New Plan: Let’s let Libyans attend flight school, study nuclear science in US

posted at 8:31 am on August 16, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

I understand that everyone is busy with a cavalcade of stories out of Missouri and various places around the world. That’s a given, and who could blame us for being distracted? But back on the Washington ranch, Andrew Malcolm has turned up a story worthy of our interest. It seems that there’s a new rule change in the offing which applies to some old friends of ours.

Remember the aftermath of 9/11 when investigators made the chilling discovery that American flight instructors had unwittingly taught the Arab hijackers how to fly jumbo jets like the ones they plowed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, killing some 3,000 innocents?

And how one of the dumber hijackers had raised suspicions, letting slip that he had no intention of seeking a pilot’s license? But, you might not be surprised to learn, Washington wasn’t really into taking seriously any alarms from unimportant places like Minnesota?

Turns out, President Reagan worried about terrorist hijackers using airplanes as weapons way back in 1983. He banned Libyans from taking flight lessons or nuclear studies in the United States.

Now, believe it or not, President Obama is lifting that ban because, aides say, post-Gaddafi Libya and its relations with the United States are “normalized.”

Seriously? We just abandoned our embassy there last month.

Seriously!

Even given his credentials, some might think a story like this so unlikely that perhaps Andrew had gotten into the brandy a bit early. But, as usual, he was right.

The Obama administration has lifted longtime restrictions on Libyans attending flight schools in the United States and training here in nuclear science, according to a final amendment of the ban recently approved by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

Less than two years after the deadly terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is poised to sign off on an amendment reversing the ban, which was enacted following a wave or terrorist attacks in 1980s and prevents Libyans from studying these sensitive trades in the United States.

Because things are going so well with the Libyans these days, I guess. The Homeland Security spox in question has assured us that there would be “robust and thorough security threat assessments and vetting procedures” in place for any Libyan students enrolled in such programs. So, with that reassuring caveat, I suppose that all is well.

The UN announced only this weekend that they were sending a few hired guns to try to negotiate a cease fire in Libya – no small feat given the number of other brush fires they have to try to stick their noses into at the moment. The country is still chock full of people bent on destruction of one flavor or another, no small number of which wouldn’t mind giving the United States another serious black eye. Is this really the time to be releasing the doves and offering an olive branch? I mean, we have sufficient other fish to fry at the moment that we could open a new Arthur Treacher’s chain in every nation on the planet.


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God I hate this country sometimes.

tomas on August 16, 2014 at 8:35 AM

What could possibly go wrong?

AZCoyote on August 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM

I think vetting applicants on an individual basis is better than banning entire nationalities because a lot of Euro citizens are as bad as third-world terrorists yet have Euro citizenship.

Federati on August 16, 2014 at 8:41 AM

jesus this admin is dangerously stupid and destructive.

dmacleo on August 16, 2014 at 8:42 AM

You can’t make this stuff up.
I feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone. How much longer do we have to endure this idiocy?

bobthm3 on August 16, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Tomas, it’s more evidence that he hates this country all the time.

FOWG1 on August 16, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Because, really, the desire to create an image of inclusiveness is so much more important than national security. /

And when the inevitable happens, our fearless feckless leaders will be shocked and surprised.

Syzygy on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

I am always amazed when people equate Obama’s action to being naive or stupid…the man is systematically destroying this nation and all the journalists keep saying it is due to inexperience or incompetence. OPEN YOUR EYES…not only should he be impeached but he should be imprisoned for his actions. He and the democrat party are traitors to this country and until we realize and acknowledge that, they will continue on their path of total annihilation.

trs on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

You mean more quality vetting like the FBI did with the Boston bombers–#doomed.

hillsoftx on August 16, 2014 at 8:49 AM

It is hard to comprehend the depth of hatred the Democrats have for our way of life. Why else would they subject We the People to the risk of another 9/11/2001?

Zorro on August 16, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Barack Obama – Domestic Enemy of the Constitution of the United States.

turfmann on August 16, 2014 at 8:51 AM

I think vetting applicants on an individual basis is better than banning entire nationalities because a lot of Euro citizens are as bad as third-world terrorists yet have Euro citizenship.

Federati on August 16, 2014 at 8:41 AM

In theory, perhaps, but I don’t trust the would-be vetters to make the correct decisions. It’s easier and safer to just ban them all. But that’s not to suggest that I think those with European citizenship should get a free pass. Maybe nationalities isn’t the best way to go. There must be some other, more reliable criteria that we could use. I just can’t imagine what that might be….

Syzygy on August 16, 2014 at 8:54 AM

DHS is too busy watching “clingers”, veterans, and Americans who believe that our government should follow the Constitution. to watch foreigners.

kjatexas on August 16, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Tomas, it’s more evidence that he hates this country all the time.

