Eric Holder orders additional autopsy on Michael Brown. Wait… what?

posted at 5:03 pm on August 17, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

I was traveling most of the afternoon, so I’ll probably rely on some of the usual eagle eyed commenters with legal backgrounds, as well as our usual sources, for some more details on this one. As the situation in Ferguson continues to roil, and the curfew is extended for another night (contrary to previous press announcements) Attorney General Eric Holder is getting involved.

Attorney General Eric Holder called for another autopsy to be performed on slain black teenager Michael Brown, whose shooting by a white cop in a St. Louis suburb has sparked violent protests that left a man critically wounded early Sunday.

“Due to the extraordinary circumstances involved in this case and at the request of the Brown family, Attorney General Holder has instructed Justice Department officials to arrange for an additional autopsy to be performed by a federal medical examiner,” Justice Department spokesman Brian Fallon said in a statement.

“This independent examination will take place as soon as possible,” he continued, adding that officials will still take into account the state-performed autopsy during their probe.

The Brown family legal team also hired a reputable forensic pathologist to conduct its own autopsy of the 18-year-old’s body.

Their own spokesperson is using the phrase “extraordinary circumstances” here, so that seems to be an acknowledgement that the normal protocols are in flux. I’m not suggesting that this is illegal – unless somebody can cite a specific instance to make that case – but what is there about the death of Michael Brown that makes this a federal case? If you sweep aside the wall to wall media coverage and celebrities flocking to Ferguson, this is a case of one person who was shot during a confrontation with a local police officer, allegedly on the heels of a low dollar value robbery at a convenience store. Nobody crossed state lines that I’m aware of. And when you look at it in that perspective, there are many such cases around the country every year. (Many more than we would like to see, it should go without saying.)

We try not to leap to conclusions, but it seems there is a rather obvious case to be made that the Obama Administration (unless Holder took this upon himself without approval, which seems unlikely in the extreme) has decided to latch on to this incident and it has political fingerprints all over it. How else would you explain it? Yes, the Brown family attorney supposedly made the request, but I’d be willing to wager that most every family in the country – of any race, religion or otherwise – who lost a family member in violent, questionable circumstances would love to have big guns like this brought to bear. But they don’t get it. And that, again, is assuming that it’s even appropriate for the feds to be injecting themselves into an ongoing investigation to begin with. There haven’t even been any charges files, to say nothing of a trial being held which some might dispute after the outcome. I don’t care for the looks of this at all.


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It would seem to me that if the story being told by the witnesses that young Mr. Brown was shot in the back with his hands up, it wouldn’t need three autopsies to determine what are entry and what are exit wounds. Toxicology might be interesting also.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Missouri Rep.: I Have ‘No Confidence’ In Ferguson Police Investigation (VIDEO)

Rep. Lacy Clay (D-MO), who represents Ferguson, Mo., on Saturday said that he doesn’t trust the Ferguson police to conduct a fair investigation into the death of Michael Brown, the black teen who was shot by a police officer.

“I have absolutely no confidence in the Ferguson police, the county prosecutor,” Clay told CREDO’s Ferguson Justice Live. “We know we won’t get a fair shake there.”

The congressman slammed the local police for releasing a video that allegedly shows Brown robbing a convenience store.

“That’s why they did what they did today, was to negatively influence a jury pool in St. Louis County,” Clay said. “Just to assassinate Michael Brown’s character is wrong. He was already assassinated, so now you’re going to assassinate his character? What kind of human being are you? That’s the kind of question I have to ask.”

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon (D) also criticized the Ferguson police for releasing the video, which he called “an attempt to attack his character.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Yep, that’s exactly the kind of a-factual narrative that is being pushed Holder here.
Oh, wait, that probably wasn’t what you were trying to do with that post, was it?

Count to 10 on August 17, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Folks like Ned are beyond looking for the truth. They just want someone to lynch.

When the inhabitants of Dupont Circle start rioting Ned will be right there with them, looting his heart out.

HumpBot Salvation on August 17, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Release the first results now. Death was probably due to a single gunshot wound to the forehead close range…means MikeMike was charging the cop. Gonna be hard to dispute that because I doubt the 9mm bullet came out the other side.
Toxicology is critical..there will be at least PCP’s in that young man’s blood.
Eric Holder’s gonna have some ‘splainin’ to do to his flock when the facts finally come. Every rabid resident of Ferguson will go home to look for their next civil rights violation.

gracie on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Anyone who thinks that race does not still skew the application of criminal justice is just not paying attention.

I am totally out of my wits and act like the bottom latrine rat.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

The only issue that might be relevant that the ME can establish is the distance he was shot at. Remember, the nutters have already created this meme that the officer stood over him and shot him point blank 5-6 times!!!!1!!!!!

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Anyone who thinks that race does not still skew the application of criminal justice is just not paying attention.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Sure, but clearly not the way you are thinking.

Count to 10 on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

The federal government should be a check on local police not their arms dealer. Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Ferguson Police Has Lost All Credibility

There needs to be a special prosecutor for this case.
Only the Federal Government will ensure justice in this case.
Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Let’s see …

We have a soldier sitting in a jail in Mexico, the IRS Issue(s), fast and furious, the billions spent on Obamacare website development, etc., etc., etc.

It’s not the local police who have lost credibility, it’s the Department of Politics/Justice.

EdmundBurke247 on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

novaculus on August 17, 2014 at 5:29 PM

The want a DOJ autopsy and have hired their own guy.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Holder would have to find something to get past Mark O’Mara again, if O’Mara continues to represent Zimmerman.

O’Mara’s defense was a master class in how to defend a criminal case, from the cross-examination, to the exhibits to his closing. He’s the best in FL, if not one of the best in the US.

Wethal on August 17, 2014 at 5:27 PM

If it turns out that this cop is justified in this shooting (and I’m beginning to bet he is) and no state charges are brought, I hope he gets a lawyer every bit as good when the Feds try to ream him.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM

. Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

No one cares, darlin. Three should get them all the answers they need.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:33 PM

The federal government should be a check on local police not their arms dealer. Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Actually Obama’s azz is a pretty safe place to be.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Sorry, only Federal Government’s word will carry weight with Michael Brown’s family and the residents of Ferguson me.

Whatever investigation Ferguson Police, St. Louis County, or State of Missouri does will not be believed by me.

This is Civil Rights issue and my Marxist ideology says only the Federal Government will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Corrected.

UnstChem on August 17, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I don’t mind so much having the Feds do an independent autopsy. The police, regardless of the rightness of their actions are still a tribe which protects their own, so it’s better to have this check noted up front before any temptation of coverup even a smidgeon of the truth is planted or is allowed to grow. The way I see it is that the more the Fed’s investigation matches that of the Ferguson police department, the sooner the trust begins to be rebuilt between the police and the public in Ferguson.

Dusty on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Funny, because I have no confidence in Holder because he is a racist who hates white people…Do you hate white people?

William Eaton on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I’m beginning to think this may be about race…..

KCB on August 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM

LOL.

Whenever Holder acts, you know racism — primarily his own — is involved …

ShainS on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Release the first results now. Death was probably due to a single gunshot wound to the forehead close range…means MikeMike was charging the cop. Gonna be hard to dispute that because I doubt the 9mm bullet came out the other side.
Toxicology is critical..there will be at least PCP’s in that young man’s blood.

gracie on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I’m thinking they need to be on the lookout for liver damage. One of the things we learned from the Zimmerman mess is that “Drank” makes it’s abusers violent.

Count to 10 on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Jazz, it is a federal case because it is a juicy opportunity to reap some racial animosity.

J.B. Say on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Sorry, only Federal Government’s word will carry weight with Michael Brown’s family and the residents of Ferguson.

Whatever investigation Ferguson Police, St. Louis County, or State of Missouri does will not be believed.

This is Civil Rights issue and only the Federal Government will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Hey, Ned, I’ll ask for about 4th time.

Will you have this much faith in the federal Government if a Republican wins the White House in 2016?

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

C’mon, Ned. Surely you have the intellectual honesty to answer my question.

(For the rest of you, I’ll pause while you catch your breath from laughing yourselves silly.)

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Not too complicated to understand.

Here’s a quote from Mr. Alinsky to help put it in context.

‘The organizer must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.’”

aquaviva on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Do you hate white people?

William Eaton on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

“No, I’m just for justice” — Dead Pecker

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I have nothing but disdain for Eric Holder we don’t need a activist attorney general he is incompetent to boot. Holders view of “Juatice” is racially blind and plus he has zero credibility on anything.

sorrowen on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Ned and is clown act are boring. Time to move on.

CW on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

It does not require a second (or third) autopsy to determine that the deceased was black, the only relevant fact in AG Holder’s mind.

IndieDogg on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Anyone who thinks that race does not still skew the application of criminal justice is just not paying attention.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:29 PM

What are you basing that worn out claim on?
Hivemind in full display, imo.

(p.s. The 70′s called…they want their schtick back)

Mimzey on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

stingray9813 on August 17, 2014 at 5:28 PM

You have 2 problems as I see it, Grasshopper.

1. You’re citing the Huffington Post.

2. You’re claiming the video was edited, yet the link you share makes absolutely no mention of the video being edited.

Won’t give you a grade. Not worth it.

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

In Powerful Speech, Cpt. Johnson Apologizes to Brown Family, Promises to Stand by Ferguson

Johnson began by apologizing to Brown’s family. “I wear this uniform, and I should stand up here and say that I’m sorry,” Johnson said to a long round of applause.

“I’ll tell you right now, I came in today and saw people cheering and people clapping; this is what the media needs to put on TV.”

“When this is over, I’m gonna go in my son’s room,” Johnson said. “My black son, who wears his pants saggy, wears his hat cocked to the side, got tattoos on his arms. But that’s my baby, and we all oughta be thanking the Browns for Michael. Because Michael’s gonna make it better for our sons, so they can be better black men.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-powerful-speech-cpt-johnson-apologizes-to-brown-family-promises-to-stand-by-ferguson/

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Holder will keep trying until he gets the results he wants. All their other narratives have fallen apart in front of their eyes.

They need something to get the Pookies like Ned off the couch this fall.

At this point, it’s all about politics not the truth.

HumpBot Salvation on August 17, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I’m beginning to think this may be about race…..

KCB on August 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Why play the race card?
libfreeordie on May 4, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Nothing to see here..
Only fearmongering and scaring the populace
Ned Pepper on August 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Since when is it ok to try ANYONE in the media? Since when is it ok to verbally abuse/physically attack a cop? And why are the looters so stoopid they think its ok to loot/destroy shops/stores because they’re angry and not know those shop/store owners will probably move away and never return. That town has no one to blame but itself for destroying/driving citys commerce away. Where are they gonna shop for food now? Oops, guess they’ll get angry again and go to the next town???

soapyjeans on August 17, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Anyone who thinks that race does not still skew the application of criminal justice is just not paying attention.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Care to disprove the documented evidence that proves that race skews the frequency of crime in Democrat-run cities?

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Jazz, it is a federal case because it is a juicy opportunity to reap some racial animosity.

J.B. Say on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

It’s an opportunity for Barky to pander to his base, to make up for the unrest that his hispandering has started to cause them. Fair and balanced, yo.

bofh on August 17, 2014 at 5:38 PM

They’ll keep autopsying until they get the result
they want .
” Swiss Cheese ” indeed Cindy .

Lucano on August 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM

It would seem to me that if the story being told by the witnesses that young Mr. Brown was shot in the back with his hands up, it wouldn’t need three autopsies to determine what are entry and what are exit wounds. Toxicology might be interesting also.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:30 PM

When all of those witnesses testify under oath that the exact same thing happened, maybe we’ll know the truth.

Either that, or we will know that they were all coached.

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Here is something the GOP can do….impeach Holder.

I know Obama is too much for the GOP to handle in terms of impeachment, but Holder is a different matter. The low info voters don’t know or care who he is, so it is not like there will be a big backlash if after the election the GOP punks him. Plus it will keep the justice dept. busy protecting Holder and not causing mischief.

William Eaton on August 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

[Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM]

They aren’t intervening in the autopsy, you idiot.

BTW, your grade school called to say they rescinded your diploma.

Dusty on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Eric MY PEOPLE Holder getting involved, no, it’s not about race.
The minute Mike Brown fell onto that pavement, it became about race. Listen to the commentary on that video Jazz posted.
Installing Captain Ron Johnson into the mix is about race. He’s been a miserable failure, just ask the people who own a business and actually work in Ferguson.
Hands tied, stepping back, letting the rampage and lawlessness continue.
Look at the border.
It’s ALWAYS about race and until we really sit down and gave a truthful conversation, it will always be about race.

HornetSting on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

In Powerful Speech, Cpt. Johnson Apologizes to Brown Family, Promises to Stand by Ferguson.

In other words, captain Johnson made Brown, the robber and cop, er pig-attacker into a hero.

SOB should be fired immediately, because he isn’t for enforcing laws. But, like Holder, melanin is the most important thing in his life.

But since Nixon/the Governor, is in on it, he will keep his job, if not get a promotion out of it.

Fu*k off, all you turds for ‘justice’.

MLK died for nothing at all.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

If Michael Brown had been a white ‘Gentle Giant’ thief, who had been shot by a black or Hispanic or Asian-American or Native-American or even white police officer, there would be no story.

There would also be no rioting as demonstrated by the lack of same when two of Obama’s sons murdered a rabbi on the way to temple in broad daylight last Saturday.

And, ENOUGH, with the specious arguments made by liveenslavedthendie & Co about ‘it was only property!’

Let’s run a few ‘It’s only property!’ scenarios to demonstrate how inane such arguments are:

1. A white ‘Gentle Giant’ steals liveenslavedthendie’s laptop. On said laptop was his sole copy – because Carbonite and iDrive are corporations, libfree refuses to add to their profit margins – of his doctoral dissertation…on which he laboured for more than 3 years and it was bestseller quality, man, NYT bestseller quality. I’m a tellin’ ya.

Oh well, it’s just private property./

2. The nice family that lives next door to Ned Pepper barely keeps their heads above water…forget keeping up with the Joneses. Dad earns his living as a plumber. One night, he is bone-assed tired. Instead of lugging in all of his tools and knowing that he has a 6 AM appointment, he locks his truck, finds his dinner in the oven where his long-since retired wife has left it warming, eats, kisses his children, and crawls into bed.

Around 3 in the morning, he is awakened by the loud blaring of his car alarm. By the time he gets to the truck, some tweaker has cleaned him out. However will he work? How will he feed his family? What about the mortgage payment?

Oh well, it’s just private property./

Of course, if the family loses everything, Ned Pepper won’t care, but I will.

3. Cool Republica has an awesome sister, Cool Britannia. She’s a single mum of two kids and has never been on the dole in her entire life. She has a great little business doing nails, hair, weaves, and extensions. She used to do it out of her car, but she got so successful that she opened a sweeeeeeeeeet shoppe where people come as much for the service as they do for the camaraderie. Of course, business is so brisk and word-of-mouth out-of-this-world that reservations are about as hard to get as they are at a Michelin restaurant. Girl got it going on!

But, wouldn’t you know it? One day, somes dat don’t got and don’t wants to gets da hard way like Cool Britannia gots all pea green wid da enveeee, as Mammy (she’s my favourite character) might say, and decided dat Cool Britannia was acting all white ‘n stuff and livin above her station or something. So, they just helped themselves to some dem dere wigs, weaves, and dreads. Dey be owed.

No Hair Weaves, No Peace!

Oh well, it’s just private property./

Of course, if Cool Britannia loses everything, I, for one, will very much care.

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Doesn’t matter what they did the first time. No one, including the Federal Government DOJ led by Eric Holder, is ready to believe anything put out by the racist set up in Ferguson.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I imagine you are perfectly okay with Holder dropping the charges against the Black Panthers for voter intimidation even after the actors involved had pled guilty?

ladyingray on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Jay Nixon Criticizes Ferguson Police For Releasing Michael Brown Robbery Video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/17/jay-nixon-michael-brown_n_5685775.html

There is now video of Michael Brown paying for his cigars…and it looks like he got into it with the store clerks over how he was dealing with them at the counter. It also looks like the police released an edited version of the store video.

stingray9813 on August 17, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Uh, no. Nixon said the tape disparaged Brown’s character. So, what? He had bad character. And if they try to prosecute the officer, the tape is admissible.

As to the rest of what you wrote; I did not find it at the link you provided. You say he paid for them — his pal’s atty already stated to the media that Johnson said he stole them and it was a “prank.”

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Because Michael’s gonna make it better for our sons, so they can be better black men.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36

Maybe Big Mike’s parents should have done a better job of making him a better black man. He might still be around.

HumpBot Salvation on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

In Powerful Speech, Cpt. Johnson Apologizes to Brown Family, Promises to Stand by Ferguson

Johnson began by apologizing to Brown’s family. “I wear this uniform, and I should stand up here and say that I’m sorry,” Johnson said to a long round of applause.

“I’ll tell you right now, I came in today and saw people cheering and people clapping; this is what the media needs to put on TV.”

“When this is over, I’m gonna go in my son’s room,” Johnson said. “My black son, who wears his pants saggy, wears his hat cocked to the side, got tattoos on his arms. But that’s my baby, and we all oughta be thanking the Browns for Michael. Because Michael’s gonna make it better for our sons, so they can be better black men.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-powerful-speech-cpt-johnson-apologizes-to-brown-family-promises-to-stand-by-ferguson/

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Is this the same police captain that thought walking with the protesters would stop the looting?

Count to 10 on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

The federal government should be a check on local police not their arms dealer. Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Loudly shouting is only making us laugh at you even harder. You Go, Girl!

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Rand Paul: If you don’t realize race skews the justice system, you’re not paying attention

WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 (UPI) — In an op-ed for Time magazine, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul spoke to concerns about the role big government is playing in over-policing protestors in Ferguson, Mo., in the aftermath of Michael Brown’s death at the hands of local police.

Paul, who has recently emerged as a vocal critic of the role race plays in the criminal justice system, continued to speak to his concerns about “big government” through the lens of police, writing,
“There is a legitimate role for the police to keep the peace, but there should be a difference between a police response and a military response.”

Paul recalls his youth, and said if he could not predict his response if ordered by police to stop protesting, but would never anticipate violence as a reaction.

“If I had been told to get out of the street as a teenager, there would have been a distinct possibility that I might have smarted off,” writes Paul. “But, I wouldn’t have expected to be shot.”

Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

“Anyone who thinks that race does not still, even if inadvertently, skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention. Our prisons are full of black and brown men and women who are serving inappropriately long and harsh sentences for non-violent mistakes in their youth.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3193045/posts?page=70

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

LOL….

What a doofus.

William Eaton on August 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Nothing left but little pieces of meat in the coffin.

Chopped up. Examined..

Nice.

wolly4321 on August 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM

It’s ALWAYS about race and until we really sit down and gave a truthful conversation, it will always be about race.

HornetSting on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Change we can believe in.

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM

They’ll get the same folks who did Vince Foster’s autopsy to weigh in…

Severian on August 17, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Is this the same police captain that thought walking with the protesters would stop the looting?

Count to 10 on August 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Yep. “Captain Ron” couldn’t have been named any better.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:43 PM

The state police chief who took over is seen walking with Bloods and he himself is throwing blood gang signs.

So, it should be his integrity that is in question — not the Ferguson PD.

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:43 PM

we all oughta be thanking the Browns for Michael. Because Michael’s gonna make it better for our sons, so they can be better black men. hold-up men and know to shoot out the camera first before stealing and roughing up the clerk.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

I look forward to the toxicology reports on Brown, too.

Wethal on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM

If I understand correctly, one of the “witnesses” who said he saw the whole thing told someone on the phone at the time of the incident that he couldn’t see anything but “everybody said”. Now that doesn’t mean that the officer didn’t make a wrong decision but it sure is taking a long time for information to come out.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

I don’t mind so much having the Feds do an independent autopsy. The police, regardless of the rightness of their actions are still a tribe which protects their own, so it’s better to have this check noted up front before any temptation of coverup even a smidgeon of the truth is planted or is allowed to grow. The way I see it is that the more the Fed’s investigation matches that of the Ferguson police department, the sooner the trust begins to be rebuilt between the police and the public in Ferguson.

Dusty on August 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

The Police did not do the first autopsy, the State of Missouri Medical Examiners did. And Missouri is run by Democrats.

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Rand Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

“We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!!!”

ladyingray on August 17, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Douchebag making gang signs:

http://goo.gl/603OkB

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:45 PM

How long does it take to disect a 290lb turd?

wolly4321 on August 17, 2014 at 5:46 PM

I look forward to the toxicology reports on Brown, too.

Wethal on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Doesn’t matter. They’ll claim that was photoshopped, too.

BallisticBob on August 17, 2014 at 5:46 PM

The obama admin has been wrong on so much that they will go out of their way to try and score. They won’t win this one either. I so hope I can witness when holder, obama and many others will have to kneel and bow to Christ and give an answer for what they have done (especially killing the innocent in the womb).

crosshugger on August 17, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Sorry, only Federal Government’s word will carry weight with Michael Brown’s family and the residents of Ferguson.

Whatever investigation Ferguson Police, St. Louis County, or State of Missouri does will not be believed.

This is Civil Rights issue and only the Federal Government will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Hey, Ned, I’ll ask for about 4th time.

Will you have this much faith in the federal Government if a Republican wins the White House in 2016?

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

C’mon, Ned. Surely you have the intellectual honesty to answer my question.

(For the rest of you, I’ll pause while you catch your breath from laughing yourselves silly.)

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Still waiting, Ned.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:46 PM

The federal government should be a check on local police not their arms dealer. Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

I’m such a loud fascist now.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:46 PM

An independent examination, or an independent anything, done under Holder? Is this a joke?

VorDaj on August 17, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Douchebag marching with gangbangers:

http://goo.gl/wZIBoE

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Transcript from video via IJReview:

#1 How’d he get from there to there?

#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

{crosstalk}

#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

{crosstalk}

#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus – the police had his gun drawn already on him –

#1. Oh, the police got his gun

#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

{crosstalk}

#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

#1 The Police?

#2 The Police shot him

#1 Police?

#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Given the enormous curiosity this case has attracted from the national media and the clumsy handling by the Ferguson police, I would say it is merited here. You have looting, exacerbated by the perception by the black community that an all-white police force will never be brought to justice. So, this may be an instance where our black president can do some good with his black attorney general.

Of course, it is an election year, but it’s doubtful this will mobilize blacks as a whole in competitive races. Obama would have latched onto this issue regardless. Can’t see it would do any harm.

ezspirit on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Anyone catch Reverend Al Sharpton and the rally?
It’s gonna hurt in Ferguson tonight.
Keeping that race war alive!

HornetSting on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Holder’s gonna have to tell them what really happened ’cause the townies are not gong to believe the white guys. It’s going to be really hard for Holder to eat crow but he’ll have to do it and it will be delicious for the rest of us.

gracie on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

In Powerful Speech, Cpt. Johnson Apologizes to Brown Family, Promises to Stand by Ferguson

Johnson began by apologizing to Brown’s family. “I wear this uniform, and I should stand up here and say that I’m sorry,” Johnson said to a long round of applause.

“I’ll tell you right now, I came in today and saw people cheering and people clapping; this is what the media needs to put on TV.”
“When this is over, I’m gonna go in my son’s room,” Johnson said. “My black son, who wears his pants saggy, wears his hat cocked to the side, got tattoos on his arms. But that’s my baby, and we all oughta be thanking the Browns for Michael. Because Michael’s gonna make it better for our sons, so they can be better black men.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-powerful-speech-cpt-johnson-apologizes-to-brown-family-promises-to-stand-by-ferguson/

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM
That’s why the black community is in the toilet we have fools like Ned Pecker encouraging bad and illegal behavior or excusing it.

sorrowen on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I wanna know the lenght of his intestines.

wolly4321 on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Nothing like a craven and bankrupt fascist demanding more fascism – particularly when it appears they have several more race cards to play in order to divide and disrupt a community.

There’s no acceptable reason for Holder’s demand – except that they need to Goebbels the story a bit…..

Athos on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Rand Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

You mean you don’t know pandering when you see it?

ladyingray on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Rand Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Hey, I have an idea.

Maybe large numbers of African-Americans could avoid committing crimes. I’ve seen those who do, and they’re not in prison.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM

ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING EVEN LOUDER, DEAD PECKER.

YOU CAN ALSO BOLD THEM, IDIOT.

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Rand Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

1. They’ll never vote for him so he can stop sucking up to them.

2. If you want racial disparity, while blacks make up slightly less than 13% of the population, they commit more than 50% of the murders.

Blake on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Holder’s gonna have to tell them what really happened ’cause the townies are not gong to believe the white guys. It’s going to be really hard for Holder to eat crow but he’ll have to do it and it will be delicious for the rest of us.

gracie on August 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Holder will lie.

He’s not going to eat any crow or tell the truth. It’s not in his interest or that of the equally racist and craven President.

It’s in their political interests to keep stirring racial trouble up.

Athos on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Tea Party Darling Rand Paul Agrees with Al Sharpton

Paul then spoke directly to the concerns of America’s minority communities, observing that “Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.”

“Anyone who thinks that race does not still, even if inadvertently, skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention. Our prisons are full of black and brown men and women who are serving inappropriately long and harsh sentences for non-violent mistakes in their youth.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3193045/posts?page=70

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

This guy seems like he really saw something and will make a credible witness. It does not look or sound good for the officer but the truth would be great.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

An independent examination, or an independent anything, done under Holder? Is this a joke?

VorDaj on August 17, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Holder and Co. missed their opportunity to get involved in the Zimmerman case earlier and try to steer the evidence towards their preferred conclusion.

They won’t make the same mistake this time.

Alien on August 17, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Glad to see the DOJ intervening in Michael Brown’s autopsy.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Holder may start by sniffing his azz. You’re in obama’s; so, you know a ting or two about such autopsies.

Guess what? They don’t count in court.

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:52 PM

This is Civil Rights issue and only the Federal Government will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Yeah, and what about the Rabbi that was murdered in broad daylight going to a mosque that had recently been vandalised with swastikas and Hamas verbiage?

Our precious federal government isn’t even calling it a hate crime even though the two dudes walked up and shot him at point blank range in front of his family and made no attempt to rob him, which make since because rabbis don’t carry cash on the Sabbath.

THIS IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT ANY PART OF IT.

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

This may come as a surprise to you but no one wants the officer to get away with anything if he was wrong. No one has an aversion to the truth.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Let ‘em run their autopsy. Odds say that they’re likely to determine he’s just as dead as the local authorities did.

Stoic Patriot on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Tea Party Darling Rand Paul Agrees with Al Sharpton

I’m always a liar and plagiarist. See this comment.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

God help us all. Showing actual evidence of mischevious behavior is character assasination. Rumors and third-hand “eyewitness” testimony is taken as gospel. God help us all.

Huckabye-Romney on August 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

This is Civil Rights a craven political issue and only the Federal Government more fascism will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Athos on August 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

There is no truth to power without 290 lbs of ground beef.

Examine every molecule.

wolly4321 on August 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM

These trolls are spammers. Foolrepublic has been posting the same exact statement about militarized police all day on every thread no matter what, Aquaboy says pigs and facscists 100 times in every thread and now this DeadPecker is posting the same link over and over again. Isn’t spamming against the terms of use here? I’m really getting sick of this.

BeachBum on August 17, 2014 at 5:56 PM

“I have absolutely no confidence in the Ferguson police, the county prosecutor,” Clay told CREDO’s Ferguson Justice Live. “We know we won’t get a fair shake there.”

Wait a tick…Lacy was one of the perps???

Mimzey on August 17, 2014 at 5:56 PM

No one has an aversion to the truth.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Actually, there are quite a few people who apparently have an aversion to the truth – just none of those who are seeking justice. The only one’s with an aversion for truth are the one’s making this a political and racial issue for their own gain.

Athos on August 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM

I strained my neck today just shaking my head in bewilderment.

tomas on August 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM

THIS IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT ANY PART OF IT.

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

They didn’t want any part of this either…

RIP Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom….

ladyingray on August 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM

This guy seems like he really saw something and will make a credible witness. It does not look or sound good for the officer but the truth would be great.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM

It’s all pretty simple.

Step up and offer testimony under oath, hold up to cross-examination, and that would go a long ways with me.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM

I’m just waiting for Brown’s funeral so that I can send a very nice card saying I very much approve.

BTW, Obama didn’t attend that General’s funeral. I think he was too busy with something more important like golfing or playing with himself while admiring himself in the mirror. But then he didn’t even send Biden or Hagel … or even a bagel. I just wonder if he will attend his latest son’s funeral.

VorDaj on August 17, 2014 at 5:58 PM

This may come as a surprise to you but no one wants the officer to get away with anything if he was wrong. No one has an aversion to the truth.

Cindy Munford on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

But the Ferguson Police are exactly doing that. In no other case, the name of officer is withheld. But in this case they hid his name for 6 days.

The Ferguson Police have not released the incident report. They don’t answer the simple question “How many bullets were fired?”. They know the answers but they are hiding to save one of their own.

Do you understand why Ferguson Police has lost all credibility?

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:58 PM

This is Civil Rights issue and only the Federal Government will ensure justice.

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Yeah, and what about the Rabbi that was murdered in broad daylight going to a mosque that had recently been vandalised with swastikas and Hamas verbiage?

Our precious federal government isn’t even calling it a hate crime even though the two dudes walked up and shot him at point blank range in front of his family and made no attempt to rob him, which make since because rabbis don’t carry cash on the Sabbath.

THIS IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT ANY PART OF IT.

Resist We Much on August 17, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Admittedly, Israel *is* one of the most notorious terrorist states out there, can you really blame Hamas?

libfreeordie on June 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Thank you, President Obama and Eric Holder!

Ned Pepper on August 11, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Maybe large numbers of African-Americans could avoid committing crimes. I’ve seen those who do, and they’re not in prison.

Bitter Clinger on August 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Right behind my house and at least four other families in the wealthier tract just west.

arnold ziffel on August 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

I don’t care for the looks of this at all.

- Allah

Quite the understatement. The Federal government — either the President himself or weirdly (but not impossibly) his nitwit race-obsessed affirmative action appointee Eric Holder, has decided that the people of Missouri should not have any faith in the ability of the State of Missouri to conduct an autopsy in support of a criminal and/or internal investigation of a police shooting.

As Allah says, what fuc*ing business is it of O’Bozo’s or Holder’s? And if you’re the Democrat Governor of Missouri … wow. This is a pretty clear message telling him his career is over.

Jaibones on August 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Do you understand why Ferguson Police has lost all credibility?

Ned Pepper on August 17, 2014 at 5:58 PM

They still have far more credibility than a plagiarist…..

Athos on August 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

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