Police sources to NYT: Witnesses, forensics prove Wilson sustained an injury during his confrontation with Michael Brown

posted at 11:21 am on August 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

Kind of an important detail, yet buried 21 paragraphs deep. They’re not as specific as Jim Hoft was yesterday in alleging that Wilson’s eye was busted — the type of injury is unspecified here — but this is the first evidence I know of reported in a major paper that Brown might have been physically aggressive towards Wilson.

Er, why didn’t the Times think to ask its sources, “What kind of injury?” Or did they and received a “no comment” in reply? Police might want to keep that detail a secret to see if witnesses will independently corroborate it. I.e. if it’s his eye and a witness claims he saw Brown punch Wilson in the face, they know that witness is likely credible.

However, law enforcement officials say witnesses and forensic analysis have shown that Officer Wilson did sustain an injury during the struggle in the car…

“It was something strange,” said [eyewitness Michael] Brady, 32, a janitor. “Something was not right. It was some kind of altercation. I can’t say whether he was punching the officer or whatever. But something was going on in that window, and it didn’t look right.”…

According to his account to the Ferguson police, Officer Wilson said that Mr. Brown had lowered his arms and moved toward him, law enforcement officials said. Fearing that the teenager was going to attack him, the officer decided to use deadly force. Some witnesses have backed up that account. Others, however — including [Brown's friend Dorian] Johnson — have said that Mr. Brown did not move toward the officer before the final shots were fired…

The F.B.I., Mr. Bosley said, pressed Mr. Johnson to say how high Mr. Brown’s hands were. Mr. Johnson said that his hands were not that high, and that one was lower than the other, because he appeared to be “favoring it,” the lawyer said.

Brady says he’s been interviewed by local police but not by the FBI yet. Huh. The Times also stresses that several witnesses say that when Brown stopped running from Wilson and turned back to face him, he did put his hands up. Whether he then lowered them and advanced on Wilson, as Wilson claims, or stayed put in surrender mode is in dispute.

Another interesting tidbit from the Times: Supposedly “many” witnesses have told cops that Wilson’s gun went off while he was still in the car arguing with Brown, which apparently caused Brown to start running. Why the gun went off will be a hot topic at trial, needless to say. It’s possible, I guess, that Wilson fired it deliberately, to intimidate Brown, but … why on earth would he do that? There are lots of ways a cop can intimidate you without blowing a hole in his own squad car or risking a ricochet. It’s more likely that the gun went off accidentally. How come? Did Brown grab for it when Wilson had it holstered? Or did Wilson have the gun out to intimidate Brown when it went off, either through Wilson’s own carelessness or because Brown grabbed at it himself? The defense is going to argue that Wilson’s fear of death or severe bodily harm was reasonable; it’s hard to make that argument based on Brown’s size alone given that Wilson was armed and Brown wasn’t, but if they can show that Brown had already tried to take a deadly weapon from Wilson and obviously had the strength to succeed on a second attempt, the argument is easier. And if they can show on top of that that Brown had already evinced an intent to harm Wilson by injuring him somehow, it’s easier still. Kind of a big deal here. Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?


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A local radio station here is saying that a national media source of theirs is saying Dorian Johnson finally admitted that Brown did in fact attack the officer and that no charges will be filed.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

Come on…you know why. We all know why. It would ruin the story.

Sue Doenim on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

Why has it taken you 11 days to admit that Brown might not be an innocent angel brutally gunned down by the police, but a violently intoxicated 300 pounder who had already fractured to police officer’s skull before the officer fired at him?

Oh, wait, you still haven’t acknowledged that.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Hands out, let’s loot!

GreenEnergy on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Because it kills the narrative?

A few more admissions like this from the Gray Lady and Eric Holder’s civil rights charges against Wilson go up in Choom.

formwiz on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Because the NYT is run by liberals, and liberals lie. Come on, don’t you get that by now. If it doesn’t fit their narrative, they will lie or hide the info. They don’t care about facts and truth.

Ta111 on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Er, why didn’t the Times think to ask its sources, “What kind of injury?”

Your perpetual naivete isn’t cute anymore.

NotCoach on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

1) 6 shots – 5 didn’t stop the “gentle giant”. It took 6. When the “gentle giant” was stopped, the officer stopped shooting.
2) Left Orbital Blowout – My understanding is the left side (driver window side) of the officers face was crushed with a single blow. This is usually done with a right punch. The “Gentle Giant” was shot at least 4 times in his right arm. One would conclude that he was throwing punches with the right arm BEFORE it was shot 4 times.
3) Prosecute before investigation – Gov. Nixon wants a vigorous prosecution before we know the facts and before the grand jury looks at it. Who else should we hold to this standard? Lerner? Tavenar? Holder? Hillary?

barnone on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

This can’t be true….why just last night, nonpartisan was telling us that Officer Wilson did this to himself.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Gov Nixon has ordered public gallows be built on the courthouse square…sign will say Justice Will Be Done…..

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

You are the master of rhetorical questions, AP.

conservative pilgrim on August 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Bc he is choosing not to advocate a scenario until the proven facts are completely understood. I don’t see what is wrong with that.

blatantblue on August 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Is Ed still calling Brown a “teenager?”

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Wilson has seen and assessed 100,000 black males during his police career, in every possible situation and time of day……..and now blacks want us to believe that this police officer just started shooting at this hundred thousand and one guy for no reason…on a whim…because he was bored………I don’t think so…

clandestine on August 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

This article could besmirch Michael Brown’s character…..

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Noah wants to talk about reporters & McDonalds. It isn’t just NYT’s that buries important details many paragraphs in.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

According to Gov Nixon, Michael Brown was shot in “broad daylight”….

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

Because the media is sticking to their “racist white cops execute innocent black teens” narrative, and they’ll be damned if nuisances like facts get in the way of their agenda.

Aizen on August 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

FACTS we don’t need no stinkin FACTS … the mob must be fed …

conservative tarheel on August 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Others, however — including [Brown's friend Dorian] Johnson — have said that Mr. Brown did not move toward the officer before the final shots were fired…

Yeah, Mr Johnson has been such a reliable witness so far. Maybe somewhere in the multiple accounts he’s given you might find the truth.

HumpBot Salvation on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

because they are paid by the word? because they don’t have that much to say and needed to keep you interested? to bury a fact so deep that only a lexis-nexis search could find it?

because that’s our media

DanMan on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

And reporters have been mistreated….

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

One of the bullets went through Brown’s arm and into his chest. That doesn’t sound like he had his arms up. And if the officer was blinded in one eye, especially if it was his dominant eye, that explains pretty well why he was hitting arm, and not torso.

RBMN on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Why the gun went off will be a hot topic at trial, needless to say.

Ugh. Enough already with this nonsense. A trial may or may not happen, but first anything and everything is a topic for an investigation! In a sane world an investigation determines whether or not enough evidence exists to proceed to trial. Stop jumping from A to Z.

NotCoach on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Irrelevant!! The evil, racist officer is GUILTY! His guilt was assured when he killed that harmless, saintly boy whose only desire was to go to college and become a community organizer. Hand him over to the mob for JUSTICE!!

/s

Meople on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

And yet, in one of the most reckless, and outright DANGEROUS
statements ever uttered by a politician, the Governor proclaimed
a Vigorous prosecution of the officer.

Has ANYONE called out this POS for his statement????????????

ToddPA on August 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

My first post after this happened was that cops don’t shoot people for the hell of it. I was ripped here but it looks like I’m vindicated and so will the cop.

jmtham156 on August 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

I’m sorry, but I just don’t believe anything the cops are saying without seeing evidence backing it up. We hear these reports of an injury from secondhand sources but the police have yet to confirm, no medial records released…

It’s not that I want to be quick to judge, but let’s all remember these are unionized government employees who famously go to great lengths to protect each other from recrimination. That’s what cops are. I want to believe the shooting was justified but they have screwed up SO MUCH in the interim that I’m having a hard time buying anything on their word alone.

Caiwyn on August 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Well this comprismises their narrative….

sorrowen on August 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

NYT is vigorously pursuing a vigorous prosecution/persecution…?

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Enough with the wild speculation, already. ffs.

Midas on August 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Bc he is choosing not to advocate a scenario until the proven facts are completely understood. I don’t see what is wrong with that.

blatantblue on August 20, 2014 at 11:27 AMBc he is choosing not to advocate a scenario until the proven facts are completely understood. I don’t see what is wrong with that.

blatantblue on August 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Actually, yesterday Allah race panderer was demanding the Wilson be charged with murder, despite growing evidence that Johnson made up the whole hands up meme, that Brown was high, that Brown had just violently robbed a store, that Wilson fired at Johnson from the front, and that Wilson sustained an orbital fracture-CT’s available on Drudge yesterday.

Allah race panderer was aggressively promoting a scenario which convicted Wilson, despite any factual evidence against Wilson, and a rapidly growing body of evidence in favor of Wilson.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

And yet, in one of the most reckless, and outright DANGEROUS
statements ever uttered by a politician, the Governor proclaimed
a Vigorous prosecution of the officer.

Has ANYONE called out this POS for his statement????????????

ToddPA on August 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

I posted in QOTD last night he should be impeached, disbarred and removed from office.

Meople on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Why the gun went off will be a hot topic at trial

Sorry to dissapoint you but there should be no trial if this was a good shoot. All early indications point to a legitimate use of deadly force against a violent agressor.

ObamatheMessiah on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

My first post after this happened was that cops don’t shoot people for the hell of it. I was ripped here but it looks like I’m vindicated and so will the cop.

jmtham156 on August 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Not if Governor Nixon has his way. He wants to skip the investigation.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

It can all go wrong in a second.

HotAirian on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Why isn’t Officer Wilson tweeting his story of what happened? Why isn’t he instagraming the truth? Why is Officer Wilson not using Vine to defend himself?

portlandon on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Irrelevant!! The evil, racist officer is GUILTY! His guilt was assured when he killed that harmless, saintly boy whose only desire was to go to college and become a community organizer. Hand him over to the mob for JUSTICE!!

/s

Meople on August 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Lynch him already! I’ll get the noose!

/s

Aizen on August 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Kind of an important detail, yet buried 21 paragraphs deep. They’re not as specific as Jim Hoft was yesterday in alleging that Wilson’s eye was busted — the type of injury is unspecified here — but this is the first evidence I know of reported in a major paper that Brown might have been physically aggressive towards Wilson.

You have got to be joking right? They announced right away Wilson was injured and being treated for it. They simply gave no specifics. Do you think Wilson was being treated for an injury he received while Brown was being physically passive?

Rocks on August 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

a Vigorous prosecution of the officer.

Has ANYONE called out this POS for his statement????????????

ToddPA on August 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

The Lt. Governor, who interestingly is a Republican. There is at least one story about his counterstatement on Fox.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

I’m sorry, but I just don’t believe anything the cops are saying without seeing evidence backing it up. We hear these reports of an injury from secondhand sources but the police have yet to confirm, no medial records released…

It’s not that I want to be quick to judge, but let’s all remember these are unionized government employees who famously go to great lengths to protect each other from recrimination. That’s what cops are. I want to believe the shooting was justified but they have screwed up SO MUCH in the interim that I’m having a hard time buying anything on their word alone.

Caiwyn on August 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Translation: “Whatever the police say I will NEVER believe a word of it.”

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Lynch him already! I’ll get the noose!

/s

Aizen on August 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Governor Nixon already has the noose strung up and ready.

no /s needed here. That’s the truth.

Meople on August 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Not if Governor Nixon and Allah race panderer have their way. They wants to skip the investigation.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

and just go straight to Wilson’s execution.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Enough with the wild speculation, already. ffs.

Midas on August 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM

My sentiments as well. And he isn’t very good at wild speculating, either.

NotCoach on August 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Is Ed still calling Brown a “teenager?”

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Why shouldn’t he? Micheal Brown was a teenager, you know, eighteen years old. Yes, eighteen is still a teenager.

oscarwilde on August 20, 2014 at 11:38 AM

We must wait until Twitter has had time to vet this “new” information….

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Why has it taken you 11 days to admit that Brown might not be an innocent angel brutally gunned down by the police, but a violently intoxicated 300 pounder who had already fractured to police officer’s skull before the officer fired at him?

Oh, wait, you still haven’t acknowledged that.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Because unlike you, he doesn’t have all the inside information that you have.

Walter L. Newton on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Governor Nixon already has the noose strung up and ready.

no /s needed here. That’s the truth.

Meople on August 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Sadly.

Nixon’s a Democrat, thus he will use this opportunity to launch his next political campaign.

Aizen on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

12,000,000 arrests in 2012.
~425 Police Officer involved shootings while on duty.
32% the shootings involved a black person.
That is .0011% of the time.
Not a real common occurrence.
And that is the total, not just improper.

barnone on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

but this is the first evidence I know of reported in a major paper that Brown might have been physically aggressive towards Wilson.

I’m calling you out on this AllahPundit. It was reported at the time that Officer Wilson was treated for head injuries. Vague, but we were arguing that Brown was shot after felonious assault on a cop. And we were arguing it here on Hot Air.

rbj on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

You have got to be joking right? They announced right away Wilson was injured and being treated for it. They simply gave no specifics. Do you think Wilson was being treated for an injury he received while Brown was being physically passive?

Rocks on August 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Allah race panderer’s coverage of this entire story, from the beginning, has revealed him to be without a shred of intellectual, journalistic or moral integrity, just a vapid, shallow propagator of false racial memes.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Speculation…Fact

It seems they are the same…

right2bright on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

The defense is going to argue that Wilson’s fear of death or severe bodily harm was reasonable; it’s hard to make that argument based on Brown’s size alone given that Wilson was armed and Brown wasn’t

Oh, please AP, did you think this sentence through? Your logic is so circular its dizzying.

Cop should not be afraid for his life during attack of giant hopped-up aggressive thug because cop is armed, so that makes shooting the firearm unreasonable?

You are arguing that the gun on his hip all by itself and unfired makes an individual safe from death?

In the real world, only by SHOOTING the firearm at the assailant is the officer saved from injury or death, postulating an aggressive attacker.

Only by arguing that Wilson should not have feared Monster Mikey even if Wilson were unarmed, can you say the fear for his life and safety were unreasonable.

You could, for example argue this if Wilson were confronting someone in a wheelchair or a 13-year-old female, but, seriously…

Turn in your internet badge for today. You can pick it up in the morning.

Dolce Far Niente on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

It’s possible, I guess, that Wilson fired it deliberately, to intimidate Brown

If cop training is anything like civilian training with respect to handguns, this would never happen. I was told never fire a ‘warning shot’. You shoot to stop the threat which generally means aim for center of mass and fire until the person stops. Warning shots are the kind of thing that get you convicted because they indicate you fired without fear for your life or great bodily injury. I’m guessing cops would be taught the same.

Goldenavatar on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Why has it taken you 11 days to admit that Brown might not be an innocent angel brutally gunned down by the police, but a violently intoxicated 300 pounder who had already fractured to police officer’s skull before the officer fired at him?

Oh, wait, you still haven’t acknowledged that.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Oh you had this all figured out 11 days ago, huh?
You are certain now that the police officer’s ‘skull was fractured’ – and in fact you knew that 11 days ago.
If only you would’ve come forward August 9th with all of this.

Despite the entertainment of entertaining theories, Allah along with Ed etc. here have done a fair job of not convicting anyone or treating tidbits culled from unnamed sources as facts.

verbaluce on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

La la la I cant hear you
-Cnn and msdnc

cmsinaz on August 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Maybe Wilson’s eye was injured when he fired his pistol at a fleeing Brown, and the pistol kicked back and hit his eye…yeah, that’s it.

right2bright on August 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM

If the report of Wilson’s eye injury is accurate, it’s likely a career-ending injury. At least a police career out in the field, and not behind a desk. If the eye muscles can’t be fixed, it’s a significant disability for a cop, I would think.

RBMN on August 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Sorry to dissapoint you but there should be no trial if this was a good shoot. All early indications point to a legitimate use of deadly force against a violent agressor.

ObamatheMessiah on August 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Obama managed to make only one of his many campaign promises to come true. He and his minions have fundamentally changed this country… for the worst.

They will Zimmerman this officer because a loud obnoxious uneducated thieving mob demands it. The Obamanites will seek to crucify him just as they did with Zimmerman. Neither reason, common sense nor anything even remotely resembling justice will come into play in this fiasco. This is, as it always has been, a desperate attempt at bloodletting by a savage blood thirsty mob.

