reason some ISIS fanatic killed Foley: to convey an impression of strength. But such desperate measures instead telegraph, well, desperation–and far from cowing anyone they are only likely to redouble the resolve of the civilized world to smash this group of genocidal jihadists.

What is needed now is not strongly worded condemnation of Foley’s murder, much less a hashtag campaign. What is needed is a politico-military strategy to annihilate ISIS rather than simply chip around the edges of its burgeoning empire. In the Spectator of London I recently outlined what such a strategy should look like. In brief, it will require a commitment of some 10,000 U.S. advisors and Special Operators, along with enhanced air power, to work with moderate elements in both Iraq and Syria–meaning not only the peshmerga but also the Sunni tribes, elements of the Iraqi Security Forces, and the Free Syrian Army–to stage a major offensive to rout ISIS out of its newly conquered strongholds. The fact that Nouri al-Maliki is leaving power in Baghdad clears away a major obstacle to such a campaign.

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The jihadi terrorists now control a large part of northern Iraq, close to the Iranian border, and have declared that territory to be a new state. If they succeed, on a permanent basis, that will result in the dismemberment of Iraq – with not only a caliphate but the Iraqi Kurds no longer ruled from Baghdad. What would be left of Iraq would be a rump Shia state deprived of many of its most valuable oil fields, and struggling to survive as a meaningful political entity…

Churchill was not naive. For the previous 20 years he had been the most vociferous opponent of the Soviet Union and all it stood for. He was well aware that when the alliance with Stalin led to the defeat of Hitler’s Germany the Soviet Union would emerge far more powerful than before and control much of eastern Europe.

But history has not found fault in the judgment that the price was worth paying if Britain was to be freed from Nazi invasion and western Europe from Hitler’s domination. The balance of advantage and disadvantage of working with the Iranians is not nearly as difficult as it was with the Russians. Iran, unlike the Soviet Union, will never be a superpower or a global threat…

On this occasion, my enemy’s enemy is not my friend. But to borrow Margaret Thatcher’s comment on Mikhail Gorbachev, we can, on the issue of jihadi terrorism, do business with them.

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Air strikes are undoubtedly necessary for the narrow purposes stipulated by Obama. But they will have a wide range of unintended consequences — some relatively manageable, others less so…

Third, air strikes will almost certainly unite Sunnis against other sects and boost support for ISIS while fueling disdain for the United States. The gist of the social media commentary on the strikes has been this: For years, the United States has tolerated — or perhaps even facilitated — a violent onslaught against Sunni Muslims. The very instant that other groups are threatened, the United States intervenes immediately against the Sunnis. And who benefits from this intervention? The Shia. It is a potent narrative, which the air strikes, however unavoidable, will appear to affirm. Indeed, impolitic language aside, it is hard to dispute the idea that the Shia, particularly Maliki, who has presided over a state that privileges that group while marginalizing Sunnis, will reap the gains of this campaign, at least in the short term…

Finally, in military terms, strikes will rapidly hit the point of diminishing returns for the United States. ISIS consists essentially of light infantry. When the fighters mass, or move via convoy, U.S. firepower can be effective at killing and dispersing them. But there are relatively few fighters to begin with — one of the astounding things about this war — and they don’t possess installations, depots, or other assets that the United States can menace. In this fight, airpower alone can be used effectively. But winning would require a combination of both ground troops and air superiority. And it won’t be the United States that supplies the ground troops. At the moment, though, the plight of Yezidis and Christians and the imminent exposure of Americans to jihadi raiders make that tomorrow’s concern.

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The Obama administration’s escalating air war against the Islamic State is running up against a dispiriting new reality: The militants are becoming as good at governing territory as they are at conquering it, making it considerably harder to dislodge them from the broad swaths of Syria and Iraq that they now control.

U.S. intelligence officials say the leaders of the Islamic State are adopting methods first pioneered by Hezbollah, the Lebanon-based Shiite militia, and are devoting considerable human and financial resources toward keeping essential services like electricity, water, and sewage functioning in their territory. In some areas, they even operate post offices…

At the same time, the Islamic State has generally allowed the local bureaucrats in charge of hospitals, law enforcement, trash pickup, and other municipal services to stay in their jobs, according to intelligence officials. In some areas, sitting mayors and other top local officeholders are keeping their posts.

Taken together, the moves highlight the fact that the Islamic State, already the best-armed and best-funded terror group in the world, is quickly adapting to the challenges of ruling and governing. That, in turn, dramatically reduces the chances that the extremists will face homegrown opposition in what amounts to the world’s newest territory.

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No one has offered a plausible strategy to defeat ISIL that does not include a major U.S. commitment on the ground and the renewal of functional governance on both sides of the Iraqi-Syrian border. And no one will, because none exists. But that has not prevented a slew of hacks and wonks from suggesting grandiose policy goals without paying serious attention to the costs of implementation and the fragility of the U.S. political consensus for achieving those goals. Although ISIL has some characteristics of a state now, it still has the resilience of an ideologically motivated terrorist organization that will survive and perhaps even thrive in the face of setbacks. We must never again make the mistake that we made in 2008, which was to assume that we have destroyed a jihadist organization because we have pushed it out of former safe-havens and inhibited its ability to hold territory. Bombing ISIL will not destroy it. Giving the Kurds sniper rifles or artillery will not destroy it. A new prime minister in Iraq will not destroy it…

This is where I am supposed to advocate a brilliant strategy to defeat ISIL by Christmas at some surprisingly reasonable cost. But it won’t happen. The cost to defeat ISIL would be very high and would require a multi-year commitment. I wish, very much, that the United States had taken ISIL and its predecessors more seriously after the Surge in 2007—but we did not, and that represents both a political and analytical failure. In a post-Benghazi world, looking toward the 2016 Presidential election, the political consensus to incur the risks and costs of destroying ISIL is tremendously unlikely. And even then, success hinges on dramatic political shifts in both Iraq and Syria that under the best of circumstances will require years. (Despite a new Iraqi Prime Minister, there is no short-term prospect for credible governance across either Iraq or Syria.)…

Advocating the defeat of ISIL over the short-term without acknowledging what will be necessary to achieve that end is a recipe for mission creep.
Mission creep is a recipe for policy failure because the American people will not allow sustained investment in a policy they did not commit to originally.

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Via the IJR.

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Via the Free Beacon.


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oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:48 AM

No donuts ooks like they have cheese cake and sandwiches. Shall I get you something?

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 1:51 AM

Did you say…. Cheesecake????

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Hmmmm, I just realized… I am currently drinking… Tea, coffee and beer… All at the same time… There is undoubtedly something seriously wrong with me.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:55 AM

What it is, what it is, y’all…

Christien on August 21, 2014 at 1:56 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:36 AM

So, basically, you’re looking at the rate that a minimum of 44 different axes reach infinity from one defined point in height/width/length/time, taking into account an X amount of overlap of at least four neighboring (for lack of better phrasing) dimensions at any given point?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 1:58 AM

Or, as Einstein would’ve called it, the Theory of Smoochability.
TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 1:49 AM

*smooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:00 AM

Just Remembered This Appropriate Lyric: Santa Monica…..

…..”Watch The World Die…..”

williamg on August 21, 2014 at 2:00 AM

There is undoubtedly something seriously wrong with me.
oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:55 AM

If nothing else, you’ll find out how well your kidneys are functioning… :P

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:01 AM

Did you say…. Cheesecake????

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Maybe after you finish your sandwich.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Like I said, I made a lot of really stupid decision when I was younger, not only would I give everything I have, hell, I would give my life to be where you are. Tragically, as I said I made a lot of really stupid decisions, I don’t have anything to give were children to show up of mine. I was stupid and lost everything.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:47 AM

As much as my daughters mean more to me than anything else, they wouldn’t mean much if I had allowed the dumb things I’ve done destroy who I am. I have many regrets, but if I didn’t have them, I wouldn’t have the understanding of certain aspects of life.

I’m usually the smartest person in any room I’m in, and I used to be quite conceited about it. A wise man told me years ago, “Knowledge is good, but understanding is better.” My mistakes have humbled me much as I have realized I’m just as human, fallible, and stupid as anyone else.

You may think you’ve lost everything, but don’t sell yourself short. I was asked to be a Cubmaster almost 2 years ago here locally. It’s incredible to have a bunch of boys think you are the coolest dude on the earth just because you hand them their awards every month.

Life is quite a wonder.

UnstChem on August 21, 2014 at 2:05 AM

Maybe after you finish your sandwich.
DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:02 AM

OH BOY!! Mystery Meat on White with Mustard and…and…RABBIT FOOD!

A good choice, Dark!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:06 AM

Life is quite a wonder.
UnstChem on August 21, 2014 at 2:05 AM

So is learning, sharing and mentoring, UC… :-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:07 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:36 AM

So, basically, you’re looking at the rate that a minimum of 44 different axes reach infinity from one defined point in height/width/length/time, taking into account an X amount of overlap of at least four neighboring (for lack of better phrasing) dimensions at any given point?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 1:58 AM

Ummm, yes, but also, the consequences of those overlaps. Imagine if you will, that you have a bowling ball, that it is rotating on the x axis, the y axis, the z axis, and the t axis all at the exact same time… but… as it rotates on the t axis, is drags the x, y and z axises along in it’s wake. This produces an incredibly complex matrix, the x^t axis, the y^t, the Z^t, the xy^t, the yx^t, the zx^t…. you see where I am going with this? It kind of resembles turbulence like you would see behind a boats propeller or an airplanes propeller, but it also leaves empty negative voids behind as well.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

OH BOY!! Mystery Meat on White with Mustard and…and…RABBIT FOOD!

