Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on August 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama on Monday lamented the shooting of an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Mo., saying the episode showcased the distrust that minorities in many communities have of their local police officers.

“In too many communities around the country, the gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement,” Obama said, weighing in on the raging controversy. “In too many communities, too many young men of color are left behind and seen only as objects of fear.”…

Despite their anger over the death of black 18-year-old Michael Brown, who was shot to death by local police, Obama said protesters had no right to use violence against police or loot area stores.

“Let’s seek to heal rather than to wound each other,” the president said.

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On one level, Obama’s decision to watch and wait on high-profile incidents in which race seems to play a role makes perfect sense. As president — and particularly as the country’s first African American president — his words carry huge weight. He and his team know that and want to do everything they can to help calm situations while allowing those in charge on the local level to do their jobs. At the same time, Obama is caught between a genuine — and much-expressed — desire to use his unique experiences to move the country beyond its divisive racial past and the realities on the ground, which suggest we aren’t in that post-racial America just yet.

In many ways, Obama’s difficulty in navigating matters of race as president mirrors his struggles in other areas. He has repeatedly and eloquently spoken about race — and his experiences in making his way in the world as the son of a white mother and a Kenyan father — over the past decade. But those words have done little to heal the racial wounds in the country. Perhaps it’s too much to expect any one individual, even the president, to help finally close such a deep and long-standing gash on the country’s conscience. But such is the historic nature of Obama’s presidency that many people, both white and black, expect him to do just that.

Today at least, Obama’s vision of a post-racial America looks even further away than it did that night a decade ago in Boston.

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As violence raged in Ferguson, Mo., last week, President Barack Obama was hobnobbing with high-class political friends at an exclusive country club. On Sunday night, as the situation on the ground hit new lows, he and First Lady Michelle Obama were enjoying a jazz concert followed by dinner on Martha’s Vineyard, where they were vacationing.

The death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown at the hands of a white police officer, and the subsequent violence by police and protesters, has once again put Obama on defense over his handling of crisis situations, coming under fire from all corners of the political spectrum for a slow response to the controversy. In recent days, Obama has faced calls to visit Ferguson first-hand to see the violence and attempt to bring about a peaceful end to it. But Obama, wary of being seen as diverting law enforcement resources, is unlikely to make the trip until the situation calms down…

“Race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now,” Obama said, calling for a national conversation on both the progress made since the Civil Rights era and the work as yet to be done.

But once in office, Obama abandoned that conversation for more pressing priorities, from the economy to health care to pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq. His race, he hoped, would be a footnote to his policy agenda. And when he did try to engage in that conversation, he got burned.

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To make matters worse, blacks face additional challenges at home and in the streets. There is a crisis in black fatherhood: while just 29 per cent of whites are born out of wedlock, the figure is 72 per cent for blacks. One result is a racial imbalance in welfare dependency: African-Americans make up about 13 per cent of the population yet 39.8 per cent of those on welfare rolls. Other frightening statistics point to a serious cultural malaise. Four out of five black women are overweight or obese; black women account for nearly 36 per cent of all abortions performed in the United States.

All of this is made worse by a police and judicial system that seems not just imbalanced against blacks but actually designed to put more of them in prison. The War on Drugs and mandatory sentencing has gone hand-in-hand with racial profiling to send large numbers of African-Americans to jail for small infractions: they now account for around 40 per cent of the prison population. For a sense of how, for many blacks, the police are an agency of state repression, consider this alarming fact: in Ferguson, 67 per cent of residents are black but 94 per cent of the local police are white.

Why has electing a black president not changed all of this? One answer is that while Obama is a president who is black, he has never sold himself as an expressly black president – that is, he tries to operate outside of the racial narrative rather than play a leadership role within it. He is evidence to the young black child that, yes, anyone can make it in America.

But what he was never going to be was someone who would confront racism head on or seek a substantial redistribution of power and money of the variety that many civil rights leaders feel is necessary to help the poor.

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To be clear, I didn’t have any unrealistic expectations for Obama. I didn’t expect him to pump a black fist in solidarity or scream “fight the power” from the makeshift press room. I didn’t even need him to take a clear side on the issue. I did, however, expect him to tell the truth. Instead, the President delivered a polite but ultimately dangerous message to the American public…

Obama has also placed the highest priority on remaining calm. While this may seem reasonable on its face, particularly against the backdrop of rioting and looting, his words failed to acknowledge the legitimacy of black anger. Black people die violent deaths way out of proportion to their numbers, sometimes killed by rogue cops and even more often each other. Why would we not be angry?

But unlike black-on-black violence, which is tragic but typically punished through proper legal channels, killings of unarmed young people by law enforcement continue to happen with impunity. Instead of acknowledging the legitimacy of black anger over this, the President simply told us to calm down and stop looting. In doing so, he joined the chorus of far too many politicians and civil rights leaders who understate and trivialize righteous anger in order to show the public that they have “the people” under control.

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The problem is the White House no longer believes Obama can bridge divides. They believe — with good reason — that he widens them. They learned this early in his presidency, when Obama said that the police had “acted stupidly” when they arrested Harvard University professor Skip Gates on the porch of his own home. The backlash was fierce. To defuse it, Obama ended up inviting both Gates and his arresting officer for a “beer summit” at the White House…

Making matters worse, Obama’s presidency has seen a potent merging of the racial and political divides. It’s always been true that views on racial issues drive views on American politics. But as political scientist Michael Tesler has documented, during Obama’s presidency, views on American politics have begun driving views on racially charged issues…

If Obama’s speeches aren’t as dramatic as they used to be, this is why: the White House believes a presidential speech on a politically charged topic is as likely to make things worse as to make things better. It is as likely to infuriate conservatives as it is to inspire liberals. And in a country riven by political polarization, widening that divide can take hard problems and make them impossible problems.

President Obama might still decide to give a speech about events in Ferguson. But it probably won’t be the speech many of his supporters want. When Obama gave the first Race Speech he was a unifying figure trying to win the Democratic nomination. Today he’s a divisive figure who needs to govern the whole country. The White House never forgets that. There probably won’t be another Race Speech because the White House doesn’t believe there can be another Race Speech. For Obama, the cost of becoming president was sacrificing the unique gift that made him president.

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I’m not saying the protests in Ferguson aren’t justified—they are. In fact, we need more protests across the country. Where’s our Kent State? What will it take to mobilize 4 million students in peaceful protest? Because that’s what it will take to evoke actual change. The middle class has to join the poor and whites have to join African-Americans in mass demonstrations, in ousting corrupt politicians, in boycotting exploitative businesses, in passing legislation that promotes economic equality and opportunity, and in punishing those who gamble with our financial future.

Otherwise, all we’re going to get is what we got out of Ferguson: a bunch of politicians and celebrities expressing sympathy and outrage. If we don’t have a specific agenda—a list of exactly what we want to change and how—we will be gathering over and over again beside the dead bodies of our murdered children, parents, and neighbors.

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“I have to be very careful about not prejudging these events.”


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President Obama on Monday lamented the shooting of an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Mo., saying the episode showcased the distrust that minorities in many communities have of their local police officers.

First of all, Barry don’t know shit from shinola. Second of all, I wonder why the local po-po might in turn distrust minorities in “many” communities? It’s like we have a US president as chief community agitator. One grade up from Al Sharpton.

arnold ziffel on August 18, 2014 at 11:13 PM

OMG…sorry but I am sitting here to laughing at Shepherd Smith. What a drama queen as he runs around his studio pointing at the screens ROFMLAO
CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM

It’s High Time you appreciated Shep like I do! ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM

KCB on August 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Hey, Ken! Good to see you!!! How are you doing? How’s the job situation? Haven’t seen you in a long time. Hope that’s been settled for you.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Uh, what? What’s the prosecution rate for black on black violence in Chicago? I don’t know, but I will bet my last dime it’s miserably low…

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I was thinking the same thing. Hi Doc.

KCB on August 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM

At least this mess took Tony Stewart off the Drudge headline.

Who is John Galt on August 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Mmmm..mmmm.mmmm…the natives sure are restless in Ferguson tonight…..and not a one of them has to go to work in the morning, I’ll wager…

bimmcorp on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:03 PM

It’s sad because I am sure the looters don’t speak for those who are just marching to make sure they get the truth. I am sure the most of the people in Ferguson are lovely and they are losing a lot more than a young kid with his whole life in front of him.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

OMG…sorry but I am sitting here to laughing at Shepherd Smith. What a drama queen as he runs around his studio pointing at the screens ROFMLAO

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM

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I would prefer to pour molten lead on my eyes rather than watch Shep Smith.

CNN is only showing the live scene – much less retch inducing.

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Trayvon Martin’s Mom: ‘If They Refuse to Hear Us, We Will Make Them Feel Us’

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I’m so hoping your being busy is a really good thing. I’m doing ok thanks. Good to see you tonight.

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Michael Brown appears to have been a violent, low class thug. It seems Brown went and tried to start a fight with a police officer. Not smart.

Make no mistake: those people rioting and looting are not interested in facts. All they care about is wallowing in their perceived victimhood. Many are entitled, utterly ignorant and obsessed with their skin color. They scream “racism!” yet they are often the biggest racists of all. Those looters and rioters are an embarrassment to this country. They love to whine and complain about how supposedly racist the country is. Well, if they don’t like it, they should leave. And take all the illegal aliens with them.
Seriously, enough is enough.

I am sick of the racial double standard. Many blacks (not all… I suspect a good number are just as sick of this as everyone else but don’t want to be considered a “race traitor” so they stay quiet) blame their inadequacies and lack of success on imagined “racism” instead of just working harder. And everyone else is expected to just nod along and agree, treating them like children and validating the ridiculous overuse of the race card.
Well, I have had enough! Stop blaming the police and white people. Try a little something called studying in school and hard work. Improve yourselves. Quit depending on government to take care of you. Have some self respect. It is a CULTURAL problem. Korean immigrants come here and in one generation their kids are going to MIT… and WITHOUT the help of affirmative action, mind you. Get over your skin color. It’s getting boring already!

Barack Obama, our unqualified affirmative action president, is where he is because of the racial double standard. He was not held to the same standard as others would have been because he is half black. Pathetic.

bluegill on August 18, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Not to mention taking the IRS, VA, GSA, ACA, etc. off the front pages. “Squirrel!”

Too easy, the oligarchs are laughing their behinds off at we plebes.

Who is John Galt on August 18, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Wow. It’s hot in Missouri on an August night…

Darn that global warming…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Twenty some dead and hurt in Chicago, from last weekend alone, and obama and Holder are not near there.

Those kids are just as dead, but it’s not PC to talk about them.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM

They are letting me stay and help pack out the facility and ship it. Still looking. Should be good for about 6 weeks. Thanks for asking!

KCB on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Hi Ken!

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Right Scoop has two live feeds going from Ferguson….

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Holy cow, they are doing live play by play on the demonstrations in Ferguson on Fox.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

The question is does lower IQ lead to higher crime rate? Is that a disgusting question or is it a question that addresses the heart of the matter but the super vast majority of people are afraid to talk about it?…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Thanks! ROFL, it is a very good thing! Glad to have this time to be here.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Amazing. On CNN you got Jack Tapper saying: “we see this array of incredible police forces, in response to the throwing of … bottles.”

As if throwing bottles or water bottles is not dangerous. Insane. Throwing bottles is not non-violent, and before long if that wasn’t stopped then they would be throwing rocks or firebombs and whatelsenot. Non-violent means not throwing stuff at the police. If you did that on the street in a non-riot situation, throwing something at the police, you get a 10 years sentence or more.

anotherJoe on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Good to see a LOT of African-American leaders out on the street trying to talk the crowd into dispersing.

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Cozmo’s buddy just showed up. So it’s off to bed I go!

Judge_Dredd on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I hear you I really do but I’d prefer to give the ratings to Fox. I can’t abide most of the anchors, commentators and pundits on CNN. At least I only have to deal with one really really bad anchor with Fox LOL. But you are right, when he talks I feel like slivers of glass are scorching my eyes…..ask Newtie!

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Twenty some dead and hurt in Chicago, from last weekend alone, and obama and Holder are not near there.

Those kids are just as dead, but it’s not PC to talk about them.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

^This. Reveals the agenda of Zero and crew.

Who is John Galt on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

“BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!”

– Richard Pryor

williamg on August 18, 2014 at 11:20 PM

All of this is made worse by a police and judicial system that seems not just imbalanced against blacks but actually designed to put more of them in prison. The War on Drugs and mandatory sentencing has gone hand-in-hand with racial profiling to send large numbers of African-Americans to jail for small infractions: they now account for around 40 per cent of the prison population. For a sense of how, for many blacks, the police are an agency of state repression, consider this alarming fact: in Ferguson, 67 per cent of residents are black but 94 per cent of the local police are white.

Tell me how a group that does virtually nothing to avail itself of the K-12 educational opportunities that its children actually do have is going to improve on these numbers. I’ll start rending my garments over these bits of information, when the black community finally makes an effort to purge throughout the nation the incomprehensible notion that working hard to do well in school is something to be scorned as “acting white.” Good luck with those employment prospects when you can’t spell, write a grammatical sentence, compose a logical paragraph, provide a coherent explanation, correctly perform basic mathematical tasks, and actually function in the 21st century aside from learning how to use your Obamaphone.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 11:20 PM

OBAMA HATES ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND WANTS THEM DEAD!!!!!!

williamg on August 18, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Wow. It’s hot in Missouri on an August night…

Darn that global warming…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Warm and humid here tonight. As soon as the weather forecast is over i’m going to bed. Humidity is bad for the joints. At least it’s supposed to be warm for a few days. It could be 90 on Sunday.

crankyoldlady on August 18, 2014 at 11:22 PM

The question is does lower IQ lead to higher crime rate? Is that a disgusting question or is it a question that addresses the heart of the matter but the super vast majority of people are afraid to talk about it?…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Might have some impact, but, I think the far greater influence is indoctrination with a self righteous I’m a victim and you owe me something attitude. I’ve met some otherwise pretty smart folks who thought this way. And I’ve met some below average Joe’s who had their head on much straighter than these rioting clowns…

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Tell me how a group that does virtually nothing to avail itself of the K-12 educational opportunities that its children actually do have is going to improve on these numbers. I’ll start rending my garments over these bits of information, when the black community finally makes an effort to purge throughout the nation the incomprehensible notion that working hard to do well in school is something to be scorned as “acting white.” Good luck with those employment prospects when you can’t spell, write a grammatical sentence, compose a logical paragraph, provide a coherent explanation, correctly perform basic mathematical tasks, and actually function in the 21st century aside from learning how to use your Obamaphone.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 11:20 PM

It is never going to happen… The financial slavery of the welfare is so powerful and the main problem is that the financially enslave loves being financially enslaved… There is no hope for the vast majority of blacks in America because they chose the road of financial serfdom of the welfare state…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

KCB on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I’m glad lineholder asked and you gave us the 411. I was trying to figure out how to ask! lol

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Judge_Dredd on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Who is cosmo’s buddy?

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Might have some impact, but, I think the far greater influence is indoctrination with a self righteous I’m a victim and you owe me something attitude. I’ve met some otherwise pretty smart folks who thought this way. And I’ve met some below average Joe’s who had their head on much straighter than these rioting clowns…

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

You may have seen exceptions… I am talking about a group of people with an average IQ below the national average IQ…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Holy cow, they are doing live play by play on the demonstrations in Ferguson on Fox.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I’ll bet it’s “illegal procedure” every time a flatscreen is “snapped”….

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Cozmo’s buddy just showed up. So it’s off to bed I go!
Judge_Dredd on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Niters and sleep well, Judge!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:26 PM

“In too many communities, too many young men of color are left behind and seen only as objects of fear.”…

And yet it seems many young blacks go out of their way to intimidate and antagonize whites.

claudius on August 18, 2014 at 11:26 PM

I’m glad lineholder asked and you gave us the 411. I was trying to figure out how to ask! lol

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Smooches for you both! I haven’t been commenting much, but I have been lurking.

KCB on August 18, 2014 at 11:27 PM

The question is does lower IQ lead to higher crime rate? Is that a disgusting question or is it a question that addresses the heart of the matter but the super vast majority of people are afraid to talk about it?…
mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I think it has more to do with culture. Now, it might be impossible to totally separate genetic differences on a macro level from particular cultural characteristics, but remember that blacks who grow up in two-parent homes are no more likely to be criminals than similarly raised whites. I read that somewhere.

bluegill on August 18, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Amazing. On CNN you got Jack Tapper saying: “we see this array of incredible police forces, in response to the throwing of … bottles.”

anotherJoe on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Jake, you ever get a rock, bottle or socked upside your stupid fkn head? Kind of tired of people who never been in nasty fights having vapors.

arnold ziffel on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

President Obama on Monday lamented the shooting of an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Mo.,

Lies. Clearly this thug had arms, I saw them in the store video.

Diluculo on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

ol’ Shep is upset there isn’t any action going on while he is on.

Barred on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Nite street judge.

Hi lineholder, and welcome back.

Evening HA

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Hey, Doc! How are you?

Remember that conversation we had about a database populated with patient education tools? Got one part of it finished…for PQRS measures.

Lot more to it than I thought there would be, but it’s going well so far.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

But you are right, when (Shep) talks I feel like slivers of glass are scorching my eyes…..ask Newtie!
CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Hear! Hear! CL can’t even abide Shep as eye candy… o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Retweeted by Noah Rothman
Jim Roberts ‏@nycjim 19m

Chris Hayes getting pelted with rocks during live report on MSNBC. “We’re alright.” #Ferguson

Sorry, not sure why, this visual made me laugh.

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

To be fair, State Police Captain Jones was getting the front line of the police to back up, lower weapons.

And someone figured out the guys on top of the armored cars were going to be more effective with binoculars than a rifle scope.

[Shep Smith's LIES while "covering" Katrina are the reason I detest him]

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:29 PM

You may have seen exceptions… I am talking about a group of people with an average IQ below the national average IQ…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 PM

True, but I still maintain that the problems are more learned than inborn. If all you’ve ever learned is that the world owes you something and they’re withholding it from you for reason X, then you’re going to be more of a self righteous victim type than if you learned the world is has bumps and furrows but is generally neutral towards you, no matter what your IQ. And that applies to entire groups as well, especially if you have group leaders who rely on that kind of thinking to perpetuate their own power…

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:29 PM

What is the point of this gathering? They can behave themselves for 15 minutes? You know the Ferguson police are going to drop some more info regarding MikeMike before Holder comes to town..like fingerprints on the officer’s car and gun…or the levels of THC in the Angel’s blood or whatever to incriminate him more…and the crowd will freak out once again as they see their justification for lynching Wilson crumble.

gracie on August 18, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Hi, Schad! Thanks.

How are you, warrior of all warriors?

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Sorry, not sure why, this visual made me laugh.

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM
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Perhaps because, like me, you’re thinking the rocks being thrown are specifically targeted AT Chris Hayes?

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM

but remember that blacks who grow up in two-parent homes are no more likely to be criminals than similarly raised whites. I read that somewhere.

bluegill on August 18, 2014 at 11:27 PM

True but the question is do the two black parents having higher than the average IQ of the black community and hence their children have higher IQ and hence tend to commit lower crimes? I know that questions like this scare people away for well know reason but in my opinion we should not ignore this basic fact…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

“In too many communities around the country, the gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement,” Obama said

I purchased 2 different rifles from a local cop. One being what they call an assault rifle, but it isn’t really. I trust that cop, and I’m pretty sure if he didn’t trust me I wouldn’t be owning these rifles.

It’s nice to be friendly, some of the racist trolls oughta try it sometime.

Diluculo on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Hey, Doc! How are you?

Remember that conversation we had about a database populated with patient education tools? Got one part of it finished…for PQRS measures.

Lot more to it than I thought there would be, but it’s going well so far.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Howdy! And welcome back. I’m fine, just tired–today is 4/5. I saw 52 today, ugh. Congrats on the database–and yes, there’s always more to a big project like that than one expects!

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

And yet it seems many young blacks go out of their way to intimidate and antagonize whites.

claudius on August 18, 2014 at 11:26 PM

It extra credit for their Studies courses…..

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Warm and humid here tonight. As soon as the weather forecast is over i’m going to bed. Humidity is bad for the joints. At least it’s supposed to be warm for a few days. It could be 90 on Sunday.
crankyoldlady on August 18, 2014 at 11:22 PM

COL, hang in there, Darlin’…cooler temps and lower humidities will be here before you know it… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

52!!! That number is pretty high, isn’t it? Are y’all short staffed or something? Or is that normal for your facility?

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Maybe the media might want to try not covering this story. I’d bet the protest would stop. You can probably walk around Tehran without hearing “death to America”. I could be wrong though, because much of the protest actually looks like one big party. I hear my dead German father saying ” look at all the wasted hours that could be spent working” and that’s for everyone involved

rik on August 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM

There is no hope for the vast majority of blacks in America because they chose the road of financial serfdom of the welfare state…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Wait until it goes broke, and EBT fails….less that two years we have, less than two years until history catches up with us. Then Hillary…we’re scroomed.

Who is John Galt on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

What is the point of this gathering? They can behave themselves for 15 minutes? You know the Ferguson police are going to drop some more info regarding MikeMike before Holder comes to town..like fingerprints on the officer’s car and gun…or the levels of THC in the Angel’s blood or whatever to incriminate him more…and the crowd will freak out once again as they see their justification for lynching Wilson crumble.

gracie on August 18, 2014 at 11:29 PM

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CNN is reporting Malik Shabazz and his followers are trying to get the black community to agree the to a 5 day moratorium on protests/marches after dark.

Also reporting the two people arrested a brief while back were throwing bottles at the police and the crowd singled them out and asked the police to arrest them – they are apparently part of a Communist group from Illinois.

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Sorry, not sure why, this visual made me laugh.
Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I’m flabbergasted. Chris Hayes has viewers in Ferguson?? o_O

So chucklin’… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

So if the protesters throw rocks they’re okay but if the police detain them for ten minutes they go on camera a cry like a little girl. Touching.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Just Walk Away………………..

williamg on August 18, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Retweeted by Noah Rothman
Jim Roberts ‏@nycjim 19m

Chris Hayes getting pelted with rocks during live report on MSNBC. “We’re alright.” #Ferguson

What? They dislike the po-po as well as lesbians?

arnold ziffel on August 18, 2014 at 11:36 PM

52!!! That number is pretty high, isn’t it? Are y’all short staffed or something? Or is that normal for your facility?

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Hahahaa!

Short staffed? No. I am a hospitalist. And I have a Nurse practitioner with me. We average about 40 a day, but we had an extraordinarily busy night–I got 18 admissions–normal is <10. And some of the 52 are not acute–they are on Rehab, or psych, and we are just consultants, rather than attending. Never the less, it was a wildly busy day.

Most hospitalists see in the 20's–we are quite busy.

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I caught about five minutes of Sharpton at that revival he held yesterday. It was confounding to hear him complain about the money used to militarize the police–money he said should be used by the government “for jobs.” It was unbelievable. The crowd went berserk, but it was a crowd that invariably consisted of far too many people who have virtually no entrepreneurial ability and no skills to offer an employer. Race-hustler Sharpton advocates the same failed WPA and PWA prescriptions as FDR. I will say, I’d like some think tank to tease out the idea of creating a poverty CCC program in which churches or some other groups could nominate teenagers to leave home for a summer to work in ag areas and other places for private employers. Private employers, but interpose a lawyer of discipline provided by retired veterans or such with educational opportunities in the evening and weekends. Isolate the kids: no TV, no phones, little free time, and immediate termination for the slightest infraction. Create a nice incentive compensation package for the kid, family, sponsoring organization. Just a thought.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

It would be interesting to get an idea of how many of the looter in Ferguson are from away, wouldn’t it? And how many of the locals are there to keep the situation from getting out of hand.

Community of that size can’t afford to lose a lot of businesses.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM

CNN is reporting Malik Shabazz and his followers are trying to get the black community to agree the to a 5 day moratorium on protests/marches after dark.
Also reporting the two people arrested a brief while back were throwing bottles at the police and the crowd singled them out and asked the police to arrest them – they are apparently part of a Communist group from Illinois.
PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

They unleashed the genie and now they want the genie back in the bottle? Toothpaste meet tube…

A commie group from IL has infiltrated…imagine that…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM

You may have seen exceptions… I am talking about a group of people with an average IQ below the national average IQ…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 PM

People I know seem to have well above average IQs, so it makes me wonder, who are those with the 85 IQs. I understand an 85 IQ means you get maybe three correct answers out of a test of 50 or more questions. A near total ignorance of anything related to reading, writing, or arithmetic.

Education is the key. You look at Ben Carson, who was a poor student, whose mother was on welfare, illiterate herself. He went to a mostly white public school and the other students made fun of him for being stupid. Then his mother forced him to read books from the library and write book reports on them which he was to turn into his mother (who, remember, was illiterate). Now Ben Carson is educated, and that made all the difference. No one puts him down because he’s black. In fact, I’d venture to say whites (myself included) want to see blacks do well. So this idea that whites want to keep blacks down is bullshit.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I think I just saw Malik Shabazz on one of the live feeds…he had a bullhorn calming people down and asking to move to the sidewalk. Has he turned into a civil rights leader?

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Also reporting the two people arrested a brief while back were throwing bottles at the police and the crowd singled them out and asked the police to arrest them – they are apparently part of a Communist group from Illinois.

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Yep, at this point, I wonder what percent of the trouble makers are professional troublemakers from elsewhere–that’s an under-reported angle.

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

The police are picking people out of the crowd and arresting them…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:39 PM

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Welcome back to our Long Lost Members!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:40 PM

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Yes. It just struck me as funny. No pun intended. Now that I reflect on it a bit more, it might just be the pajama boy aspect that is funny. Rocks being thrown at him aren’t funny, right?

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Help is on the way

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Sorry, not sure why, this visual made me laugh.
Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I’m flabbergasted. Chris Hayes has viewers in Ferguson?? o_O

So chucklin’… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Truth be told, the crowd thought they were chucking the rocks at his brother Ray Maddow.

RickB on August 18, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Doc Holliday on August 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM

LOL. Well, as long as you have your NP and you aren’t TOO overworked, then it’s okay, right?

I worked at an ER many years ago, and they actually had a non-emergent section that handled the simpler cases. Stopped doing it about a 15 years ago. Never understood why…unless free-standing urgent care centers ate away their market. Seemed like a good idea to me.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

True but the question is do the two black parents having higher than the average IQ of the black community and hence their children have higher IQ and hence tend to commit lower crimes? I know that questions like this scare people away for well know reason but in my opinion we should not ignore this basic fact…
mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Perhaps. Consider this: there was almost no looting whatsoever after the tsunami hit Japan a few years ago.

Compare that with this:
http://youtu.be/3RVHDlPqZWE

bluegill on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I think I just saw Malik Shabazz on one of the live feeds…he had a bullhorn calming people down and asking to move to the sidewalk. Has he turned into a civil rights leader?
d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Their narrative is in shreds and the press coverage hasn’t exactly been, shall we say, positive…

This should disperse soon, and the *ahem!* protestors will find another “cause” to exploit…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

The police are picking people out of the crowd and arresting them…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:39 PM

For outstanding warrants?

Maybe some good will come out of the gathering after all…

viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

From Ace –

Protesters Throw Rocks at MSNBC’s Chris Hayes
As Drew said: Second look at rioting?

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

BMore

/Schad

SpongePuppy on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

In too many communities around the country, the gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement. In too many communities, too many young men of color are left behind and seen only as objects of fear.

Given what I saw Big Mike do in the videos, I’d consider him a person to fear too. And those who “support” him by looting, burning, and vandalising, and those who express support for the aforementioned behaviors and who think the police are the enemy — I fear you too.

What part of “be good” do you guys not understand?

unclesmrgol on August 18, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Schad

/BMore

SpongePuppy on August 18, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Shepard Smith is on FNC dying–DYING–to be in a position to broadcast a Bull Connor firehose-and-dogs moment.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Rocks being thrown at him aren’t funny, right?

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 11:40 PM

.
It’s like I tell my kids when they pick on me …

“It’s not nice to pick on the handicapped … it’s funny … but it’s not nice.”

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:43 PM

The police are picking people out of the crowd and arresting them…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:39 PM

What are the crowds doing at this time of night?

unclesmrgol on August 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM

lineholder, I’m just watching the insanity. I miss civilization and culture.

The Land of Laws is out the windows.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Fox guy calling the police amateurs, gee, maybe if there wasn’t an audience these folks would stop.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM

For outstanding warrants?
Maybe some good will come out of the gathering after all…
viking01 on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I was thinking this would be a good time to field test some facial recognition software with the Outstanding Warrants Database… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 11:45 PM

SP, get busy conjuring. The music is missing.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:45 PM

In fact, I’d venture to say whites (myself included) want to see blacks do well. So this idea that whites want to keep blacks down is bullshit.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Myself also. If they do well, we all benefit. I don’t see whites making fun of blacks for trying to get an education. Wonder which group often does that?

arnold ziffel on August 18, 2014 at 11:45 PM

I think I just saw Malik Shabazz on one of the live feeds…he had a bullhorn calming people down and asking to move to the sidewalk. Has he turned into a civil rights leader?

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Certainly not a policeman — if a policeman had a bullhorn and was asking people to move to the sidewalk, he’d be — well, just ask Big Mike.

unclesmrgol on August 18, 2014 at 11:45 PM

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I am certain that Ben Carson has a genetic IQ over 130 or else it would have been impossible for him to become a neurosurgeon… Regarding the average IQ of 85 among blacks it has been proven through decades of testing…

mnjg on August 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM

CNN is reporting Malik Shabazz and his followers are trying to get the black community to agree the to a 5 day moratorium on protests/marches after dark.

Also reporting the two people arrested a brief while back were throwing bottles at the police and the crowd singled them out and asked the police to arrest them – they are apparently part of a Communist group from Illinois.

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I can’t post the link to this because HotAir considers it a “bad” website:

Even more intriguing is the involvement of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, which has inserted itself into the investigation of Brown’s death at the behest of Attorney General Eric Holder.

The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has proven sympathetic to the New Black Panthers in the past. In 2010, a whistleblower who worked with the Civil Rights Division blasted the DOJ for dismissing its case against the New Black Panther Party after members of the group intimidated voters outside a Philadelphia polling location during the 2008 presidential election.

The New Black Panther party is not a successor to the original Black Panther Party. Members of the original organization have repeatedly distanced themselves from the new group and have insisted it is “illegitimate.”

New Black Panther radicals have been joined in Missouri by Revolution Club Chicago, a Communist group that calls for a global revolution in order to bring down capitalism. Respondents to the group’s Facebook page aren’t buying the rhetoric, accusing the organization of being, “Communist agitators seeking to incite a race war in Ferguson.”

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Protesters Throw Rocks at MSNBC’s Chris Hayes
As Drew said: Second look at rioting?

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM


LOL!
Thanks for sharing that one, Cindy!

PolAgnostic on August 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 11:43 PM

exactly, he’s so weird esp with bear sightings and police chases….

CoffeeLover on August 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM

It is such a sad thing to see, isn’t it?

I miss respect for rule of law, when people acted with dignity.

Those days are so gone now.

lineholder on August 18, 2014 at 11:47 PM

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