HotAirian on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

According to Gov Nixon, Michael Brown was shot in “broad daylight”….
d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Not sure what your point is. Brown was shot around noon. That qualifies as broad daylight in my book.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/

cam2 on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

The defense is going to argue that Wilson’s fear of death or severe bodily harm was reasonable; it’s hard to make that argument based on Brown’s size alone given that Wilson was armed and Brown wasn’t …

This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE reporting. Yes, Brown was unarmed, but how the hell could Wilson possible have known that? Come on Hot Air – you guys are better than this.

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

OT
Dear leader to speak at 12:45

Which means sometime after 1

cmsinaz on August 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

possible

possibly

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Did this information meet their journalistic standards?

faraway on August 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

12,000,000 arrests in 2012.
~425 Police Officer involved shootings while on duty.
32% the shootings involved a black person.
That is .0011% of the time.
Not a real common occurrence.
And that is the total, not just improper.

barnone on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

And there has never been a prior police shooting in Ferguson.

And about 6500 blacks are killed by handguns every year- not at the hands of the police-and yet fools like Allah race panderer go out with these false naratives that poor, gentle, intoxicated 300 pound men who have just violently robbed a store and fractured a police officer’s skull are innocent victims, who should be spoken to sternly and possibly pepper sprayed, or as a last resort, tased.

You’ve already incited one man to charge the police saying,”shoot me!” who is now dead.

Do you have a specific number of casualties in mind before you stop spreading the lies and start reporting the facts, Allah race panderer?

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Not sure what your point is. Brown was shot around noon. That qualifies as broad daylight in my book.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/

cam2 on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I’m guessing you didn’t watch Governor Nixon’s speech.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Come on Hot Air – you guys are better than this.

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Funny.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Why the gun went off will be a hot topic at trial, needless to say. It’s possible, I guess, that Wilson fired it deliberately, to intimidate Brown, but … why on earth would he do that? There are lots of ways a cop can intimidate you without blowing a hole in his own squad car or risking a ricochet. It’s more likely that the gun went off accidentally. How come? Did Brown grab for it when Wilson had it holstered? Or did Wilson have the gun out to intimidate Brown when it went off, either through Wilson’s own carelessness or because Brown grabbed at it himself?

The investigation should include looking for the bullet (or bullet hole) from that shot inside the police car. The location of that bullet (hole) might indicate whether there was a struggle for the gun before Wilson got out of the car, and why Wilson might have feared for his own life if Brown later “bumrushed” toward him (if Brown had tackled Wilson, he might have taken Wilson’s gun and shot him with it).

Exit question: when this incident first happened, why didn’t the Ferguson police department release information quickly on Wilson’s medical condition if he had been punched in the face, since it would have supported Wilson’s contention that Brown attacked him?

Steve Z on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Well Obviously, the only reason Brown attacked the officer was because the officer already had his gun drawn and was preparing to shoot Brown.

It’s simple self defense, any fool can see that. It’s why Brown punched the officer and tried to take away the gun.

Hell, if you are going to speculate, go big or go home.
Amateurs!

Joseph OHenry on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

It’s possible, I guess, that Wilson fired it deliberately, to intimidate Brown

no its not.
good way to set the vehicle on fire (fuel and brake lines on left side iirc) and with the asphalt being only 2+ feet away good way to ricochet.

dmacleo on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Oh, wait, you still haven’t acknowledged that.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Maybe because nobody knows anything? The only thing we are owed is the truth, nothing more nothing less.

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE reporting. Yes, Brown was unarmed, but how the hell could Wilson possible have known that? Come on Hot Air – you guys are better than this.

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Brown was armed. He had two of them attached to his 6’4″ 290LB body. He used one of them to fracture the officers eye socket. So the meme that little saint Mikey was unarmed is another stupid narrative pushed by the media.

HumpBot Salvation on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Why shouldn’t he? Micheal Brown was a teenager, you know, eighteen years old. Yes, eighteen is still a teenager.

Teenagers, according to that paragon of journalistic prose, Associated Press, is normally reserved for 13-17 years old. 18 is normally called a man or woman.

