Open thread: Semi-retired president forced to say something about Ferguson again

posted at 3:55 pm on August 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

He’s scheduled to speak at 4 p.m. ET, just as this post is going live. The poor guy: All he wants to talk about is amnesty, impeachment, and corporate “inversions,” and those darned looters keep throwing him off-message.

A clever take on the national mood:

He’s actually not on vacation today but back at the White House for a previously scheduled briefing on Iraq and a hastily scheduled briefing by Holder on the Michael Brown case. I doubt there’ll be much news here: He’ll cast a vote of confidence in Holder’s decision to conduct a DOJ autopsy on Brown’s body and he’ll say something vague but positive-sounding about Jay Nixon’s decision to call out the National Guard, even though that sort of undercuts the anti-militarization point made by police critics lately. And there’ll be the usual on-the-one-hand demand for protesters to act peacefully with the on-the-other-hand demand for the police to use no excessive force. This is still worth watching, though, as the longer the Ferguson drama goes on, the farther Obama will need to stretch to satisfy disparate constituencies. Some black commentators, like Michael Eric “Holder is the new Moses” Dyson, are starting to grumble that O’s been too quiet about how the police treat black men. Other people, media figures among them, are getting fidgety that looting’s still happening more than a week after Brown was killed. Good luck on the tightrope, champ. Don’t look down!

He’ll also say a few words about airstrikes against ISIS, of which there have already been 68 and counting. The next time someone tells you that Republicans reflexively oppose everything O does, show them this poll from Pew. Democrats support the airstrikes 54/35; Republicans support them 71/14. While we wait, for those who haven’t heard it yet, here’s the audio of Dana Loesch’s chat on Friday with “Josie,” a woman purporting to be a friend of the cop who shot and killed Michael Brown and relaying his account of what happened. People are sending me links to Don Lemon talking about this on air today, as if somehow we’re first hearing of “Josie” only now and CNN had discovered her. Not so. Loesch had this posted three days ago. If you don’t have time for the clip, here’s a quickie transcript.


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Lol, the “vast majority” of protesters are “peaceful.”

Shame on that media for focusing on just a “small minority.”

Happens automatically every time his mug shows up on the screen. It’s the damnedest thing. Used to happen with Monica Lewinsky’s boyfriend, too.

Rational Thought on August 18, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Took me a few seconds to get that. xD

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Ours is a nation of laws.
Yeah, he can say that with a straight face.
Border, b!tch.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Wasn’t there a federal investI gating for trayvon and they came up with bupkis?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

“No excuse for excessive force by police”

What an ass.

faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Has he axed the rioters why they be hatin’ yet???

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Amendment 1 – Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Once again, the *ahem!* Constitutional Scholar-in-Chief gets it wrong…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Obama talking about anything to do with “my brother’s keeper” (government program or otherwise) is like Colonel Sanders announcing he’s joining PETA.

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

it’s everybody’s fault that Mike Brown was killed, what evs

DanMan on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Wow! This guy can’t speak about any issue he has no interest about without the teleprompter or notes…but he sure can talk off the cuff about crap he is interested in.

I’m goin out for a smoke…

OldWeaselKeeper on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

A few years back there was a story about a lady selling her TV: Obama’s on every channel!

Heh.

Galtian on August 18, 2014 at 4:33 PM

When I was a kid, we had only 3 channels on the TV (before cable came to our area) and Jimmy Carter would be on EVERY CHANNEL.

Depressing.

ConstantineXI on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I’m tired of listening.
I’m done.
Don’t care anymore. The narrative gets repeated and dragged out every single effing time.
It will never be enough.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Wasn’t there a federal investI gating for trayvon and they came up with bupkis?
cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Yep…and Zimmerman was an altar boy compared to Michael Brown…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

If he had a son, he’d look like Michael Brown, and then Moochelle would make him go on her nutrition program.

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

American police officers kill about 400 people every year, most of them white. And oddly enough, most of the families of the deceased decline to incite riots.

RBMN on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Obama is increasingly irrelevant. He fiddles as the world burns around him.

~~

Dyson is concerned about cops beating black men? But not about the high rate of violent crimes committed by black men 16-40?

Hmmm.

Adjoran on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Well I have it on mute. No captions though. Even the written words are too much for me.

Barred on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Thanks newtie

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

What an ass.

faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

+1000

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Don’t blame me re: national guard

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

It’s HIS fault! I just heard about it in the papers.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Has he axed the rioters why they be hatin’ yet???

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Heh!

bernzright777 on August 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM

As one narrative after another falls apart, their strategery is to go with the “excessive force” argument — yes, the kid had just committed a strong-armed robbery, and yes, he was high, and yes, he charged the cop and landed inside the cruiser with him, and yes, he kept charging at the cop, and no, he wasn’t shot in the back, but it was excessive force.

Rational Thought on August 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Thanks newtie
cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

You’re Most Welcome, CMS!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Dyson is concerned about cops beating black men? But not about the high rate of violent crimes committed by black men 16-40?

Hmmm.

Adjoran on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Shh, don’t let the cat out of the bag. Race hustlers need to keep peddling the racism narrative in order to stay in business.

Well I have it on mute. No captions though. Even the written words are too much for me.

Barred on August 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Fair enough. :)

Aizen on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

My default position is to hate Holder, but on this case…I am completely in agreement with a federal civil rights and criminal investigation of Darren Wilson. He is a murderer, and since the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Done, ears stated to bleed.

bernzright777 on August 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

As one narrative after another falls apart, their strategery is to go with the “excessive force” argument — yes, the kid had just committed a strong-armed robbery, and yes, he was high, and yes, he charged the cop and landed inside the cruiser with him, and yes, he kept charging at the cop, and no, he wasn’t shot in the back, but it was excessive force.
Rational Thought on August 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

You forgot to include “he punched the cop”…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

ISIL must be ‘contained’

faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

You know, I see where Captain Ron Johnson gets his leadership skills.
School of King Putt.
Let’s talk. While the world burns.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Eric Holder is in Contempt of Congress as we speak….

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:42 PM

My default position is to hate Holder, but on this case…I am completely in agreement with a federal civil rights and criminal investigation of Darren Wilson. He is a murderer, and since the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.
Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Patrolman Wilson was assaulted by Brown and Brown was on his way back, presumably to give Wilson more of same. Wilson also had a stellar record.

Please explain to us how Brown’s civil rights were violated and Wilson’s were not.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:43 PM

And Dear Leader drones on….

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Please explain to us how Brown’s civil rights were violated and Wilson’s were not.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Wilson was white. And failed to “check his privilege”.

ConstantineXI on August 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM

the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Let’s walk this Mensa thinking through.

He says Ferguson/St Louis Cty is not investigating!

He wants the DOJ to investigate.

But, before the investigation begins, the cop is guilty of Policing While White and should be executed.

faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Ann Compton, everybody…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I can’t wait until Jan 2017. He makes me sicker with each speech

More divisive every year. I refuse to listen to him again

Redford on August 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

My default position is to hate Holder, but on this case…I am completely in agreement with a federal civil rights and criminal investigation of Darren Wilson. He is a murderer, and since the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

The circle of ignorance is now complete. If you’re going to allow an investigation to be completed, you’re going to have to leave your bias at the door, Racist Rock.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

And there’s the shout-out… <—insert eye-roll here

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Ugharoo newtie

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Did you stop the riots yet, daddy?

Galtian on August 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Dear Leader divulged the fact that he really likes Ann Compton and just recently had the pleasure of hugging her grand baby….then, what’s your question Ann?
Ann Compton: Mr. President, how did you get so cool?

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

But, before the investigation begins, the cop is guilty of Policing While White and should be executed.
faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM

chudi might be French…you know, guilty until proven innocent and all that…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

“I have to be careful not to prejudge…”

Said with a straight face…

Drained Brain on August 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

And there’s the shout-out… <—insert eye-roll here

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

It’s not like he has anything better to do.

RBMN on August 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM

D1C
Aye carumba

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Totally understand. He just dissed law enforcement again. My blood would be at the boiling point were I you.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

My default position is to hate Holder, but on this case…I am completely in agreement with a federal civil rights and criminal investigation of Darren Wilson. He is a murderer, and since the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Your default position is to find the cop guilty, punish him, and then hold a trial.

Perfect! The Pol Pot School of Legal Stuff obviously had a great deal on degrees when you applied.

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

I’m late. What has he said so far?

faraway on August 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Wait till the 5 O’clock news. It will have morphed into the Gettysburg Address.

Cleombrotus on August 18, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

You’re late… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Why can’t Barry go to Ferguson and give one of his speeches? Wouldn’t that calm the situation down? Why won’t he do that?

President George W. Bush just HAD to visit Katrina. Why doesn’t Barry have to visit Ferguson?

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM

I’m never late, always first.

Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Holder en route to Ferguson to stir ‘dat racial pot…..

Ris4victory on August 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM

No tie, golf shirt and shorts….j/k

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM

No way. I can’t stand watching him, but I’ll have to look with the mute on.

talkingpoints on August 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

You know, there are choices you make in life.
Get an education or steal and get high?
Be responsible or get pregnant out of wedlock at a young age?
Take that entry level job or tell your friends you’re too good for that and go on welfare?
Get a girl pregnant and take responsibility or leave her and make more baby mamas?
Follow the law or break it and get a record?

I’m tired of the excuses. Again, ask Justice Thomas, Condi Rice, and Allan West how they did it. Then, follow their lead.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Young black men commit crime and if they do, they need to be prosecuted….

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I’m never late, always first.
Bishop on August 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Oh, well, in that case…astute observation. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Same reason he steers clear of acknowledging what’s going on every single weekend in Chicago.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Where’s canopfor?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Smooth as icing, and deep too.

onomo on August 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Young black men commit crimes? Obviously the President is a racist!

rbj on August 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM

He alone has passed laws that have helped curb law enforcement’s past in over prosecutions….

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Young black men commit crimes? Obviously the President is a racist!

rbj on August 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM

He called the chaos-makers in Iraq ‘savages’.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Of course he has d1carter

SMH

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

just kidding…..

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:55 PM

It’s a wonder why the men who hold the line think their leaders are failing them.
Eat it, you commie azzhat.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 4:55 PM

:) D1C

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Has he shared the location of the new national monument to be built to Saint Mike Brown the Ventilated?

stvnscott on August 18, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Has he said anything actually helpful like, “Don’t do drugs, don’t steal, don’t attack cops, don’t lie abut what happened, don’t loot” yet?

talkingpoints on August 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM

You know what was missing from this presser….no one was acting stupidly.

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Was it me or did POUTS just say that a small minority in Ferguson were acting stupidly?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

My default position is to hate Holder, but on this case…I am completely in agreement with a federal civil rights and criminal investigation of Darren Wilson. He is a murderer, and since the city of Ferguson and St. Louis do not want to investigate this case, I don’t mind Justice doing the investigation. That guy does not deserve to be a cop and deserves to be in jail.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Based on what evidence is he a murderer??

He shot a thug who had just robbed a store. The thug was huge and had beat the cop in the face and attempted to steal his gun. Sounds perfectly reasonable to kill the SOB to me.

You sure are stupid. A new troll unleashed.

txdoc on August 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Has he shared the location of the new national monument to be built to Saint Mike Brown the Ventilated?

stvnscott on August 18, 2014 at 4:55 PM

It’ll be a giant MD-20 bottle with a Swisher stuffed in the top.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

15 shot over an 8-hour period in New York — nary a word about that, right???

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Will he stay in town tonight…? You know taking a break from the family life..?

d1carter on August 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Boy, is he pissed!

On the “My brother’s keeper” program – dude, it starts with taking care of your very own brother/s and family, duhhhhh.

Your own brother lives in a carton hut. Wake up already.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Why does he call them ISIL?

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Too bad he and Holder didn’t care about all those black babies killed by Dr. Gosnell, or the black women he maimed and scarred.

rockmom on August 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Indeed rockmom

cmsinaz on August 18, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Why does he call them ISIL?
Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Because ISIL frowns upon being called ISIS.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 18, 2014 at 5:01 PM

You know FNC is talking about how passionately the filthy lazy stupid rat-eared bastard talked about race issues. Where was that passion when he represented Chicago and blacks are killed by blacks by the dozens any given year?

Happy Nomad on August 18, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Tonight’s party in Ferguson should be interesting now that The Won has spoken.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Heh.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Why does he call them ISIL?

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

He thinks it makes him look smart and engaged…. I’d bet he has no clue as to where the Levant is….

Athos on August 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Has he axed the rioters why they be hatin’ yet???

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM

+100

It’s like pulling teeth to get Obama to acknowledge any reality that goes against his own narrative about how blacks are historically oppressed. Here are those acknowledgements:

– Some young black men do commit crimes (really!)
– A very small minority of the protesters loot and riot
– We are a nation of laws (how THAT must have stuck in his craw to say)

What he DIDN’T do is to appeal to his fellow black men who are rioting and looting to STOP IT. Young black men need a role model who engages them, and that sure ain’t Obama.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 5:05 PM

He’s scheduled to speak at 4 p.m. ET, just as this post is going live.

His pissed off Highness was only a half hour late.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Why does he call them ISIL?

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

He thinks it makes him look smart and engaged…. I’d bet he has no clue as to where the Levant is….

Athos on August 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Pok-ee-ston.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Crap! You mean I missed it?!?! I was really looking forward to it.

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Oakland – Ferguson – Gaza Unite!!!

^^ A sign held by a protester in Ferguson.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 19m

“There are young black men who commit crime.” – Obama.

Did 0 really say that?

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Did he say if he had a son he would be like Michael Brown?

Now that I could believe, a robber and thug.

txdoc on August 18, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Bump, from Bmore

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 19m

“There are young black men who commit crime.” – Obama.

Did 0 really say that?

Bmore on August 18, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Yeah, but he fully understands WHY they do it, and we need to address that, with lots of other people’s money.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM

The jerk actually said poverty was a cause of crime.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Did you stop the looting yet, daddy?

Galtian on August 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Cash for clunkers was the perfectly aptly named program for anything this oaf touches.

My brother’s keeper is the 2nd best named program.

The ironies couldn’t be invented in the best/worst of fiction.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 5:15 PM

People are sending me links to Don Lemon talking about this on air today, as if somehow we’re first hearing of “Josie” only now and CNN had discovered her. Not so. Loesch had this posted three days ago. If you don’t have time for the clip, here’s a quickie transcript.

If Josie is white, she must be lying, and Michael Brown was shot in the back by magic bullets that didn’t leave a skin wound.

Gentle giant Michael Brown was only trying to take the cop’s gun to prevent the cop from shooting him. He only borrowed the cigars to deliver them to Bill Clinton on a blind date.

In other news, three eyewitnesses to Michael Brown’s shooting reported a winged sow over the arch in Saint Louis.

Steve Z on August 18, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Yeah, but he fully understands WHY they do it, and we need to address that, with lots of other people’s money.

LashRambo on August 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM

He said ‘we’ve allocated considerable resources’ to the racism
situation in Ferguson.

See, Ferguson? This is why you can’t have nice things. All that tear gas costs money.

WhirledPeas on August 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Based on what evidence is he a murderer??

He shot a thug who had just robbed a store. The thug was huge and had beat the cop in the face and attempted to steal his gun. Sounds perfectly reasonable to kill the SOB to me.

You sure are stupid. A new troll unleashed.

txdoc on August 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

You on the other hand are not biased and completely reasonable. However you are taking everything the cop said as the truth. Of course, this murderer who just shot a kid more than 6 times has no reason to lie…has no reason to tell events in a way to justify his crime.

Darren Wilson is a murderer, and no matter how much it pisses you guys off, he will pay for this crime. First off, he will never work as a cop again ever in his life and rightly so, because doesn’t deserve to be one. He will also go to jail for a very long time, and the family will sue his murdering asss, and he will be held civilly liable. Even after he leaves jail, he will have to work for the rest of his life to pay off that civil judgement. That’s if he’s able to get another job, because I doubt many companies will hire a known murderer.

He knows he screwed up, and if he didn’t know before, I bet he does now.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Obama: The police in Ferguson acted stupidly.

Steve Z on August 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM

The key to watch for is if the President goes back up to MV!

As i understand it, this trip had a return to DC in the middle scheduled. I may be wrong and don’t feel like tracking it down.

But if as I recall, this was a scheduled return to the WH prior to Obama’s August at Leisure being finished, then he should at some point go back up to martha’s vineyard. the house is rented through August.

I double dog dare Obama to leave town a second time. And because he is such a narcissist creepo, I bet hes desperately looking for a way.

Sacramento on August 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM

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