Uh oh: Columnists now calling situation in Ferguson a ‘race war’

posted at 8:41 am on August 18, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The violent protests in Ferguson, Missouri following the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown only grew more intense over the weekend. As the primarily, but not exclusively, African-American locals continue express dissatisfaction with the state of American law enforcement, some of the nation’s commentators are examining the societal circumstances which have led these protesters to believe they have so few stakes in the system that they are prepared to take the risks associated with participating in mass violence.

A few political commentators have observed that there is something gravely wrong with our urban centers. They see the violence in Ferguson, which has been welcomed and celebrated by sympathizers in many of America’s great metropolises, as evidence of the breakdown of the social contract. Though perspectives vary widely as to what element of that contract is in breach.

National Review’s Kevin Williamson, for example, noted that many of these cities have experimented with virtually uninterrupted progressive governance for over half a century, promoted the state over the family, and put their faith in redistributive economic policies to provide social mobility. The results are predictable disappointment and, in some regrettable cases, violence.

Progressives spent a generation imposing taxes and other expenses on urban populations as though the taxpaying middle class would not relocate. They protected the defective cartel system of public education, and the union money and votes associated with it, as though middle-class parents would not move to places that had better schools. They imposed burdens on businesses, in exchange for more union money and votes, as though businesses would not shift production elsewhere. They imposed policies that disincentivized stable family arrangements as though doing so would have no social cost.

But the liberal perspective is quite different. A handful of influential writers on the left are raising concerns about the coming “race war.”

“This fist-shaking of everyone’s racial agenda distracts America from the larger issue that the targets of police overreaction are based less on skin color and more on an even worse Ebola-level affliction: being poor,” wrote former NBA player and Time columnist Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his column which warned of a coming “race war” that won’t be about race at all.

“Of course, to many in America, being a person of color is synonymous with being poor, and being poor is synonymous with being a criminal,” he added.

With each of these shootings/chokehold deaths/stand-your-ground atrocities, police and the judicial system are seen as enforcers of an unjust status quo. Our anger rises, and riots demanding justice ensue. The news channels interview everyone and pundits assign blame.

Abdul-Jabbar did not excuse the violence which has erupted in Ferguson, but he did seem to absolve those who believe that the hopelessness of their situation justifies dramatic actions designed to drive national attention toward their circumstances.

“The middle class has to join the poor and whites have to join African-Americans in mass demonstrations, in ousting corrupt politicians, in boycotting exploitative businesses, in passing legislation that promotes economic equality and opportunity, and in punishing those who gamble with our financial future,” Abdul-Jabbar added.

The Daily Beast’s Michael Tomasky was more blunt in his column noting that Ferguson is one battle in the larger, ongoing “urban-suburban race war.”

“[T]here’s a larger story here about race in America that involves the transformation of inner-ring suburbs over the last 30 years, and the response to that transformation, which have combined to create tensions that often rage in the suburban areas that surround our major cities,” he wrote. “These tensions are almost wholly about race.”

The Daily Beast columnist echoed themes similar to those touched on by Williamson about gentrification, tax policy, and the flight of the tax base. Tomasky’s conclusions diverged slightly, though, from those of the National Review columnist.

So even as black people pushed their way out into the suburbs, they typically haven’t done so in large enough numbers to gain real political power. This means that while the political power in many cities is in black hands today, whites still tend to run things in the counties within which those cities rest. Thus, one sub-story of the last 20 or so years in America has been a quiet but constant power struggle between municipal and county governments over who has what authority.

“The specific issue is this that juries in the United States are drawn from county-wide population pools,” Tomasky wrote of the situation in Ferguson. “This means, as the criminologist William Stuntz has observed, that people from large counties with exurbs and farms are often sitting in judgment of urban kids.”

While the language about a “race war” is somewhat irresponsible and largely unfounded (and would be the considered the height of recklessness had they been written by a conservative), the notion that some of these protests were sparked by a sense of desperation at the start is valid and important. It is worth having a national discussion about the criminal justice system, which many on the right and left believe is in desperate need of reform. But it is not fair to suggest that the current momentum and the tempo of these protests are entirely due to social dissatisfaction.

On Sunday night, amid some of the worst rioting in Ferguson yet, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon was forced to call in the National Guard. The officer in charge of the police response in Ferguson, Capt. Ron Johnson, determined that premeditated and coordinated attacks were being executed by protesters against police and on private businesses. Directionless expressions of social distress by a disenfranchised minority do not take the form of managed and focused assaults. That is the work of the criminals who have hijacked these protests for their own ends.

These columnists are correct to examine the origins of these protests and determine that they are founded in root causes far more universal than the shooting death of one teenager. They have, however, apparently evolved to a point now where they no longer resemble social unrest at all. In fact, they look much more like the majority of history’s reptilian mobs; common, recognizable, and fleeting, the majority of those violent outbursts did not herald some grand social transformation.


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Cool. We still have a few weeks of summer to spread it to other cities.

katy the mean old lady on August 18, 2014 at 8:45 AM

I’ve never seen a war where one opponent runs from fired tear gas and has to hold one hand onto his trousers in order for their pants not to fall down.

CBWV99 on August 18, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Tomasky wrote of the situation in Ferguson. “This means, as the criminologist William Stuntz has observed, that people from large counties with exurbs and farms are often sitting in judgment of urban kids

My recollection is most juvie trials are bench (judge) trials, not jury trials.

talkingpoints on August 18, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Shooting at an unarmed person 6 times should provoke a reaction but I’m not sure the looting and destruction of property should be one.

At the same time, any police department which is not willing to invest in dash cams should be view with suspicion.

The officer could have been exonerated himself a long time ago if everything was recorded on dashcam. Unless the police department feels most of it’s employees are crooks.

Citizens in Ferguson should demand one in every cop car.
Remember government employees work for us, not the other way around.

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

“This fist-shaking of everyone’s racial agenda distracts America from the larger issue that the targets of police overreaction are based less on skin color and more on an even worse Ebola-level affliction: being poor,” wrote former NBA player and Time columnist Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his column which warned of a coming “race war” that won’t be about race at all.

I read that piece of crap opinion piece by Kareem Abdul-Jabooze last night. It was like a transcript for an Obama speech. Basically a rant about class warfare and inequality. Hey, Jabeer. What exactly are you advocating? Massive transfers of wealth? We already have an exploding welfare state in this country. Look where it’s gotten the poor(particularly minorities). We have the party that claims to champion the cause for the little guy(aka the 99%) in control of the vast majority of inner cities not to mention the White House and Senate. Where has that led us?

You could send in a bunch of planes over Ferguson and dump millions in cash over that town and it wouldn’t solve a damn thing. The solutions to the problems they’re suffering from there can’t be achieved via any government program or subsidies. And even Jablunt knows it.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

*The officer could have exonerated*

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

It takes two sides to make (coexisting) peace, and one side to make war. A war ends in peace when one side is dead.

Be careful about what you prognosticate liberals, you just might get it.

Stoic Patriot on August 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM

It’s what 0bama wanted all along.

CurtZHP on August 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Tomasky wrote of the situation in Ferguson. “This means, as the criminologist William Stuntz has observed, that people from large counties with exurbs and farms are often sitting in judgment of urban kids

Yea and when they are judged by their “peers” these young punks are allowed to walk because the jurors think this is a blow against the “Man”.

What we have to face is a group of people who are only 13% of the population are responsible for 50% of the homicides. That is a really big problem for which there doesn’t seem to be any solution.

JOHNPAULJONES on August 18, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Be careful about what you prognosticate liberals, you just might get it.

Stoic Patriot on August 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM

They have no clue what seeds they sow.

dogsoldier on August 18, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Ahhhh, “race war”, was wondering how long it would take for this expression to rear its head. Considering that’s what Jug Ears and his minions have wanted from the start, I’m surprised it took this long. However, methinks it will not go as they had hoped.

waterytart on August 18, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Shooting at an unarmed person 6 times should provoke a reaction but I’m not sure the looting and destruction of property should be one.

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

You’re not sure about looting and destruction? You have burned too much weed.

wifarmboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Race war?

Is that what clearing out the liquor store without paying is called nowadays?

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:00 AM

This idea is despicable and incorrect. Many of the “poor” avoid benefitting from education and have “trapped” themselves with their refusal to be responsible. Having had the opportunity to work with “poor” of all races, the characteristics are common: teenage pregnancy and promiscuity, no father or strong responsible male role model, poor attention to education, no work ethic. A healthy dose of refusal to accept responsibility for personal behavior is also epidemic.

I do not understand the benefit of importing thousands of uneducated teens except to fan these flames. And inculcating a “left behind” mantra is also designed to cause trouble. This and all that ammo is the plan of this malignant president.

clnurnberg on August 18, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Be careful about what you prognosticate liberals, you just might get it.

Stoic Patriot on August 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM
They have no clue what seeds they sow.

This. 12% percent of the people taking on the other 88% isn’t a smart move unless you’re a Marvel-universe-level warrior. My concern here is that in their never ending effort to be ‘evenhanded’, the Authorities will only continue to make it worse.

Mike Kozlowski on August 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM

The officer could have been exonerated himself a long time ago if everything was recorded on dashcam. Unless the police department feels most of it’s employees are crooks.

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

The local population has seen the alleged perp’s video. They deny what they see. Their defiance of logic will not end there. They’re completely indoctrinated as the permanent victims.
The police know the score. The press serves the government. They’ll doctor any video and deceive the public that their/your master may have his distraction from the burning world his inaction has created, and the opportunity for his Messianic messaging soon to come.

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM

OWS Part II

Coming soon to a city near you.

There’s some democrat operatives somewhere getting the no-rape tents and the bongos out of the storage lockers.

HumpBot Salvation on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

You could send in a bunch of planes over Ferguson and dump millions in cash over that town and it wouldn’t solve a damn thing. The solutions to the problems they’re suffering from there can’t be achieved via any government program or subsidies. And even Jablunt knows it.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

“[T]here’s a larger story here about race in America that involves the transformation of inner-ring suburbs over the last 30 years, and the response to that transformation, which have combined to create tensions that often rage in the suburban areas that surround our major cities,” he wrote. “These tensions are almost wholly about race.”

Said the man who has never lived in any if these areas, who has never been mugged on the street that he was able to play on unsupervised as child, who has never had his garage or home broken into, whose children are not assaulted daily at school, who hasn’t watched the homes in the neighborhood go rental and turn into dilapidated drug dens, who hasn’t had his friend have to close his store because he couldn’t stop the thefts and robberies, and who hasn’t witnessed his municipal government turn into an utterly corrupt, thieving patronage machine that spends a double-digit percentage of its’ underwater budget on legal defense.

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

You could send in a bunch of planes over Ferguson and dump millions in cash over that town and it wouldn’t solve a damn thing. The solutions to the problems they’re suffering from there can’t be achieved via any government program or subsidies. And even Jablunt knows it.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

I’ve heard the theory that the best way to get rid of a housing project is to give each of them a thousand dollars.

By morning they’d all be dead from trying to kill each other for everyone else’s thousand dollars.

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Of course they do, the difficult part is explaining black officer Johnson ordering tear gas fired at the rioters.

Wait..I got it…Johnson is a white-black, whew that was close.

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Glad to see the press finally calling a spade a spade.

As long as we continue to have these deep pockets of Republican-controlled cesspools it will be open season on victimized African-Americans. We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community.

“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

talkingpoints on August 18, 2014 at 8:46 AM

The overwhelming majority (north of 90%) of cases never go to trial, they are plead out.

artist on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Obama is leading the country towards ruin on multiple fronts, cheered on by people who cannot be bothered mere facts. What are we going to do about it?

claudius on August 18, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Puhleeze frank lib

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 9:08 AM

I used to live in the suburbs around Atlanta. I had black neighbors and we got along together great. We’d have BBQ cookouts, go to the community pool, hang out for “poker and pool tuesday nights”… I don’t understand why its racial.

If those same neighbors didn’t take care of their lawn, let their kids run around the neighborhood causing trouble, played loud music until the wee hours of the evening or had the police show up repeatedly for drug use, domestic violence, whatever, then my opinion of my neighbors would be a lot different – regardless of whether they were black or white or Asian or Eskimo.

Defenestratus on August 18, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Shooting at an unarmed person 6 times should provoke a reaction but I’m not sure the looting and destruction of property should be one.

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Depends on what the shootee was doing when they absorbed the 6 rounds, and that is unclear at this time.

But whatever, just take the opportunity to outfit yourself with whatever you need for free while the facts are still hazy, those Air Jordans are spendy.

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 9:09 AM

My recollection is most juvie trials are bench (judge) trials, not jury trials.

talkingpoints on August 18, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Here, in Hamilton County, Ohio, which includes Cincinnati, the blacks and Dems got their black Juvie court judge elected in a contested election. She turned into a trainwreck. She got under the skin of the local rag (The Enquirer) so often by booting them from court that even it went after her hammer and tong. She’s been only leave for six months awaiting trial on several felonies involving maladministration of her court. A clusterphuck.

Anecdotal story on juries. I got called about five years ago. I got sent in for voir dire for a domestic abuse beef. I and a church lady were almost immediately dismissed on peremptory challenges. They kept me long enough to see the entire voir dire. Defendant was present. I think names of defendant and abused were mentioned. I noticed one young black gal got included in the jury.

Trial started next day. They roll everyone in, and defense counsel gets into his opening statement when the black gals cries out, “I know the defendant! I’m the one who called 911 to arrive at the scene of the beating.”

Oy, mistrial.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Glad to see the press finally calling a spade a spade.

As long as we continue to have these deep pockets of Republican-controlled cesspools it will be open season on victimized African-Americans. We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community.

“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Now that’s funny right there.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

It takes two sides to make (coexisting) peace, and one side to make war. A war ends in peace when one side is dead.

Be careful about what you prognosticate liberals, you just might get it.

Stoic Patriot on August 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM

The real problem with this ridiculous notion is that I don’t see what the endgame is here. The riots and protests in the 1960′s made sense. They were fighting for civil rights. Equality.

What is it that’s being denied right now? Justice? Civil rights? Hard to argue that right now given that Michael Brown had just robbed a store and was possibly charging at the police officer who shot him. Economic inequality? Who’s standing in the way of that? Politicians? Ok, stop voting at a 90+% clip for people who block any sort of public education reform and who make life miserable for small business owners.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

… now calling situation in Ferguson a ‘race war’ …

… and, if Holder’s autopsy results are dramatically different from the results of the first two, they are going to get one.

Pork-Chop on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Shooting at an unarmed person 6 times should provoke a reaction but I’m not sure the looting and destruction of property should be one.

weedisgood on August 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

I’m not sure stoners should be allowed to take care of themselves. They tend not to show much in the way of critical thinking, orfact analysis, as demonstrated by the above.

NotCoach on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

OMG OMG the president is cutting his vacation short!

forest on August 18, 2014 at 9:12 AM

We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community a Detroit or North Korea as well.

“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

fify

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 9:12 AM

So even as black people pushed their way out into the suburbs, they typically haven’t done so in large enough numbers to gain real political power.

What is black political power vs. white political power. Calvin Coolidge and Eugene Van Debs were both “white” yet incredibly different in terms of politics.

It is ideas that matter, not skin color. Of course, as Dear Liar has proven to be such an epic failure the Left has to gin up other causes.

rbj on August 18, 2014 at 9:14 AM

What is it that’s being denied right now? Justice? Civil rights?

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

The right to have things that are essential to everyday living.

Like hair extensions and booze.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Uh oh: Columnists now calling situation in Ferguson a ‘race war’

Wishful thinking.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM

I’ve heard the theory that the best way to get rid of a housing project is to give each of them a thousand dollars.

By morning they’d all be dead from trying to kill each other for everyone else’s thousand dollars.

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

If throwing money at the problem was the solution, LBJ’s Great Society would’ve solved it decades ago.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM

The good news is that even in the liberal New York tabloids, despite political attempts to elevate a sinking story with special autopsies and national guard troops, Ferguson has slipped from the front page news to page 36, wedged in between hemorrhoid ads.

The bad news is that St Louis and environs, which has lost nearly 300% of its population since 19540 will probably lose even more. Who in their right mind would want to live there? The news media can call the situation whatever they want but after the fickle attention given to Ferguson drifts away, the people left behind, thanks to looted and destroyed stores which merchants will never return to, will have an even more difficult and costly time shopping and finding jobs.

MaiDee on August 18, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Glad to see the press finally calling a spade a spade.

As long as we continue to have these deep pockets of Republican-controlled cesspools it will be open season on victimized African-Americans. We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community.

“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Now that’s funny right there.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Frank Lib is getting pretty good at this … whatever it is…

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 18, 2014 at 9:17 AM

This is what Obama and Holder wanted, it must be because they have done zero for the black community. They could have set some higher expectations for them but instead coddled them with words and did nothing to inspire them, wasted opportunity.

tim c on August 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Innocent bystanders get killed in the black gunfights in Chicago and elsewhere but the incidents that get their dander up are when their maniacs are stopped by bullets while brutally attacking white people. They respect their homicidal maniacs more than their innocents.

Buddahpundit on August 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

The good news is that even in the liberal New York tabloids, despite political attempts to elevate a sinking story with special autopsies and national guard troops, Ferguson has slipped from the front page news to page 36, wedged in between hemorrhoid ads.

The bad news is that St Louis and environs, which has lost nearly 300% of its population since 1950 will probably lose even more. Who in their right mind would want to live there? The news media can call the situation whatever they want but after the fickle attention given to Ferguson drifts away, the people left behind, thanks to looted and destroyed stores which merchants will never return to, will have an even more difficult and costly time shopping and finding jobs.

MaiDee on August 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Wait..I got it… Johnson is a white-black, whew that was close.

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Good thing he isn’t a “white-Hispanic” or he’d really be in trouble.

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Glad to see the press finally calling a spade a spade.

As long as we continue to have these deep pockets of Republican-controlled cesspools it will be open season on victimized African-Americans. We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community.

“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Damn, that’s some good sh!t you’re smoking. Perhaps someone as wise as you can enlighten me. Places like Detroit have been ruled by Dems lock, stock, and barrel for 60 years. Yet, they are Third World sh!tholes. Why aren’t they safe? Why is there discrimination? Why is there poverty? Just askin’.

307wolverine on August 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Forest
hes heading back on tues

No worries about his tee times

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 9:21 AM

The right to have things that are essential to everyday living.

Like hair extensions and booze.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Don’t forget curl relaxer.

It’s right there after Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM

… now calling situation in Ferguson a ‘race war’ …

… and, if Holder’s autopsy results are dramatically different from the results of the first two, they are going to get one.

Pork-Chop on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

“This video of the alleged perp’s violent behavior is circumstantial. We don’t even believe it was really him. However we have proof that the bullets fired into this young black, well child really were from a white man, the devil of the day.”
Eric Holder
George Zimmerman. Second round. So yeah they’re right about the race war. Really when are whites gonna learn their place under this regime? They all look the same under progressivism. They’re all just baggers. The left’s newest derogatory term. Not much changes with them does it?

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM

It’s not a race war – it’s a class war.

Thugs vs civilized human beings

I have no problem with the people who are peacefully protesting – the thugs shooting at people, throwing Molotov cocktails and looting are the ones that need to be stopped.

gophergirl on August 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM

As the primarily, but not exclusively, African-American locals continue express dissatisfaction with the state of American law enforcement, some of the nation’s commentators are examining the societal circumstances which have led these protesters to believe they have so few stakes in the system that they are prepared to take the risks associated with participating in mass violence.

Oh stop it. What risks? And “so few stakes”? Please. What opportunities for advancement and participation in the collective life of the country are denied to them?

Cleombrotus on August 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM

So even as black people pushed their way out into the suburbs, they typically haven’t done so in large enough numbers to gain real political power.

I bet all the whites left in Ferguson will move away now, the racists.

vlad martel on August 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM

The right to have things that are essential to everyday living.

Like hair extensions and booze.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM

What frustrates me more than anything is that every time stuff like this happens, no one ever uses the opportunity to start a real discussion about the issues that are affecting the black community. Instead it’s just race-baiting and community agitating.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Free money and no responsibility for vile behavior

clnurnberg on August 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Well all I can say is thank God that Lew Alcindor has weighed in on this…

dpduq on August 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM

307wolverine on August 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM

He doesn’t mean it. It is satirical. That is his style. I had the same reaction the first time I saw one of his posts, too.

Patriot Vet on August 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Don’t forget curl relaxer.

It’s right there after Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Of course, how could I forget. America really needs to do away with that old, out-of-date constitution authored by racist white men and replace it with something more… “just.” Perhaps Eric Holder can draft a New Constitution, become the black leader Obama should have been, and solve this “race war” once and for all.

/s

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM

A thousand year from now the vast majority of blacks will be in the same crap that they are in now, living under the yoke of the welfare state, uneducated, infested with crimes and drugs, broken families, vast majority of their children born out of wedlock, and many other ills… However all this is self inflicted and of course with a great help from the white liberals…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Trayvon Martin’s death was a useful tool for the left in drumming up adversarial emotions for the 2012 elections. NBC played a major role in converting George Zimmerman from a Hispanic into a racist white man. If the media can inflame enough racial hatred and the President can stoke enough impeachment fear, the midterms can be affected.

It will only take a few key states to keep control of the Senate. The control of the Judiciary is at stake for the left. Expect this story to continue into the fall.

DaNang67 on August 18, 2014 at 9:30 AM

“But, in general, white-against-black economically impacts the future of the black community. Black-against-white has almost no measurable social impact.”

Noah forgot that part of the hit piece Kareem Abdul-Jabbar put out. Along with the parts where Kareem Abdul-Jabbar attacked and blamed Republican politicians only, Fox News and Capitalism for what is happening in Ferguson. Besides all of that, Kareem is just a great guy, right? Nothing wrong with a victim-hood minded liberal millionaire blaming Caucasians, Fox News, only GOP politicians and Capitalism while justifying black on white racism because according to him it has no social impact.

CommieJuice on August 18, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Sell those papers.
Boost those ratings.

TimBuk3 on August 18, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Ahhhh, “race war”, was wondering how long it would take for this expression to rear its head. Considering that’s what Jug Ears and his minions have wanted from the start, I’m surprised it took this long. However, methinks it will not go as they had hoped.

waterytart on August 18, 2014 at 8:57 AM

This is what Obama and Holder wanted, it must be because they have done zero for the black community. They could have set some higher expectations for them but instead coddled them with words and did nothing to inspire them, wasted opportunity.

tim c on August 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM

And, Frank Lib will play the useful idiot, again.

Fallon on August 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM

A friend of mine in college was obsessed with the stuff. I remember saying “Hey [name] why not put that money towards food or something…

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

There is no hope for the vast majority of blacks in America… They have chosen the path of their own destruction by be financially enslaved by the welfare state and all the ills that come with it…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

What frustrates me more than anything is that every time stuff like this happens, no one ever uses the opportunity to start a real discussion about the issues that are affecting the black community. Instead it’s just race-baiting and community agitating.

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM

The status quo shall reign supreme.

It’s because some of the leaders within the black community don’t even want to entertain the possibility that the Democrat Party and leftists have destroyed the black family over several decades with their policies. They love to blame the discriminatory culture and Republicans, but if one were to simply take a look at cities like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and others, they’d see how Democrats have run those places into the ground.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:37 AM

A friend of mine in college was obsessed with the stuff. I remember saying “Hey [name] why not put that money towards food or something…

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Would it be racist to call it a drug?

I await MSNBC’s response on how to define curl relaxer.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM

The vast majority of criminal cases are plea bargained.

Viator on August 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Cool. We still have a few weeks of summer to spread it to other cities.

katy the mean old lady on August 18, 2014 at 8:45 AM

It’s already started.

In Baltimore http://m.wbaltv.com/news/baltimore-rally-to-support-ferguson-protests/27483040

And in Oakland and LA, with OWS helping fan the flames http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/17/Protests-Rise-Again-in-Oakland-Initially-Over-Ferguson-MO-Shooting

Patriot Vet on August 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

All of these cities have a common characteristic, they are run by democrats. democrats have ruined inner city families with their policies.

crosshugger on August 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Unfortunately LBJ’s plan worked. If you search for the vulgar quote, you’ll be shocked by it.

dogsoldier on August 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Is Zero planning to use these situations to invoke martial law?

dogsoldier on August 18, 2014 at 9:46 AM

RaHoWa!!
lulz

abobo on August 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM

The lawyer for the owners of the convenience store made the statement that the captain in command of the State Police contingent which was across the street made the pointblank statement that they were not going to try and stop the looting of their store. My personal belief is the reason they didn’t want to arrest the looters was that their booking addresses would show them to not be residents of Ferguson and reinforce claims that outside agitators are being brought in to fan the flames of racism.

Muscarella on August 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM

It’s because some of the leaders within the black community don’t even want to entertain the possibility that the Democrat Party and leftists have destroyed the black family over several decades with their policies. They love to blame the discriminatory culture and Republicans, but if one were to simply take a look at cities like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and others, they’d see how Democrats have run those places into the ground.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:37 AM

They know that they have destroyed the black families. It’s all about power, destroy the family be dependent on government.

wifarmboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Cool. We still have a few weeks of summer to spread it to other cities.

katy the mean old lady on August 18, 2014 at 8:45 AM

It’s already started.

In Baltimore http://m.wbaltv.com/news/baltimore-rally-to-support-ferguson-protests/27483040

And in Oakland and LA, with OWS helping fan the flames http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/17/Protests-Rise-Again-in-Oakland-Initially-Over-Ferguson-MO-Shooting

Patriot Vet on August 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Hmm…A Race War? Not a brilliant idea.

JOHNPAULJONES on August 18, 2014 at 9:51 AM

We need The Hungerforce to weigh in on this..

ToddPA on August 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM

As long as we continue to have these deep pockets of Republican-controlled cesspools it will be open season on victimized African-Americans.
Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

And by “cesspools” you mean low crime areas of civilized Americans who are taught not to steal and attempt to swipe a police officer’s gun.

crrr6 on August 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Lou Alcindor, genius.

Akzed on August 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM

It could well be a “race war” but the real danger will occur if there is a viable counter effort by the opposing citizenry. These are very sad and dangerous times.

rplat on August 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM

They know that they have destroyed the black families. It’s all about power, destroy the family be dependent on government.

wifarmboy on August 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM

And make out like bandits every time there’s an unfortunate death for them to exploit.

In a sane society, the Sharpton and Jackson types would be shamed into hiding.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM

This. 12% percent of the people taking on the other 88% isn’t a smart move unless you’re a Marvel-universe-level warrior. My concern here is that in their never ending effort to be ‘evenhanded’, the Authorities will only continue to make it worse.

Mike Kozlowski on August 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM

A simple seventy-two hour siege is sufficient to end any sort of “race war”, or more properly, “a culture war”. The culture that the Left has made stereotyped as racial, doesn’t have the ability to plan or to establish what a “win” looks like.

So far, a “win” in that culture’s books, is “has my alcohol/drug dependency been fulfilled today?”.

Reuben Hick on August 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM

This is all BS…people like Abdul Jabber are full of shiite…even the dummycrap policies are only indirectly responsible…the values of !. No morals expressed as illegitimacy where kids have no fathers and only poor, stupid mothers 2. No work ethic 3. No desire to learn and get an education 4. Substance abuse are what is behind the destruction of the black community…when gov. pays people to be this way it only produces a lack of personal responsibility and creates entitlement…all the stealing, violence, idiocy etc. is just the final product…no matter who does what…to any level…the destruction will continue unabated until these values are addressed…whites and hispanics who live the same way have the same outcomes…it is as sure as day and night…

cp3984 on August 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Kareem: “But, in general, white-against-black economically impacts the future of the black community. Black-against-white has almost no measurable social impact.

Me: “Done!”

mjs28c on August 18, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Lamenting the destruction of the family, etc. doesn’t win elections. Blaming Republicans does.

rlwo2008 on August 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM

The only slowing the exodus out of Ferguson will be selling homes. Property values should be approaching -0. The smart one will simply abandon them.

MaiDee on August 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Kareem didn’t go to jail for brutally assaulting that white dude that time and wants to see legalized black on white assaults for the whole community.

Buddahpundit on August 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

St Louis and environs, which has lost nearly 300% of its population since 1950… MaiDee on August 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Huh, maybe that’s why they’re so negative.

Akzed on August 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM

And, Frank Lib will play the useful idiot, again.

Fallon on August 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Frank (as in tells what a Lib honestly thinks) Lib is a parody poster … and a darn good one.

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Dear Leader has done a great job…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 10:14 AM

“Valerie just what the hell is going on there? I’m leaving the green every 15 to shine light on these backbirths. If I have to answer one question, just one question I haven’t pre planted about Iraq someone’s arse is gone! Can you not find a spark to flame up there?”
“Gotta a ‘Trayvon’ working outside St. Louis sir. Al and the alphabets are on the way now. Your deliverance will be being hailed 3 you have my word.”

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I’ve never seen a war where one opponent runs from fired tear gas and has to hold one hand onto his trousers in order for their pants not to fall down.

CBWV99 on August 18, 2014 at 8:46 AM

AHHHH HAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAA…..
So TRUE.

Your killin me Smalls……..

mechkiller_k on August 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

“in 3. Sir.”

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

In some areas, the reality of the urban center/suburban ring when it comes to poor and rich areas disappeared decades ago, though the deteriorating near-suburbs came before the urban core gentrification of the past 20 or so years in a number of major cities. And those who decry the new reality are setting up looming confrontation between the gentrifiers — many of them solid, upstanding liberals — and liberals further in towards the areas that never really became that downtrodden, who sympathize with the activists angry over seeing areas that previously were part of their power base slipping away.

It’s actually a similar dynamic to what played out from the late 50s to the early 70s in cities across America, where the limousine liberals with the money to wall themselves off from the worst of the urban decay didn’t give a damn if the outlying neighborhoods fell apart, as working class families moved to the suburbs. But in this case, you’ve got those families’ grandchildren moving back into those same areas, and being a lot more politically savvy, it’s going to be fun to watch the collision as they see the investments in their homes and businesses in those newly-gentrified areas threatened in the name of social justice.

jon1979 on August 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM

“Columnists”………..?

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 10:19 AM

A bunch of rioters destroying a community and nation due to race-fueled hatred, propaganda, and partisan agitation. Nope I didn’t overshoot the ISIS thread. We are talking about the animals being allowed to run amok in Ferguson.

Happy Nomad on August 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Last week-end, 7 people were killed and 29 were wounded In Chicago…

There was no riot!

Nor were Chicago’s mourners graced with the presence of:

Al Sharpton

Jesse Jackson

Martin Luther King, III

Toure

MSNBC

CNN

The New York Times

Michael Eric Dyson

Marc Lamont Hill

Luke Russert

LZ Granderson

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Attorney General Eric Holder

Don Lemon

Ryan ‘Are these rubber bullets or ear plugs?’ Reilly of The Huff Post

Human Rights Watch

American Civil Liberties Union

Melissa Harris-Perry

Council on American–Islamic Relations

National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People

New Black Panther Party

Congressman John Lewis

Congressman Elijah Cummings

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee

Congressman Keith Ellison

Congresswoman Maxine Waters

Angela Davis

Occupy Wall Street

Socialist Party

Democratic Socialists of America

ANSWER

+++++++

Last week-end in New Orleans, 5 people were murdered and 11 were wounded. Two of those wounded were toddlers and were critically injured. One was permanently blinded. The boys mum was also injured. All victims were black. The City is holding a food fair and concert to raise money to pay for the family’s medical bills, recuperative expenses, and necessary remodelling to the family home.

There was no riot!

Nor were New Orleans’ mourners honoured with the presence of:

Al Sharpton

Jesse Jackson

Martin Luther King, III

Toure

MSNBC

CNN

The New York Times

Michael Eric Dyson

Marc Lamont Hill

Luke Russert

LZ Granderson

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Attorney General Eric Holder

Don Lemon

Ryan ‘Are these rubber bullets or ear plugs?’ Reilly of The Huff Post

Human Rights Watch

American Civil Liberties Union

Melissa Harris-Perry

Council on American–Islamic Relations

National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People

New Black Panther Party

Congressman John Lewis

Congressman Elijah Cummings

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee

Congressman Keith Ellison

Congresswoman Maxine Waters

Angela Davis

Occupy Wall Street

Socialist Party

Democratic Socialists of America

ANSWER

And, I’m thinking that the entire City is eternally grateful for their absence.

Resist We Much on August 18, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I’m betting the Lefties talking of race war don’t include all the Central Americans (especially the ones coming in now) in the mix.

They seem to be the ones driving blacks out of neighborhoods in places like LA.

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM

I read that piece of crap opinion piece by Kareem Abdul-Jabooze last night. It was like a transcript for an Obama speech. Basically a rant about class warfare and inequality. Hey, Jabeer. What exactly are you advocating? Massive transfers of wealth? We already have an exploding welfare state in this country. Look where it’s gotten the poor(particularly minorities). We have the party that claims to champion the cause for the little guy(aka the 99%) in control of the vast majority of inner cities not to mention the White House and Senate. Where has that led us?

Doughboy on August 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Hey, I have a great idea. Let’s pass “amnesty”, and flood the labor markets with hordes of people willing to work for next to nothing, thereby throwing even more of the urban Blacks into poverty.

OK, sarcasm mode off. There will remain large areas of racially segregated rban destitution until the black community comes to the collective realization that progressivism is just one big scam.

SubmarineDoc on August 18, 2014 at 10:29 AM

The Jabaar piece could be the most incoherent article I gave ever read. It reads like a 7th grader copied and pasted every tired progressive meme regarding race and just cobbled them together to meet a deadline. My advice to Kareem for the next time he wants to write is to just tell me how to perfect my sky hook.

This whole local incident in Ferguson is the end result of progressive liberal policies. Utopia indeed.

Ellis on August 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM

We must remind all Americans, but especially blacks, Latinos, women, the poor, and the homosexuals, that only be electing Democrats can they hope to one day live in a safe and discrimination-free community.
“Remember Ferguson!” will be our battle cry for Election Day in 2014 and 2016.

Frank Lib on August 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Heh. You white libs continue to oppress minorities with your snake oil sales pitches. Keep telling blacks that democrat Governor and Senator in Missouri are really Republican Tea Partiers and those black cops are Republicans. Great stuff.

Jaibones on August 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM

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