Breaking: Russian, Ukraine forces begin fighting near border; Update: Convoy trucks “mostly empty,” BBC reports; Update: Russians: Hey, we didn’t cross the border

posted at 11:21 am on August 15, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Remember how tensions appeared to have calmed down on the Russia-Ukraine border earlier today? Good times, good times. Both countries now acknowledge that fighting has erupted between their two military forces, although they disagree on the nature of the conflict. Ukraine insists that it’s in their country, and that they have managed to destroy part of an armored column that invaded their territory:

Ukraine said its troops attacked and partially destroyed an armed convoy that had crossed the border from Russian territory.

Ukrainian government troops engaged the vehicles that had arrived overnight through a rebel-held section of the border, Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for the country’s military, told reporters in Kiev today. Ukrainian soldiers continue to come under shelling, including rounds fired from Russia, he said.

Nyet, say the Russians. It’s the Ukrainians who attacked the military units protecting a convoy of humanitarian aid that started the conflict, although they seem to concede that the action’s taking place across the border:

Russia’s foreign ministry, meanwhile, said Ukrainian forces are engaging in intense fighting in Eastern Ukraine to stop humanitarian aid to the region.

Well, who could have seen this coming? Just about everyone when Vladimir Putin began putting together his provocative aid convoy. Let’s not forget that Putin sold this as a Red Cross effort to the Russian media while the ICRC denied any involvement in it at all. Today’s inspections were intended to get the Red Cross’ imprimatur on the project, but that didn’t stop Russia from sending in armored personnel carriers — although it did mark the first time they’d been caught at it by the media.

The EU reacted with alarm at the earlier incursion, but may find themselves in the first European war since the Balkans:

Europe voiced alarm on Friday over reports that Moscow had sent military hardware into conflict-torn eastern Ukraine, as Kiev prepared to inspect a controversial Russian “aid” convoy parked up at the border.

Tensions, already high over fears Moscow could use its humanitarian mission as a “Trojan horse” to help rebels, spiralled further after Ukraine’s military confirmed British media reports that a small convoy of Russian armoured vehicles was seen breaching the frontier.

“If there are any Russian military personnel or vehicles in Ukraine they need to be withdrawn immediately or the consequences will be very serious,” British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said.

Moscow has denied the allegations, the latest claims from the West that it has sent armour across the border to help pro-Kremlin separatists who launched an insurgency against Kiev in April.

Moscow isn’t denying it now, apparently, just claiming that it was part of the humanitarian effort.

We’ll keep our eye on further developments.

Update: The UK has summoned the Russian ambassador to explain their actions:

No word yet on an official reaction from the Obama administration.

Update: Russia says it’s still in talks with Ukraine over the aid, according to a flash update at CNBC, but warns Ukraine not to disrupt the aid convoy:

Russia, meanwhile, accused Ukraine of attempting to disrupt its humanitarian aid mission to eastern Ukraine and called for a ceasefire in the region to allow for the deliveries. The Kremlin has continuously denied sending weapons and troops into Ukraine.

“We draw attention to the sharp intensification of military action by Ukrainian forces with the apparent aim to stop the path, agreed on with Kiev, of a humanitarian convoy across the Russia-Ukraine border,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

That depends on which side of the border the Russian APCs were engaged, no?

Update: Now the EU has responded by telling Russia to back off:

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard. Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

Update: As of 12:30 ET still no statement from the White House. The Financial Times reports that it’s been grim for the rebellion even before now, and will get even more so:

The resignation of Igor Girkin, the Russian military mastermind behind the takeover of large parts of eastern Ukraine by rebel fighters, this week was the latest crack to appear at the top of the months-long rebellion that has become increasingly strained.

His departure is the third high-profile change in the rebel hierarchy in the past week. Alexander Borodai, also a Muscovite, stepped down last week as prime minister of the self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic. With Mr Girkin, he was part of Russian-backed separatist forces in Moldova’s breakaway region of Transnistria in the early 1990s.

The replacement of both with Ukrainians marks a transition in the leadership from highly trained Russian military officers to locally recruited warlords in an increasingly tense stand-off with Ukrainian forces.

“It will be like Stalingrad,” an armed rebel nicknamed Taipan recently told the Financial Times, referring to the battle between the separatists and government forces that is expected in coming days and weeks.

Or hours. Or minutes.

Update: But what about the aid? Turns out it’s mostly vaporware:

A convoy of Russian trucks carrying aid for eastern Ukraine has been opened up to journalists at the border. …

The BBC’s Steve Rosenberg noted that many of the trucks were “almost empty”.

Update, 13:21 ET: The Russians have finally gotten around to denying everything:

The Russian defence ministry denied Friday that it had sent a military convoy into Ukraine after officials in Kiev said they destroyed part of the armoured column.

Major-General Igor Konashenkov said “there exists no Russian military convoy that supposedly crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border…”, but better that Ukraine’s armed forces “destroy phantoms instead of refugees or their own soldiers,” he added, according to Russian news agencies.

Yeah, well, except …

NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen backed reports of the “Russian incursion” after British media said it had seen the convoy of some 20 vehicles cross the border.

Still no word from President Obama, either.


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Martha’s Vineyard TV’s better be on, or Obama will not have heard about this until he gets back from Vacation.

portlandon on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Well, good hunting, Ukranians! If you can, give Putin a large bloody nose.

and talk to the Poles, Obama ain’t gonna be worth sh*t to you.

Vanceone on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

But the most important question of all: Will this interrupt tee time?

RblDiver on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Time for a “red line”.

Maybe we can send the long face in to pontificate to them about barbarians and modern socities.

acyl72 on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

“Does this mean I have to interrupt my golf game again to speak to the plebes?”
/Obama

Bitter Clinger on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

In more important news….

Obama bladed his chip and is now looking at a tough up and down to save double bogey.

chuckfinlay on August 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Well, Putin has his “excuse” for going to war with Ukraine now.

Bitter Clinger on August 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Yet another petty tyrant reveals himself for what he truly is.

Turtle317 on August 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Waiting for the obligatory “Obama hits the back nine, while Ukraine explodes” photo.

s1im on August 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM

“Fore!!”.

KMC1 on August 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM

And so it begins, again. Hold on tight everybody. This summer of discontent just got more contentious.

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Someone in the media should check Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to see if there’s another tone-deaf picture of Obama. You know, before it’s removed.

Aizen on August 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Ukraine is waiting for SuperObama to come to the rescue.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Can’t I just eat my waffle?

PS Notice we haven’t heard much about “My Pet Goat”.

formwiz on August 15, 2014 at 11:30 AM

You know what? Obama’s probably going to say he found out by watching CNN. And he may very well be right–does anyone believe that his administration bothers to keep Obama informed? Valerie Jarret, on the other hand, knows everything. Obama? Why tell him?

Vanceone on August 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Yet another petty tyrant reveals himself for what he truly is.

Turtle317 on August 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Now, now, don’t blame Obama. It’s not Obama’s fault, just ask him.

trubble on August 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM

No word yet on an official reaction from the Obama administration.

Valerie is working on a strongly worded statement.
SSSSHHHH…Barry is still asleep. Wake time is noon. Tee time is 1:00.

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM

“No word yet on an official reaction from the Obama administration.”

Update: After an unfortunate triple on #7, President Obama has pushed a 3 wood into the first cut of rough, but he should have a good angle to the flag.

chuckfinlay on August 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Ooops!

CurtZHP on August 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Yeah, this is the new world order.

America /off

Oil Can on August 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Oh goody. Here it comes…

USNCVN on August 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM

There’s a lot of propaganda on both sides… if they did take out the convoy surely they would have some pictures…

ninjapirate on August 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Umm the war started months ago.

Imrahil on August 15, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Putin sent the convoy to cause precisely this kind of an excuse to move in.

To the river.

Just for Walter, my friend – obama is out golfing :)

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM

If Putin were strong enough militarily he would just take what he wanted. Instead, he’s still probing for opportunities. He wants all of Ukraine, but can’t quite get there.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Why do these things always have to happen on the 9th hole after a night of partying? Can’t a retired guy catch a break?? Dang!!

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Time for a “red line” “tee time”.

FIFY

Wyznowski on August 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

He wants all of Ukraine, but can’t quite get there.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM

No, he doesn’t. He wants the part up to the river. Period. He’ll get it, too. obama was in favor of this convoy :)

everpisso, the fool, thinks that Putin is “defeated by obama”.

I haven’t laughed this much in years.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Cnn has their Ferguson squirrel

Russia ….pffft

cmsinaz on August 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM

And so it begins.

Might be a good time to say a prayer.

Professor Blather on August 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Biden must be all smiles! It would be so much easier for him to become President instead of actually having to run.

Sven on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

No word yet on an official reaction from the Obama administration.

Still hung over from the Jordan party and tired from all that golfing (this message for the delight of Walter) and for HA hits :)

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Well, if this is the beginning of the full scale war: at least Ukrainian troops have had a baptism by fire before the first encounter with the t-80′s. They’ve got some battle hardened troops. And really, despite the KGB agents here: who would want to live under Putin’s fist? A KGB guy? And with ambitions to rebuild Soviet Russia?

Ukraine did not fair very well under Russian rule–ask the kulaks. Why go back?

Vanceone on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

What’s the end game here, given this weird sort of half-a$$ed “invasion” that’s been going on for months now?

Either rooty poot has a master plan that’s weirdly complex or he’s stumbling along like our guys seem to these days. Occam’s razor suggests the latter.

WitchDoctor on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

And so it begins.

Might be a good time to say a prayer.

Professor Blather on August 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM

PB, the world is so much better because you’re in it. The land needs so many more like you.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM

“Damn, can I not even go on vacation?” — Oaf, who’s chief.

Yes, Walter, I enjoyed typing this, with lots of schadenfreude. Fools who bring such a fool, twice, deserve him, in full.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM

More evidence of Obama’s leadership.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard. Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

:) Ferguson was a robbery

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard.

that type of petty, sarcastic dig is wholly unnecessary and completely unprofessional.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

More evidence of Obama’s leadership.

CW on August 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

“You just hate obama” — Walter

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

that type of petty, sarcastic dig is wholly unnecessary and completely unprofessional.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Ferguson :)

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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Ukrainian artillery destroyed ‘significant’ part of a Russian armored column that crossed into Ukraine, President Petro Poroshenko says in conversation with UK Prime Minister David Cameron – statement
Read more on president.gov.ua
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15.08.2014 14:22
Пресс-служба Президента Украины
Президент Украины и Премьер-министр Великобритании обсудили международные усилия по урегулированию конфликта на Донбассе

President and the British Prime Minister discussed international efforts to resolve the conflict in the Donbas

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko had a telephone conversation with British Prime Minister David Cameron.

http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/30998.html

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

No word yet on an official reaction from the Obama administration.

Isn’t the real issue the speed of the greens?

Blaise on August 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Update: After an unfortunate triple on #7, President Obama has pushed a 3 wood into the first cut of rough, but he should have a good angle to the flag.

chuckfinlay on August 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM

He blamed Bush for the triple and marked #7 a par.

justltl on August 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

and talk to the Poles, Obama ain’t gonna be worth sh*t to you.

Vanceone on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

The Poles know that only too well.

celtic warrior on August 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Valerie is working on a strongly worded statement.
Brat on August 15, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Or, more seriously, the State Dept. holding up a “Chillax, Vlad” sign in a Tweet.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard. Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

Well, we would not to disturb The One while he is golfing.

GoodAg77 on August 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard. Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

That blond chick in the smart glasses had an early salon appointment. Mani, pedi, highlights. Gittin’ ready for the weekend ya know?

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko had a telephone conversation with British Prime Minister David Cameron.

http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/30998.html

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

I smell another pic of Obama on the phone on it’s way.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM

No, he doesn’t. He wants the part up to the river. Period. He’ll get it, too. obama was in favor of this convoy :)

everpisso, the fool, thinks that Putin is “defeated by obama”.

I haven’t laughed this much in years.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM

I’ll agree that he wants the northeastern part more. But the rest ain’t chickenshit.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

ninjapirate on August 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Try foreign press they get it way before US press .

Lucano on August 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

I hope this doesn’t interfere with Obama’s dance parties.

forest on August 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/ukraine-protests-over-eu-agreement-delay/

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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EU foreign ministers: Any unilateral military actions by Russia in Ukraine would be considered blatant violation of international law – @Reuters
End of alert
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Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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Britain summons Russian ambassador to clarify reports of military incursion into Ukraine, foreign office says – @Reuters, @AFP
Read more on yahoo.com

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard.

that type of petty, sarcastic dig is wholly unnecessary and completely unprofessional.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

But it is completely accurate.

Fenris on August 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

I hope this doesn’t interfere with Obama’s dance parties.

forest on August 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Just when he getting twerking downpat, too. Dang.

whatcat on August 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

He blamed Bush for the triple and marked #7 a par.

justltl on August 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Well played. *tips cap*

chuckfinlay on August 15, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Obama’s memoir title: “Of Red Lines and White Tee Boxes.”

hungrymongo on August 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Ummmm….Uhhhh…Both sides, ummm uhhhh, the Ukraine and ummm uhhh Russia…ummm uhhh…need to cease hostilities….ummmuhhhh…both sides have behaved irresposibly…uhhhh ummmm and we uhhh need uhhhh both parties to cease hostile activities so this can uhhhh be resolved ummm peacefully. Truly the most irresposible aspect of this ummmm uhhhh is uhhhh interrupting my golf game and disrupting all night partying…Its uhhhh ummmmm really difficult to get your groove on when uhhhhh theres all this fightin….Be nice if y’all could stop hatin on each other.

well uhhh back to the back nine

Peace….Out.

Expected statement from Martha’s Vineyard from President Obama

abnormal_1 on August 15, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Meanwhile Mas B preps for his latest fundraiser/golf tour. You will respect his prioritize!
Probably gonna sign autographs and hand out free tamp@ns. Smart power ROCKS!

onomo on August 15, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Man, obama kicked putin’s ass.

What a whuppin’.

Putin’s talk was cheap, obama’s sanctions were expensive.

everdiso on June 13, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Girl, bye.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

Marie Harf and Jan Psaki are workin on a really b1tchin’ hashtag.

BacaDog on August 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM

I am very sad for the Ukrainian people and they’ve been in my prayers since all of this started. God help all if those affected by such chaos.

Badger40 on August 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Tee time is 11:45am

Viator on August 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Ukraine insists that it’s in their country, and that they have managed to destroy part of an armored column that invaded their territory:

What’s interesting to me is that if the Ukrainian account is accurate, they defeated the Russians in a preliminary engagement. That actually shows they might be capable of resisting a more serious incursion. Anyone know exactly what the Ukrainian army currently has?

Ukraine is waiting for SuperObama to come to the rescue.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Ukraine knows by now that they’re on their own.

I’m not sure why people are still rooting for Ukraine’s defeat by Russia. We’re clearly not going to get involved militarily other than belting out some rhetoric; Obama is too scared of Putin.

Doomberg on August 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The Kremlin has continuously denied sending weapons and troops into Ukraine.

THIS is why defenses of the Russian actions here on the board grate on me. The Kremlin keeps denying they’re providing arms and advisors (at the very least, more likely special forces units) and that this is all just a grassroots rebellion, blah-blah-blah. That’s a pile of horse hocky. Their support is an act of war.

Yes, this is a game that has been played for a very long time around the world. But some of the people commenting on HA seem to act as if that makes it alright to commit an act of war – “Well, everyone does it.” Yes, but you’re not supposed to get caught. And if you do, the consequences often are that you get treated as an aggressor in the conflict. So, don’t cry for Putin when people treat him as the aggressor here – he is acting in exactly that fashion.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM

“begin fighting”

heh.

more like “ukraine once again hits russian targets, and putin can’t do anything about it. again”.

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

UK summons Russian Ambassador to explain actions

Obama is 2 under par on 7th fairway

portlandon on August 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Well played. *tips cap*

chuckfinlay on August 15, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“Smiles. Nods ‘thanks’.”

justltl on August 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

No one will be angrier than Obama if he has to cut his golfing short! No one!

astonerii on August 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

World wars have started in such a manner.
It’s comforting to know that we have a wretched, sociopathic, community-organizing bum as president.

justltl on August 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

A Powers FlashBack:

https://twitter.com/mozgovaya

Natasha Mozgovaya @mozgovaya · Aug 8

.@AmbassadorPower: “Any further unilateral intervention by #Russia into #Ukrainian territory… would be viewed as an invasion of Ukraine.”

Natasha Mozgovaya @mozgovaya · Aug 8

.@AmbassadorPower: “in #Ukraine, urgent humanitarian assistance should be delivered by the intl orgs, not #Russia”

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

that type of petty, sarcastic dig is wholly unnecessary and completely unprofessional.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on August 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM

That type of comment is really a waste of pixels and an unnecessary contribution to global warming.

Oh, and the sort of snark in the original post is exactly what needs to be said. My only possible criticism is it might be too weak of a tea.

GWB on August 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Putin remains impotent on the sidelines as all the money flees his country.

check, check, check, check, check, check.

what’s next for Obama to fix for you guys?

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Here’s laughing at you, fool.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Marie Harf

BacaDog on August 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM

That’s the blond I referenced, I couldn’t remember her name. Thanks.

Pics of the lovely ladies and their # here:

Ukraine Wants Action, But U.S. Sends Hashtags Instead

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

obama has to hold another short presser now.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Marie Harf

BacaDog on August 15, 2014 at 11:56 AM

She and Psaki are whom the Russians laugh at, daily.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Alex, I’ll take “Wrong side of history speech” for $200

Goody2Shoes on August 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Anyone know exactly what the Ukrainian army currently has?

I don’t know exactly what they have that is in service or in service in that area. Most of what they have came from Russia in the first place, but a lot of tanks are not in use. Plenty of AT weapons though, but I doubt they were knocking out T-80s in this convoy.

Ukraine said its troops attacked and partially destroyed a column of armed vehicles that had crossed the border from Russian territory

That’s the quote from the story and I wonder if armed vehicles is a typo? That’s a bit different from armored.

They could have just knocked out the trucks of the convoy and not any AFVs. Not a lot of details yet

reaganaut on August 15, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Wonder what Valerie Jarrett does while Obama is on vacation?
Visit her homeland of Iran?

albill on August 15, 2014 at 12:16 PM

everpisso is delusional

Ukraine once again eliminated russian targets, while Putin stands by powerless to do anything about it.

“war”

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM

The Ukraine took the bait. That’s just what Moscow is waiting for.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Ukraine Says Russian Armored Vehicles Destroyed
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Vehicles Had Been Seen Crossing Border Near Russian Aid Convoy
Updated Aug. 15, 2014 12:08 p.m. ET
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MOSCOW—Ukrainian artillery destroyed a large part of a column of armored vehicles that had been seen entering Ukraine from Russia, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday.

Ukraine, backed by Western capitals, has for weeks accused Russia of sending men and heavy weapons to pro-Russia rebels that hold several towns and cities in Ukraine’s east.
(More…)
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-officials-start-inspection-of-russian-convoy-1408092018

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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Spokesman: UK Prime Minister David Cameron gravely concerned about reports of Russian military vehicles entering Ukraine – @ReutersWorld
End of alert
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https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:26 PM

The Ukraine took the bait. That’s just what Moscow is waiting for.

Walter L. Newton on August 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Absolutely.

The aid was not requested by Ukraine. The new leader didn’t want to allow it and obama convinced him that Putin “means well with it”.

Heh.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Meanwhile, somewhere, Kerry is furiously pressing Hillary’s reset button, and Romney is laughing his a$$ off.

stvnscott on August 15, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Lavrov to Kerry

“You tell obama that if he peeps, we and Iran will no longer trade any oil in US dollars. Understand?”

“Da, my friend, da”.

End of all stories.

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Ukraine once again eliminated russian targets, while Putin stands by powerless to do anything about it.

“war”

everdiso on August 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Putin may be many things, but “powerless” is not one of them and it would be a big mistake to assume so.

Kaffa on August 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Putin looks at Obama’s reaction to ISIS.
Sees nothing happening.
Obama more interested in his vacation and golf game.
Smiles.

albill on August 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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US stocks tumble as tensions rise between Ukraine and Russia – @FortuneMagazine
Read more on fortune.com
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https://twitter.com/FortuneMagazine

canopfor on August 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Still no word from the White House or Martha’s Vineyard. Nothing on the State Department website as of 11:39 ET either.

King Barack doesn’t appreciate cell phones or TV’s on the golf course. Too much of a distraction from what’s important.

Besides, He said the ‘crisis was over’.

GarandFan on August 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM

That’s the blond I referenced, I couldn’t remember her name. Thanks.

Pics of the lovely ladies and their # here:

Ukraine Wants Action, But U.S. Sends Hashtags Instead

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Wow. Just wow.

stvnscott on August 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM

What’s the end game here, given this weird sort of half-a$$ed “invasion” that’s been going on for months now?

Either rooty poot has a master plan that’s weirdly complex or he’s stumbling along like our guys seem to these days. Occam’s razor suggests the latter.

WitchDoctor on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I think WitchDoctor is right. This Ukraine adventure has been an absolute disater for Putin. I think all he originally wanted was an autonomous Donbas as a buffer and area to stage more instability in the rest of Russian speaking Ukraine. The grand bargain would have been an automomous Donbas and international recognition of Crimea in Russian hands. That would have been a cheap and great victory for him. If he wanted to invade Ukraine he would have done that last spring when he had 40,000 of his best troop on the border.

It’s been one disatser after another for Putin.Harkiv didn’t fall. Then the rebels shot down a passenger plane and the West finally united. Now he has rebels pushed back and facing defeat.

He now has to decide what to do. No good or cheap options are left. He can either invade and take the economic hit of having to absorb an economic basket case while dealing with sever economic sanctions from the west. Or he can wash his hands of the rebels and face severe criticism from his nationalist base and also be perceived as a loser and weak leader. It would be debilitating for him to be seen as bested by Ukraine. That would be total humiliation.

Bill-Republic of Texas on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

What’s interesting to me is that if the Ukrainian account is accurate, they defeated the Russians in a preliminary engagement. That actually shows they might be capable of resisting a more serious incursion.

The Ukrainian army has spent months struggling to defeat a lightly armed, disorganized force which they outnumber by nearly 10-1. They’d be a speed bump to a serious Russian incursion.

Jon0815 on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Update: As of 12:30 ET still no statement from the White House.

Don’t worry, whether at the White House or Martha’s Vineyard, Valerie Jarrett is fully informed and in charge.

Akzed on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

White House to announce that DogEater will be extending his vacation in 5 .. 4 .. 3 …

ShainS on August 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Either rooty poot has a master plan that’s weirdly complex or he’s stumbling along like our guys seem to these days. Occam’s razor suggests the latter.

WitchDoctor on August 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

The Russians and Ukrainian military see each other as brothers. They’ve trained together for years. Their fathers and grand-fathers fought the Nazis together in WWII. Thus the reluctance to start killing each other.

Kaffa on August 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Ukraine Wants Action, But U.S. Sends Hashtags Instead

Brat on August 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

LMAO.

I first read Kerry’s tweet here as this:

“As POTUS said: US & allies will keep standing together #UnitedforUkraine & its ppl as they chart a democratic new golf course pic.twitter.com/LvdGdfm60u”

ShainS on August 15, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Those Russian aid trucks were as empty as an IRS hard drive.

faraway on August 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The Ukrainian army has spent months struggling to defeat a lightly armed, disorganized force which they outnumber by nearly 10-1. They’d be a speed bump to a serious Russian incursion.

Jon0815 on August 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM

It takes time for an army to mobilize, especially when most of its equipment has been mothballed.

Walter Sobchak on August 15, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Will this interrupt tee time?

RblDiver on August 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Hav4en’t you heard of multi-tasking? Prez can play golf,pour gasoline on the Ferguson flames, contradict himself on Iraq and issue a meaningless rebuke to Putin all at the same time.

MaiDee on August 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

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