Winning hearts and minds: One Ferguson protester declares ‘ISIS is here’

posted at 1:21 pm on August 19, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The fundamentalist militants fighting under the Islamic State’s banner have destroyed several nearly 2,000-year-old religious shrines. They have carried out a near genocidal massacre of Iraq’s Shia. They have exiled, robbed, and forcibly converted Christians. ISIS militants have enslaved women and children, buried people alive. By some accounts, these medieval barbarians have beheaded kids and tied people to two cars traveling in opposite directions resulting in their being simply torn in two.

These are the horrors that ISIS is committing, and anyone who has even casually glanced at the international headlines in the last 75 plus days is aware of the terror this group is unleashing on the residents of those areas which they control. It is that condition which makes this sign which surfaced in Ferguson last night all the more abhorrent.

ISIS is here

BuzzFeed reporter Dorsey Shaw confirmed that this sign is real and not a Photoshop.

Conservatives will know well that the press is prone to featuring one inartful protest sign and implying that the tasteless sentiment expressed on it is representative of a group or even a whole movement. It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

That aside, this is an unquestionably offensive sentiment to express verbally much less in writing. While violence in Ferguson appears on the rise, and agitators stream into that troubled city – many of whom even Ferguson residents have denounced for instigating violence – this will not help the protesters win the hearts and minds of Americans watching events in Missouri unfold from their living rooms.

UPDATE: Caleb Howe has the video of this incident which broadcast on CNN:


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He was just saying “I is here”*

*Product of the public school system.

Rocks on August 19, 2014 at 1:25 PM

If I were there, I would be holding a sign that says

My 44 MAGNUM is here.

ToddPA on August 19, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Make the “I’s is here” Like “I’s is goin’ to da store for some free rellos”

Rocks on August 19, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Idiots wanting their 15 min of fame any way they can.

RblDiver on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Reading and current events not their strong points…

PatriotRider on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM

This is the equivalent of a tea party rally with some moron holding up a KKK HERE sign.

We can conclude from the lack of condemnation from the political and media left over this insanity infesting their precious protest-riots that they’re in favor of ISIS and what they do, right?

Good Lt on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Conservatives will know well that the press is prone to featuring one inartful protest sign and implying that the tasteless sentiment expressed on it is representative of a group or even a whole movement. It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Gee, Noah, you felt compelled to lecture us on this?

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Well, when ISIS said they were going to hang their flag from the top of the White House Obama almost busted a nut. So there’s that.

2lbsTest on August 19, 2014 at 1:31 PM

We need another squirrel for the lsm

cmsinaz on August 19, 2014 at 1:32 PM

You know, we wouldn’t be having any of these riots if the SLPD had just set up Free Speech Zones for the protesters.

Harbingeing on August 19, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Its fashionable, apparently, to carry signs and yell slogans that demand justice for Mike Brown.

What, exactly, would constitute justice for Mike Brown? Does anyone know?

Make the “I’s is here” Like “I’s is goin’ to da store for some free rellos”

Rocks on August 19, 2014 at 1:27 PM

“Kill the Juice”

BobMbx on August 19, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Could you please give an example in which we did? Past or present?

HotAirian on August 19, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Well, since we refuse to fight them there…

And people thought this was just a talking point.

rhombus on August 19, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Dear Noah,

After reading your lecture as to how I should or should not interpret images provided to me via the DNC public affairs contractors (MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and RT), I would like to lecture you about assuming contexts from a single picture.

You, and many others, assumed the large sign stating “ISIS here” is a promotional advertisement indicating the black protestors (some section of them) are either ISIS or ISIS supporters.

I say poppycock. The sign has a completely different meaning, and that is the Ferguson PD (and possibly the MO State Police and NG) is being accused of treating the blacks in Ferguson much like ISIS is treating anyone who is…..not ISIS.

BobMbx on August 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I’m actually surprised the protestors could spell ISIS.

Ask them to define the group, and what they stand for?

I don’t think they stand for paying Peggy Joseph’s mortgage or putting gas in these homies cars.

PappyD61 on August 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM

One Ferguson protester declares ‘ISIS is here’

Then forget the cops – bring out the heavy artillery.

The FBI needs to arrest the perp holding that sign and go water board his ass.

redguy on August 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM

No problem. Nobody seriously believes these “protesters” actually know what ISIS is.

Southernblogger on August 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Everyone from out of town should be made to go home.

Because as long as there are cameras that aren’t interested in the local problem… but making a national statement, there can be no honest airing of the facts.

petunia on August 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Nope. No benefit o/t doubt.

You have quasi-converted black wannabe muslim radicals marching a in a blue collar, integrated town.

If “small govt” = “raaaccissssts” because the prez is a brotha, then protestors in Ferguson are Islamist sympathizers.

budfox on August 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Pop quiz: How do you know they aren’t?

Hint: Look south.

formwiz on August 19, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Stop trying to make sense regarding the behavior of those f**ing low life parasite looters…

mnjg on August 19, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.
Could you please give an example in which we did? Past or present?

HotAirian on August 19, 2014 at 1:33 PM

While not exactly the same apples to apples comparison, check out some of the previous pot threads on this site. Although, not applied to “protest signs”, many self-proclaimed conservatives smear all weed smokers as dopey Cheech and Chong cartoons which only serves to stifle the discussion.

rhombus on August 19, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I say poppycock. The sign has a completely different meaning, and that is the Ferguson PD (and possibly the MO State Police and NG) is being accused of treating the blacks in Ferguson much like ISIS is treating anyone who is…..not ISIS.

BobMbx on August 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM

SSHHH. That’s exactly right.

But when do we on the right ever get the contextual benefit?

So, I’m staying with Islamists sympathisizer’s, most likely from Oakland.

I’m wondering if this is what has Lamont Hill so wigged to call out the “visitors”. He knows they’re agitators trying in incite chaos.

budfox on August 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Every network would would have done an extended interview with that idiot if they didn’t approve of the group that was protesting.

forest on August 19, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Gee, Noah, you felt compelled to lecture us on this?

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM

No kidding!

Incidentally, I don’t recall any Tea Party event where there was leftover trash, much less shooting at police, molotov cocktail throwing, looting, rioting and mayhem.

But yeah, please remind me to be fair and it keep in mind it’s probably only one stupid Ferguson “protester”. Sure, I’ll just ignore what my eyes are telling me.

MistyLane on August 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Fortunately, Eric Holder and 50 FBI personnel fromthe DOJ are on location and can scoop up members of a terrorist group.

butch on August 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Conservatives will know well that the press is prone to featuring one inartful protest sign and implying that the tasteless sentiment expressed on it is representative of a group or even a whole movement. It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Noah, did you lose your job at the DailyKos?

You just can’t get good help nowadays.

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 1:49 PM

I hope Noah writes stupid stuff because he’s trying to get a banner count of comments, rather than that he really believes this crap.

But sadly, I fear he is a McCain_Romney -type that plays to lose -so he can appear to be above it all, the fair one, the adult in the room, yadda yadda….

MistyLane on August 19, 2014 at 1:49 PM

The guy holding that sign should have been taken in for questioning by DHS. ISIS is a recognized terrorist organization.

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2014 at 1:59 PM

I say poppycock. The sign has a completely different meaning, and that is the Ferguson PD (and possibly the MO State Police and NG) is being accused of treating the blacks in Ferguson much like ISIS is treating anyone who is…..not ISIS.

BobMbx on August 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM

That’s quite possibly true. Still, you’d think if that was what was meant, the sign would instead read “Cops = ISIS” rather than “ISIS Here”, where “Here” would denote the location of the sign, which would be in the immediate vicinity of the protester holding it. So maybe he did intend to say that the cops were acting like ISIS, but if that was his intent he certainly picked a stupid way to try to communicate that sentiment — not that it surprises me.

Stoic Patriot on August 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM

I’m waiting for Noah to proclaim Obama is the best because of the creases in his slacks.

UnstChem on August 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Conservatives will know well that the press is prone to featuring one inartful protest sign and implying that the tasteless sentiment expressed on it is representative of a group or even a whole movement. It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

I agree with this entirely. What I don’t understand, is why is there a post dedicated to this one obvious dipwad, with an idiotic sign in front of the media cameras, who apparently has no clue what ISIS even does?

As Noah mentioned, it’s no different to apply the sentiment of that one dude with the “ISIS” sign and paint the whole crowd with it, that it is when some dopey scuzball wears a Nazi t-shirt at a Tea Party rally. If that meme of “ISIS” signs starts to spread at any future protest over this shooting, then I would highly suggest to other protesters that they point out these people as not being with them, just as Tea Party supporters did to the infiltrators attempting to make the whole group look bad.

But all that is secondary to conducting peaceful protests. MLK would be turning over in his grave at any violence committed in the name of racial equality…or in this case, what they see as racially-motivated murder, whether or not that’s actually the case. It was reassuring to see MLK’s niece (?) the other day condemning that sort of violent behavior.

My only

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM

It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Yeah, I’m sure at the end of the night those “protesters” load up the strollers in the back of the minivan and head back home in time to put the kids to bed.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM

BTW-

The Brown family doesn’t seem to be to concerned about the fact that there is all this rioting going on because of the death of their precious snowflake. They occasionaly “urge” that the demonstrations remain peaceful but it is clear that they are with the thugs looting and rioting.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM

one inartful protest sign

Please present evidence that this guy was not part of ISIS.

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 PM

It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10.

There were no problem signs during the Tea Party protests. It was only the colluding Vichy Right who agreed with the MSM that certain signs were “offensive”, when they weren’t in the least.

As to Ferguson and the signs there … this sentiment about them claiming the mantle of the American ISIS is nothing different from much of what this same group (and their white guilt lefty collaborators) love to say all the time. Before this, they tried to claim that they were like the barbaric Egyptian protesters – who were busy raping everything in sight and just making chaos and electing an insane, anti-Western, anti-humanity muslim brotherhood government (which Barky and his junta fully approved of, until they were forced to back away from the insane spectacle).

The Ferguson rioters are pretty much like ISIS – they wish they could do everything ISIS is doing. They are running amok over the shooting of a violent criminal who charged at the cop … It’s beyond pathetic. No civilized society really deserves to be burdened with their useless (at best) existence).

I’m just surprised that these riots aren’t being sponsored by Skittles.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Conservatives will know well that the press is prone to featuring one inartful protest sign and implying that the tasteless sentiment expressed on it is representative of a group or even a whole movement. It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Noah, did you lose your job at the DailyKos?

You just can’t get good help nowadays.

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 1:49 PM

This isn’t solely aimed at you, as your sentiment there is reflected by some others here as well…but what exactly is wrong, or “DailyKos-worthy”, about anything Noah said there?

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 PM

It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

Dishonest? Get a clue Noah.

ISIS and the Ferguson agitators share a common father – anti-social, jealousy, greed, spite and fanaticism. Did you not hear the chanting that they wanted Wilson dead? One group, ISIS, does all the things you described, the other does equally abhorrent things for which the MSM won’t report.

What of the nearby bridge where 2 white sisters were raped and tossed overboard to their deaths a few years ago? What of all the black-on-black, black-on-white, black-on-minority violence/mayhem/murders?

Heck, in terms of body count, ISIS and black violence in the US may be on par, just saying. One due to the “religion of peace”, the other due to the religion of reparations/grievance-mongering.

AH_C on August 19, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Everyone from out of town should be made to go home.

petunia on August 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I know locals who would wholeheartedly concur with this (as do I).