FOWG1 on August 16, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I know…I just don’t recognize anything. The walls are falling down.

tomas on August 16, 2014 at 8:56 AM

And those will ISIS cards get to move to the front of the line.

HumpBot Salvation on August 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM

jesus this admin is dangerously stupid and intentionally destructive.

dmacleo on August 16, 2014 at 8:42 AM

bgibbs1000 on August 16, 2014 at 8:59 AM

New Plan: Let’s let Libyans attend flight school, study nuclear science in US

Great idea! here’s a better one.How about an America-hating Muslim for president? Oh I see, that’s already been accomplished.

MaiDee on August 16, 2014 at 8:59 AM

trs on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Yep. Unless US citizens revolt against this oppressive, tyrannical regime we are doomed to be subjects of an all powerful totalitarian police state…

Doomsday on August 16, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Because, really, the desire to create an image of inclusiveness is so much more important than national security. /

And when the inevitable happens, our fearless feckless leaders will be shocked and surprised take away what’s left of our liberties.

Syzygy on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

bgibbs1000 on August 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM

New Plan: Let’s let Libyans attend flight school, study nuclear science in US

Yeah, they can call it the Lockerbie Flight School.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 16, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Same thing is happening in Australia. I have moved from Sydney to a small country town just in case. I don’t know what’s going to happen.

Dark days ahead for all of us.

Crux Australis on August 16, 2014 at 9:11 AM

What Republican is going to step up and take this on. Pass a law as soon as congress reconvenes and dare Dirty Harry to kill it and then dare Obama to veto.

Aplombed on August 16, 2014 at 9:11 AM

bgibbs1000 on August 16, 2014 at 8:59 AM

wasn’t meaning stupid as in intelligence, meaning stupid to do what they are doing as it ruins the country.

dmacleo on August 16, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Jazz, should we place Libyans in camps…would that be more palatable to you?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:18 AM

The Obama administration has lifted longtime restrictions on Libyans attending flight schools in the United States and training here in nuclear science, according to a final amendment of the ban recently approved by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

It’s official: Dear Liar is the greatest threat to this country. It’s no longer a question of whether he’s a bumbling, naive fool. He isn’t. Well, he is, but that’s our only saving grace. He hates this country and wants it not merely to fail, but to be nuked.

rbj on August 16, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Don’t worry. It’s common core nuclear science.

Ronnie on August 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Well, let us hold Obama criminally responsible for any terrorism that results. He will have no presidential immunity by then. I think his head on a pike at the location of any resulting terrorist act would be a great national memorial. How dare him and his henchmen endanger the people of The United States.

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 9:23 AM

You don’t let foreigners with Ebola in your country…if course not these would be terrorists.

tomas on August 16, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Who’s Arthur Treacher?

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:25 AM

I think his head on a pike at the location of any resulting terrorist act would be a great national memorial. How dare him and his henchmen endanger the people of The United States.

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 9:23 AM

watch it man, you’re treading on thin ice

threats against the president’s life can warrant FBI investigations

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

Why don’t you go sit in a corner and do some mind exercises with that thought. See if you can follow it to its logical conclusion.

Aplombed on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Who’s Arthur Treacher?

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Google’s down?

Ronnie on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Jazz, should we place Libyans in camps…would that be more palatable to you?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:18 AM

A country is people. Without people there is no country. Countries don’t kill, but the people in them do kill. I think we should put stupid commenters like you in camps. We could drop in a few Libyans and maybe a handful of Mexican cartel members. Your tag is also a lie.

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Because they’re Muslim and Muslims have a tendency … more than anyone else in the world … to kill westerners using any means necessary and will lie about anything to achieve their goals just like progressives?

darwin on August 16, 2014 at 9:29 AM

watch it man, you’re treading on thin ice

threats against the president’s life can warrant FBI investigations

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

He said “hold Obama criminally responsible”. That’s not an unlawful threat on his life.

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:29 AM

And when the inevitable happens, our fearless feckless leaders will be shocked and surprised.

Syzygy on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

And, don’t forget, blame Booooooosh!

ladyingray on August 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Google’s down?

Ronnie on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

I dunno. Too lazy to look.

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM

The majority of Americans elected Obama thinking he was for American. They couldn’t have been more wrong.

sadatoni on August 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 9:23 AM

watch it man, you’re treading on thin ice

threats against the president’s life can warrant FBI investigations

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

That wasn’t a threat you fluking imbecile.

oscarwilde on August 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM

threats against the president’s life can warrant FBI investigations

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

I hope he chokes on a Skittle.

Ronnie on August 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM

The majority of Americans elected Obama thinking he was for American. They couldn’t have been more wrong.

sadatoni on August 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

There was plenty of information saying just the opposite. Unfortunately, most Americans are fed a steady diet of propaganda from the treasonous media and believe every word of it.

darwin on August 16, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Relax you right wing nut jobs, getting to be handled by the FBI.

Yes, the FBI that didn’t get the Benghazi compound until Two weeks after the terrorist attacks. The FBI that beaten to the scene by just about everybody including a CNN reporter who took Ambassador Steven’s diary from the unsecured scene.

Oh boy….

can_con on August 16, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Vetting

can_con on August 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM

sadatoni on August 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

There was plenty of information saying just the opposite. Unfortunately, most Americans are fed a steady diet of propaganda from the treasonous media and believe every word of it.

darwin on August 16, 2014 at 9:36 AM

The late Andrew Breitbart called the Mainstream Media, the most dangerous enemy that America faced in the world. Shame none of the pundit’s here at Hot Air share Andrews beliefs.

oscarwilde on August 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM

The Obama administration, in my opinion, is sabotaging our national security. What else can you conclude when tens of thousands of illegal felons are turned loose from our prisons, terrorists, gang members and members of drug cartels stream across our southern border, looters and rioters are media heroes and now we offer Libyans training in nuclear science. That can’t be considered a coincidence.

Dan_NV on August 16, 2014 at 9:47 AM

The late Andrew Breitbart called the Mainstream Media, the most dangerous enemy that America faced in the world. Shame none of the pundit’s here at Hot Air share Andrews beliefs.

oscarwilde on August 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM

What Breitbart said is absolutely true. Progressives cannot succeed without the media pushing their lies and covering up the truth.

darwin on August 16, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Can you just imagine the crises facing the POTUS elected after Obummer? God help the USA.

Herb on August 16, 2014 at 9:54 AM

The country that elected Barack Hussein Obama President is the country that Barack Hussein Obama has hated passionately since his early youth.

This is why I’m no longer interested in conversations/discussions/arguments with Obama voters- they feel exactly the same. It isn’t that “you didn’t build that”; it’s that they want to take it from you or destroy it.

M240H on August 16, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Same thing is happening in Australia. I have moved from Sydney to a small country town just in case. I don’t know what’s going to happen.

Dark days ahead for all of us.

Crux Australis on August 16, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Oh, noooo. Australia and Costa Rica are the new Utopias for many on the Right. Please don’t bust that meme for ‘em now.

I’m an Eeyore for thinking that there is no place to run to. It doesn’t take much in the way of investigation to realize that most heretofore attractive places to live are being taken over by Socialists backed by their NWO banker comrades, a tidal wave of immigrants from the Third World, the steady influx of Muslims, and are run by corrupt dictators who agree with Hitler and Stalin that the middle class are slobs who can’t make their own decisions, and corporations that pretty much want slave labor.

I applaud your decision to move out of the city.

The Industrial Age for the Western world is over. There really is no need for cities any longer. And even when there was a need for them, they were insufferable hell holes of poverty, crime and vermin. And they are the focal point and power base for Communists and the various other criminal organizations we call political parties.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 16, 2014 at 9:57 AM

What could possibly go wrong?

AZCoyote on August 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM

For Team SCOAMT, the inevitable terror attack happening before 11/1/2016.

Steve Eggleston on August 16, 2014 at 9:58 AM

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

child. When you have a chance. Search Chowan college and the 9-11 attacks. You went to Harvard, right? I was at Chowan for a brief stint. We called it the Persian dorm.

Bmore on August 16, 2014 at 10:04 AM

I am always amazed when people equate Obama’s action to being naive or stupid…the man is systematically destroying this nation and all the journalists keep saying it is due to inexperience or incompetence. OPEN YOUR EYES…not only should he be impeached but he should be imprisoned for his actions. He and the democrat party are traitors to this country and until we realize and acknowledge that, they will continue on their path of total annihilation.

trs on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM

^^This, a thousand times this. Although Obama is additionally pretty lazy and not too bright, and couldn’t come up with all these strategies on his own. Obama said it himself, his goal is to fundamentally transform the country. And now we’re to believe he didn’t mean it even as he does it?

Fenris on August 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Additionally child, have a look at the student body at Georgia Tech. The current student body.

Bmore on August 16, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Now, believe it or not, President Obama is lifting that ban because, aides say, post-Gaddafi Libya and its relations with the United States are “normalized.”

Seriously? We just abandoned our embassy there last month.

Seriously!

He. Is. One. Of. Them.

There can be no doubt at this point.

Key West Reader on August 16, 2014 at 10:30 AM

No, this is less evil than it is world class stupid.

formwiz on August 16, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Isn’t NASA still teaching Muslims how to make rockets so they can feel good about themselves?

Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.

BL@KBIRD on August 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM

But if we are nice to them, and treat them with respect, they will like us!!

Worked in Afghanistan.

Worked in Ferguson, MO.

PattyJ on August 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM

How many more incidents need to happen with Muslims before people in the country begin to finally wake up and figure out that Barak Hussein Obama is a Muslim sympathizer and will do everything in his power to bring down America? This is not the normal state of affairs for this country and yet no one calls him out nor do they do anything to stop him.

BetseyRoss on August 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM

watch it man, you’re treading on thin ice

threats against the president’s life can warrant FBI investigations

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Actually that wasn’t a threat, nor was it intended to be a threat. It was more in the nature of a prediction and warning. However librul agitators like you and our enemy combatant national media can always construe it as a threat if you can get away with it. You wouldn’t be a DA in Texas would you?

That wasn’t a threat you fluking imbecile.

oscarwilde on August 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM

He said “hold Obama criminally responsible”. That’s not an unlawful threat on his life.

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Thank you for your support. There are no limits on the utility of patriots with the ability to read.

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

NEW PLAN: Let’s abolish all federal alphabet agencies, starting with DHS.

Exninja on August 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Crux Australis on August 16, 2014 at 9:11 AM

I thought Tony Abbott had you blokes going in the right direction mate.

celtic warrior on August 16, 2014 at 11:25 AM

You wouldn’t be a DA in Texas would you?

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

No, but she fantasized about being one in a Holiday Inn Express the other night. While she was scrubbing urinals in the men’s room.

Oldnuke on August 16, 2014 at 12:12 PM

“robust and thorough security threat assessments and vetting procedures” in place

Hmmm….the SEC said the same….while Bernie Madoff raked in millions.

Virginia Tech VP said the same thing…..before Cho went on a shooting spree.

GarandFan on August 16, 2014 at 12:38 PM

You wouldn’t be a lesbian DA in Texas would you?

Old Country Boy on August 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Good guess! ‘Member nonpartisan graduated Harvard Law!!
AND is RWM’s intellectual superior!!11elbenty!11!!!

So doing a gay fat drunk chick attorney gig in Texas would be, like, the perfect job for nonpartisan, amiright?

Dolce Far Niente on August 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

I’m not racist for stating the obvious

or is hotair now a PC haven?

nonpartisan on January 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Oops. Girl, bye.

slickwillie2001 on August 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Laughing contempt is one of the main attitudes jihadis and Islamists have towards the US. I share their contempt. America has a powerful military but is otherwise a contemptible idiotic weakling run by childlike political correctness and that just about neutralizes the military.

Django on August 16, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Who’s Arthur Treacher?

kcewa on August 16, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Best fish and chips in town. Plus, hush puppies.

/MSM = Hush Puppies.

Key West Reader on August 16, 2014 at 1:38 PM

MSM = Hush Puppies.

Key West Reader on August 16, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I bet Twitchy will pick up on this Hush Puppy thing. LOL!

/I hope so

Key West Reader on August 16, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Seriously, Obama has not made a single move that was good for the USA. Everything that he has done has been to our detriment and/or good for radical Muslims. The guy is such a Manchurian Candidate.

Theophile on August 16, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Both of obama’s daddies were Sunni.

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Adolf Hitler took a lot of things and twisted them, doesn’t mean all of his ideas were bad ones

nonpartisan on July 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2014 at 2:14 PM

but I thought mass shootings only occurred in gun-free zones?!
nonpartisan on April 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Words fail me.

Patriot Vet on August 16, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Why should Libyans as a people be discriminated against because of Libya the country?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Your certainly are dense.

Patriot Vet on August 16, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Jazz, should we place Libyans in camps…would that be more palatable to you?

nonpartisan on August 16, 2014 at 9:18 AM

No. We shouldn’t train them. That’s what. It’s really that simple. Reagan put those measures in place because of what that country stood for and did. As it is now, it is worse in Libya than before, all thanks to Jugears. Who’s to say one of those ‘Libyans’ doesn’t just come to the US and learn all that good stuff, and then go back to Libya and regroup with his Jihadi friends. Just because you have a passport from that country doesn’t mean you don’t want to harm the US or its allies.

Patriot Vet on August 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Have you figured out yet that Obama is playing for the other side?
Once you come to that conclusion, the actions of this administration begin to make sense.
On any given issue, it is easy to figure out what action Obama will take. Figure out the worst possible action for the interests of the American people. That is the action that will be taken.
Thank you,
CW

Cold Warrior on August 16, 2014 at 8:47 PM

From a Security / Social Engineering angle, I am all for it; let’s see who applies ….

steveracer on August 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM