Ferguson police identify officer in Michael Brown shooting

posted at 10:41 am on August 15, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

The Ferguson police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen, whose death set off a riot and then a tense standoff with police in the St. Louis suburb. The shooter was Officer Darren Wilson, a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force, who was treated for injuries and has not — as yet — been considered the target of a criminal investigation. However, the police also released the report of the incident, which stated that Brown himself was considered the prime suspect in another crime:

The police officer who fatally shot unarmed teen Michael Brown, prompting days of unrest in Ferguson, Missouri and rallies nationwide, has been identified as Darren Wilson.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson made the announcement Friday morning, having previously refused citing concerns over the officer’s safety.

Jackson said that Wilson had been an officer in the force for six years and no disciplinary action was taken against him. Wilson was treated for injuries after the shooting, Jackson said.

According to the police report, this incident may have been the consequence of an earlier strong-arm robbery. Another Ferguson police officer had been investigating a strong-arm robbery at a convenience store and had seen several angles from the store’s surveillance cameras of the suspects. The officer identified Brown as the primary suspect, and the witness to the shooting that has been talking with the media about those circumstances as Brown’s suspected partner in the robbery. Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly captured the report page in this tweet:

It is worth remembering that this incident is related to another incident detailed under Ferguson Police Report #2014-12391 as well as St. Louis County Police Report #2014-43984. In that incident, Brown was fatally wounded involving an office of this department. I responded to that scene and observed Brown. After viewing Brown and reviewing this video, I was able to confirm that Brown is the primary suspect in this incident. A second person, also at that scene, identified himself as being with Brown. That person was later identified as Dorian Johnson. After observing Johnson and reviewing the video, I confirmed that he is the second suspect in this incident.

That was the investigating officer’s opinion, not an adjudicated fact — but it does suggest why a confrontation between Brown, Johnson, and the police may have escalated quickly. Reilly also tweeted four pictures from the camera system in the report:

Reilly was one of the two journalists arrested on Wednesday night in Ferguson. Wesley Lowery of the Washington Post is the other, and is also tweeting from the same report. Lowery notes here that the convenience store was a Quik Trip:

One Quik Trip was destroyed in the riot that led to the police response this week. There may be more than one Quik Trip in Ferguson, but if it’s the same one that burned this week, it would be a very strange coincidence.

The police didn’t have much else to say, which made some residents angry — but not all that many, Lowery reports:

Today’s reveal raises all sorts of questions, not the least of which is why the Ferguson PD didn’t release the information about the Quik Trip robbery sooner. It doesn’t justify shooting an unarmed man in the back as he’s running away if that’s actually what happened, but that claim came from the man who is a suspected accomplice in the earlier robbery — and would explain why the police officer might have taken an interest in Brown and Johnson in the first place. Assuming that the officer investigating the strong-arm robbery is correct in identifying Brown and Johnson, it calls into question the entire narrative of the shooting that has been provided mainly by Johnson himself.

If the Ferguson police had been more forthcoming about the incident up front, much of this week’s drama might have been avoided, or at least somewhat mitigated.

Update: Expect this to come up a lot in the days ahead:

If Brown and Johnson were fleeing from a felony theft, the shooting may have been justified under Missouri law — which may explain why the police handed out the report on the strong-arm robbery. But they still have not released the report on the shooting itself, and it doesn’t explain why it took six days to get around to discussing the robbery.


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[Pork-Chop on August 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM]

It’s always nice to see a blog doing some real reporting, not just regurgitating stuff from the news media. Another good job by Gateway Pundit.

Dusty on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Why should I ‘crack down’ on them? You assume we’re all fully aligned?
You don’t say much when I get called a ‘racist’ (or a ‘race pimp’).
I get called that for ever entertaining the idea of race as a factor is various incidents or issues.
But I don’t accuse people of this.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM

I didn’t speak up for you when you were called a racist. I don’t hink you’re a racist so it’s unfair for me to expect you to police your own side.

However, when you’re doling out criticism of conservatives and libertarians in these threads you could also throw something in for your fellow lefties who are nuts.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

For some comic relief, someone on Twitter posted a photo of the Barnes & Noble store in Ferguson. Totally untouched by looters/vandals. Not a scratch.

Guess reading/books just aren’t their ‘thang’.

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

If Brown also made a move for Officer Wilson’s weapon, then the shooting was justified. The Ferguson Chief of Police has stated that happened, but we haven’t seen the actual report of the shooting yet.

TarheelBen on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

So, lemme get this straight. As the murderer who killed Brown was murdering him, he had no idea that Brown may have had an altercation at a Quick Stop earlier in the day, had no reason to suspect Brown had committed any crime, and put a bunch of bullets in him.

Also, I am failing to see how taking a box of Swisher Sweets (if Brown actually took them without paying) is strong arm robbery and not petty theft.

But, hey, I’m sure by the time the report of the shooting is released, the police will have found all sorts of drugs in Brown’s system, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he was on the grassy knoll, and may have been linked to al Qaida.

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Am I supposed to be persuaded by the idea that alleged robbery is justification for murder without trial? That’s meant to convince anyone that Browns killing was justified? If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

factfreeordie strikes again!

All you’ve got is The Narrative.

You don’t have any facts. You don’t have anything of substance.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

The QuikMart report is dated same day as the incident.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Er… maybe because it happened the same day? Unless I’m reading that report wrong?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Yes.
Was responding to the suggestion that ‘if it took a week for that report, they need much much longer’ for a shooting report.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Am I supposed to be persuaded by the idea that alleged robbery is justification for murder without trial? That’s meant to convince anyone that Browns killing was justified? If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Good one! I guess that was the best you could come up with under the circumstances.

But, no, what people are saying is that it probably wasn’t murder. That might be jumping to conclusions, but it’s the result of a long and well-established line of race hoaxes.

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Do you think a person is justified in trying to take away a cop’s gun and kill him with it is OK because they are black?

Bottom line..for you…the race of the “victim” takes precedence over any actions that “victim” may have taken that led to his own demise.

Be honest, if this was a white kid that was shot you would be silent.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Bump…because…it’s needed.

Am I supposed to be persuaded by the idea that alleged robbery is justification for murder without trial? That’s meant to convince anyone that Browns killing was justified? If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

No. An honest and open minded person would be persuaded to now wait for all the facts to come in. I am fine with you demanding faster answers, but “typing murder without trial” show a shallow mind when it comes to the rule of law.

Hey, hope all is well and school should start soon.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Good lord, you’re a moron. Obviously, too stupid to even keep up with the latest developments.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Be honest, if this was a white kid that was shot you would be silent.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Yup, there was unarmed white kid shot dead by the police in Utah.

Oddly, there was no rioting or media coverage.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Hey, you are the one who said Libby three times out loud. Time to break out The banana Boat Song.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Retweeted by Laura Hettiger KMOV
News 4 St. Louis @kmovnewsfeed · 1m

Michael Brown named suspect in robbery that happened before shooting http://bit.ly/1uBC5b4 #kmov #News4StLouis
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Just Posted
Michael Brown named suspect in robbery that happened before shooting
KMOV.com

Posted on August 15, 2014 at 9:33 AM
Updated today at 11:13 AM
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FERGUSON, Mo. (KMOV.com) — Moments before being shot and killed by a Ferguson police officer, Michael Brown allegedly took part in a strong arm robbery at a local convenience store, according to a police incident report.

Police said officers were dispatched to a strong arm robbery at a Ferguson convenience store moments before the shooting.

That strong arm robbery was caught on video.

http://www.kmov.com/news/slideshows/PHOTOS-Surveillance-images-of-strong-arm-robbery-before-fatal-shooting-271389401.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=%2F#/news/slideshows/PHOTOS-Surveillance-images-of-strong-arm-robbery-before-fatal-shooting-271389401.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=%2F&img=0&c=y

According to the incident report from the robbery, Michael Brown was named as a suspect. Brown, and an acquaintance Dorian Johnson, reportedly took several boxes of cigars from that convenience store. An unnamed witness then called 911. Moments later, Brown allegedly grabbed a victim and pushed him against shelves in the store.
(More…)
============

http://www.kmov.com/news/just-posted/Brown-is-named-suspect-in-robbery-moments-before-fatal-shooting-271391081.html?utm_term=%23kmov+%23News4StLouis&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Do you think a person is justified in trying to take away a cop’s gun and kill him with it is OK because they are black?

Bottom line..for you…the race of the “victim” takes precedence over any actions that “victim” may have taken that led to his own demise.

Be honest, if this was a white kid that was shot you would be silent.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

liblikeaslave proved, again, that he and Ded Pepper, and a few others, are the true racists and illiberal thugs of HA.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Darren Wilson was responding to the robbery call, and the other officer at the scene had already ibdentified Brown with a description. Try to keep up, Ofay.

M240H on August 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

So, lemme get this straight. As the murderer who killed Brown was murdering him, he had no idea that Brown may have had an altercation at a Quick Stop earlier in the day, had no reason to suspect Brown had committed any crime, and put a bunch of bullets in him.

Also, I am failing to see how taking a box of Swisher Sweets (if Brown actually took them without paying) is strong arm robbery and not petty theft.

“As the murderer who murdered Brown was murdering him murderously….”

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Bump…because…it’s needed.

Am I supposed to be persuaded by the idea that alleged robbery is justification for murder without trial? That’s meant to convince anyone that Browns killing was justified? If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

No. An honest and open minded person would be persuaded to now wait for all the facts to come in. I am fine with you demanding faster answers, but “typing murder without trial” show a shallow mind when it comes to the rule of law.

Hey, hope all is well and school should start soon.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM

+1

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

questions about education during the presser?
odd

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

However, when you’re doling out criticism of conservatives and libertarians in these threads you could also throw something in for your fellow lefties who are nuts.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

I’ve certainly done so.
Maybe you wanna call out kingsmill for his ‘maybe he needed killin’?

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

factfreeordie doesn’t need facts.

He’s got something more important than facts.
Something that transcends facts.
He’s got The Narrative.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Just because you know how to type doesn’t mean you should post here for others to read. You should be ashamed of yourself.

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

The Ferguson police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black, (6’5″ 290 pound) teenadult,

Viator on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

So, lemme get this straight. As the murderer who killed Brown was murdering him, he had no idea that Brown may have had an altercation at a Quick Stop earlier in the day, had no reason to suspect Brown had committed any crime, and put a bunch of bullets in him.

Also, I am failing to see how taking a box of Swisher Sweets (if Brown actually took them without paying) is strong arm robbery and not petty theft.

But, hey, I’m sure by the time the report of the shooting is released, the police will have found all sorts of drugs in Brown’s system, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he was on the grassy knoll, and may have been linked to al Qaida.

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Get your facts straight and then come back, dummy.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Minimize the fact that Brown was being stopped for robbery and was apparently a hoodlum.

Tater Salad on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Nothing I’ve seen so far says the stop was related to the robbery. Unless there’s a timeline of APBs and the stop of Brown and Johnson that shows that to be the case, I would be very leery of using the word “fact” to describe that assertion.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Maybe he is – but this seems to be something that keeps getting reported and then retracted.
Regardless, there’s a heck of a lot more to be learned as to what happened here than what race the officer was.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Wow! one Hell of a post right here.

Yeah, you know I’ve been wondering that for years now….

..about our Media…..Seems that RACE is all it is about to them
..and to Obama voters…..and to Leftists…and…

ToddPA on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Says the guy rationalizing city-destroying riots.

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Maybe you wanna call out kingsmill for his ‘maybe he needed killin’?

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Nope. Some people do need killing; especially those trying to kill a police officer attempting to make a felony arrest.

M240H on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Hey, you are the one who said Libby three times out loud. Time to break out The banana Boat Song.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

HA! That right there’s funny!

questionmark on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Just a couple of remaining questions on this case.

That was one big thug. I hope the cop had an elephant gun.

I can’t wait for the tox report..usually 30 days to see what this POS had in his body to rough up a clerk 1/3 his size

txdoc on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

msnbc @msnbc · 49s

#Ferguson police allege Michael Brown was involved in robbery before shooting: http://on.msnbc.com/Xna4qd

https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/500316028354580480/photo/1

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Brains…they don’t grow by eating them, duhhhhh

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

You and Ned should star in a a cartoon together.

Oh, wipe the spittle off your monitor.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

I’ve certainly done so.
Maybe you wanna call out kingsmill for his ‘maybe he needed killin’?

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

I didn’t read his comments. I’ll take a look at them.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Now we know why Obama was so sullen yesterday during his press conference.

He knew the facts behind the case.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Yep – no doubt about it.
Pork-Chop on August 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM

I dunno why photos are needed. The robber was up close and personal with the clerk, the clerk should be able to give a solid positive ID.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

So, a package of cigar wrappers. That’s a capitol felony. Does anyone here imagine that the shopkeeper, had he been armed, would have shot Brown over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

“Facts” according to the murderers who murdered a man.

I love how you ISIS supporters will believe anything a murderer says as long as he’s wearing a costume. It’s kinda funny, in a sad way.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM

For the record I have never seen Verbie act or comment like a racist or a “race pimp”. Verbs and me don’t always agree, but dude has been cordial when we comment back and forth. Also, he ain’t not troll.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Thanks.
I make an effort.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

If Brown also made a move for Officer Wilson’s weapon, then the shooting was justified.

TarheelBen on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

That would justify the initial shots fired. It wouldn’t necessarily justify any further shots fired, particularly if Mr Brown was moving away and no longer a threat. If he pursued him and fired repeatedly (admittedly, we don’t know if that accusation is true or not) while not under threat to himself or others, then the “he tried to get my gun” defense pretty much loses its power.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Would be really interested to actually know how much time you’ve served…

Community Service or actual jail time…

BigWyo on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Am I supposed to be persuaded by the idea that alleged robbery is justification for murder without trial? That’s meant to convince anyone that Browns killing was justified? If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Can you please translate your post into English for us? No one here can read Austrian…

Del Dolemonte on August 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM

To quote Ethan Edwards, maybe he needed killin.

kingsmill on August 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM

’ve certainly done so.
Maybe you wanna call out kingsmill for his ‘maybe he needed killin’?

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

So, kingsmill is saying the cop may have been justified, legally and perhaps morally?

That’s beyond the pale? When you admit we don’t know a lot?

Sounds like you’ve come to a conclusion already.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

I dunno why photos are needed. The robber was up close and personal with the clerk, the clerk should be able to give a solid positive ID.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Probably did. But, there are always going to be those who won’t believe it. These photos don’t lie.

Pork-Chop on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

“Facts” according to the murderers who murdered a man.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

The murderer murdered him murderously, I tells ya!

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

NBC is frantically trying to alter incriminating video to show convenience store clerk assaulting the gentle giant.

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Buzz-Bait, this is for your own good. Step away from the keyboard and put your arms up.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

We truly live in a drive thru society where everything must be decided immediately. I am the first to say that every cop shooting must be investigated thoroughly, BUT that doesn’t mean that this cop doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.

AND IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT HE DOESN’T GET THE SAME DAMN BURDEN OF PROOF THAT EVERY SCUM BAG CRIMINAL GETS IN EVERY COURT ROOM ACROSS THIS COUNTRY- INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. It is amazing- If Michael Brown had shot this cop: Lib, Verb, and Aqua would be screaming to withhold judgment until the trial was over!!!!!

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Ned and Aquateen

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

I bet Aquateen knows what swisher sweets are used for.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

All of the Liberals and RINOS in the Media are trying to scapegoat the LOCAL POLICE in Ferguson JUST FOR DOING THEIR JOBS!!!!!!!

The real hero here in keeping Ferguson safe is the LOCAL POLICE CHIEF and especially the officers who took BIG MIKE BROWN off the streets. Now, where is Al Sharpton???? Shouldn’t he be apologizing to the folks of Ferguson?????

Realdemocrat1 on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

And no “journalist” questioned that….?

d1carter on August 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Of course not. It didn’t fit the narrative.

Kevin71 on August 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Hey, you are the one who said Libby three times out loud. Time to break out The banana Boat Song.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Where’s a sandworm when you need one?

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM

So, a package of cigar wrappers. That’s a capitol felony. Does anyone here imagine that the shopkeeper, had he been armed, would have shot Brown over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Uh, the cost of the item isn’t the determining factor here.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:42 PM

I love how you ISIS supporters will believe anything a murderer says as long as he’s wearing a costume. It’s kinda funny, in a sad way.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

You fool, I’ll wait for the trail, something you won’t. I saw your stupid comments yesterday.

On ISIS, I hope they cut a few heads off, while here. Leftist thugs, due to PC, allowed them to grow. YOU own all the dead souls.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:42 PM

I

t doesn’t justify shooting an unarmed man in the back as he’s running away if that’s actually what happened, but that claim came from the man who is a suspected accomplice in the earlier robbery — and would explain why the police officer might have taken an interest in Brown and Johnson in the first place.

As the statute quoted directly states, there are circumstances where shooting a fleeing felon are legally justified. Most states have similar laws. Typically, these factors are in play. The suspect is believed to have committed a violent felony and poses a threat to the community if not apprehended

I would observe that strong-arm robbery is a violent crime and a felony in every state. Resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer, and attempting to take his gun all support the conclusion the suspect poses a threat to the community.

We should suspend judgment until further facts are revealed, but this new evidence suggests the shooting was legally justifiable. It’s a tragedy that a man is dead but it’s beginning to look like he was asking for trouble and he found it.

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Blake on August 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Sorry I missed it. I do apologize.

MaiDee on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

I’ll wait for the trail trial

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Darren Wilson was responding to the robbery call, and the other officer at the scene had already ibdentified Brown with a description. Try to keep up, Ofay.

M240H on August 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Was this part of the release about the robbery? It sure would be nice if important things like that were posted in the story.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

We truly live in a drive thru society where everything must be decided immediately. I am the first to say that every cop shooting must be investigated thoroughly, BUT that doesn’t mean that this cop doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.

AND IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT HE DOESN’T GET THE SAME DAMN BURDEN OF PROOF THAT EVERY SCUM BAG CRIMINAL GETS IN EVERY COURT ROOM ACROSS THIS COUNTRY- INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. It is amazing- If Michael Brown had shot this cop: Lib, Verb, and Aqua would be screaming to withhold judgment until the trial was over!!!!!

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

+1

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

If you don’t go out robbing, you won’t get killed.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Sounds like Wanda Sykes has hijacked this police conference.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

BIG MIKE is ENTITLED to take whatever he wants from that store!!!!

Realdemocrat1 on August 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Does anyone here imagine that the shopkeeper, had he been armed, would have shot Brown over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Just be be clear here – are we talking blunt or perfectos? If Perfectos, the answer is yes. Good smokin’.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Thanks.
I make an effort.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

I would also like to add during this love fest is that; Verbs does not dodge comments. It may look like it, but on this thread count how many comments have been directly at him. Bout impossible to answer all. He usually keeps up a conversation with one or two main posters per thread. Okay, I ain’t being nice to Verbie any more today.

Man, I can’t buy a reply most days. Chuckle!

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I bet Aquateen knows what swisher sweets are used for.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Ok… I keep reading this sort of statement. I don’t know. Can anyone give me a quick lesson?

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Nothing I’ve seen so far says the stop was related to the robbery.

[GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM]

Excuse me, but didn’t you read the post? The post is about the stop being the result of the robbery investigation. It may be inaccurate, but it’s not “nothing”.

As for facts, take a look at the Gateway Pundit post comparing the attire of the Quik Trip robber and the what Brown was wearing at the time of his death.

Just to make clear, I am not saying it is the same person, but it is certainly the same mother laying out clothes for her basement-dwelling, unemployed adult children. /s

Dusty on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Now we know why Obama was so sullen yesterday during his press conference.

He knew the facts behind the case.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Yup. He pushed it as far as he could:

“We lost a young man, Michael Brown, in heartbreaking and tragic circumstances. He was 18 years old. His family will never hold Michael in their arms again.”

Then he said:

“But let’s remember that we’re all part of one American family. We are united in common values”

Why doesn’t he come out and tell the basic truth? Blacks, angry a black man was shot dead by the police, riot and loot. How can he gloss over the most salient point of this whole sorry episode? It’s like when they talk about suicide bombers but fail to mention they’re Muslim. He’s omitting the entire motivation for the incident. It’s insane.

LashRambo on August 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Rolling blunts to smoke that terrifying plant, marijuana.

Or to, you know, smoke tobacco.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

“Facts” according to the murderers who murdered a man.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

The murderer murdered him murderously, I tells ya!

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

The murderer murdered him murderously, in a murderous rage, no less.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

So, a package of cigar wrappers. That’s a capitol felony. Does anyone here imagine that the shopkeeper, had he been armed, would have shot Brown over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

It’s not the cigar wrappers. Use your head. It’s a violent assault in the perpetration of a robbery, a crime of violence against a person, not a mere theft.. The problem isn’t in the value of the stolen goods but in the demonstrated threat to the community posed by a violent criminal.

novaculus on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Nothing I’ve seen so far says the stop was related to the robbery.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM

The “stop” was with in an hour (or was it 10 mintues) of the robbery. And they had descriptions. And I know they have the radio thingys where they do all that cop talk and tell each other about crimes and what to look out for and all that… DUH.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

melle1228 on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Absolutely. I want justice – not “social” justice, but real justice. And that will take hearing some hard truths, possibly.

One thing to hold on to – it is possible that BOTH people involved were in the wrong. It is also entirely possible that the officer was legally authorized to shoot Mr Brown in the back as he fled, but that doesn’t mean it was the wise or prudent thing to do.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Ed wrote ‘might have been’…not ‘for certain’.
But he’s right to consider that a huge factor in all of this has been such little info from the police about the incident. I can’t recall a similar incident where there was no version of events provided by this police for this long.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Maybe because all those other incidents, the Police and DAs etc jumped to concludion before the facts came out. Sorta like the Trayvon case took a week or two before the real facts came out, but the narrative was already out and set in stone by retards like you.

I say good on FPD for slow walking and making sure all the “is” dotted and “ts” crossed before saying a thing. That’s one way to revoke the race card.

Trayvon and Brown were both thugs and deservedly died because of their froward ways.

Too bad their parents and the community preachers weren’t teaching these Thugees from the Book of Proverbs. Chapter 6 really speaks to these two and especially verse 15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.

I’m done with this saga – stick a fork in them.

AH_C on August 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

So, lemme get this straight. As the murderer who killed Brown was murdering him, he had no idea that Brown may have had an altercation at a Quick Stop earlier in the day, had no reason to suspect Brown had committed any crime, and put a bunch of bullets in him…

Let’s face it, you pig jock sniffers just get off on hearing about the police murdering people. You’re barely better than ISIS supporters.
Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:30 PM.

Get your facts straight and then come back, dummy.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Office Wilson was answering the police dispatcher’s call for this very crime at time of the shooting incident. That crime occurred just 10 minutes earlier.

Assualting and battery on a police officer is a felony is is not?

Attempting to steal a police officer’s firearm is a felony is it not?

H8in on LEO cripples one’s critical thinking, does it not?

Mike OMalley on August 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Rolling blunts to smoke that terrifying plant, marijuana.

Or to, you know, smoke tobacco.

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Got it. We probably have to do it that way much. In Colorado I can stuff copious amounts of marijuana into all sorts of receptacles that I can legally buy along with the pot.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Aqua you’re hilarious. Clown.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I would also like to add during this love fest is that; Verbs does not dodge comments. It may look like it, but on this thread count how many comments have been directly at him. Bout impossible to answer all. He usually keeps up a conversation with one or two main posters per thread. Okay, I ain’t being nice to Verbie any more today.

Man, I can’t buy a reply most days. Chuckle!

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I’ll agree with you that verbaluce isn’t a race baiter.

But I disagree about dodging comments. Sure, verbaluce will respond but responses are often evasive.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Later, Dr. Seuss.

vlad martel on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

incipient – beginning stage

insipient – what you are.

Now, fu*k off into thugland.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Now we know why Obama was so sullen yesterday during his press conference.

He knew the facts behind the case.

sentinelrules on August 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Bingo! I was wrong, I thought he just wanted to go golf, instead he knew ahead of time. You notice Holder is quite as well. This also explains the big delay, he probably got the word before he was about to speak and the speech needed to be redone.

Everyone in authority for the most part knows the truth now, but some are trying to stage manage it to calm the mob down and make themselves look good even if it means putting the cop in danger. The police chief decided to instead let the cat out of the bag.

And off he goes…..

William Eaton on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Nothing that feels unsafe right now

Nothing feels unsafe? Is this ‘reporter’ deaf, dumb and blind? Has he been in Australia the last week only to arrive today?

No justice no peace.

This cliche is an explicit threat even though we have become inured to it. Moreover, these people wouldn’t know justice if it slapped them silly.

jangle12 on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Maybe he is – but this seems to be something that keeps getting reported and then retracted.
Regardless, there’s a heck of a lot more to be learned as to what happened here than what race the officer was.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Wow! one Hell of a post right here.

Yeah, you know I’ve been wondering that for years now….

..about our Media…..Seems that RACE is all it is about to them
..and to Obama voters…..and to Leftists…and…

ToddPA on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Well if you wanna believe something that much, who am I to stop you.
Here’s my gripe with your overall point. Insisting that ‘the left’ makes it ‘all about race’ – the right demands that it can never be about that. The Malkinite shout of ‘raaaacccciiissst’ is meant to mute and dismiss it as ever a factor fully..validity be damned.
Along the same lines, I never liked the ‘PC’ movement. If I ever saw any sense to it, I grew to be as dismissive of it as anyone could be. But then suddenly I’d hear someone say something truly offensive or insensitive, followed by a defensive and sarcastic ‘oh so sorry, am I not being PC?’. Now of course what they were really being was just an a$$hole. But they were afforded and felt some sort of allowance for this by the anti-PC argument.

verbaluce on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

If you are trying to prove that this isn’t about race, try not suggesting that the penalty for robbery while black is death.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Whatever happened between Brown and the cop, the shooting probably had more to do with the assault/attempted assault on the cop in the car than it had to do with the prior store robbery/assault on the clerk.

Just like innocent little Skittles-buying Trayvon wasn’t shot because he was black or wearing a hoodie, but because he punched a guy in the face, jumped on him, straddled him and pinned him to the ground while trying to beat him into unconsciousness.

AZCoyote on August 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The QuikMart report is dated same day as the incident.

verbaldouche on August 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Their hard drives crashed and they fired the outside contractor that did the backups so this might take a while. Oh and the officer just texted the police chief on his private phone and told him what happened. So it’s good.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:16 PM

How long has Eric Holder’s investigation of IRS corruption been going on now? Any results?

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

It takes a lot to be more unhinged than factfreeordie but somehow you’ve managed it.

Go get a pistachio shake and some fries and relax a little bit.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

So, a package of cigar wrappers. That’s a capitol felony. Does anyone here imagine that the shopkeeper, had he been armed, would have shot Brown over a package of cigar wrappers?

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Uh, the cost of the item isn’t the determining factor here.

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:42 PM

It’s sick that you think so.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

If Brown and Johnson were fleeing from a felony theft, the shooting may have been justified under Missouri law — which may explain why the police handed out the report on the strong-arm robbery. But they still have not released the report on the shooting itself, and it doesn’t explain why it took six days to get around to discussing the robbery.

Forcibly stealing property is a Class B felony in Missouri. Seems harsh to me if it was less than a $50 box of cigars, but that’s what it says:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5690000030.HTM

jim56 on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

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canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Most of you have covered the comments I wanted to make. 1. Ed needs to stay in his safe zone and like Rand Paul, keep his foot out of his mouth. The police could not release report without investigating it. Six days is not a long time even when you aren’t dealing with city wide anarchy. 2. Brown has a history of violence as a juvie. Getting snagged for an adult felony means jail time. Motive for attacking cop who saw him. 3. First reports were the two suspects were yelling ‘keep running “when officer drove up. They weren’t walking down the street. 4. If caught why didn’t brown give up like a good citizen should? He would be alive today. 5. The looting stopped because everything is gone. And the police hammered them early. 6 and lastly brown attacked what appears to be a minority. Indian perhaps? Whose the racist there?

archer52 on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Try not to burn the fries today, blunt-brain.

M240H on August 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Absolutely. I want justice – not “social” justice, but real justice. And that will take hearing some hard truths, possibly.

One thing to hold on to – it is possible that BOTH people involved were in the wrong. It is also entirely possible that the officer was legally authorized to shoot Mr Brown in the back as he fled, but that doesn’t mean it was the wise or prudent thing to do.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:48 PM

+1

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Where the heck is weedisgood when an interpreter is needed? Is your keyboard orange from Cheetos? Chuckle.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

It’s sick that you think so.

eh on August 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Ok, dude. Why don’t you explain it to me?

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Later, you mostly incipient fascists/ISIS supporters.

Have a wonderful day working with the Statists to excuse inexcusable State actions!

Aquateen Hungerforce on August 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM

What happened to this poster? I remember their comments
having Sanity in prior years…

ToddPA on August 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM

I bet Aquateen knows what swisher sweets are used for.

HumpBot Salvation on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Actually, I didn’t know about that. And I’ve smoked them off and on for about 30 years. Huh, learn sumthin’ new everyday.
But now I’m gonna feel guilty next time I pick some up.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM

One fool leaves, the next shift appears, like magic.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Where the heck is weedisgood when an interpreter is needed? Is your keyboard orange from Cheetos? Chuckle.

HonestLib on August 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Ha ha ha.

What happened to this poster? I remember their comments
having Sanity in prior years…

ToddPA on August 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM

good question

gwelf on August 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Yo, Eric whassup ?

Not so good Boss. We can’t seem to Saint Trayvon this one. Too many facts in the way and too late to “NBC” the cop.

Can you audit the cop?

Maybe, Boss, I’ll have a conference with Al and Je$$e to see if we can further milk it….
You may as well come back to DC and pretend to be working.

Okay, Eric, thanks. Keep on hustling….

viking01 on August 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

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