Reports: Stranded Yazidi parents cutting their hands to let thirsty children drink their blood; Update: U.S. Marines, Special Forces reportedly land on Mount Sinjar

posted at 4:41 pm on August 13, 2014 by Allahpundit

Not all Yazidis ended up on Mount Sinjar. Some of them, per the Daily Mail, journeyed through the desert (and occasionally through minefields) to shelters in Turkey and Syria.

As a Twitter buddy said, imagine how bad your situation must be if you’re fleeing to Syria.

Some 6,000 to 8,000 refugees have managed to escape to a makeshift camp in Dohuk province – but up to 30,000 still remain on Mount Sinjar in what a British aid worker has told Sky news is a “heartbreaking humanitarian crisis”…

“They’ve told us harrowing stories,” she said. “One man has just told us how he saw four children die of thirst. There was nowhere to bury them on the mountain so they just put rocks on their bodies.

“Another man was saying the children were so thirsty, their parents started cutting their own hands and giving them blood to drink.

Other Yazidis were murdered by ISIS while some face an even worse fate:

I can imagine what they have planned for the women they’ve captured but I can’t bring myself to imagine what they intend to do with the children. They’ve made money ransoming prisoners in the past. Let’s hope that’s all they have in mind. And what about that potential U.S. rescue mission that Ed blogged about this morning? Per Ben Rhodes, Obama’s still mulling it over:

“What [Obama]’s ruled out is re-introducing U.S. forces into combat on the ground in Iraq,” said White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes during a press conference in Martha’s Vineyard, where the President is vacationing. “But there are a variety of ways in which we can support the safe removal of those people from the mountain.”…

Rhodes said Wednesday the U.S. is looking for the best and safest way to get the trapped Yazidis off the mountain without having to engage fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). He added that Obama, who is currently on vacation on Martha’s Vineyard, will be making a decision on how to go forward after having conversations with the military.

Obama could, I suppose, send troops to evacuate the Yazidi while insisting that they’re not “combat troops” because they’re not under orders to engage the enemy, but as Noah said on Twitter, whether we engage the enemy isn’t up to us. If ISIS engages, then those troops become combat troops. Besides, the combat/non-combat distinction won’t spare O from political agita even if ISIS doesn’t engage. His critics are looking to see if he means it when he says U.S. operations against the jihadis will remain exclusively in the air; if he’s already putting boots on the ground within a week of bombing them, then obviously the “air only” rule isn’t much of a rule. That’ll make it harder to convince the public that operations will be limited going forward. I think most people will forgive him for trying to help the Yazidis even if U.S. troops come under fire, but if it turns into another Black Hawk Down, who knows?

Via the Right Scoop, here’s Ron Paul making the case that we should let the Iraqis handle ISIS … somehow. Exit question: If we’re already at the “drinking blood for sustenance” phase on the mountain, how much time realistically is left to make a move that’ll save significant numbers of lives?

Update: Well, there you go. Boots on the ground.


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VorDaj on August 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM

So, um.. Not to bother our hard work in’ , smartest man in the room, smart power wielding, cold water complaining, global warming believing, golf playing, vacationing president or anything…. But um… Weren’t you just telling us you would not be placing more American lives in danger like uh…. A week ago??

And not only that, and I don’t mean to unfocused your short game there champ, but just exactly where the hell is Europe and our Arab “allies” on this disaster you’ve created and hoped to ignore???

Why the hell is it ALWAYS America that has to do all the work!?!?

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Even the French get it!

“I know in Western countries this is vacation period but when people die, you must return from vacation.”

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius on Tuesday asked his colleagues in the European Union to return from vacation to discuss providing military assistance to Kurds fighting Islamic extremists in Iraq.

“I already asked [EU foreign affairs head Catherine Ashton ] Mrs. Ashton to summon a council of foreign affairs, which includes all my colleagues, ” so we can take a decision, Mr. Fabius said on Tuesday on radio station France Info. “I now repeat the request as an urgent matter. I know in Western countries this is vacation period but when people die, you must return from vacation.”

wyntre on August 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Why the hell is it ALWAYS America that has to do all the work!?!?

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Here’s the scary part: even WITH Barack Obama at the helm, the US is STILL more competent and capable than any other Nation on the planet to do this sort of thing.

Think about just what that means for a moment.

I will be in my bunker.

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

So where is Pelosi’s favorite charity Hamas on this one??

What about Qatar, Saudi Arabia, any of the Emirates? They realize it is just your typical intra-Islam battle and making book on how long the Yazidis survive. Isn’t Mt. Sinjar an Emirates airline tour stop?

What would be the result if the shoe was on the other foot, would the Yazidiz wipe out ISIS if they could?

KenInIL on August 13, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Serious question.

Ignore the fact that the lazy stupid rat-eared coward opted to put a priority this week on his vacation. Apparently, riding bikes with his worthless brats is more important than his job.