A good choice, Dark!

It’s ham (I think, probably…) with egg, tomato and cucumber. Quite nutritious.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:10 AM

OH BOY!! Mystery Meat on White with Mustard and…and…RABBIT FOOD!

A good choice, Dark!

It’s ham (I think, probably…) with egg, tomato and cucumber. Quite nutritious.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:10 AM

Hmmm, is there a dark beer with it? I love Ham sammichs with dark beer…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:12 AM

i now follwing stltoday for all the latest in the trashy left wing press…and sure enough…they sorely disappointed to not be able to help the rioters focus in on where he is….he has gone missing, after a fashion

By the time police released his name on Friday, any social media accounts had been deactivated. Just one photograph of him emerged, apparently scraped from his father’s Facebook account by Yahoo! News before the account was deactivated.

A handful of supporters have spoken on his behalf; none from his inner circle. Union officials from Missouri Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 15 did not return calls and messages seeking comment last week. His attorney has declined to comment.

Some have said they saw Wilson shoot Brown after Brown raised his hands in surrender. No one has publicly corroborated what police said was Wilson’s version of the confrontation, in which Brown reached into the police car and attacked him. Perhaps the most widely shared telling of what is purported to be his perspective came from a woman who identified herself as a friend of Wilson and spoke on a radio show using a pseudonym.

Wilson hasn’t responded to calls or texts. Neither have his close friends or family members.

He’s taken a different path than central figures of almost every other major national crime story from the past decade. In those cases, clues could be found on Facebook, Twitter and other social media, or they were described by friends and loved ones.

Additionally, authorities have released essential details in other major crimes. That has not happened in Ferguson.

“I can’t remember any time in the last 10 years, at least, where somebody’s completely gone into hiding, for fear of his life,” said Jonathan Bernstein, president of Bernstein Crisis Management in Los Angeles. “Frankly, if I’d been advising his family, the first thing I would have said was, ‘Hide.’ In the near term, saving his life is more important than anything else.”

yeah, if there’s a mob after you, and a media mob looking for you, stay low.

i bet when he shows up for the grand jury, he’ll be flown in by helicopter to the courthouse if they have a helipad

r keller on August 21, 2014 at 2:17 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

My guess, Oscar, would be each one of those overlaps would create a new singularity, with a subsequent 44 axes (minimum) flowing forth from each one…like matter meets anti-matter, but possibly not as destructive, depending on the dimension(s) created. The quantity of space should remain constant, but when/where/how long the space is occupied (for lack of better phrasing) would be in constant flux because of the matter moving through each dimension. I would also assume that each dimension is going through a “life cycle” as it gets further from the original singularity–a beginning, middle and end, with the end being the closest point at any singularity, with times when all three points are occurring simultaneously.

What constants have you developed?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

It kind of resembles turbulence like you would see behind a boats propeller or an airplanes propeller, but it also leaves empty negative voids behind as well.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

I’m saving this and plagiarizing it for my memoirs, hope you don’t mind. A lot of propellers with empty negative voids left behind. Profound, really.

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 2:21 AM

It’s ham (I think, probably…) with egg, tomato and cucumber. Quite nutritious.
DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:10 AM

I thought I saw lettuce (could’ve been the cuke), possibly tomato, ham (maybe…pressed?) and a few other things I wasn’t sure about.

But I KNEW it was white bread! That’s universal, right?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:23 AM

Hmmm, is there a dark beer with it? I love Ham sammichs with dark beer…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:12 AM

No beer of any sort I’m afraid. Would you care to join me for an ‘American-style’ coffee instead?

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:24 AM

Would you care to join me for an ‘American-style’ coffee instead?
DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:24 AM

no cafe au lait? :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:25 AM

The Democrats know that the press is the only thing preventing an all out bloodbath at the polls in November. They know that the Democrats can not stand up to the same scrutiny given to Republicans by the press. The Democrats have got to do something big here in order to keep the press carrying water for them.

crosspatch on August 21, 2014 at 2:25 AM

But I KNEW it was white bread! That’s universal, right?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:23 AM

Yeah, you don’t find many other kinds of bread here except at Subway.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 2:27 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Now, if you take a bowling ball, and attach a cord to it, and then swing that bowling ball in a circle around yourself, and then drew a line that defined the circle, that line is what is known as a Ricci Tensor, It’s the point between the orbit of the bowling ball and the bowling balls inability to leave the orbit you have achieved.

Just outside of the Ricci Tensor is something known as a Reinhold Manifold, the Reinhold Manifold is the unexpressed disequilibrium between the Ricci Tensor and the orbit.

Now, think of that bowling ball I scribed earlier, with it’s multiple axises as the expanding universe. The turbulence described constitutes all of the matter in the universe, it’s on the inside of the Ricci Tensor. The Universe keeps expanding, and as it does so, it keeps creating turbulence, ie, matter, dark energy, dark matter, or a Higgs field.

No… there is no such thing as a Higgs field, it’s an artifact of the -1 P bran that existed before the universe existed. Is it the same as a Higgs field, both yes and no. It’s complex. Can you artificially create a Higgs Boson, absolutely, because a Higgs Boson is a extremely complex combination of multi-dimensional electro magnetic fields rotation in multiple dimensional vectors connectivity. The turbulence created by the various dimensions create the innumerable sub quantum particles, combine enough sub quantum particles and you eventually achieve a Higgs Boson.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM

yeah, if there’s a mob after you, and a media mob looking for you, stay low.
i bet when he shows up for the grand jury, he’ll be flown in by helicopter to the courthouse if they have a helipad
r keller on August 21, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Interesting how the two agreeing autopsies showing his wounds don’t mean squat, the narrative from the police doesn’t mean squat and, amazingly, how butthurt the paper is over the idea that someone(s) would keep information from THEM.

smh…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

My guess, Oscar, would be each one of those overlaps would create a new singularity, with a subsequent 44 axes (minimum) flowing forth from each one…like matter meets anti-matter, but possibly not as destructive, depending on the dimension(s) created. The quantity of space should remain constant, but when/where/how long the space is occupied (for lack of better phrasing) would be in constant flux because of the matter moving through each dimension. I would also assume that each dimension is going through a “life cycle” as it gets further from the original singularity–a beginning, middle and end, with the end being the closest point at any singularity, with times when all three points are occurring simultaneously.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

You would be 100 percent correct, which is why, at the quantum level, matter is constantly popping into and out of existence.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:34 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

By the way Newtie… you are fluking scary smart. You have no idea how many people (degreed physicists included) who I have discussed this with whose eye’s totally glazed over when we talked about this. You actually seem to grasp what I am saying. That’s kind of scary…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

John Steinbeck once wrote about a beginning, middle, and end, too. It was in a heated letter to his publisher who was ragging him about some trivial crap. What he said in the letter:

I choose to live my life in an even series, with a beginning, middle, and end. And not dribble it away, as so many men do, like piss in the dust.

Words to live by.

*Smoooooch back*

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM

*Smoooooch back*

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM

Haaaa… Smooching Newtie behind Spongepuppy’s back will get you into trouble every time… A Kerfuffle blimp will be dropping pomegranates on you before you know what happened…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:43 AM

My guess, Oscar, would be each one of those overlaps would create a new singularity, with a subsequent 44 axes (minimum) flowing forth from each one…like matter meets anti-matter, but possibly not as destructive, depending on the dimension(s) created. The quantity of space should remain constant, but when/where/how long the space is occupied (for lack of better phrasing) would be in constant flux because of the matter moving through each dimension. I would also assume that each dimension is going through a “life cycle” as it gets further from the original singularity–a beginning, middle and end, with the end being the closest point at any singularity, with times when all three points are occurring simultaneously.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Oh…and just a visual aid though… Beer foam/suds…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Ummm, yes, but also, the consequences of those overlaps. Imagine if you will, that you have a bowling ball, that it is rotating on the x axis, the y axis, the z axis, and the t axis all at the exact same time… but… as it rotates on the t axis, is drags the x, y and z axises along in it’s wake. This produces an incredibly complex matrix, the x^t axis, the y^t, the Z^t, the xy^t, the yx^t, the zx^t…. you see where I am going with this? It kind of resembles turbulence like you would see behind a boats propeller or an airplanes propeller, but it also leaves empty negative voids behind as well.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

My guess, Oscar, would be each one of those overlaps would create a new singularity, with a subsequent 44 axes (minimum) flowing forth from each one…like matter meets anti-matter, but possibly not as destructive, depending on the dimension(s) created. The quantity of space should remain constant, but when/where/how long the space is occupied (for lack of better phrasing) would be in constant flux because of the matter moving through each dimension. I would also assume that each dimension is going through a “life cycle” as it gets further from the original singularity–a beginning, middle and end, with the end being the closest point at any singularity, with times when all three points are occurring simultaneously.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:20 AM

I’m only guessing here and I should consult with Sponge Puppy, but I think your talking whirligig farts.

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:50 AM

I’m only guessing here and I should consult with Sponge Puppy, but I think your talking whirligig farts.

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:50 AM

Most likely… <— Insert confused but evil grin here…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:51 AM

TeeHee
Evening Miss Newtie, Oscar, and TXUS.
Quick ride by to say hi.

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:53 AM

I was wondering if anyone commented on the defiant and dignified look of Mr. Foley right before he was murdered.He seems to have been quite a brave man.

celtic warrior on August 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:43 AM

That’s why God created AR-15s.

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM

How familiar are you with hurricane anatomy?

Your Ricci Tensor sounds like a hurricane’s eye wall and the Reinhold Manifold is the area beyond the Ricci Tensor that is calm, serene; the area inside the Ricci Tensor is the hurricane–basically, an inside-out hurricane.

