Laura Ingraham: Obama sounds like a Salon.com blogger

posted at 10:01 am on August 15, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Filling in for Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly on Thursday, conservative columnist and radio host Laura Ingraham tore into President Barack Obama’s decision to comment on the unfolding situation in Ferguson, Missouri.

On Thursday, the president held a brief news conference where he updated the press on the situation in Iraq and addressed the escalating violence in Missouri. Obama warned the demonstrators that there was no excuse for violence against law enforcement, and he scolded the police for detaining members of the press and using heavy-handed tactics against protesters.

“The leader of the free world, with sagging approval numbers, jumping into another local criminal justice situation,” Ingraham remarked. “And, once again, he does this before all of the facts have been gathered, before authorities have completed their own investigation.”

Ingraham noted that this episode is no different from the recent past when Obama said that the police in Cambridge, Massachusetts acted “stupidly” after the arrest of Professor Henry Louis Gates, or that the slain Florida teen Trayvon Martin would have looked like his son if the president had had one.

Ingraham added that the president’s record on race is checked, because his attorney general has suggested that everything from criticism of the president and himself to the enforcement of immigration laws is tainted with racial bias.

Ingraham submitted that Obama’s underwhelming job approval numbers and the appearance that his party is going to be punished by voters at the polls in November may also be driving this latest push to stoke racial tensions. “This is textbook Obama,” Ingraham observed.

“There is supposed to be a difference between being the President of the United States and a liberal commentator on Salon.com,” she concluded.

While Ingraham has a valid point, and Obama’s administration has certainly played an unhelpful role on the issue of racial comity at times (one of those times being the entirety of the 2012 campaign), liberals would hardly have recognized Obama’s comments yesterday as those of a liberal pundit.

Indeed, more than a handful of left-of-center commentators were disappointed that the president called for calm and deliberation rather than, as have some on the left, more outrage over the appearance of injustice in Ferguson. Oddly, many used the same word to describe Obama’s tone in addressing the violence in Missouri:

It seems some on the left would have preferred Obama appear boiling with rage over the incident in Ferguson, and have expressed whole and total solidarity with the demonstrators over the police. That is how out of step the liberal commentariat is with their elected leadership.

And it’s not just liberal columnists and bloggers who were disappointed with Obama’s speech. According to NBC News, African-American leaders were equally disappointed with the president’s address.

But there is a concern, particularly among African-American activists, that soothing words from the president are not enough. They want to see the president, in his speeches, directly connect the deaths of Michael Brown in Missouri and Eric Garner in New York, both black men, to police brutality and persistent racism. Obama has generally avoided both subjects.

And they wonder if the first black president is doing enough to address issues like police shootings and the jobless rate among blacks, which is double that of whites.

The president struck a careful tone, as he did in the wake of Martin’s death. And it is likely Obama will say more as details of Brown’s death emerge.

But the situation in Ferguson has angered African-Americans, and some have been disappointed by Obama’s reaction. They say it fits into a larger pattern: the first black president is often afraid to call out behavior that directly harms blacks.

While conservatives like Laura Ingraham hear Obama echo the sentiments that would be expressed by only the most sequestered of liberal thinkers, progressives heard Obama hedge and placate to conservatives and whites. These two reactions are a universe apart, and are reflective of just how deeply polarized the realm of opinion journalism has become.

I have to believe, however, that most welcomed the president’s call for calm, the mild pox he cast on both the houses in Ferguson, and his request that Americans remain united in the face of adversity. I have to believe that most Americans are not parsing and decoding Obama’s speech in order to divine some divisive hidden message. For most Americans, a cigar is just a cigar, and I have to believe that pundits on the right and left are, in this case, over thinking things just a bit.

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My dog could have made that Obama statement…

It was nothing more than a “check the box” comment…

PatriotRider on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

If African-americans have it so bad, why don’t they go back to Africa?

el hombre on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Killing black folks and getting away with it was the way of life in America. Cops covered for you. And Cops themselves could do it and nothing would happen.

But the country has changed now. Can’t get away like they used to.

And the Racists are hopping mad.

It ain’t 1940, 1950s, good old america any more.

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:07 AM

His speech was LAME ok? Just say it and stop kissing the guy’s backside.

Jeez Louise. If this was any R they would be HOWLING.

Ingraham added that the president’s record on race is checked

Should that be “checkered?”

King Putt doesn’t give a rats backside about any of the crises that currently worry the rest of us.

dogsoldier on August 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Is there a new journolist where they decided on the word ‘tepid’?

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 10:10 AM

I have to believe that most Americans are not parsing and decoding Obama’s speech in order to divine some divisive hidden message.

No Noah, we are ignoring the Rat Eared Bastard all together. Every word out his mouth is a politically calculated hedge or lie.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Ned tap dances for us, right on cue.

CurtZHP on August 15, 2014 at 10:10 AM

For once, I have to agree with Noah.

Obama, because he is the first black President, cannot avoid being asked about, and expected to comment on, Ferguson.

So, I don’t think we can validly say that he was wrong to make any comment. And, unlike his comment regarding the MIT professor or in the Trayvon case, I think this comment was exactly the kind of benign, “let’s all calm down”, comment that he should have given. Really saying nothing, but not escalating things.

He is not a good President, is not bright, and most of his decisions and statements do more harm than good, but in this one instance I think he did the right thing. because of the whole “first Black President” thing, I don’t think he really has the option of a “no comment” on the situation. So, the comment he gave was the best option.

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Laura made a great point, though. If you don’t know the facts and you’re President of the United States (can’t be underscored enough), why even bother drawing microscopic-like attention to: (a) yourself, (b) any statement you give, and (c) an issue that has already been heavily polarized if the situation is still unfolding? What’s even more baffling is how Obama waffles depending on the circumstances (“We don’t know all the facts… [but] the police acted stupidly.”).

These two reactions are a universe apart, and are reflective of just how deeply polarized the realm of opinion journalism has become.

Which is why Obama should have respectfully said, “I think it’s best to wait until internal reviews and investigations are completed, as it would be irresponsible to prematurely comment on something still developing.”

Then the usual stuff about protesting peacefully, respecting civil liberties, yada yada yada.

Too difficult for him, I know.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Ned, you forgot to take your meds this morning… again. Your delusional.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM

And the Racists are hopping mad.

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:07 AM

I agree, the rioting is out of control.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM

He couldn’t just say ‘present’

But it came close

txdoc on August 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Killing black folks and getting away with it was the way of life in America. Cops covered for you. And Cops themselves could do it and nothing would happen.

But the country has changed now. Can’t get away like they used to.

And the Racists are hopping mad.

It ain’t 1940, 1950s, good old america any more.

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:07 AM

the many, many, many convicted murderers in jail would disagree with your assessment regarding people killing blacks with impunity in America, but when have facts ever stopped a liberal?

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Some days I miss Erika more than others.

butch on August 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Obama says something passionate: “HE’S STOKING RACIAL TENSIONS!!!”

Obama says something reasonable: “WHERE IS THE PASSION!?!?!?!”

buncha pathetic clowns you guys are.

If Obama had even said something as strong as Rand Paul said about the racial issues here, you idiots would be crushing him for “playingt he race card”. White priveleged dummies.

just shut up already.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Some days I miss Erika more than others.

butch on August 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Yep. I feel like I am reading a high school essay when Noah’s name is at the top of the column.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Killing black folks and getting away with it was the way of life in America. Cops covered for you. And Cops themselves could do it and nothing would happen.

But the country has changed now. Can’t get away like they used to.

And the Racists are hopping mad.

It ain’t 1940, 1950s, good old america any more.

that’s okay, other blacks and abortion more than make up for it

Mitochondrion on August 15, 2014 at 10:15 AM

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Hey scrot, it’s your liberal pals complaining about him not being passionate, not the conservatives. Try to get with the program before commenting, or take your own advise:

just shut up already.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Laura made a great point, though. If you don’t know the facts and you’re President of the United States (can’t be underscored enough), why even bother drawing microscopic-like attention to:…

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Because you would be whining and screaming if he didn’t make any statement.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM

So the ferguson situation has been resolved by just removing the white hillbillies from being in charge.

Yazidis have been saved.

Israel and Hamas are about to come to an agreement.

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

the economy and job market are booming. Obamacare premiums have come in and are nowhere near the doomsday predictions you guys were hoping for.

check, check, check, check, check, check.

what’s next for Obama to fix for you guys?

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Ingraham’s comparison of Obama to a Salon blogger was the impetus for a blog post.

Pathetic.

Dusty on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Ferguson, MO – 70% Black

Total # of Cops in Ferguson – 53

Black Cops – 3

White Cops – 50

Police chief of Ferguson this morning: “I learned that I did not know that we had this building undertow of mistrust in that area over there, in the community.”

That area? Over there? Why doesn’t he just say “those people” while he’s at it?

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Obama says something passionate: “HE’S STOKING RACIAL TENSIONS!!!”

Obama says something reasonable: “WHERE IS THE PASSION!?!?!?!”

buncha pathetic clowns you guys are.

If Obama had even said something as strong as Rand Paul said about the racial issues here, you idiots would be crushing him for “playingt he race card”. White priveleged dummies.

just shut up already.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:14 AM

did you even read the post?

You are hardly an informed, reasonable, intelligent, educated voice here – so we won’t be taking your instructions and will continue to voice our opinions.

I guess, also, that you can see through your computer as to everyone’s race/color/ethnicity?

Interesting. In your mind all people of color think exactly the same way, so there can be no posters/commenters here that are not white – correct?

Who is the racist? Who is it that thinks all black people “x”? It is not us.

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM

I bet the cop is black. Obama wants to avoid this local incident at all costs and only commented on it because he was forced to address the riots caused by the race hustlers.

Ellis on August 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Because you would be whining and screaming if he didn’t make any statement.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM

No we wouldn’t. We would be rejoicing in not hearing something feckless, stupid, fascist or rascist coming out of POTUS’s mouth.

Not hearing another word from Obama’s mouth for the next two years would be the greatest blessing he could bestow on this country, or the world for that matter.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Ned tap dances while everdiso plays the spoons.

Kick up those heels, boys!

LOL

CurtZHP on August 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Well he does sound like a salon.com author and they are crazy so…

sorrowen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Because you would be whining and screaming if he didn’t make any statement.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Nope, he’d get praise from me if he did something bold like that. Monkeytoe already mentioned it, but the fact is that he’s expected to always comment on things of this nature because of the racial angle. If Obama was really “a new kind of politician,” he’d have said his opinion shouldn’t be expressed until more of the facts came out.

I mean, come on. Just about everyone can figure out that Obama had to be practically dragged away from his vacation to comment, and as soon as his statement was over, he went straight back to the golf course.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Yes, and HotAir is starting to sound like DailyKos.

We used to get articles like this one.

Crying Huffington Post Reporter Is A Disgrace To Journalism

Sadly, all we have now are pieces following leftwing memes.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

So the ferguson situation has been resolved by just removing the white hillbillies from being in charge.

Yazidis have been saved.

Israel and Hamas are about to come to an agreement.

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

the economy and job market are booming. Obamacare premiums have come in and are nowhere near the doomsday predictions you guys were hoping for.

check, check, check, check, check, check.

what’s next for Obama to fix for you guys?

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

You are, hands down, the stupidest person to ever comment on HA. You give verbie and libfree a good reputation. I am sure you have no idea of how stupid, uninformed, and moronic you are, so please, keep your three ring circus of stupidity going, it amuses us.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:23 AM

he scolded the police for detaining members of the press and using heavy-handed tactics against protesters.

Noah, you left out a couple of ‘allegedly’s.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM

No we wouldn’t. We would be rejoicing in not hearing something feckless, stupid, fascist or rascist coming out of POTUS’s mouth.

Not hearing another word from Obama’s mouth for the next two years would be the greatest blessing he could bestow on this country, or the world for that matter.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Take a few minutes and annotate the fascist and/or racist parts of this statement. I won’t give you feckless or stupid because that’s open to interpretation and opinion.

Now, second, I want to address something that’s been in the news over the last couple of days, and that’s the last situation in Ferguson, Missouri. I know that many Americans have been deeply disturbed by the images we’ve seen in the heartland of our country as police have clashed with people protesting, today I’d like us all to take a step back and think about how we’re going to be moving forward.

This morning, I received a thorough update on the situation from Attorney General Eric Holder, who’s been following and been in communication with his team. I’ve already tasked the Department of Justice and the FBI to independently investigate the death of Michael Brown, along with local officials on the ground. The Department of Justice is also consulting with local authorities about ways that they can maintain public safety without restricting the right of peaceful protest and while avoiding unnecessary escalation. I made clear to the attorney general that we should do what is necessary to help determine exactly what happened and to see that justice is done.

I also just spoke with Governor Jay Nixon of Missouri. I expressed my concern over the violent turn that events have taken on the ground, and underscored that now’s the time for all of us to reflect on what’s happened and to find a way to come together going forward. He is going to be traveling to Ferguson. He is a good man and a fine governor, and I’m confident that working together, he’s going to be able to communicate his desire to make sure that justice is done and his desire to make sure that public safety is maintained in an appropriate way.

Of course, it’s important to remember how this started. We lost a young man, Michael Brown, in heartbreaking and tragic circumstances. He was 18 years old, and his family will never hold Michael in their arms again. And when something like this happens, the local authorities, including the police, have a responsibility to be open and transparent about how they are investigating that death and how they are protecting the people in their communities. There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting. There’s also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights. And here in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground.

I’ll wait.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:25 AM

I don’t have a problem with what he said…it was basically a paint by numbers ‘can’t we all just get along’ message Didn’t really seem like he cared about it in the first place, so I kinda understand why libs are saying it was tepid.

changer1701 on August 15, 2014 at 10:25 AM

So the ferguson situation has been resolved by just removing the white hillbillies from being in charge.

Yazidis have been saved.

Israel and Hamas are about to come to an agreement.

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

the economy and job market are booming. Obamacare premiums have come in and are nowhere near the doomsday predictions you guys were hoping for.

check, check, check, check, check, check.

what’s next for Obama to fix for you guys?

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Wow. talk about living in a world where you make up your own facts. Do you even read any newspapers – or do you just get your “facts” from inside your own head? None of what you posit above is true.

b) the Missouri state police took over for the local PD. Obama had nothing to do with that. And, I’m guessing that the Missouri state police are just as “hillbilly” as the local PD officers in your opinion (i.e., were you to know anything about them as individuals).

b) Yazidis have not been saved, ISIS has not bee stopped. Where did you get this false info?

c) Israel and Hammas – Even if it were true – which is unlikely, Obama has nothing to do with it.

d) Putin is impotent on the sidelines? Again – which world are you living in?

e) the economy and job market are “booming” – really? where? Less than 2% growth is now considered “booming”? Over 6% unemployment is now considered “booming”?

f) Obamacare premiums are what? Again, what world do you live in? First, Obamacare was supposed to “bend the cost curve down”. Costs are up over 13%. Most premiums have risen even higher than that.

Truly, you are delusional – or more likely, a sock puppet troll used to get us to comment more. Well played.

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Nope, he’d get praise from me if he did something bold like that. Monkeytoe already mentioned it, but the fact is that he’s expected to always comment on things of this nature because of the racial angle. If Obama was really “a new kind of politician,” he’d have said his opinion shouldn’t be expressed until more of the facts came out.

I mean, come on. Just about everyone can figure out that Obama had to be practically dragged away from his vacation to comment, and as soon as his statement was over, he went straight back to the golf course.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

He also commented on the situation in Iraq. Even if you don’t agree with the way he is handling that issue, do you think he should have shut his mouth about that too?

Maybe you should be an adviser to Obama. Let him know what he should and shouldn’t say and talk about and where and when he should speak.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Obama’s speech seemed like he was just going through the motions.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I mean, come on. Just about everyone can figure out that Obama had to be practically dragged away from his vacation to comment, and as soon as his statement was over, he went straight back to the golf course.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

So you are saying that he was able to monitor the Ferguson situation (and Iraq) even though he was on vacation, get up to the podium with current and timely information and speak on the subject even though he was on vacation?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

So the ferguson situation has been resolved by just removing the white hillbillies from being in charge.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Even everdiso figured out what Obama was doing yesterday. Sadly, the crack HA staff hasn’t figured it out.

Obama sent in the Feds and a Dem governor to take over. So, he was forced to calm down the situation. If not he would be blamed for all future problems. He was also signaling to Sharpton et al to pipe down.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Obama’s speech presidency seemed like he was just going through the motions.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Gratis.

CurtZHP on August 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

I mean, come on. Just about everyone can figure out that Obama had to be practically drugged away…

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

And who dragged him away? And why was he dragged away? And why did he make a statement?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

If African-americans have it so bad, why don’t they go back to Africa?

el hombre on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Hey look, everyone. Moby has decided to grace our comments section.

BTW, “go back to Africa” is one of the dumbest things a person can say. One has to actually have been to a place in order to “go back” there.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

I’ll wait.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Wait for what? Clearly you don’t understand context, as in

Not hearing another word from Obama’s mouth for the next two years would be the greatest blessing he could bestow on this country, or the world for that matter.

Fascist, nearly any policy he promotes for his crony capitalist backers, income redistribution, income inequality, Obamacare, etc. Feckless, nearly any thing he says about he ME. Stupid, nearly anything he says about any local law enforcement issue. Racist, his favorite playing card.

Keep waiting, Obama is never going to get smarter or competent. Your own that piece of crap in the WH, enjoy!

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Yazidis have been saved.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Tell that to the 3000 Yazidis that are being raped or beheaded while you enjoy your PopTart in Mommy’s basement.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Everclear’s here…..NOW we’ll get some grade A Horsesh*t.

ToddPA on August 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Obama’s speech seemed like he was just going through the motions.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

He voted “present”.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:33 AM

He also commented on the situation in Iraq. Even if you don’t agree with the way he is handling that issue, do you think he should have shut his mouth about that too?

Maybe you should be an adviser to Obama. Let him know what he should and shouldn’t say and talk about and where and when he should speak.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

No, because commenting on the Iraq situation was necessary and deserved more attention than something which is still, no matter how the media frames it, a local controversy.

I get that he wanted to “multitask,” but the two shouldn’t have been compared or put on the same level as each other. A press conference would be different, but Obama didn’t take any questions, he simply gave a statement.

So you are saying that he was able to monitor the Ferguson situation (and Iraq) even though he was on vacation, get up to the podium with current and timely information and speak on the subject even though he was on vacation?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM

One look at Obama yesterday could tell you that he either didn’t want to be there or desperately needed that vacation because due to the stress of the job. I’m actually not against presidents taking vacations (golfing or otherwise), but if there’s one situation that deserves and demands a robust presidential response and focus, it’s the ongoing conflict in Iraq, not Ferguson.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Well why is he getting involved in local politic’s??

sorrowen on August 15, 2014 at 10:35 AM

I bet the cop is black. Obama wants to avoid this local incident at all costs and only commented on it because he was forced to address the riots caused by the race hustlers.

Ellis on August 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM

The police have announced his name now: Darren Wilson. I can’t find anything about him, but I suppose we will eventually.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 10:35 AM

If African-americans have it so bad, why don’t they go back to Africa?

el hombre on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Perhaps because we are just as much “African” as you are European at this point.

mazer9 on August 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Noah, why do you link nobodies from Twitter as if I should care about what they say?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM

If Obama was really “a new kind of politician,” he’d have said his opinion shouldn’t be expressed until more of the facts came out.

I mean, come on. Just about everyone can figure out that Obama had to be practically dragged away from his vacation to comment, and as soon as his statement was over, he went straight back to the golf course.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM

He also commented on the situation in Iraq. Even if you don’t agree with the way he is handling that issue, do you think he should have shut his mouth about that too?

Maybe you should be an adviser to Obama. Let him know what he should and shouldn’t say and talk about and where and when he should speak.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

It’s perfectly valid to comment about what a President says or doesn’t say. Presidential comments tend to have a lot more affect then what other people say. It’s the power of the office. So, sometimes, a wise person will not comment on a situation.

for instance, a President shouldn’t state that “this is a red-line, if you cross this line, there will be consequences”, if it isn’t true. Because, if your bluff is called, you look foolish and weak and it harms the country’s foreign policy.

Or, a President shouldn’t wade in and throw gas on a fire in a volatile situation.

So, while I don’t have any problem with Obama’s comment on the Ferguson matter here – I don’t think it is invalid for others to opine about it. Personally, I think the statement he made is the kind of bland non-statement that we could have hoped for from Obama. as we have seen in the past, had Obama followed his instincts, he would have made some statement encouraging the rioters and inflaming the situation.

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Fascist, nearly any policy he promotes for his crony capitalist backers, income redistribution, income inequality, Obamacare, etc. Feckless, nearly any thing he says about he ME. Stupid, nearly anything he says about any local law enforcement issue. Racist, his favorite playing card.

Keep waiting, Obama is never going to get smarter or competent. Your own that piece of crap in the WH, enjoy!

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Now you move the target because you can’t find fascist or racists comments in his Ferguson speech. And I don’t own him. I wish the man was never president and I have always voted Republican.

But your rhetoric is that of someone who can’t even think critically, because your ideology has clouded your thinking as much as Obama’s socialist/Marxist ideology has colored his thinking.

I wouldn’t want either of you in any position of authority.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Noah, why do you link nobodies from Twitter as if I should care about what they say?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Again… high school journalism at its finest.

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

And who dragged him away? And why was he dragged away? And why did he make a statement?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Uh, the media? Valerie Jarrett? Beats me.

I’d say the media. Why? It’s the media that not only stokes the racial turmoil (not that it doesn’t exist, but the media makes it worse) but incites enough people to the point where the POTUS is now expected to drop whatever he’s doing and comment on such a controversy.

Ask yourself: did the statement make a difference? Did it help calm things in Ferguson? Did it stem the outburst of heated reactions from outside of Ferguson? Heck, it seemed to have made people on both sides of the political spectrum more emboldened in their views.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

So, while I don’t have any problem with Obama’s comment on the Ferguson matter here – I don’t think it is invalid for others to opine about it. Personally, I think the statement he made is the kind of bland non-statement that we could have hoped for from Obama. as we have seen in the past, had Obama followed his instincts, he would have made some statement encouraging the rioters and inflaming the situation.

Monkeytoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM

I agree it was bland. But considering the situation, I suspect his handlers and close advisers thought it was best to keep it bland, bland and positive.

At least his general progressive ideology didn’t poke through the statements. I get tired of that.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Huh, so 0b00ba’s really a centrist, taking flack from both sides.

Thanks for the insight, I never would have arrived at that conclusion on my own.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Ask yourself: did the statement make a difference? Did it help calm things in Ferguson? Did it stem the outburst of heated reactions from outside of Ferguson? Heck, it seemed to have made people on both sides of the political spectrum more emboldened in their views.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

So now we get down to the basic question. What would you have had him say. In your perfect, everyone thinks like you world, what would you have had him say?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM


Hey HotAir, about linking to this story…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:42 AM

So the ferguson situation has been resolved by just removing the white hillbillies from being in charge.

Yazidis have been saved.

Israel and Hamas are about to come to an agreement.

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

the economy and job market are booming. Obamacare premiums have come in and are nowhere near the doomsday predictions you guys were hoping for.

check, check, check, check, check, check.

what’s next for Obama to fix for you guys?

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Honestly, are you f##king psychotic? People can be honestly mistaken about things, but you’re being deliberately ignorant.

I mean… really… WTF??

Nineball on August 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Why didn’t the idiot Police Chief release these photos to the press on Day 1?????????????????

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Really? Pray tell — what logic is it that leads from liberals and activists finding that fool’s comments “tepid” to Laura’s point being misguided? (Hint: none)

Laura’s point was that once again, here’s the current occupant of the WH weighing in on the situation when he doesn’t have the facts (how could he at this point?), putting his thumb on the scale against the police.

That he dresses it up with “no looting, guys” doesn’t change the underlying sentiment.

Has he made any comments at all — even “tepid” ones — about the violence in Chicago? Of course not…and that speaks volumes about what he really said.

EastofEden on August 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

It seems some on the left would have preferred Obama appear boiling with rage over the incident in Ferguson, and have expressed whole and total solidarity with the demonstrators over the police. That is how out of step the liberal commentariat is with their elected leadership.

Ded Pecker, you fool – you were had. Robbery. Look it up, idiot.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Obama’s speech seemed like he was just going through the motions.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

He was thinking about which club to use when he went back to the links.

txdoc on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Now you move the target because you can’t find fascist or racists comments in his Ferguson speech. And I don’t own him. I wish the man was never president and I have always voted Republican.

But your rhetoric is that of someone who can’t even think critically, because your ideology has clouded your thinking as much as Obama’s socialist/Marxist ideology has colored his thinking.

I wouldn’t want either of you in any position of authority.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

You just proved my point that you do not understand context. Let me spell it out for you: I was recommending he not talk for the next two years. I was not talking about his Ferguson comment, which was “tepid” as labeled by your progressive fellow travelers.

Because you can not admit I am right, that Obama should stfu, you try obtuse angles to deflect the conversation.

“your rhetoric is that of someone who can’t even think critically, because your ideology has clouded your thinking as much as Obama’s socialist/Marxist ideology has colored his thinking.”

That is your quote, explaining yourself to a tee. Congratulations on becoming self aware. Perhaps you could work on your ignorance next?

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM

captnjoe beat me, but he seemed more eager to crow about leaving 4500 people on a mountain.

Killing black folks and getting away with it was the way of life in America. Cops covered for you. And Cops themselves could do it and nothing would happen.

But the country has changed now. Can’t get away like they used to.

And the Racists are hopping mad.

It ain’t 1940, 1950s, good old america any more.

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Oh, you mean like Trayvon?

And this is looking more like another Trayvon?

The only way the country’s changed is a wannabe gangbanger can be made into a hero for a few weeks.

But I agree the racists, like Ned, are hopping mad. Or they will be when the investigation comes out.

formwiz on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM

I have to believe, however, that most welcomed the president’s call for calm, the mild pox he cast on both the houses in Ferguson

Yes, I really welcome the way that Obama is so measured and fair that he casts blame on and morally equalizes all parties before he has even read any facts in the newspaper.

Mr. Rothman, you would be well directed to go back to school to take a course in critical thinking before you write your next post. Otherwise you may be mistaken for a Salon.com blogger.

NOMOBO on August 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM

So now we get down to the basic question. What would you have had him say. In your perfect, everyone thinks like you world, what would you have had him say?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM

How about “Let’s wait until all of the facts have been presented to determine what happened”. He could have ended with a “Yo” if it makes you feel better Walter.

VegasRick on August 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

African-American leaders were equally disappointed with the president’s address.

Jackson and Sharkton are not “leaders”; they are agitators and s/b held to account. They support robberies.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

“most welcomed the president’s call for calm”

MOST Americans didn’t pay any attention to what Obama said. Yes, the words and demeanor were tepid. Yes, Obama could have said something much better or much worse.

You have to be a hard-core Obama supporter to believe that the continuing images of Obama momentarily interrupting his vacation, golf, and parties to listlessly stand behind a podium mumbling meaningless mush is enhancing his stature, elevating the political discourse, helping numerous trouble spots, or displaying leadership.

Obama looks and sounds like a man who neither wants nor likes responsibility.

pilsener on August 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Ruh rho…http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Hey HotAir, about linking to this story…
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Thanks for reporting …with the troll bait it got overlooked.

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Laura’s point was that once again, here’s the current occupant of the WH weighing in on the situation when he doesn’t have the facts (how could he at this point?), putting his thumb on the scale against the police.

[snip]

EastofEden on August 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

And what parts of his comments required more facts? Point them out to me.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

For most Americans, a cigar is just a cigar

Bill Clinton is an exceptional American.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

How about “Let’s wait until all of the facts have been presented to determine what happened”. He could have ended with a “Yo” if it makes you feel better Walter.

VegasRick on August 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Where in his comments did he make any determinations about what happened. Give my his specifics.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Well that sorta puts an end to that “gentle giant” and “he was turning his life” around bullshit.

He was a criminal punk.

dogsoldier on August 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM

And what parts of his comments required more facts? Point them out to me.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

The police chief of Ferguson just held a presser. Brown was part of a huge robbery and beat up the officer, who’s been in the hospital since. These are facts that the oaf in chief didn’t know…but, he had to open his stupid trap, btw. golfing and dancing…because…blacks…

Racists and morons, all of you, go to Hell.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

I worry that Obama may be successful in getting higher Democratic turnout because of Ferguson. I have wondered how much the death of Matthew Shepard helped the Democrats in 1998.

thuja on August 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM

LOLZ!

captnjoe on August 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

So now we get down to the basic question. What would you have had him say. In your perfect, everyone thinks like you world, what would you have had him say? Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Nothing. Why wouldn’t anyone want a communist Muslim dope to comment on anything?

All seriousness aside, if he has to comment on this and that, he has to comment on everything.

Has he had anything to say about Ezel Ford being shot by LA police while prone per their instructions?

Has he ever commented on the black-on-white “knockout game”? I don’t know, so I’m asking.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

How do you like that the frucking French, who don’t know where Ferguson is, and who have wild ones overturn cars, almost weekly, told their tourists “not to visit Ferguson”.

Sweep in front of your frucking doors, you ignoramuses.

I love how this case will fly all the shit into the ignorant faces, those here too.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:51 AM

If African-americans whites have it so bad, why don’t they go back to Africa Europe?

el hombre on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

See how easy that was?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Again, Obama is following Alinsky, and HotAir is clueless.

Obama thinks he is an Alinsky SuperHero.

Here is the meme – Obama saved the day with confidence and vision

The dramatic shift in protests Thursday came after Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon assigned oversight to the state Highway Patrol, stripping local police from the St. Louis County Police Department of their authority after four days of clashes with furious crowds protesting the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

“All they did was look at us and shoot tear gas,” said Pedro Smith, 41, who has participated in the nightly protests. “This is totally different. Now we’re being treated with respect.”

The more tolerant response came as President Barack Obama spoke publicly for the first time about Saturday’s fatal shooting

Here is the Alinsky playbook

The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted — a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation. Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quo’s complete collapse — to be followed by the erection of an entirely new system upon its ruins.

Toward that end, they will be apt to follow the lead of charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision, and who profess to clearly understand what types of societal “changes” are needed.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

So now we get down to the basic question.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Nothing – this is supposed to be the god-damned president of the USA and leader of the world, duhhhhhhhhh

Does he have ISIS and other threats to worry about? Duhhhhhhhhhh

If people like you ask such questions, what to expect of the Jeantels of the land?

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

So now we get down to the basic question. What would you have had him say. In your perfect, everyone thinks like you world, what would you have had him say?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM

I already gave my thoughts on what Obama could have/should have said — though I maintain that not going out to give a statement would have been better for everyone.

But if he must have said something, then it could have been… “I think it would be irresponsible to make any accusations or come away with definitive conclusions before all the facts have been made public for the people to interpret and judge for themselves.”

Throw in a sentence or two about respecting the rights of demonstrators and journalists, and another sentence or two about protesting peacefully without looting, stealing, or taking out one’s anger on innocents.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM

I did wonder about those “beats” hanging round his neck in a previous photo.

OldEnglish on August 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Now you move the target because you can’t find fascist or racists comments in his Ferguson speech. Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

He told the police to calm down. Does he want them to quell riots with less alacrity?

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:54 AM

That poor innocent boy was a robbery suspect. They need to arrest his side-kick who has been all over the TV proclaiming how innocent this all was.

Charge him for not only making false statements, but include inciting riots to his charges.

Tater Salad on August 15, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Ingraham added that the president’s record on race is checked,

Checkered. Spell check is yor frend.

Nutstuyu on August 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Where in his comments did he make any determinations about what happened. Give my his specifics.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Here’s a start

There’s also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights. And here in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground.

VegasRick on August 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Racists and morons, all of you, go to Hell.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM

I will ask you the same thing, and maybe you can grace me with a little detail. What was it about Obama’s tepid, generalized statements required more facts in order for him to have made those exact comments?

What parts of his comments were a lie? What part of his comments didn’t “jive” with the facts as know at the moment he made the comments?

Maybe Bush should have waited until ALL the facts were in about 9/11 before he ever opened his mouth about anything.

I don’t like Obama, but some of you folks are looking mighty foolish right now.

Fine, if you just want to rag on for the sake of ragging, then you’re doing a fine job.

But if you are trying to pass some of this off as intelligent debate, well, it appears that some of Libfree’s style has rubbed off on some of you.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Has 0b00ba commented on this?

Should he?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM

My dog could have made that Obama statement…
PatriotRider on August 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Obama would eat your dog before it had the chance to issue a statement.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Here’s a start

There’s also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights. And here in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground.

VegasRick on August 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Sorry Vegas… those were know facts. Whether you agree with his take on it, they were known facts. Read some of my other comments above and put the logic stream together. Try again.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Has 0b00ba commented on this?

Should he?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Deflection is not working, we are talking about Ferguson and Obama’s comments on 8-14.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Sorry Vegas… those were know facts. Whether you agree with his take on it, they were known facts. Read some of my other comments above and put the logic stream together. Try again.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:58 AM

I think I’ll pass on that. Your “known facts” statement is just not true.

VegasRick on August 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM

I’m from the Czech Republic, I’m still trying to understand Americans. Walter L. Newton on July 14, 2014 at 11:28 AM

You sure do seem to comment forcefully on public policy issues in the US, given your admitted lack of understanding of Americans.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 11:03 AM

20 miles from Ferguson. Where was the outrage , rioting and looting?

Two charged in Megan Boken’s murder in Central West End

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-charged-in-megan-boken-s-murder-in-central-west/article_d20ea64a-ee07-11e1-8043-001a4bcf6878.html

sirpatrick on August 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Deflection is not working, we are talking about Ferguson and Obama’s comments on 8-14. Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

How am I deflecting?

We are discussing what it is appropriate for the president to comment on, so I asked if he should comment on identical issues, and similar issues.

Just trying to figure out where you, with all of your Czechy wisdom, would draw the line for POTUS.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 11:05 AM

Chicago Communists, New Black Panthers Infiltrate #Ferguson Riots (Photos-Video)

How many bodies did they have to step over in Chicago to get to Ferguson?

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 11:07 AM

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