Ferguson fallout: Missouri calmer, but the protests still having an impact

posted at 8:41 am on August 15, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The protests in Ferguson, Missouri appeared to be calmer on Thursday night than they had in the past. Some attributed the decline in violence from demonstrators and heavy-handed responses from police to the decision by Gov. Jay Nixon to put Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson, an African-American, in charge of the town’s security.

In a tactical U-turn, Johnson, and a handful of black officers without body armour walked among thousands of protesters filling the streets of the mostly black St. Louis suburb, demanding justice for the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

“We just want to be able to come and demonstrate together without the fear of being shot. It’s that simple,” said 53-year-old protester Cat Daniels, an Iraq veteran. “What you see tonight is people coming together. When that kid was killed the hurt and the pain was real.”

But the protests have had an impact across the country, and demonstrators seeking to express solidarity with the protesters in Ferguson have turned on in a variety of places including New York City’s Times Square.

Via American Power blog, CBS News revealed that thousands of protesters flooded Broadway to protest the situation in Ferguson. The city continues to reel from the death of Eric Garner who passed after a police officer used a chokehold in order to subdue him. That death has been ruled a homicide, and New York City lawmakers are petitioning Attorney General Eric Holder to pursue a Department of Justice investigation into that incident.

There was a similar scene playing out last night in Chicago, where hundreds turned out in Daley Plaza to protest the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown where they chanted slogans like “black lives matter” and “no justice, no peace.”

Around the world, reactions to the episode in Ferguson have been passionate. In Russia, supporters of Vladimir Putin are seizing on the events in Missouri as an example of why the United States is in no position to lecture Russia on its foreign or domestic affairs.

“Obama isn’t satisfied killing Libyans, Syrians, and Ukrainians, [so] U.S. officials have sent the police to go kill Americans,” one Russian said in a Tweet directed at former U.S. Ambassador Mike McFaul.

“All in all, it seems that the Americans have started their own Maiden in Ferguson,” wrote Egor Prosvirnin, a supporter of Ukraine’s pro-Russian separatists and editor of the website Sputnik & Pogorm, in reference to the Kiev square where protesters gathered and ultimately ousted former Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych. “What do you think? Should Russia grant Obama asylum in Rostov after the Ferguson Maidanites seize Washington?”

They have even seized on statements like Russia watcher and The New Republic columnist Julia Ioffe who some Russian readers marveled had compared the United States response to the violence in Ferguson to how Russia manages domestic affairs unfavorably.

In spite of the fact that the situation in Ferguson seems to be cooling, it is apparently only heating up in cities across America and around the world.


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Faraway does a store’s product equal cash? Ever price smokes?

CW on August 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

:) whirled

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 11:03 AM

My question is, if were the potential robbery suspect, why would the officer tell the two young men to: “get the f*ck on the sidewalk or get the f*ck outta the street.”

Ned Pepper on August 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM

How is your story not a contrived story (lie)?

Skywise on August 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM

We’ll be waiting for the apologies.

formwiz on August 15, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Ned is contrived

CW on August 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM

CW, just saw it on Fox News. Mike Tobin showed the screen shots that they had been given at the presser. This little boy is 6’4″ and about 250 lbs…he was HUGE.

ladyingray on August 15, 2014 at 10:15 AM

According to thegatewaypundit.com (who has been all over the incidents) he was 6’4″ and 292 lbs.

Taking a ‘box of cigars’ is not a ‘robbery’.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM

If they didn’t belong to him, and he took them by force, then it’s the very definition of robbery.

Now, if you mean that it’s not what you usually think of when you hear “robbery,” then you have a point. Just like a guy 6’4″ and 292 lbs is not what you normally think of when you hear about an “unarmed black teen.”

Let the information come out. The more information that comes out, the more likely that we find out he attacked the officer and tried to take his gun, and that the shooting was justified.

But if not, if it turns out that the shooting was not justified, in spite of Michael Brown being apparently some kind of thug who didn’t mind picking on people much smaller than he was, then it can be dealt with in a normal trial.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 15, 2014 at 11:14 AM

All of the cops in the Ferguson Police Department should be charge with assault, attempted murder, murder, perjury and conspiracy to cover up crimes.

earlgrey on August 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

And that sort of crap is why any cogent point you might have to make never gets heard.

Everyone else keep in mind that robbery does not make a police shooting justified in and of itself. It does tend to give credence to the police claims on events. But it doesn’t necessarily justify shooting Mr Brown.

This is what I was afraid would happen – something to discredit the deceased, but that doesn’t actually prove a justification for the shooting. Everyone, everywhere should record their interactions with police for this very reason.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

CW, you mad bro? No, I already said I made a mistake. At first I only read the AP report where they hid the details of the robbery, and didn’t show the pictures.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Here is the AP report where they hid the main details about the robbery, and made it sound like he just shoplifting.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_SHOOTING_MISSOURI_ROBBERY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-15-10-22-19

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Surely if the dead mans name is out there, then the one who pulled the trigger should also be named.

I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to citizens before I trust any government agent.
But that’s just me.

weedisgood on August 15, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Is it safe to assume that from this particular screed that you do not see the police officer involved in this as a “citizen”? It would certainly be in line with many of the other pieces of moonbattery I’ve read….

tanked59 on August 15, 2014 at 11:22 AM

The most important business in this Nation–or any other nation, for that matter-is raising and training children. If those children have the proper environment at home, and educationally, very, very few of them ever turn out wrong. I don’t think we put enough stress on the necessity of implanting in the child’s mind the moral code under which we live.

The fundamental basis of this Nation’s law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don’t think we emphasize that enough these days.

If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.

- Missouri native President Harry S. Truman
Address Before the Attorney General’s Conference on Law Enforcement Problems
February 15, 1950

ITguy on August 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Everyone else keep in mind that robbery does not make a police shooting justified in and of itself. It does tend to give credence to the police claims on events. But it doesn’t necessarily justify shooting Mr Brown.

This is what I was afraid would happen – something to discredit the deceased, but that doesn’t actually prove a justification for the shooting. Everyone, everywhere should record their interactions with police for this very reason.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Very reasonable post.

DisneyFan on August 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Everyone else keep in mind that robbery does not make a police shooting justified in and of itself. It does tend to give credence to the police claims on events. But it doesn’t necessarily justify shooting Mr Brown.

This is what I was afraid would happen – something to discredit the deceased, but that doesn’t actually prove a justification for the shooting. Everyone, everywhere should record their interactions with police for this very reason.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Well, if the main witness to the shooting is also a robbery accomplice, I’d be inclined to cast a skeptical eye to his description.

butch on August 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM

ITguy on August 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Excellent find.

tanked59 on August 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I hear the looters in Ferguson, Mo. are stealing just about everything.
The shoe store shelves have been stripped bare except for work boots

iceman1960 on August 15, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Nothing says social justice louder than a new pair of liberated Nikes.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM

A new set of stolen rims has also been known to soothe the wounds of centuries of racism.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Well, if the main witness to the shooting is also a robbery accomplice, I’d be inclined to cast a skeptical eye to his description.

butch on August 15, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Very true. But it also isn’t a positive defense of the police officer. And that’s the problem. If the incident were directly tied (such as a hot pursuit) to the robbery it might provide more confidence (though still no proof).

I’ll state again that one of the problems with policing in the last couple of decades has been – because of lawsuits over police brutality – the reduction in the range of options an officer has. Many places it seems the options go from hands to firearm with no intermediate steps (though occasionally with a stop at taser in-between). So, what might have been a simple head-crack (if not totally preventing the unrest, at least it’s a lot less permanent) with a baton now becomes a death. True, it might not have made a difference here, but I think it is part and parcel of the up-arming of the police.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

The Mike Brown saga is falling apart big time.

POLICE SAY MICHAEL BROWN, far left, who was unarmed when he was fatally shot by a Ferguson police officer, fit the description of a suspect in a store robbery, near left, which was called in minutes before the shooting.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-say-michael-brown-fit-description-strong-arm-robbery-suspect/

“The convenience store video reveals Michael Brown entering the storefollowed by Johnson. Brown hands a box of Swisher Sweets to Johnson. Brown took several boxes of cigars and turned to leave the store. “Brown grabbed the clerk and “forcefully pushed him back into a display rack.”
(police report)

http://4-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/xbrown-robbery-stroe.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Dzg1QE4GTT.jpg

“Johnson” is Dorian Johnson the eyewitness to the Brown shooting.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eye

So the victim of the national tragedy Big Mike Brown and the eyewitness to the national tragedy Dorian Johnson just robbed a convenience store moments before the national tragedy?

Viator on August 15, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Viator on August 15, 2014 at 11:50 AM

The screenshots from FoxNews shows a man being roughed up in the store.

Maybe Brown was just having a bad bout of nicotine withdrawal?

WhirledPeas on August 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Where da white wimmin at?

Galtian on August 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Michael Brown primary suspect in strong-arm robbery!?

Somewhere, Barack-the-Divider better be brushing up on his best Miss Emily Litella imitation …

“Never mind.”

M240H on August 15, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Maybe Bush should have waited until ALL the facts were in about 9/11 before he ever opened his mouth about anything.

I don’t like Obama, but some of you folks are looking mighty foolish right now.

Fine, if you just want to rag on for the sake of ragging, then you’re doing a fine job.

But if you are trying to pass some of this off as intelligent debate, well, it appears that some of Libfree’s style has rubbed off on some of you.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Good God…even my 5th grader can find the truth…why cant you wally?

Before George Bush even decided to run for President…this was the official policy of the United States of America…..provided by Democrats….and signed by Bill Clinton…..

H.R.4655 Public Law: 105-338 (10/31/98) SPONSOR: Rep Gilman (introduced 09/29/98)

(REVISED AS OF 10/05/98 — Passed House, amended)

“Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 – Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.”

read it over and over you MooooooonBats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEFORE GEORGE BUSH EVER DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT…OUR “LEADERS” WERE SAYING THIS;

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”

–President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

DID GEORGE BUSH WISPER THIS IN SLICK WILLIES EAR WHEN HE WAS SLEEPING?????????

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

–President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

WAS THIS BECAUSE OF GEORGE BUSH????? hahahahahahahaha

LETS NOT FORGET MADELINE HALFBRIGHT

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”

–Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

DID GEORGE HYPNOTIZE HER….HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LETS NOT FORGET SANDY THE BURGLAR BERGER?…you know the guy caught in the national archives stealing documents to protect slick willy???????

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
–Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

OOOOPS THERE’S THAT TERM…….WEAPONS OF MASS DESTUCTION—HAHAHAHA HOW DID GEORGE GET SANDY TO SAY THAT????????AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

JOHN…WHY SUCH A LONG FACE KERRY!!!!????

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:”
– Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

AND LEAST BUT NOT LAST…”WE HAVE TO PASS IT TO SEE WHAT IN IT”….YES ITS THE STOOL SAMPLE NANCY PELOSI!!!

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

HAHAHAHAHA THEREEE’S THAT SAYING AGAIN!!! “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”!!!!…HAHAHA

HOW DID GEORGE PULL THAT ONE OFF????????????

Oh and one more thing Moron….you can go to the DOD and they’ll list the WMD for ya!!!

billofrights on August 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM

well they said he was involved in a robbery.
That changes my opinion a little bit to be honest

weedisgood on August 15, 2014 at 1:08 PM

wait? There were more facts to the case? That can’t be right, people needed their free stuff via riot and looting.

Dino V on August 15, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Seems to me like this HA blogger is in solidarity with the criminals who died while being apprehended for their crimes.

Welcome to bizarro world. Hey Noah, why don’t you fly out to Missouri today so you can stand in solidarity with the looters tonite. No risk of arrest, the evil, militarized police have stood down and will be playing cards at the precinct all night.

peacenprosperity on August 16, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Earlier this week, police confirmed that Brown pushed the officer – now identified as six-year veteran Darren Wilson – into his cruiser and struggled for his weapon before being shot. Wilson was later treated for serious facial injuries sustained in the altercation, the department affirmed.

The police report released Friday reveals even more of the story, including the fact that Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, were stopped after they were suspected of robbing a local convenience store.

Just a note – CNN has now blocked all political posts from its website

AmericaDS1234 on August 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Earlier this week, police confirmed that Brown pushed the officer – now identified as six-year veteran Darren Wilson – into his cruiser and struggled for his weapon before being shot. Wilson was later treated for serious facial injuries sustained in the altercation, the department affirmed.

The police report released Friday reveals even more of the story, including the fact that Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, were stopped after they were suspected of robbing a local convenience store.

Just a note – CNN has now blocked all political comments from its website

AmericaDS1234 on August 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Welcome to bizarro world. Hey Noah, why don’t you fly out to Missouri today so you can stand in solidarity with the looters tonite. No risk of arrest, the evil, militarized police have stood down and will be playing cards at the precinct all night.

peacenprosperity on August 16, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Dollars to donuts the people screaming at the cops live in sheltered or isolated low-crime neighborhoods with a very small percentage of low-income Democrat voters in the immediate vicinity.

Just like I’ve yet to see a pro-prostitution or pro-pot libertarian who actually lived in a neighborhood where either was prominent, with the exception of a few in very rich, very well-policed areas with ready access to medical treatment. (ie; when something goes south there is a cop to stop things and/or an EMT to rescue your dumb drugged a$$.)

The people who have to triple-lock their doors every night and watch their store stocks like a two-headed hawk have a much lower tolerance for ragging on the enforcers of law and order than some sheltered suburbanite.

LawfulGood on August 17, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Check out this photo gallery of the ‘protestors’ on the Yahoo newspage. Sure do look like an intelligent and law-abiding bunch who earn their own bread and beans. And I’m sure that long list of “stolen lives” isn’t mostly made of gangsters and lowlifes who are posthumously paraded as choir boys as the liberal media so often does.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/people-protest-police-shooting-death-michael-brown-week-photo-025722516.html

Hey dude waving the sign about “racist terror”: go talk to someone who had a cross lit in his or her front yard, or got clobbered during a march because they wanted to vote. They can tell you about REAL terror. And then you can deport your f*cking stupid self to Africa in a clown costume.

LawfulGood on August 17, 2014 at 2:52 AM

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