BobMbx on August 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Very possible.

Stoic Patriot on August 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Yes, it’s entirely possible he doesn’t know what he’s saying, versus what he started out wanting to say. Which may not be what he wanted to say by the time the high wore off and he finished the sign.

GWB on August 19, 2014 at 2:16 PM

but what exactly is wrong, or “DailyKos-worthy”, about anything Noah said there?

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 PM

1. Noah calls this an ‘inartful sign’. Does he have evidence of this?

2. The crowd is full of Communists, Black Panthers, etc. So, why shouldn’t we point it out? Why hasn’t HotAir pointed this out?

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 2:17 PM

what exactly is wrong, or “DailyKos-worthy”, about anything Noah said there?

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 PM

It’s the implication that we all need to be lectured about this sign, and not tarring with a broad brush. It’s a very elitist attitude.

GWB on August 19, 2014 at 2:19 PM

1. Noah calls this an ‘inartful sign’. Does he have evidence of this?

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Of course it’s inartful! You’ve got eyes, haven’t you? I’ve seen better banners put together for a pee-wee football league games by their little sisters.
Oh, wait, he meant that differently…………….

GWB on August 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM

BTW-

The Brown family doesn’t seem to be to concerned about the fact that there is all this rioting going on because of the death of their precious snowflake. They occasionaly “urge” that the demonstrations remain peaceful but it is clear that they are with the thugs looting and rioting.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM

If I”m one of the business owners or individuals who were injured, or who suffered property loss, I would be lining up to sue the Brown family. As history tell us, the family’s “angst” will really be about whether to sue for 10′s or 100′s of millions of $$. And then who to put in charge of their foundation. Which, of course, won’t do a GD thing for any of the urchins living in crap-ville.

MistyLane on August 19, 2014 at 2:23 PM

He was just saying “I is here”*

*Product of the public school system.

Rocks on August 19, 2014 at 1:25 PM

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Wow … another “first comment/thread winner.”

listens2glenn on August 19, 2014 at 2:24 PM

I say “ship ‘em to Iraq.”

listens2glenn on August 19, 2014 at 2:27 PM

We need another squirrel for the lsm

cmsinaz on August 19, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Heh.

WhirledPeas on August 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM

So we’re having a debate on what the meaning of IS,IS?

Bat Chain Puller on August 19, 2014 at 2:35 PM

It’s the implication that we all need to be lectured about this sign, and not tarring with a broad brush. It’s a very elitist attitude.

GWB on August 19, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Fair enough. I agree that having a whole post dedicated to that one particular sign is hardly necessary.

1. Noah calls this an ‘inartful sign’. Does he have evidence of this?

2. The crowd is full of Communists, Black Panthers, etc. So, why shouldn’t we point it out? Why hasn’t HotAir pointed this out?

faraway on August 19, 2014 at 2:17 PM

1. Considering this is the only sign seen at any of these protests/riots, and no one…as far as I’ve seen…has parroted that same notion, either verbally or by sign or by any other means of expression, then yes…that sign is “inartful” by every dictionary definition. Unless you have evidence that it is not “inartful”.

2. Beside the obvious strawman arguments…Communists and Black Panthers, certainly wouldn’t garner support from ISIS. The only person saying stuff like that, as far as I’m aware, is Alex “troofer” Jones. That “ISIS is here” sign wasn’t support for ISIS. We don’t even know if the sentiment on that one sign was meant to say the police acted like ISIS, or whether it was a thinly-veiled threat of protesters acting like ISIS.

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Rothman has been lecturing, insulting, and talking down to us from day one.

Blake on August 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM

1. Considering this is the only sign seen at any of these protests/riots, and no one…as far as I’ve seen…has parroted that same notion, either verbally or by sign or by any other means of expression,

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM

LOL. Insane, barbaric riots over a dirtbag thug aren’t, themselves, a means of “expression” to emulate ISIS and other anti-Western lowlife savages? Really?

