Ferguson police identify officer in Michael Brown shooting

posted at 10:41 am on August 15, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

The Ferguson police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen, whose death set off a riot and then a tense standoff with police in the St. Louis suburb. The shooter was Officer Darren Wilson, a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force, who was treated for injuries and has not — as yet — been considered the target of a criminal investigation. However, the police also released the report of the incident, which stated that Brown himself was considered the prime suspect in another crime:

The police officer who fatally shot unarmed teen Michael Brown, prompting days of unrest in Ferguson, Missouri and rallies nationwide, has been identified as Darren Wilson.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson made the announcement Friday morning, having previously refused citing concerns over the officer’s safety.

Jackson said that Wilson had been an officer in the force for six years and no disciplinary action was taken against him. Wilson was treated for injuries after the shooting, Jackson said.

According to the police report, this incident may have been the consequence of an earlier strong-arm robbery. Another Ferguson police officer had been investigating a strong-arm robbery at a convenience store and had seen several angles from the store’s surveillance cameras of the suspects. The officer identified Brown as the primary suspect, and the witness to the shooting that has been talking with the media about those circumstances as Brown’s suspected partner in the robbery. Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly captured the report page in this tweet:

It is worth remembering that this incident is related to another incident detailed under Ferguson Police Report #2014-12391 as well as St. Louis County Police Report #2014-43984. In that incident, Brown was fatally wounded involving an office of this department. I responded to that scene and observed Brown. After viewing Brown and reviewing this video, I was able to confirm that Brown is the primary suspect in this incident. A second person, also at that scene, identified himself as being with Brown. That person was later identified as Dorian Johnson. After observing Johnson and reviewing the video, I confirmed that he is the second suspect in this incident.

That was the investigating officer’s opinion, not an adjudicated fact — but it does suggest why a confrontation between Brown, Johnson, and the police may have escalated quickly. Reilly also tweeted four pictures from the camera system in the report:

Reilly was one of the two journalists arrested on Wednesday night in Ferguson. Wesley Lowery of the Washington Post is the other, and is also tweeting from the same report. Lowery notes here that the convenience store was a Quik Trip:

One Quik Trip was destroyed in the riot that led to the police response this week. There may be more than one Quik Trip in Ferguson, but if it’s the same one that burned this week, it would be a very strange coincidence.

The police didn’t have much else to say, which made some residents angry — but not all that many, Lowery reports:

Today’s reveal raises all sorts of questions, not the least of which is why the Ferguson PD didn’t release the information about the Quik Trip robbery sooner. It doesn’t justify shooting an unarmed man in the back as he’s running away if that’s actually what happened, but that claim came from the man who is a suspected accomplice in the earlier robbery — and would explain why the police officer might have taken an interest in Brown and Johnson in the first place. Assuming that the officer investigating the strong-arm robbery is correct in identifying Brown and Johnson, it calls into question the entire narrative of the shooting that has been provided mainly by Johnson himself.

If the Ferguson police had been more forthcoming about the incident up front, much of this week’s drama might have been avoided, or at least somewhat mitigated.

Update: Expect this to come up a lot in the days ahead:

If Brown and Johnson were fleeing from a felony theft, the shooting may have been justified under Missouri law — which may explain why the police handed out the report on the strong-arm robbery. But they still have not released the report on the shooting itself, and it doesn’t explain why it took six days to get around to discussing the robbery.


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novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Good.

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I actually put that question earlier: Does anyone here believe that the store clerk, had be been armed, would have shot someone over a package of cigar wrappers who was assaulting him?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM

It seems to me the question comes down to whether the final shots which killed Brown were justified.

tarheelkate on August 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM

The only question now is why anyone cares whether a convenience store robber was justifiably shot.

Immolate on August 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Does anyone here believe that the store clerk, had be been armed, would have shot someone over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Yup. If some big thug wants to have a go at slapping me around and I’m carrying, it wouldn’t end well for him.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Okay, I no longer am in last place of being the least funny commenter. Nice try at comedy, but Bud-Light, that was lame.

I do feel for you as being behind an old guy like me…..stinks. Butt sniffing by proxy I think they call it. Chuckle.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 1:38 PM

CW on August 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM

This one is worse than ISIS. They’d just chop a limb off. This one wants capital punishment.

How does it feel to know that ISIS is more moral than you?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:38 PM

CREATION CLO. ‏@CREVTION 43m

@OpFerguson Here in kenosha, WI we support the movement. All minorities are getting together for the cause. #OpFerguson

Tené Newman ‏@Tene_Newman 1h

These people need to get off their soap box and ask the real question. When will the officer be charged with murder? #OpFerguson

#MikeBrown

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I actually put that question earlier: Does anyone here believe that the store clerk, had be been armed, would have shot someone over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

We don’t know what he would have done. But given the fact that I am SHORTER THAN MOST people, and if someone comes up and chokes me– you are DAMN RIGHT I WOULD SHOOT THE PERSON WHO WAS CHOKING ME. SO who knows what the man who WAS A FOOT SHORTER than the man who was CHOKING him would have done had he had a gun would have done.. The stealing of fvcking cigars are a non-starter…

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I also like how the number of shots fired by the police officer has gone down from 37 to….7.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM

CNN: The network of black holes swallowing missing jets.

Bitter Clinger on August 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Hey now! I already hit that one! ;)

Did you read the last part of Ed’s post?

CW on August 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I think he’s positing a what-should-be, not what-is-currently-legal.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

The only question now is why anyone cares whether a convenience store robber was justifiably shot.

Immolate on August 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Too bad, in a way, that the clerk didn’t take him out instead – it’s expected that a robber is probably going to be shot sooner or later.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

A guy kills someone, and then takes his shoes. They’re just shoes, and, …

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 1:13 PM

But…Brown didn’t kill anybody. You see how you can’t sell this as a justified use of deadly force without pretending that Brown did something other than what he is alleged to have done?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

It’s starting to sink into me that you’re not a deep thinker. I was discussing aspects of what constitutes felony robbery, and, as you minimized the robbery in the convenience store, I pointed out (somewhat metaphorically) robbery that results in a capital murder charge (the shoe example) can be minimized in the same way, just as you were doing, but it’s still the law, and there’s a good reason the law is the way it is.

By the way, we don’t know what Brown did that got him killed. There needs to be an investigation.

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I am at work and don’t have a tv here. Just curious, now that their template has been blown out of the water has the msm moved onto something else? Are they trying to salvage their bad reporting? Has anyone apologized for jumping the gun before knowing the facts and now are accurately trying to portray this incident?

Ellis on August 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Did you read the last part of Ed’s post?

CW on August 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Yes, and I already knew that cops have the legal right to shoot a felony suspect fleeing the scene. But the reports are that Brown had stopped and raised his hands at the time of the shooting, so he was not fleeing at that point (if the reports are accurate, which they may not be).

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

You’re really slow. You don’t even get the most basic points. You’re the one excusing crimes based on the minimal value of the property stolen through violence. You really cannot be this dense..no way.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM

What are you talking about dude? Brown didn’t physically-assault assault the store owner.

You know if the cop had just taken the time to call in and find out that Brown only choked the store owner and tossed him around like a rag doll instead of beating him to a bloody pulp…then none of this would have happened.

Can’t a guy just get his blunts in peace?

Good god the choom heads here are fukking idiots.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

How does it feel to know that ISIS is more moral than you?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:38 PM

More moral?

kcewa on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Getting physical with an office is not automatically assault. The pig will generally charge you with assault, but if the detainment was illegal, if the pig is acting under color of law, or if you feel your life is in jeopardy, you have an absolute right to fight back against an aggressive and or abusive officer. If they end up killing you, they would still be unjustified and it would not matter that they claimed you “assaulted” them if you were legally defending yourself against unlawful police action.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

The Pig? Umm, we call that bias, and as such would throw out your complete testimony. That means that anything your say is not taken seriously. Yep, no more debating with you. It means that you cannot look at the incident without prejudice. Thank your for playing, but you are dismissed from the jury pool, sir..

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM

stuart rhinehart ‏@swrr88 1h

Missouri State Police Captain Johnson is an impressive man. You can see he’s a leader. The Missouri governor…not so much. #Ferguson

Brenda ‏@BrendaLee2014 1h

The Governor does not need to be speaking, doesn’t seem in touch with the crowd. Give the mic to Capt. Johnson #ferguson

Shawn Cooper ‏@SECoop3013 1h

Why does it seem like everything went downhill after Governor Jay Nixon took the microphone back from Ron Johnson? #Ferguson #MikeBrown

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM

And for the record, I think Mumia is right where he belongs.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 1:10 PM

.
Better where he is now, than on the street, for sure.
.
Personally, I believe he belongs in the graveyard.

listens2glenn on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM

We have at one extreme an innocent young black man murdered by a policeman, and the other the perpetrator of several violent felonies in the space of an hour or so shot fleeing the scene of the latest violent felony.

The problem for the butt-hurt squealers is that the release of the robbery video shifts the probabilities strongly in the latter direction.

I would point out that had the elderly store owner been armed and shot this thug dead as while being choked and assaulted it would have been justifiable homicide in self-defense.

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

I also like how the number of shots fired by the police officer has gone down from 37 to….7.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM

THIRTY-SEVEN?!? That was the claim at some point? Holy moley! Even with one of those evil 20-round magazine-clip things he would have to have reloaded at least once!

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Getting physical with an office is not automatically assault. The pig will generally charge you with assault, but if the detainment was illegal, if the pig is acting under color of law, or if you feel your life is in jeopardy, you have an absolute right to fight back against an aggressive and or abusive officer. If they end up killing you, they would still be unjustified and it would not matter that they claimed you “assaulted” them if you were legally defending yourself against unlawful police action.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I believe that getting physical with an office is property damage. Also, I’ve been charged by a pig before, and let me tell you that that it is always assault when a pig charges you. Finally, I don’t think that pigs, as bacon-bearing animals, are familiar with subtle legal concepts, or capable of discerning justified vs. unjustified deadly force. Pigs tend to think in terms of roots and grubs, and whether you are between them and said roots and grubs. I’m not sure what aggressive or abusive officers have to do with charging pigs. All I can say is, watch out for the tusks.

Immolate on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM

the reports are that Brown had stopped and raised his hands at the time of the shooting, so he was not fleeing at that point (if the reports are accurate, which they may not be).

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

The only other person who could give a report (singular) would also be his alleged partner in crime.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM

How does it feel to know that ISIS is more moral than you?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:38 PM

How does it feel to be the biggest moron on the internet right now?

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

I actually drove my BMW Civic to a steak lunch Taco Bell and now am back at work in my mom’s basement finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company this.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

nico on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Be sure to let us know if you spot any ISIS members there.

Or jock sniffers.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I hope no one is taking this person’s legal advice seriously, because he/she could not be more wrong.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

CNN is having a mild melt down…

d1carter on August 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

My brother-in-law–Illinois State Police.

My wife–Delaware State Police.

If you know how little it bothers then to be called “pig” … .

My wife and my sister collect pig stuff.

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

You tell them, Master Shake!

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I would point out that had the elderly store owner been armed and shot this thug dead as while being choked and assaulted it would have been justifiable homicide in self-defense.

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

As I mentioned, it likely wouldn’t be as big a deal either. Being a robber means you’re taking that risk.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

CNN is having a mild melt down…

d1carter on August 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM

CNN is saying the police officer has a clean record.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

He also assaulted the clerk.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Assault + theft = robbery

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery
Wikipedia
At common law, robbery is defined as taking the property of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the person of that property, by means of force or fear.

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM

I guess I should have said he committed and act of assault and battery on the clerk.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

If you are a photo-shopper, I’m sure you’ll appreciate the challenge of shopping those pictures: not impossible, but difficult.

Immolate on August 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM

That’s why it took 5 days, man! /s

I saw on the one guy’s twitter thread the claim that the man in the video stills is not dressed the same as the Mr Brown who was shot dead. I haven’t seen anyone make a big deal of how Mr Brown was dressed at the time of the police stop – has it been published? Was he in shorts and a tee?

(I don’t think the same guy is claiming it was photoshopped. That would be even too much for anybody here except maybe KochOnYourBrain.)

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Wikipedia
At common law, robbery is defined as taking the property of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the person of that property, by means of force or fear. LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Yeah but he might have been just forcibly borrowing those cigars.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 1:49 PM

the reports are that Brown had stopped and raised his hands at the time of the shooting, so he was not fleeing at that point (if the reports are accurate, which they may not be).

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

If he wasn’t obeying the officers it doesn’t matter that his hands were raised. Raised hands don’t mean he’s under control.

kcewa on August 15, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I hope no one is taking this person’s legal advice seriously, because he/she could not be more wrong.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

You mean to say someone who’s handle is “Aquateen Hungerforce” might not be a reliable source as a legal scholar?

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:50 PM

One Quik Trip was destroyed in the riot that led to the police response this week. There may be more than one Quik Trip in Ferguson, but if it’s the same one that burned this week, it would be a very strange coincidence.

In case no one else has mentioned it, according to Mike Tobin with Fox News, the store that was destroyed is not the same store where the strong armed robbery occurred. He reported they are about a half mile apart.

ladyingray on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

That’s why it took 5 days, man! /s

I saw on the one guy’s twitter thread the claim that the man in the video stills is not dressed the same as the Mr Brown who was shot dead. I haven’t seen anyone make a big deal of how Mr Brown was dressed at the time of the police stop – has it been published? Was he in shorts and a tee?

(I don’t think the same guy is claiming it was photoshopped. That would be even too much for anybody here except maybe KochOnYourBrain.)

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Ned’s already made the claim that it was faked. He’s off now scouring the internet for “proof”.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

The only other person who could give a report (singular) would also be his alleged partner in crime.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I thought there was one other eyewitness, a woman pedestrian who claimed to have seen what happened. The article said she recorded events (on her phone, or something) after the shooting, but that she also claimed to have witnessed the shooting. Is that not true?

I agree that the fellow who apparently robbed the store with Brown is not a terribly credible source for information about what happened, for all the obvious reasons. I am more interested in knowing what the cop put in his incident report about what happened.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/color_of_law

You are dumb. :)

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Browns family following what the protesters are outraged about……feels like trayvon part deux

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The reports of Brown having his hands up come straight from the alleged co-perp in the alleged robbery, Dorian Johnson.

Narrative toothpaste, meet tube.

Missy on August 15, 2014 at 1:53 PM

I would point out that had the elderly store owner been armed and shot this thug dead as while being choked and assaulted it would have been justifiable homicide in self-defense.

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Occupational hazard. OHSA will chime in.

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:53 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Better than that, by far.

Sorry to see that you consider that a “fascinating day”.

kcewa on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I hope the pigs in your family haven’t shot anyone today.

Do they sleep well at night, knowing that they couldn’t get a real job and only do what they do because they are black hearted petty tyrants?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Immolate on August 15, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Would it be too much to call him a boar bore boor?

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

In case no one else has mentioned it, according to Mike Tobin with Fox News, the store that was destroyed is not the same store where the strong armed robbery occurred. He reported they are about a half mile apart.

ladyingray on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Sounds like the looters and rioters who set out to “send a message” got the wrong store, most likely.

Missy on August 15, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Ned’s already made the claim that it was faked. He’s off now scouring the internet for “proof”.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Well, at least that will keep him busy all day.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 1:56 PM

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/color_of_law

You are dumb. :)

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:52 PM

I’ll see your “color of law and raise you http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime/

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Live like a thug – die like a thug.

tommyboy on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

If he wasn’t obeying the officers it doesn’t matter that his hands were raised. Raised hands don’t mean he’s under control.

kcewa on August 15, 2014 at 1:50 PM

I’m not making excuses for Brown, and I certainly understand that the officer may have been justifiably in fear of him. Brown was huge, and he was obviously aggressive, and the officer had every reason to want to make sure Brown could not attack him again. But if (and it’s a big if) Brown was as far away from the officer as has been reported, and if he had his hands raised and was not moving, then shooting him repeatedly seems to be unnecessary. But again, we don’t know the facts, and they will probably turn out to be a lot different than what the initial reports claimed.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

And for the record, I think Mumia is right where he belongs.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 1:10 PM

.
Better where he is now, than on the street, for sure.
.
Personally, I believe he belongs in the graveyard.

listens2glenn on August 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Maybe.
But I’m opposed to that.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I hope the pigs in your family haven’t shot anyone today.

Do they sleep well at night, knowing that they couldn’t get a real job and only do what they do because they are black hearted petty tyrants?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Poor little poofter, did the mean old policemen arrest you for being a choomhead or just for being a scumbag piece of shit?

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Raising your hands is the universal sign of surrender
-wolfie

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Second, are you saying a rancher not paying his land usage fees and being pushed off of land because of tortoises (while the Reid family arranges for their crony supporters to violate the sacred tortoise habitat) is the same as assault and robbery and a cop shooting someone in self defense?

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM

No. I’m saying they’re different. Different in ways which suggest a fundamental inconsistency in the thinking on display here.

Incidentally, we know that there was a self-defense element to the shooting now? This is from the same police department that charged an innocent man they had gang-stomped with vandalism for getting blood on their uniforms? is it also now being reported that Brown could shoot bullets from his index finger?

Someone upthread suggested that if it turns out that Brown was shot at a distance, in the back, after he ceased resisting, a serious investigation is warranted, and that sounds reasonable. But I’m not so certain that a finding of that scenario to be accurate would effect the disposition of the HA crowd towards either the officer or Brown. I think the discussion would shift only slightly from why the officer might have been justified in the shooting to why we should all cut officers some slack in light of the psychological traumas police suffer in the course of policing black people in their natural habitats.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

I thought there was one other eyewitness, a woman pedestrian who claimed to have seen what happened. The article said she recorded events (on her phone, or something) after the shooting, but that she also claimed to have witnessed the shooting. Is that not true?
AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

AFAIK she did a TV interview, but is not a “legal” eyewitness. Also it took a long time for her to come forward as an “eyewitness”, which also makes things a bit dicey.

There were people hanging around after the shooting, but that’s pretty much meaningless legally – as is any phonecam video of the aftermath. It’s like recording the destruction left by a tornado but having missed recording the tornado itself.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.

How is your fascinating day going, pig jock sniffer?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Driving a 1977 BMW and eating minute steaks for lunch isn’t something to be proud of.

RickB on August 15, 2014 at 2:01 PM

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

What’s a poofter?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Raising your hands is the universal sign of surrender
-wolfie

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM

What about grabbing a 5 foot 2 clerk by the throat?

MSNBC calls it a scuffle.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM

They’re showing the video of the robbery but why doesn’t somebody just ask the clerk for an ID of the suspect – either way?

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 2:03 PM

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I hope the pigs in your family haven’t shot anyone today.

Do they sleep well at night, knowing that they couldn’t get a real job and only do what they do because they are black hearted petty tyrants?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

(Troll got trolled.)

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 2:03 PM

RickB on August 15, 2014 at 2:01 PM

It is a bit old, but ’77? Are there cars that old still on the road? And if that was a minute steak I’ll eat ‘em every day of the year. Delicious!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 2:03 PM

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I agree with what you’re saying.

kcewa on August 15, 2014 at 2:04 PM

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 2:03 PM

No problem.

Seriously though, please tell the pigs in your family they don’t have to kill people. There are other ways to do things. They don’t have to be part of the problem.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM

The Daily Edge ‏@TheDailyEdge 1m

Hobby Lobby asks #Ferguson PD for clarification: “We thought chopping off someone’s hand was the maximum penalty for shoplifting”

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I actually drove my BMW to a steak lunch and now am back at work finishing a presentation for a Fortune 50 company.
Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I’m the King of Prussia, glad to meet ya! We have any five-star generals hereabouts to join in the greetings?

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Why is nothing reported when a cop kills a white guy? Or a black man kills a white man? People are sick of the race card being played constantly

Respect the police and when you don’t expect consequences

It’s not rocket science

Black on black crime is totally out of control in this country and the media continues to cover it up. Not a peep

Redford on August 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Not concerned by moral judgments from a malicious fool who refers to the police generally as “pigs”…

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM

CNN reporting the new black police captain has just announced there will be no charges filed against Dorian Johnson (who was with Brown at the convenience store). Says no crime was committed.

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Sounds like the looters and rioters who set out to “send a message” got the wrong store, most likely. Missy on August 15, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Aquateen and his bros not known for their tactical acumen.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM

CNN reporting Brown’s family accuse the MO PD of trying to ‘assassinate’ their son’s character by releasing ‘alleged’ photos of him robbing the convenience store.

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 2:09 PM

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davidk on August 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Someone upthread suggested that if it turns out that Brown was shot at a distance, in the back, after he ceased resisting, a serious investigation is warranted, and that sounds reasonable. But I’m not so certain that a finding of that scenario to be accurate would effect the disposition of the HA crowd towards either the officer or Brown. I think the discussion would shift only slightly from why the officer might have been justified in the shooting to why we should all cut officers some slack in light of the psychological traumas police suffer in the course of policing black people in their natural habitats.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

And if it turns out that wasn’t the case and that this 290lb, 6’5′ suspected thief DID fight with the cop, DID try and take his gun, DID get shot at close range are you going to stop harping about how “Brown wasn’t armed?”

katiejane on August 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Pyke later apologized for his Tweet. Del Dolemonte on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Yeah but there it is, in his permanent record.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM

davidk on August 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I hope the pigs in your family haven’t shot anyone today.

Do they sleep well at night, knowing that they couldn’t get a real job and only do what they do because they are black hearted petty tyrants?

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

2 quick questions:

1. Why do you call law enforcement officers “pigs”? Are you an old hippie from the 1960s?

2. Since when is a profession where the average law enforcement officer’s salary is nearly $80,000 a year (in New Jersey) and over $100,000 a year (in San Francisco) not a “real job”? NYPD cops average $90,000 a year as well.

Take your time.

(Starts another 10 acre field of sundials)

Del Dolemonte on August 15, 2014 at 2:12 PM

And if it turns out that wasn’t the case and that this 290lb, 6’5′ suspected thief DID fight with the cop, DID try and take his gun, DID get shot at close range are you going to stop harping about how “Brown wasn’t armed?” katiejane on August 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Sean Hannity: Either a shot was fired from inside the police officer’s car or it was not.

Chief Jackson: It was, yes.

Hannity: Do we know for a fact then, so there was a struggle for the gun then?

Jackson: It is a fact…

Hannity: …Then are you convinced that the officer involved in the shooting was in department guidelines in protecting himself?

Jackson: I can’t answer that until I have the report from the county.

Hannity: But you are convinced that an altercation occurred and a shot was fired within the car, meaning Mr. Brown was in the car at some point?

Jackson: He was, he was. Yes.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

CNN reporting the new black police captain has just announced there will be no charges filed against Dorian Johnson (who was with Brown at the convenience store). Says no crime was committed.

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM

No crime was committed at all, not even by Brown? Or no crime was committed by Johnson?

Missy on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

It’s starting to sink into me that you’re not a deep thinker. I was discussing aspects of what constitutes felony robbery, and, as you minimized the robbery in the convenience store, I pointed out (somewhat metaphorically) robbery that results in a capital murder charge (the shoe example) can be minimized in the same way, just as you were doing, but it’s still the law, and there’s a good reason the law is the way it is.

By the way, we don’t know what Brown did that got him killed. There needs to be an investigation.

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM

No, I know: I was talking about what actually happened, and you’re among those who want to obscure what actually happened behind the text of the law.

Your analogy didn’t minimize, it widely exaggerated. Brown got into a scuffle over a $1.85 item in which fists weren’t even flung and your argument appears to be that, since “assault” can describe anything from spitting at a person to beating them to within an inch of their lives, we should proceed as if Brown had murdered the store clerk.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Smells like teen spirit.

(h/t Nirvana)

tanked59 on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Hopefully they’ll provide something before Michelle Malkin manages to find some gansta pic to put up at Twitchy…
verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Ever the factually-challenged, aren’t you:

Michelle Malkin Laughs at Liberal Tweets All the Way to the Bank
The Atlantic Wire
By Philip Bump December 10, 2013 4:41 PM

Congratulations to conservative commentator Michelle Malkin, who sold her look-what-liberals-said-on-Twitter site Twitchy.com to the same company that she sold HotAir.com to in 2010. It’s only fitting that we celebrate the sale by collecting angry and mocking tweets from liberals, in true Twitchy fashion…

http://news.yahoo.com/michelle-malkin-laughs-liberal-tweets-way-bank-214136677.html

[passes plate of crow to the HA Troll Du Jour...condiments and entreching tools not available...]

Newtie and the Beauty on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

I’m the King of Prussia, glad to meet ya! We have any five-star generals hereabouts to join in the greetings?

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM

No military expertise here. But does Oprah’s ghost writer count…?

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Not concerned by moral judgments from a malicious fool who refers to the police generally as “pigs”…

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Once he finishes his presentation, he’s gonna race home in his beemer just in time to catch re-runs of “Mod Squad.”

Far out, man.

Anyone else picturing a gray ponytail, black socks and sandals?

CurtZHP on August 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Keep spinning. Everyone already knows you’re an idiot.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I think the discussion would shift only slightly from why the officer might have been justified in the shooting to why we should all cut officers some slack in light of the psychological traumas police suffer in the course of policing black people in their natural habitats.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

No, it wouldn’t. Most of us are saying let the DAMN investigation happen. It is PEOPLE LIKE YOU are jumping to conclusions by saying he shouldn’t have been shot for stealing cigars when we know for a fact that that isn’t remotely the only thing that happened. He also AT LEAST ASSAULTED THE CLERK. Let this all play out, and give the cop the benefit of the doubt, and let him be innocent until proven guilty, since he seems to be put on trial even though he was doing his job.

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Guess, you didn’t bother to actual reading about what happened or looked at the actual physical evidence and testimony as to what happened.

Robbery is the crime of taking or attempting to take something of value by force or threat of force or by putting the victim in fear. At common law, robbery is defined as taking the property of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the person of that property, by means of force or fear.

You’re not much of a lawyer jimbo3. Just another ignorant coward that shows his stupidity every time he posts.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Except here it looks like he shoved the owner out of the way AFTER the robbery. (And I doubt the cop knew about the shove when he tried to arrest the kid).

jim56 on August 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Oh, and BTW, funny how you backed away from the “he just stole some cigar” claim..

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

eh doesn’t care about the assault- that is clear. eh’s an ass hole.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

No crime was committed at all, not even by Brown? Or no crime was committed by Johnson?

Missy on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

They just forgot to pay the clerk, I guess.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Your analogy didn’t minimize, it widely exaggerated. Brown got into a scuffle over a $1.85 item in which fists weren’t even flung and your argument appears to be that, since “assault” can describe anything from spitting at a person to beating them to within an inch of their lives, we should proceed as if Brown had murdered the store clerk.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

So how should the cops have proceeded?

Tell the store owner who was assaulted (if you actually bothered to look at the fukking video tape) to just rub some dirt in it? Not to get all pressed cause hey, the item was only worth $1.85.

Seriously, you’re a gd moron.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM

You are dumb. :)

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Here is your original comment, as nonsensical as it is:

Getting physical with an office is not automatically assault. The pig will generally charge you with assault, but if the detainment was illegal, if the pig is acting under color of law, or if you feel your life is in jeopardy, you have an absolute right to fight back against an aggressive and or abusive officer. If they end up killing you, they would still be unjustified and it would not matter that they claimed you “assaulted” them if you were legally defending yourself against unlawful police action.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

First you claim that “getting physical” with a cop is not assault. In fact, any unauthorized touching of his person would be an assault. Next you claim that “if the detainment was illegal or if the pig is acting under color of law” then you have the right to fight the cop. That is ludicrous. If you assaulted the cop, then the detainment was not illegal because you assaulted him. And of course if the cop arrested you for assaulting him, he was obviously acting under color of law. You would have no legal right to fight him, no matter how “unjustified” you believed his actions were.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. You can call me any names you please, but I’m done responding to you. Arguing with idiots is a waste of time.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Jim so did an assault happen or not? Lawyer my ass. In fact my ass is more a lawyer than you are though it shits less.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Please don’t rob me……

tommyboy on August 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Says you.
I certainly have far less of an opinion of George Zimmerman than many here – and don’t support the cartoonish caricature of Travon Martin sold and embraced by many here – but I fully supported that verdict in that trial.
And for the record, I think Mumia is right where he belongs.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Wrong. Mumia should have been executed

Conservative4Ever on August 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Your analogy didn’t minimize, it widely exaggerated. Brown got into a scuffle over a $1.85 item in which fists weren’t even flung and your argument appears to be that, since “assault” can describe anything from spitting at a person to beating them to within an inch of their lives, we should proceed as if Brown had murdered the store clerk.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 2:13 PM

We don’t proceed as if Brown did anything. People like you are alleging that the cop is guilty. Therefore we proceed as if the cop has all the legal protections of someone in our criminal justice sytem which is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 2:19 PM

ou clearly have no clue what you are talking about. You can call me any names you please, but I’m done responding to you. Arguing with idiots is a waste of time.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Aqua is definitely in the top 5 of the most ignorant posters to grace these pages.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 2:20 PM

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