In this case even they have resorted to using kid, teenager, child, you name it. Gotta stress the narrative. Some wit on Nancy Grace said “Michael was a rather large child”. You think?

charles.browning on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

A local radio station here is saying that a national media source of theirs is saying Dorian Johnson finally admitted that Brown did in fact attack the officer and that no charges will be filed.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM

He cut a deal and told the truth to save his own worthless rear end. I get the impression that Johnson was the instigator in the convenience store robbery and Brown his muscle.

pc253 on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Funny.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Does the Ferguson PD use special holsters for their weapons which make it hard for a civilian to draw it? It’s my understanding that some police holsters do not allow a gun to simply be drawn like civilian ones; you have to know a trick to disable a safety feature to get it out–designed to specifically prevent a civilian from pulling a cop’s gun.

HakerA on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

The Ferguson Follies continue apace.

Bitter Clinger on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

They will Zimmerman this officer because a loud obnoxious uneducated thieving mob media demands it. The Obamanites will seek to crucify him just as they did with Zimmerman. Neither reason, common sense nor anything even remotely resembling justice will come into play in this fiasco. This is, as it always has been, a desperate attempt at bloodletting by a savage blood thirsty mob.

HotAirian on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Edited for accuracy.

talkingpoints on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Everyone here wondering why the cop shot the kid 6 times should go to AceofSpadesHQ’s OverNightThread from last night and read the FBI’s report from 2006 entitled “Deadly Encounters”. It’s eye-opening to learn just how many times assailants were shot multiple times by officers, I’m talking 10-15 times including head shots, yet were still able to return fire, to affect an escape, and sometimes to kill the cop who shot them. Far more police officers are killed by criminals each year than are criminals killed by cops. It is absolutely reasonable for this officer in Ferguson to assume that this “gentle giant” was trying to take his gun and use it to kill him.

fitzsweetpea on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

There are lots of ways a cop can intimidate you without blowing a hole in his own squad car or risking a ricochet. It’s more likely that the gun went off accidentally. How come? Did Brown grab for it when Wilson had it holstered? Or did Wilson have the gun out to intimidate Brown when it went off, either through Wilson’s own carelessness or because Brown grabbed at it himself?

This alone, is why this “case” has reached the point of idiocy.

Speculation…maybe an alien from space reached in, or maybe Wilson slipped on a banana peel, in his car…maybe Brown reached for a doughnut and Wilson became protective of his breakfast…maybe Wilson backed up, his gun got caught on the handle of the car, Brown reached to help him, Wilson panicked thinking he was going to be attacked, turned around quickly, caught his eye on the edge of the door…Brown got scared ran off and Wilson thought Brown hit him but it was the door, so Wilson shot brown, when he should have shot the door…there, another “theory”…

right2bright on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

cmsinaz on August 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Please tell me that Noah was wrong that that The Won did not fly back to DC to enlighten us.

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

They are saying that Dorian Johnson is changing his story.. He now says that Brown attacked the cop:

http://therightscoop.com/report-key-witness-dorian-johnson-now-admits-that-michael-brown-attacked-officer-wilson/

melle1228 on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“…it’s hard to make that argument based on Brown’s size alone given that Wilson was armed and Brown wasn’t…”

Seriously? If Brown was charging the officer, as has been claimed, then the weapon is only good if it is USED, i.e. if Wilson SHOOTS HIM. The gun is only good as a deterrent as long as the assailant is deterred. And it is only an equalizer when it actually puts bullets into the threat and takes it down. And at that point I don’t care if the sizes are reversed, if he is physically charging the officer (who has no idea what he might be on or how he might be trained) then the officer has a right to shoot.

But the fact is Brown IS both large and strong (as evidenced by his athletic history). Have you ever engaged physically, in ANY capacity with a man of his size? I HAVE. If the man is not conscious of his strength he can hurt people ACCIDENTALLY. I can’t imagine what damage he could do on purpose even without a weapon.

MC88 on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

cam2 on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Why would the Governor in a prepared statement use the language of “shot in broad daylight” when calling for a ‘vigorous prosecution”….? Read his full statement. It was a horribly biased pandering statement. I think most people know that Michael Brown was shot while the sun was shining….

d1carter on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE reporting. Yes, Brown was unarmed, but how the hell could Wilson possible have known that? Come on Hot Air – you guys are better than this.

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

CBS had on a forensic “expert” who claimed that more than one shot was unnecessary. Completely, irresponsible reporting and part of the problem.

HumpBot Salvation on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

Because some Yazidis and American journalists remain alive.

When they are all dead, the Ferguson story will blow away.

faraway on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

If only you would’ve come forward August 9th with all of this.

Despite the entertainment of entertaining theories, Allah along with Ed etc. here have done a fair job of not convicting anyone or treating tidbits culled from unnamed sources as facts.

verbaluce on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

None of this needed to come out. That isn’t how investigations work. But that is how you work though. You demand instant gratification. You make me sick.

Conservative4Ever on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Oh you had this all figured out 11 days ago, huh?
You are certain now that the police officer’s ‘skull was fractured’ – and in fact you knew that 11 days ago.
If only you would’ve come forward August 9th with all of this.

Despite the entertainment of entertaining theories, Allah along with Ed etc. here have done a fair job of not convicting anyone or treating tidbits culled from unnamed sources as facts.

verbaluce on August 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Hmm… interesting that those tidbits have in fact been later released as facts yet they don’t care because again it doesn’t fit the narrative. How about you shut up and learn the facts? I’m 2 miles from all of this and while I’ve been trying to educate, nobody cares because again it doesn’t fit their narrative.

MobileVideoEngineer on August 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Why shouldn’t he? Micheal Brown was a teenager, you know, eighteen years old. Yes, eighteen is still a teenager.

oscarwilde on August 20, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Because Ed considers himself a journalist. Journalists are governed – in part – by the AP Stylebook.

The AP Stylebook requires that all individuals aged 18 and over be referred to a ‘man’ or ‘woman.’

The entirety of the media are breaking their own rules in order to paint St. Michael the Ventilated as a delicate teen, much like they did by only showing childhood pictures of Trayvon Martin.

Washington Nearsider on August 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM

My mistake- The title of the report is “Violent Encounters”.

fitzsweetpea on August 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Aizen on August 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I notice that his Lt. Governor, possibly the only Republican in the state, has been criticizing the governor openly. And getting little to no coverage doing it, must be that united front the media wants to promote. /

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

There you go again.

Injecting common sense into what is obviously rampant speculation designed to get people foaming at the mouth.

cozmo on August 20, 2014 at 11:53 AM

cozmo on August 20, 2014 at 11:53 AM

It is gets lots of comments does it make me a troll? I’ve always wanted to be a troll.

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Dear leader to speak at 12:45

Which means sometime after 1

cmsinaz on August 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Please tell me that Noah was wrong that that The Won did not fly back to DC to enlighten us.

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

It was reported last night that obama had returned to Martha’s Vineyard – maybe he’ll be speaking at another fundraiser or something.

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Why’d it take 21 paragraphs to get to it?

Because it doesn’t fit the preferred meme – the one touted by the race baiters, race hustlers, race thugs, and the growing more ever so craven press.

Did this information meet their journalistic standards?

faraway on August 20, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Define standards? Are they the standards that most of us have regarding moral and ethical behavior – or are they the flexible standards required to push propaganda and a particular meme? I’m certain the Ombudsman would find nothing wrong with burying a very pertinent fact 21 paragraphs into a story with the justification that at least it wasn’t 22 paragraphs….

For the ‘elite’ media, we’re not allowed to question them or their motives. Such is the nature of the “Ministry of Truth”.

Athos on August 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:54 AM

You are way to lady like to be a troll.

But, if you want…TROLL.

Anything for you.

cozmo on August 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM

They are saying that Dorian Johnson is changing his story.. He now says that Brown attacked the cop:

http://therightscoop.com/report-key-witness-dorian-johnson-now-admits-that-michael-brown-attacked-officer-wilson/
melle1228 on August 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

His lawyer is not going to let him say things that are obviously and provably false. That’s his lawyer pressuring him.

RBMN on August 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

And yet, in one of the most reckless, and outright DANGEROUS
statements ever uttered by a politician, the Governor proclaimed
a Vigorous prosecution of the officer.

Has ANYONE called out this POS for his statement????????????

ToddPA on August 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Manson Guilty [Jay] Nixon declares

Judge_Dredd on August 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Pork-Chop on August 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I love all the wild speculation as to why he went back to DC in the first place. Milia probably went to a friends birthday party.

Cindy Munford on August 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

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