You kill me, JetBoy … Too funny.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 19, 2014 at 2:58 PM

If only Isis was there!

LegendHasIt on August 19, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Maybe he means….nope I got nothing to excuse the guy.

athenadelphi on August 19, 2014 at 3:06 PM

“We’ve been looking for the enemy for some time now.
We’ve finally found him. We’re surrounded.
That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them.” ~ Chesty Puller USMC

lel2007 on August 19, 2014 at 3:07 PM

It is a dishonest tactic, one which the press will not apply to these protesters as they did to the tea party in 2009-10. Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

As I recall, Cloward-Piven doctrine calls for making your opposition live according to their own rules.

Dishonest? perhaps. But welcome to your own petard, members of the MFM.

I R A Darth Aggie on August 19, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Did you stop the riots yet, daddy?

Galtian on August 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM

LOL. Insane, barbaric riots over a dirtbag thug aren’t, themselves, a means of “expression” to emulate ISIS and other anti-Western lowlife savages? Really?

You kill me, JetBoy … Too funny.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 19, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Yeah those thugs are really out to emulate ISIS. If there were no ISIS, there wouldn’t be any riots, according to your logic. ISIS has nothing to do with this. Nothing.

But hey, if you want to believe they do, you go right on believing that.

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 3:42 PM

HotAir won’t cover the unprecedented blockage of comments by CNN and other news sources. What use are you then?

AmericaDS1234 on August 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Yeah those thugs are really out to emulate ISIS.

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Meh. Maybe not emulate, but the folks who have traveled to Ferguson to riot and loot and the ISIL a-holes are certainly two pea-brains in a pod.

GWB on August 19, 2014 at 3:49 PM

ISIS is now focused on the protesters in Ferguson. They want them to join.

Plus, another one shot dead…was knife-wielding looter.

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2014 at 3:58 PM

HotAir won’t cover the unprecedented blockage of comments by CNN and other news sources. What use are you then?

AmericaDS1234 on August 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Cutting and Pasting this whine on every single Feguson thread isn’t helping your cause, Sparky.

Del Dolemonte on August 19, 2014 at 4:19 PM

HotAir won’t cover the unprecedented blockage of comments by CNN and other news sources. What use are you then?

AmericaDS1234 on August 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Use this

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2014 at 4:33 PM

HotAir won’t cover the unprecedented blockage of comments by CNN and other news sources. What use are you then?

AmericaDS1234 on August 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM

The MSM blocking comments would hardly be surprising or breaking news. But I haven’t heard about any of this…what is CNN blocking?

JetBoy on August 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Conservatives should not be so quick to apply that same dishonest standard to the protesters in Ferguson.

How about applying due process of law?

Ever hear of that?

An investigation into such an incident is standard, and it will involve witnesses, sworn statements and a DA. Then a presentation to a Grand Jury and they will decide if the case is worthy of a trial.

And I apply the exact, same standard for those who are destroying or stealing property that they do not own. They also need to be brought in, witnesses giving sworn statements and a decision if there needs to be a trial.

I do NOT want summary justice as that is reserved for the battlefield. I prefer that military law stay with military events, and civil law stay with civil events and that the two do NOT get confused by anyone.

That may not be conservative, but it is a good way to say that you want due process for all, equal treatment for all and that a jury of peers be something available for those charged with crimes. I would assume that conservatives feel this is the way to go, but I can’t speak for all conservatives… and I’m not one so I will only speak for myself. Equal treatment under the law is like rainfall from heaven that blesses the earth, and that is what I support.

ajacksonian on August 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Entirely plausible that this guy is ISIS first — as opposed to a looter turned ISIS sympathiser — and in Ferguson on their behalf to stir the pot. We’ve got the ISIS photo out front of the White House. Every reason to believe they’re actively involved in trying to create unrest here in the homeland.

Arnold Yabenson on August 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM