Another eyewitness: Woman comes forward with footage taken immediately after the Michael Brown shooting

posted at 6:41 pm on August 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, maybe there’s more out there but this is just the second clip I’ve seen of the crime scene and the first that (allegedly) includes footage of Darren Wilson, the cop who fired the shots that killed Brown. That’s him on the right in the clip below according to the eyewitness, Piaget Crenshaw.

Crenshaw’s account of what happened starts at around 3:00. She’s right in line with the other three eyewitnesses on Brown’s general movements: He ran from Wilson initially, Wilson fired at him, then Brown turned back to face him. Crenshaw thinks the shots fired at Brown while he was running away either missed him entirely or grazed him, which corroborates the autopsy report showing no entry wounds from the back. The truly interesting part here is what she says she saw when Wilson first pulled up alongside Brown and Dorian Johnson. Johnson has claimed that Wilson grabbed Brown from inside the vehicle — specifically, he says, he grabbed Brown’s neck, which would seem hard to do to a man who’s 6’4″ from a sitting position. Crenshaw says she too saw Wilson grab Brown, although she doesn’t say where specifically. Wilson then seemed to get “upset,” says Crenshaw, Brown took off, and Wilson took off after him.

Turns out this isn’t the first interview Crenshaw gave about the shooting, though. The first one happened right after Brown was killed; it’s the second clip below. She seems vaguer in the earlier video about what happened in the first few moments between Brown and Wilson. At around 0:30, she says they had some kind of “interaction” but says she didn’t see any sort of chokehold, as another witness had claimed, because she was getting ready for work. On the other hand, she’s quite clear that she saw Brown with his hands up while he was facing Wilson, after the bullets started flying. She thinks Brown raised his hands before the final two shots, which would mean per the autopsy report that he’d already been hit four times by then. Hmmm.


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Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

specifically, he says, he grabbed Brown’s neck, which would seem hard to do to a man who’s 6’4″ from a sitting position.

The officer has some wingspan.

/

CW on August 18, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Mm, I wonder how *much* the videos were shopped for…

Not that it changes the importance of having it, but it’s going to be interesting to see the gymnastics that will entail as this goes on.

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Oh goody, a thread for idiot trolls.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM

They’ve already got the police tape up. It can’t be “right after” the shooting. You know what, you have these “community” members with testimony that suggests the police officer was shooting a man with his hands up. Insane. My earlier comment:

Here we have a 6′ 4″ 300 pound football player that only 10 minutes before had robbed a convenience store with just his bare hands. And the guy seemed to be nuts and very probably manic or on drugs, and this consideration apparently plays no role in the minds of violent rioting looters. This massive individual is what the cop was up against, a cop that apparently has an exemplary record. Sure, it conceivably that the the cop just shot Brown when Brown had his hands up and was on his knees… shot him seven times. Yeah, like the decorated cop wouldn’t even be thinking about his future as a cop and a free man. There’s no indication of such erratic behavior in the cop’s past. Anything is possible, but that is *highly* unlikely. But look at Sharpton and Jackson and Holder and all the rest holding to that crazy theory that the cop went insane, when it was obvious that Brown was already acting insane.

anotherJoe on August 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

And just like the expulsion of rancid gas…here comes the smell.

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Eye for eye justice is cool now?

Let me know when we start executing murderers in our jails.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Clown is so simple-minded.

I think he had brain damage at some point .

CW on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Well, we got the video coming up on autoplay again. Sometimes we got more than one video on autoplay. That’s always fun.

anotherJoe on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

specifically, he says, he grabbed Brown’s neck, which would seem hard to do to a man who’s 6’4″ from a sitting position.

6’9″ AP.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

More confusion!

canopfor on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

But a color TV, a few cases of Beer, some swisher sweets, and burning a few buildings will sooth the rage until then, right?

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

aquateen, crawl back under the rock. It’s cozier there.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Why wait a week?

She didn’t know she had it?

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

I’ve heard something like this before. My younger sister is an officer in Iowa and she was involved in a shooting during a soccer game between some two Latin American teams. It was amazing to hear the crowds view versus what really happened. I’ll always remember one lady on TV that said “the girl officer just pulled out her gun and started blazing away”. The perp who was killed and he was firing a gun into the fight that broke out. But the press is only getting one side of the story. I’m not buying anything that is said till I hear the other side.

tommer74 on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Rachel Jentel

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Pig
Pig
Pig

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

You’re so dumb. Holy smokes. That and the fact you have a mental illness …how sad. Does your family know?

CW on August 18, 2014 at 6:55 PM

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

chupi has returned and he took the rock.

chupi has a thing for rocks. Claims its racist, or something.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 6:55 PM

It’s chudi time…then wash it down with a glass of H2O.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

BTW, I’m ordinarily sympathetic to the “police state is rising” point of view. I’ll immediately disregard that if everyone on your side views cops as pigs.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Here we go again.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Somebody has a video of this from beginning to end.

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Why wait a week?

She didn’t know she had it?

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

The cops tools her phone for the investigation. Maybe they just gave it back to her.

coolrepublica on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

…because she was getting ready for work.

At least she has a job. I wonder what kind of work she does?

Kaffa on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Chudi, chupi; is that the Nigerian doctor?

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Meatwad appears.

Meatwad is a fictional character on the Adult Swim animated television series Aqua Teen Hunger Force (also known by various alternative titles). Meatwad is a simple-minded, naïve, short attention spanned giant anthropomorphic ball of ground meat, who is often tricked, manipulated, and bullied by various villains or his roommate Master Shake.

tanked59 on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Rachel Jentel

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

That’s retarded, sir.

AcidReflux on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

So he claims.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

So she waited for the autopsy to figure out her story? And now she has a story -now, after the other stories- but not video of the actual shoot?

R-i-i-i-i-i-ght …

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

How many milliseconds between the first four shots and the last two? That’s not how surrender is done.

jdpaz on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The pigs

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Darren Wilson is a murderer.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Chudi, poor Chudi

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Who’s out there clamoring for a video tape that shows less than nothing?

Axeman on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

What a Moe!

bernzright777 on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Darren Wilson is a murderer.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Like Zimmerman?

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Fat, stupid, racist pig.

Pig needs to be thrown in jail asap. Pig needs to face a jury for charges of murder. Pig needs to pay his due to the public.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Cartoon Network on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Thanks for going against part of the narrative that his the victim being called a “teen”. By doing so, you’re admitting that the victim was old enough to understand the risks and consequences of his actions, which included robbery. He was also old enough to understand what might happen to him if he tried to assault a cop.

F+

Now, please tell us why the cop murdered the man.

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Why wait a week?

She didn’t know she had it?

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Not something that can be posted to a e-Bay auction.

Why do you think so many people rush to scenes like this with cameras to hand? Sure some care about justice or want to be “citizen-journalists” but for some it’s about trying to get a PAYDAY.

As for this young lady, I don’t know which she falls in right now, i’m more interested in what the video shows/doesn’t show and how it reflects to the evidence.

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Ah! Doctor of Nigeria. Define ‘murder’ s’il vous plait.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

2 Moe – in – a row.

bernzright777 on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

So she waited for the autopsy to figure out her story? And now she has a story -now, after the other stories- but not video of the actual shoot?

R-i-i-i-i-i-ght …

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The autopsy destroys her story, along with the fact that the officer suffered a facial injury.
But, fifteen minutes or something.
I’ll listen to the neighbors who actually witnessed the event. And, have a stronger grasp of the English language.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

More confusion!

canopfor on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

There is no confusion unless you are looking for reasons to justify murder like most of the people here are doing. This is pretty clearly an execution at high noon. Darren Wilson is a murderer and he will pay.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Darren Wilson is a murderer.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

break a few windows, steal some liquor, a few cigs, and maybe throw a molotov cocktail at some police. It’ll make everything better. Right?

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

And just like the expulsion of rancid gas…here comes the smell.

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM

He’s in a pissy mood because that “Fortune 50″ company didn’t accept his bid for lawnmowing services.

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Dr. Death on Greta.
I know, not a fan either.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Rachel Jentel

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

That’s retarded, sir.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

If by “That’s retarded” you mean “We new school” …

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Pig needs to be thrown in jail asap. Pig needs to face a jury for charges of murder. Pig needs to pay his due to the public.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

That’s a serious backtrack from death penalty.

But then again, you are looking for a lynching.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Fat, stupid, racist pig.

Pig needs to be thrown in jail asap. Pig needs to face a jury for charges of murder. Pig needs to pay his due to the public.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

You know what will make you feel better?

Looting. Arson. Robbery.

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Why wait a week?

She didn’t know she had it?

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

If only you would take time out from defending a murderer just because he’s white to read, you will find out that the cops confiscated her phone after the incident. All the eye witnesses have lined up, but you people insist on believing the fictional Josie.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Interesting that all of the witnesses are consistent on two points:
1) That Brown had done nothing wrong, and
2) That the police are the problem.

A defense attorney would have a field day with them on the stand.

BKeyser on August 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Fat, stupid, racist pig.

Pig needs to be thrown in jail asap. Pig needs to face a jury for charges of murder. Pig needs to pay his due to the public.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Did your Uncle Bob touch you in your special place.

RickB on August 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Meatwad is a fictional character on the Adult Swim animated television series Aqua Teen Hunger Force (also known by various alternative titles). Meatwad is a simple-minded, naïve, short attention spanned giant anthropomorphic ball of ground meat, who is often tricked, manipulated, and bullied by various villains or his roommate Master Shake.

tanked59 on August 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Cartoon Network has absolutely sucked for years. I mean, really. Power Puff Girls?

They were much better before the PC crowd made them grab the guns of Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam…

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM

More like ‘high early afternoon’ but OK. Still waiting for definition.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM

So she waited for the autopsy to figure out her story? And now she has a story -now, after the other stories- but not video of the actual shoot?

R-i-i-i-i-i-ght …

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The story was consistent from the beginning, but you would rather believe the fictional Josie because you want to justify this murder.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Fat, stupid, racist pig.

Pig needs to be thrown in jail asap. Pig needs to face a jury for charges of murder. Pig needs to pay his due to the public.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM

You sure have got something against Pork…whats the problem, did Wilbur turn you down for the Junior Prom?

Or maybe Wilbur was the aggressor, and never returned your phone calls?

Inquiring minds…well, really we don’t give a sh!t, but hey, since you’re here stinkin up the place…

:ordering extra bacon:

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Darren Wilson is a murderer.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Tell us why you think Wilson woke up that day and suddenly decided to murder the victim, whom he’d probably never met in his life.

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Can’t wait for the trial.

It’ll be Zimmerman all over again.

In the meantime, some banhammer is needed.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:07 PM

…And, have a stronger grasp of the English language.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

This is pretty clearly an execution at high noon. Darren Wilson is a murderer and he will pay.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Why did Wilson decide to murder the guy?

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Ed, please consider using the ban hammer on this dude.

307wolverine on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Boy, these wits are going to need a lot of coaching before trial. LOL

Blake on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

The story was consistent from the beginning, but you would rather believe the fictional Josie because you want to justify this murder.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Her story is not consistent with the autopsy.

Getting a truthful witness statement out of this neighborhood, is as easy as getting a truthful statement out of a Palestinian neighborhood during the current conflict.

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Tell us why you think Wilson woke up that day and suddenly decided to murder the victim, whom he’d probably never met in his life.

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Don’t you know that when it comes to blacks, intent is always toward murder? /

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

No no, Nobar. Don’t ban the idjit. Aside from the comic relief, we need to know just exactly how valuable a Nigerian Med course is.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

…And, have a stronger grasp of the English language.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Oh yes, Dr. Chudi, medicine woman, you’re the best judge of what is racist and what is not.
Just ask that rock.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:10 PM

No no, Nobar. Don’t ban the idjit. Aside from the comic relief, we need to know just exactly how valuable a Nigerian Med course is.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Keep Chudi, ban meatwad.

Should have made that clearer.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Bad news: I. Don’t. Care.

M240H on August 18, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Why wait a week?

She didn’t know she had it?

formwiz on August 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM

She waited to get a lawyer to see how much money she could make out of it. Looks like they both bought dresses and got their hair done too.

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2014 at 7:11 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Because you live for playing the race card.

According to you everybody else is racist.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Pig straight up executed that man.

Pig needs to go to jail.

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Next time you need a cop call Al or Jesse – the Justice Brothers.

alanstern on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

canopfor on August 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

There is no confusion unless you are looking for reasons to justify murder like most of the people here are doing. This is pretty clearly an execution at high noon. Darren Wilson is a murderer and he will pay.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Chudi: I think the police officer version is more believeable
then a ThugGoon that intimidates the good peoples of
Fergusen!!

You Lefty Twits do realize that P*G, is just as racist
as the use of the “N” Word!!!!!!

canopfor on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

No no, Nobar. Don’t ban the idjit. Aside from the comic relief, we need to know just exactly how valuable a Nigerian Med course is.

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:09 PM

He wasn’t talking about the Chudi witch doctor.
I doubt the mods will do shit, though.
AquaNet has been spewing worse the last couple of days.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

…And, have a stronger grasp of the English language.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

That thing is married to a crooked pig. Of course its a racist pos.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

“I saw him duh!!”

Blake on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

So she comes out on CNN after the autopsy report has been released. Kind of covenient that she can make her story kind of fit with the results (except the part about the arms in the air). I’m thinking a good attorney could take her story apart on cross-examination.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 7:13 PM

alanstern on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

What kid of idiot ever needs a pig?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Why did Wilson decide to murder the guy?

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

I’m waiting for facts. But worst case scenario for Wilson, this is clearly not murder–and Chudi needs to take a criminal law course.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Chuuuuuuuuudi! Yoohoo! A cut n’ paste from Wiki would at least indicate you understand the question. Define ‘murder’, please!

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:14 PM

And now for some objective analysis:
The vantage point that the video was taken from makes it less than reliable viewing for an altercation that would occur near the driver door.

nobar on August 18, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

I’m not white.

What’s your next excuse.

portlandon on August 18, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I hope eon won’t mind me sharing this from the headlines section that has already been moved …

I haven’t opined on this so far because I wanted to see the PM (Post Mortem) results first. Now that I have, here’s my take.

First of all, the GSWs (Gun Shot Wounds) are not “scattered all over the body” of the decedent (dead person, i.e. Mr. Brown) as Mr. Crump says. Looking at the PM diagram here, it shows that aside from the GSWs to the head and neck area, all GSWs were concentrated in the area of the right arm.

I’m seeing three entries in the right arm, one of them an avulsed (torn) wound in the mound of the right palm (base of the thumb area). This looks like a graze hit, and would be consistent with the slug “scraping” along that part of the hand enroute elsewhere; the cliched’ cowboy movie “just a flesh wound, Ma’am” hit.

It most likely “lines up” with the bicep wound above the elbow, indicating that the arm was bent when the round impacted. This would be consistent with a “defensive” wound on the subject, i.e. a wound suffered while in close engagement with the shooter. I’m postulating (SWAG) that Mr. Brown was in close assault on the officer when officer drew weapon, and Mr. Brown by reflex threw his right hand in front of him (thereby ceasing his assault for a split-second), and received a bullet that creased the right hand before hitting him further up the arm. Which is consistent with an assault performed on the officer while the latter was still behind the wheel of the car, and trying to fend off the attacker (Mr. Brown) who was standing next to the car and reaching in.

The rest of the right arm/upper right torso hits are also consistent with this version. The dispersion of hits is consistent with the officer shooting one-handed, across his own body from right to left, upward from the sitting position.

Having done this in training against silhouette targets at ranges up to 25 yards, I can assure you that in my case at least, accuracy goes to hell in a handbasket. Instead of my usual three to five-inch one-hand groups, I got what looked more like shotgun patterns with serious vertical stringing of up to a foot and a half. And I was shooting from a chair over a plywood barrier simulating a car door, not from a real car.

In short, the dispersion looks like what I would expect to see in such a shooting as described by the officer.

The angled wound just above the elbow traversing the base of the muscle anchorage is odd. It might be a graze bullet impact, but could also be a cut, possibly acquired in the previous activity at the store.

Moving on to the chest, we see a wound in the upper right pectoral area. This could be a “re-entry” wound from one of the arm hits, or a graze from a near-miss; the avulsion does not tell us much either way.

The neck and head wounds are interesting. The right eye hit looks like a classic “cranio-ocular” shot, i.e., the way we were taught to stop an assailant who hadn’t stopped after multiple upper torso hits. The dotted line indicates that it entered at a downward angle, exited under the right side of the chin (very likely breaking his jaw in the process), and the bullet then re-entered just in front of the clavicle (collarbone) to the right of the esophagus. Exactly where that bullet ended up is of interest; my money would be upper lobe of the right lung or possibly upper right ventricle of the heart. (If it hit the collarbone or a rib, though, all bets are off; it could be in his liver, for all I know.)

The thing is, this would be a failed cranio-ocular “stop” shot. The point of the CO shot is to hit the brain; this one missed it by a country mile, due to the extreme downward angle.

The crown of the head shot is what ended the fight. It went vertically down into the brain and probably ended its trajectory in the brain stem or upper spine. That will shut any higher vertebrate down, pretty much permanently. (Just not necessarily instantly, again never mind Hollywood.)

The head hits are consistent with the assailant having his head “down”, as in a charge or “bull rush” as the witnesses keep saying. (Must be a local slang term; I’d call it a football linebacker’s charge.) It would reduce the attacker’s profile, and would be a reasonable maneuver if the attacker knew he was facing an adversary armed with a firearm.

Note that there are no wounds in the back, entry, exit, or otherwise. Also that the head wounds are not consistent with the officer shooting down at the deceased while deceased was prone or supine on the ground. In fact, none of the GSWs are consistent with anything but the decedent being on his feet, facing the shooter, and mostly at less than arm’s length range.

Dr. Baden noted the lack of GSR. I’m inclined to think a test of the decedent’s shirt would show lots of it on the upper right quadrant.

My estimate is that the PM results support the officer’s statement, not that of the other witnesses. Keep in mind that peer pressure and an “us vs. them” mentality can drastically affect witness testimony. (To say nothing of opportunistic activity by people with “agendas”.)

That’s my professional opinion as a firearms and trace evidence technician. YMMV.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Emphasis mine.

pambi on August 18, 2014 at 7:15 PM

…And, have a stronger grasp of the English language.
HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

I love when racists show themselves…lol.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

That thing is married to a crooked pig. Of course its a racist pos.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM

And, there it is.

HornetSting on August 18, 2014 at 7:15 PM

George Zimmerman Darren Wilson is a murderer.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM

You guys are so boring. Nothing but one trick ponies. Got any other song and dance routines or is that all you have?

HotAirian on August 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

The idea that a cop would reach out and attempt to pull a man the size of Michael Brown into his car not only doesn’t pass the smell test, it smells to high heaven. More likely, Brown assaulted the officer instead.

I don’t know how you diffuse this issue. No one in the black community has an iota of interest in any explanation that doesn’t make the officer guilty of murder. Tough to get a impartial jury when all the prospective jurors have already rendered a verdict.

Dan_NV on August 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Ed, please consider using the ban hammer on this dude.

307wolverine on August 18, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Seconded.

pambi on August 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

I’m thinking a good attorney could take her story apart on cross-examination.

Bitter Clinger on August 18, 2014 at 7:13 PM

In fairness to her, she comes off better than Rachel Jenteal. Though her use of some words sounds a little scripted.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Sorry about the confusion. I don’t think banning either troll is a good idea. In order to understand the other side, you need to hear them. (Even if it hurts)

DemetriusPhalerum on August 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM

The story was consistent from the beginning, but you would rather believe the fictional Josie because you want to justify this murder.

Chudi on August 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Does anyone have a clue on who Charo here keeps harping on…Josie?

Is the plate in your head stuck on the Steely Dan channel?

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Pig needs to face the death penalty for murder.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Has anyone figured out how much time this jerk*&f has spent in the pokey?? Getting the Pokey??

Or has he actually come out and admitted it???

BigWyo on August 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM

but says she didn’t see any sort of chokehold,

What’s this crap, now, about chokeholds? Aren’t chokeholds administered from behind? Has it ever been suggested that the officer administered a chokehold?

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM

I just started watching some coverage of this and they always refer to Brown as “unarmed teen Mike Brown”. That is extremely odd. It’s like they realize that Brown was bull rushing the cop to kill him and take his gun but they are desperately trying to pin it on the cop.

The media behavior is the most interesting thing about this case. They will push to have the white cop falsely charged and imprisoned because it is unsafe for the media to be honest. No one will injure or kill a journalist on the ground because their network got a white cop falsely charged but one can be injured or killed because their network didn’t try hard enough to get an innocent white cop falsely convicted.

Buddahpundit on August 18, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Well the fog is clearing a bit, more information about the time line is coming out. All in all, that is good. Still, the local and state leaders blew this big time. Governor Nixon got played big time by the “community crowd”. He waited way too late to call up the National Guard. The heart of Ferguson is gone, the stores could rebuild, but why take the chance. All over a lousy box of cigars.

flackcatcher on August 18, 2014 at 7:19 PM

St. Louis Today is reporting:

She then said she saw the teen, hands in the air, attempt to flee. Several shots hit Brown as he ran, Crenshaw said. She complied with a request that she give photos of the scene to authorities.

Since the autopsy shows no shots in the back, her testimony is clearly inaccurate.

Kaffa on August 18, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Kaffa on August 18, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Bingo.

pambi on August 18, 2014 at 7:20 PM

She seems vaguer in the earlier video about what happened in the first few moments between Brown and Wilson.

Even if she’s not doing it intentionally or even consciously, she’s filling in holes in her own memory with what she has heard from others. She’s compromised as a witness.

forest on August 18, 2014 at 7:20 PM

BlaxPac on August 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM

chupi decides on his narrative early on and sticks with it no matter what. He contorts all other evidence to fit his opinion. And his opinion is always that everybody else is racist.

And he is in love with a rock.

cozmo on August 18, 2014 at 7:22 PM

How many milliseconds between the first four shots and the last two? That’s not how surrender is done.

jdpaz on August 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The rapper who lived nearby (“Pharoah” something or other) and was tweeting stuff out shortly after it happened said that the cop fired two shots at Brown as he was running, and then fired “a barrage” of six shots at Brown when he turned back towards the cop.

From his description, it sounded like the last six shots came in rapid succession.

AZCoyote on August 18, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Her voice reminds me of Ramon from the health club in Beverly Hills Cop. You know, the guy who stopped by the Harrow Club to Victor Maitland that he has Herpes simplex 10.

“I think that would be best.”

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Chudi you really are a pos.

CW on August 18, 2014 at 7:22 PM

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