Have you considered an application of something along these lines?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Most likely… <— Insert confused but evil grin here…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:51 AM

You and Miss Newtie are brainiacs and I mean that in a loving way. (Insert hugs here)

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:58 AM

I’m only guessing here and I should consult with Sponge Puppy, but I think your talking whirligig farts.
31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:50 AM

That reminds me…I should change the PCV valve and the plug wires tomorrow…I’ll let the mechanic do the spark plugs… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:58 AM

You and Miss Newtie are brainiacs and I mean that in a loving way. (Insert hugs here)
31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 2:58 AM

I haven’t stretched like this since Oldest Dear Son asked where babies came from! o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:59 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:43 AM

That’s why God created AR-15s.

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Wink wink nod nod say no more…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 3:00 AM

By the way Newtie… you are fluking scary smart. You have no idea how many people (degreed physicists included) who I have discussed this with whose eye’s totally glazed over when we talked about this. You actually seem to grasp what I am saying. That’s kind of scary…
oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:37 AM

I forgot to light my “Mostly Harmless” sign again, didn’t I… o_O

Seriously?? I’m just working on visualizing what you’re saying…thank you for the analogies with the bowling ball ;-)

It’s easier to do when I can sit back and read what you’re saying and digest it more thoroughly–face-to-face might be a different experience, though…my eyes might not glaze over, but I would try to get out what I’m visualizing to you.

Artwork and, thus, diagrams, are not my strongsuit…I can barely draw above stick figures, and THOSE are a struggle… :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:06 AM

I haven’t stretched like this since Oldest Dear Son asked where babies came from! o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:59 AM

Would have liked to have been a fly on the wall for that one. ; )

Nite and blessings to all.

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 3:07 AM

Nite and blessings to all.
31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 3:07 AM

Baby pouches… ;-)

Niters and sleep well, Giddyup!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:08 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM

How familiar are you with hurricane anatomy?

Your Ricci Tensor sounds like a hurricane’s eye wall and the Reinhold Manifold is the area beyond the Ricci Tensor that is calm, serene; the area inside the Ricci Tensor is the hurricane–basically, an inside-out hurricane.

Have you considered an application of something along these lines?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM

At just the quickest glances I see what you are implying, though the equations you reference seem to have build in frictional coefficients that would not apply to what I am describing. Very similar, and possible relevant, were those frictional coefficients removed.

A -1 P Bran has no frictional coefficient as applied to the Reinhold Manifold/Ricci Tensor interaction. It’s only after the leading edge of the Ricci Tensor envelops an area that the -1 P Bran friction against other dimensional axises comes into existence.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 3:09 AM

I must go to bed now sweet Newtie, may the grace of God be with you and thank you for this dialog… (Yes I really am about to fall asleep)…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 3:13 AM

Nite and blessings to all.

31giddyup on August 21, 2014 at 3:07 AM

Sweet dreams, and I’m outta here, too.

Here’s to Us — Halestorm.

TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 3:14 AM

A -1 P Bran has no frictional coefficient as applied to the Reinhold Manifold/Ricci Tensor interaction. It’s only after the leading edge of the Ricci Tensor envelops an area that the -1 P Bran friction against other dimensional axises comes into existence.
oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 3:09 AM

So what happens after the Ricci Tensor moves into the Reinhold Manifold would be dependent on the qualities of the Reinhold Manifold, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:17 AM

I must go to bed now sweet Newtie, may the grace of God be with you and thank you for this dialog… (Yes I really am about to fall asleep)…
oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 3:13 AM

Sweet dreams, and I’m outta here, too.
Here’s to Us — Halestorm.
TXUS on August 21, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Niters and sleep well, you two!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:18 AM

…you see where I am going with this? It kind of resembles turbulence like you would see behind a boats propeller or an airplanes propeller, but it also leaves empty negative voids behind as well.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Cavitation. Therein resides your dark matter. As the cavitation cell implodes the compressed dark matter mimics a black hole. ;-)

Yoop on August 21, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Did anyone else notice that ISIS are not atheists? They very much believe in “God”!

Back to ignoring the elephant in the room…

Dan_Yul on August 21, 2014 at 3:20 AM

Pink Floyd – Time

[sends out a round of Whatchudrinkin's...usual caveats apply...enters under "Miscreants Anonymous Meeting Thursday Night"...]

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

[tosses bar keys to Dark...]

Dark, safe travels…

Those with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:21 AM

Dark, safe travels…

Those with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 21, 2014 at 3:21 AM

G’night ma’am.

My flight is delayed so I’m sitting at another Ishijah Coffee next to the gate cooling my heels and enjoying a glass of watermelon juice. Just in the airport I’ve counted 5 of these Ishijah’s, but only one Starbucks.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 4:23 AM

By the way Newtie… you are fluking scary smart. You have no idea how many people (degreed physicists included) who I have discussed this with whose eye’s totally glazed over when we talked about this. You actually seem to grasp what I am saying. That’s kind of scary…

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:37 AM

You’re both fluking scary smart.

crankyoldlady on August 21, 2014 at 4:53 AM

It looks like light rain going through.

crankyoldlady on August 21, 2014 at 5:04 AM

Go to Congress dear leader
this is too important

By trying to avoid mission creep hes actually doing it

And yet he wont come out and be a leader…does hexthink we are too stupid to comprehend the situation or hes too afraid to be a war leader

I’m glad they tried to get the hostages….id be more upset if they knew and did nothing about it

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:00 AM

williamg on August 21, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Awesome rundown on Daniel Pearl. Not what I was talking about.

hawkdriver on August 21, 2014 at 6:01 AM

Enjoy the rain col

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:01 AM

Pentagon upset about the leaked information so that dear leader can look good

And folks are upset he went golfing right after presser
- morning joe

Mika not happy about him doing this either

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:04 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 1:36 AM

Nothing cannot exist. Pure nothing has no predication. But if you say that nothing exists you are predicating existence to nothing (which is logically absurd).

If nothing cannot exist, something must exist. Existence, being, must exist.

there is a negative null space that exists between those dimensions as they expand.

? What do you mean by an expanding dimension?

there is a negative null space that exists between those dimensions as they expand.

The anti-nothing? The something that must exist?

That negative null space, is what is commonly described as, a) Dark Energy, b) Dark Matter, or c) the Higgs Field.

e) God. ?

God is a singularity. But to say the universe split from His being is to espouse pantheism.

The Bible says God created by His Word. His logos; His λόγος. His reason; His logic.

What, beside being descriptive concepts to explain existence, are dimensions?

- – -

I thought there are only ten dimensions.

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM

Hes spock……if you cant go golfing the terrorists have won….maybe this will work for obama
-joe

Boy hes trying to get on Valeries good side

No….this looked really bad joe

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:09 AM

I pray that you, being rooted and firmly established in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the length and width, height and depth of God’s love, and to know the Messiah’s love that surpasses knowledge, so you may be filled with all the fullness of God. Ephesians 3

Four dimensions.

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:21 AM

Via newsbusters
tingles not happy with obamas presser…..he wants obama to attack and attack hard

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:23 AM

but it also leaves empty negative voids behind as well.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

What happens when those voids collapse?

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:23 AM

This reporter had already been held as a hostage over there one time, and then he goes back again. Sure did tempt fate. But at least his death will serve some purpose.

cimbri on August 21, 2014 at 6:25 AM

at the quantum level, matter is constantly popping into and out of existence.

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014 at 2:34 AM

Rather than popping into and out existence, maybe moving from our physical realm into a spiritual realm.

But that brings in a bunch more questions; the main one being, What is the difference between physical and metaphysical? Indeed, is there a metaphysical realm? Is the metaphysical physical? Is it just a matter of dimensions?

Is the discussion you are having with yourself trying to explain metaphysics with a physical worldview (if indeed a metaphysical realm exists [which I believe does])?

You all are discussing 44 axes (dimensions?) and I’m struggling with two time dimensions.

FTR I have relatively (heh) no knowledge of math and physics.

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM

An all-star team of eighteen conservative writers offers a hilarious, insightful, sanctimony-free remix of William Bennett’s The Book of Virtues—without parental controls. The Seven Deadly Virtues sits down next to readers at the bar, buys them a drink, and an hour or three later, ushers them into the revival tent without them even realizing it.

The book’s contributors include Sonny Bunch, Christopher Buckley, David “Iowahawk” Burge, Christopher Caldwell, Andrew Ferguson, Jonah Goldberg, Michael Graham, Mollie Hemingway, Rita Koganzon, Matt Labash, James Lileks, Rob Long, Larry Miller, P. J. O’Rourke, Joe Queenan, Helen Rittelmeyer, and Christine Rosen. Jonathan V. Last, senior writer at the Weekly Standard, editor of the collection, is also a contributor. All eighteen essays in this book are appearing for the first time anywhere.

Here are the virtues everyone (including the book’s contributors) was taught in Sunday school but have totally forgotten about until this very moment. In this sanctimony-free zone:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Seven-Deadly-Virtues-Conservative/dp/1599474603/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1408461805&sr=8-8&keywords=the+seven+deadly+virtues

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:50 AM

Good Morning, y’all!

Rushing to “judgement”.

My take: AG Holder Goes to Ferguson to Get…err…Seek An Indictment…As the Real Truth Starts to Come Out

kingsjester on August 21, 2014 at 6:59 AM

U.S. special operations forces early this summer launched a secret, major rescue operation in Syria to save James Foley and a number of Americans held by the extremist group ISIS, but the mission failed because the hostages weren’t there, senior administration officials told ABC News today.

Which we suddenly hear about only because the filthy rat-eared bastard needs some political cover over how a “JV” team could behead an American journalist.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:01 AM

My take: AG Holder Goes to Ferguson to Get…err…Seek An Indictment…As the Real Truth Starts to Come Out

kingsjester on August 21, 2014 at 6:59 AM

There wasn’t a white face to be found in those photo-ops Holder had with various groups in Ferguson. And in the meantime, the Brown family continues to propagandize the death of their worthless street thug son with Ma Brown only seeing the “bullet-riddled” body of Big Mike a few minutes before meeting with holder (it put me in mind of the way Emmett Till’s mother used his corpse as a statement). Sharpton is going to speak at the funeral.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:04 AM

tingles not happy with obamas presser…..he wants obama to attack and attack hard

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:23 AM

Wouldn’t that require more than a pro-forma statement before rushing off to play golf? Teddy Roosevelt famously talked about “speaking softly and carrying a big stick.” Well the lazy stupid rat-eared blowhard only speaks about himself and he has a minion to carry a whole bag of wood and iron sticks. This is not leadership.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:08 AM

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:01 AM

thus the anger from pentagon about the leakage….

that jv comment will never go away….

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 7:09 AM

What do we do if we agree that this group must not exist in our general space-time continuum? Does this mean we have a foreign policy objective of exterminating ISIS? Breaking its will? Killing off just its leaders? Not really doing anything? Sort of bombing some strategic locations but trying not to get too involved? Mass conversion attempts away from ISIS ideology? What? What’s the specific thing we’re all agreeing to?…

Declare them to be using Private War against the civilized war conventions and that they are pirates, waging war wantonly without Nation State approval and that they are an enemy to all Nations.

Deploy the Piracy Codes against them and their supporters. When captured in a civil context it is 25 years in jail. Those aiding, abetting and supporting them get 10 years in jail. When you encounter them on the battlefield a courts martial using the Spies and Saboteurs section of the Geneva Conventions can be utilized, although utilization of General Orders 100 section that Pres. Lincoln used in the Lieber Code would also available as that was something Congress has previously approved and was used for decades after the Civil War.

Treat them as bandits.

Treat them as highway robbers.

Treat them as the savages they have decided to become by walking away from civilization and telling us that they are the law unto themselves under the Law of Nature.

This means we let our brother Nations know, even those we don’t like very much, just what a threat to all Nations these people are and that we will treat them as that threat. Military force when it can be deployed will be deployed and no Nation willingly harboring them is safe from attack because they are using piracy as part of the foreign policy and wish to be excused by it whilst sheltering such savages.

They seek the law of the powerful ruling over the weak. They should get as they ask for and find enemies at every turn who know that in supplying them that they will be marked for prison sentences. Deal with their suppliers, those who aid and abet them and soon you will find that these savages can’t get supplies. Send out bounty posters with names and faces, along with rewards and ‘WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE’ clearly labeled on it. Have Congress set up minimal requirements for private organizations to start chasing down the goods being delivered to such savages so that those goods can be sold at auction to the benefit of the private organization. These are NOT mercenaries as they do not get paid by our government, but global repomen allowed to keep what they can demonstrate is going to the savages.

The 18th and 19th century knew how to deal with these people. They were more civilized than we are because they called these people what they were, enacted laws to stop them, and then worked to bring them to heel and begin putting them down one by one, savage by savage, just as the savages wished upon others. It is the only kind of response they can understand and respect, and we should dust off the laws STILL IN PLACE AND USE THEM FOR OUR SAFETY.

ajacksonian on August 21, 2014 at 7:19 AM

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:04 AM

smh

there is no way that the federal investigation will be fair and impartial, not with the display of nixon and holder

shameful

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2014 at 7:08 AM

indeed not….and ISIL and the rest of the world knows it…

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 7:23 AM

tingles not happy with obamas presser…..he wants obama to attack and attack hard

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 6:23 AM

I wonder if he would think the same way if the president were Republican.

crankyoldlady on August 21, 2014 at 7:25 AM

Holder is there to make sure that Officer Vinson in indicted in the “wrongful death” of “Gentle Giant” Michael Brown.

SPOT BLOODY ON KJ

great take KJ…

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 7:26 AM

crankyoldlady on August 21, 2014 at 7:25 AM

good question…

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 7:27 AM

It looks like light rain going through.

crankyoldlady on August 21, 2014 at 5:04 AM

Morning COL got 3″ of rain yesterday in about an hour and no water in the basement. I had a small leak and made some changes in landscaping, downspouts, and replaced a french drain and problem fixed for another 5 or so years.

High today of 96F, normal humidity, and chance of T-Storms. Two dim blubs today stopped in the next to right lane (I was on a 6 lane highway) because they missed their exit and could not get ofter in time. So what did they both do. Stop in the interstate while folks are running around 80mph. I ended up swerving around a couple of cars and was forced to exit the highway or hit the dope stopped. What really bothers me is that my son, who is not 20 yet, drives the same road at the same time in the dark.

Today is National Senior Day, National Spumoni Day, and Poet’s day.

Wish you well and happy thoughts to all the rest.

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM

wow, some not too bright folks driving on the roads…stay safe….

spumoni….haven’t seen that in a long time…

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM

Wish you well and happy thoughts to all the rest.

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM

Where is “COL” and was the car in mention a “COL” car?

Walter L. Newton on August 21, 2014 at 7:46 AM

Walter L. Newton on August 21, 2014 at 7:46 AM

COL refers to CrankyOldLady to whom he directed his comment.

esr1951 on August 21, 2014 at 7:52 AM

COL refers to CrankyOldLady to whom he directed his comment.

esr1951 on August 21, 2014 at 7:52 AM

Got it.

Walter L. Newton on August 21, 2014 at 7:56 AM

President Obama’s utopian fantasy of “the future” “always” being “won by those who build, not destroy” is just obviously and resoundingly false, for better or worse. I mean, define “future.” And define “winning” and “building vs. destroying.” Tamerlane had tremendous success destroying and slaughtering his enemies — for most of a century. And World War II didn’t end by building up Nagasaki. There are good winners and bad winners littered throughout history.

I read yesterday that those with drug dependency are emotionally and socially stunted at the moment the serious drug use begins. King Putz describes and entire year of his youth devoted to being stoned out of his skull on cocaine and pot. Compounding his obvious immaturity (see selfie photos at Mandella’s service and yesterday’s fist bump photos for reference) is his probably mental illness.

He’s not just a narcissist. He’s either a sociopath or a psychopath.

dogsoldier on August 21, 2014 at 8:24 AM

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM

People seem to be driving more aggressively lately and less carefully as well.

Glad your safe.

dogsoldier on August 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Yepper dogsoldier

Our lsm……meh

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 8:44 AM

oscarwilde on August 21, 2014

(Sigh) I really do you love, OW, but you have to be one of the most infuriating men I’ve ever had the pleasure to meet. I hope you will listen to the words of others here who would not have you sell yourself short. You have a great deal to offer. Probably more than you’re willing to consider.

You aren’t dead yet, my friend. For those who are forgiven of much, much is expected. Which means God isn’t even close to being done with you yet!!! Lots of challenges He has in store for you, if you’re willing to take them on. And lots of blessings to be reaped from it if you do!!

Looks like I’ll be at QOTD on Friday night, late, after 11 ET. If you have a few minutes, I’d love to hear more about how school is going for you.

Give yourself this chance to build a new life, OW!!

(BTW, you’re right about Newtie! Glad to see the even exchange of intelligence going on there. Good for both of you!)

lineholder on August 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM

(Sigh) I really do you love, OW, but you have to be one of the most infuriating men I’ve ever had the pleasure to meet.
lineholder on August 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Bah, doods a piker as I gots ’nuff ex-wives to fill out a jury box.

Chuckle.

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM

HonestLib on August 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM

ROFL. Heaven help you if you get in trouble with the law, HL! ;-)

lineholder on August 21, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Four dimensions.

davidk on August 21, 2014 at 6:21 AM

Height and depth are the same dimension.

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2014 at 10:26 AM

cmsinaz on August 21, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Yeah and it’s amazing considering when he golfs our reporters get locked up in either the tool shed or the club – usually. I will bet whoever snapped that fistbump yesterday is deep in the IRScrement today…

dogsoldier on August 21, 2014 at 11:23 AM

Enjoy:

Two U.S Apache Helicopters engage over 20 Taliban terrorist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK-Iy9290ZI

canopfor on August 20, 2014 at 10:31 PM

What an AMAZING video…as compelling as watching the night vision of the terrorist camp in the movie, “Clear and Present Danger”!!!!
..
I watched the whole thing right to the end, while these brave young soldiers clean up all the stray jihadis one-by-one.
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Especially great when the jihadis are lit up from the ammo they are carrying.
..
Wish they’d turn that place into glass.
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Thanks.

Typicalwhitewoman on August 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM

The enemies are in DC

Schadenfreude on August 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM

ISIS consists essentially of light infantry. When the fighters mass, or move via convoy, U.S. firepower can be effective at killing and dispersing them. But there are relatively few fighters to begin with — one of the astounding things about this war — and they don’t possess installations, depots, or other assets that the United States can menace.

Not to get back on topic, but:

They do possess fixed installations, depots, or other assets that the US can menace. Specifically, the sources of fuel, for all those little pick-up trucks and the gas-hog military vehicles.

Refineries and tank farms are similar:
Both highly visible
Both highly fragile
Both highly flammable.

BOOM

All traffic stops, where it ran out of fuel. No convoys, no heavy artillery, no mass movements of “fighters”. Once they’re stationary, we can more easily take them out; or take out the town sheltering them, with a daisy cutter or nuke, as seems most effective.

ReggieA on August 21, 2014 at 4:38 PM

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