DOES ANYBODY SEE ANY PASSION OR CONCERN IN OBAMA WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN UKRAINE, ISRAEL, OR IRAQ? Any passion or concern at all? I don’t think he really gives a damn so long as he doesn’t have to interrupt the vacation again.

BTW- still no reason given why the bastard is going to return to DC for a couple days for “consultation.” I thought the President could do his job from anywhere in the world. Either we are being set up for the mother of all photo-ops with some bogus military operations. Or the simple fact that he returns to DC is the photo-op and the trip meaningless because there is no point in it.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Ship all able bodied male illegal immigrants to Iraq – hand them a machine gun and if they survive for 6 months they can report to a wayward station and become American citizens…..

redguy on August 13, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Serious question.

Ignore the fact that the lazy stupid rat-eared coward opted to put a priority this week on his vacation. Apparently, riding bikes with his worthless brats is more important than his job.

DOES ANYBODY SEE ANY PASSION OR CONCERN IN OBAMA WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN UKRAINE, ISRAEL, OR IRAQ? Any passion or concern at all? I don’t think he really gives a damn so long as he doesn’t have to interrupt the vacation again.

BTW- still no reason given why the bastard is going to return to DC for a couple days for “consultation.” I thought the President could do his job from anywhere in the world. Either we are being set up for the mother of all photo-ops with some bogus military operations. Or the simple fact that he returns to DC is the photo-op and the trip meaningless because there is no point in it.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2014 at 6:12 PM

No, Obama relates with ISIS and wants them to win.

redguy on August 13, 2014 at 6:13 PM

It’s way past time for the ignorant bureaucrats to just point the military at the mission and stay out of their way and let them get the job done. ROEs are a joke and have been since I was in Nam.

Sniper on August 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Here’s the scary part: even WITH Barack Obama at the helm, the US is STILL more competent and capable than any other Nation on the planet to do this sort of thing.

Think about just what that means for a moment.

I will be in my bunker.

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

And yet it’s just about every week I read or hear something about how some European politician believes (insert xenophobic European country here) his / her country is superior to America in some way or another. Meanwhile, while Europeans are living in poverty, yet ever supportive of an ever expanding State, eating their biscotti, America must once again go in harm’s way to do something that is ACTUALLY morally superior.

It’s infuriating. We do too much for the world, and ask far too little for it in return.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 4m

BREAKING: Official: U.S. Special Forces fly to Sinjar Mountain in Iraq to assess ways to rescue civilians: http://apne.ws/1pOsE3L
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Official: Green Berets fly to Sinjar in Iraq
By ROBERT BURNS
— Aug. 13, 2014 5:51 PM EDT
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A Pentagon official says a team of U.S. Army Special Forces were flown atop Sinjar Mountain in northern Iraq to get a firsthand look at possible ways to rescue stranded Iraqi civilians suffering from thirst and hunger.

A defense official confirmed that the mission was accomplished Wednesday by fewer than 20 Special Forces troops with no resistance from Islamic fighters in the area. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the mission had not yet been announced.
(More….)
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/official-green-berets-fly-sinjar-iraq

canopfor on August 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Islam = Ebola x 1,000,000.

VorDaj on August 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM

It’s infuriating. We do too much for the world, and ask far too little for it in return.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM

I’m sure there are a few things Europeans do very well.

They get these most excellent world wars going in a jiffy!

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM

I must say one of the things about American of which I’m genuinely proud is our ability and desire to save lives anywhere in the world after catastrophic events, natural and man-made.
Even to people who ‘hate’ us.

Tard on August 13, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I must say one of the things about American of which I’m genuinely proud is our ability and desire to save lives anywhere in the world after catastrophic events, natural and man-made.
Even to people who ‘hate’ us.

Tard on August 13, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I used to think like that. Now I realize I was naive.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I’m sure there are a few things Europeans do very well.

They get these most excellent world wars going in a jiffy!

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Now that – that folks is how you do it…. Lol… Well said.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM

The unfortunate part is that Europe seems to get a major conflagration going on a regular basis and we are near the maximum length they have ever experienced between such conflicts.

The last one that went this long ended in WWI.

And all the European Nations were so proud of themselves and how civilized they were, and all the lovely accomplishments they had…

It’s the only way to destroy an economy enough that they have to take the taxes off so they can recover.

They will have the next one whipped up in a jiffy, I tell you.

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Mr. Obama is risking these men by going small. This could be a fiasco.

Mason on August 13, 2014 at 7:10 PM

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM

This next one is going to be different I believe. Because of the growth and spread of Islam, it’s going to be much worse than WWI & WWII.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Look at this pencil-necked coward who pretends to be president. Just look at him.

Pass it on.

Naturally Curly on August 13, 2014 at 5:58 PM

The craven is strong in that one.

justltl on August 13, 2014 at 7:16 PM

If we’re already at the “drinking blood for sustenance” phase on the mountain, how much time realistically is left to make a move that’ll save significant numbers of lives?

So long as Obama’s all-important luxury vacation is not disturbed. That’s what really matters. Not innocent children dying of thirst, or being buried alive, or beheaded, by Islamofascist terrorists who are only able to do these things in Iraq now because of Obama’s stupidity and cowardice.

No, the pampered prince must have some respite from all his hard “work.” He needs to be fresh and rested for his next fund-raiser, or dinner with Beyonce’ and Jay-Z, or 18 rounds on whatever ritzy course he hasn’t yet graced with his magnificent presence.

How pathetic has this country become that we have “leadership” like this cowardly, narcissistic, lazy, dishonorable fool?

AZCoyote on August 13, 2014 at 7:25 PM

This is a quote from The Guardian

“British SAS soldiers have been deployed to northern Iraq to “gather intelligence” ahead of a complex rescue operation, led by the US, to airlift up to 30,000 Yazidi refugees from Mount Sinjar.

In the most dramatic sign of Britain’s growing involvement in the Iraqi crisis, the SAS soldiers have moved to the region near Mount Sinjar where US special forces are coordinating the rescue effort.

The US, supported by the British military, is expected to take its time planning the rescue operation over the coming days to avoid a repeat of the crash of an overladen Iraqi helicopter on Tuesday as it airlifted refugees.

The deployment of British special forces emerged as Britain announced that it will fly Soviet-era ammunition from eastern European countries to Kurdish forces fighting jihadists from the Islamic State (Isis) in northern Iraq. The Elysée Palace went a step further as it indicated France may be prepared to arm the Kurds itself.”

Nana on August 13, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Where are these rescued people going to be air-lifted to?

SouthernGent on August 13, 2014 at 7:42 PM

IRAQ
8m
More: US assessment team finds fewer Yazidi refugees in Iraq than previously feared, refugees in better condition than thought – @DeptofDefense
end of alert

and conveniently 10 minutes later.

IRAQ
19m
US assessment team determines evacuation mission for refugees in Iraq not likely; humanitarian aid to continue – @DeptofDefense
end of alert

Zaggs on August 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

I can imagine what they have planned for the women they’ve captured but I can’t bring myself to imagine what they intend to do with the children.

There’s always slavery. It’s in the Koran.

Socratease on August 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM

so they got them all away while all the neocons screaming on tv.

hilarious.

smart power >

everdiso on August 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

The latest report from US forces on location is that the situation is not nearly as dire as reported.

lexhamfox on August 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Keep your powder dry….

crosshugger on August 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM

The latest report from US forces on location is that the situation is not nearly as dire as reported.

lexhamfox on August 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Yeah, because ISIS killed most of them.

redguy on August 13, 2014 at 9:21 PM

I must say one of the things about American of which I’m genuinely proud….

Tard on August 13, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I used to think like that. Now I realize I was naive.

KMC1 on August 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM

No question, but I’m a bitter clinger so I’m clinging to this, bitterly.

Tard on August 13, 2014 at 9:54 PM

BREAKING

U.S. declares Yazidi intervention a success, says rescue mission unneeded

Only a ‘few’ are left – and we’re going to leave them

The United States military has concluded that there are too few Yazidi refugees still trapped in the mountains of northern Iraq to warrant mounting a potentially risky rescue,

How many, you ask?

A Pentagon official said that the Yazidis still in the mountains might number as few as 3,000.

Damn you, Obama.

faraway on August 13, 2014 at 9:57 PM

The US *assessment team* says there are less people on the mountain than first thought and situation is not nearly as dire as reported. UK and Aussie reporters on the mountain say differently. This filthy, contemptible b@stard is is forcing the military to down play this tragedy, so he can continue to vacation.

The greatest military in the history of the world must stand by and watch people suffer and die, while 7th century barbarians and the world, laugh at us.

I want an Obama supporter, that calls themself an American, to explain to me how this makes them feel good.
I cry for my country.

AppraisHer on August 13, 2014 at 10:05 PM

A Special Forces team flew to the mountain and found fewer people than expected, and those remaining were also in a better condition than feared, the Pentagon said.

So it appears that we’re bombing and invading Iraq (with bootless special forces troops) based on faulty intel? Or did Obama LIE about the intel?

kcewa on August 13, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Here’s the scary part: even WITH Barack Obama at the helm, the US is STILL more competent and capable than any other Nation on the planet to do this sort of thing.

Think about just what that means for a moment.

I will be in my bunker.

ajacksonian on August 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Absolutely agreed.

jimver on August 13, 2014 at 11:39 PM

“This is a kinetic operation. If the bad guys are in position to interfere with operations on top of the mountain, they should be killed. I own everything around Mt Sinjar.”
Commander
JTF Sinjar

HDFOB on August 13, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Ron Paul and his son can go F themselves.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM

This X1000

MWC_RS on August 13, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Ron Paul and his son can go F themselves.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM

This X1000

MWC_RS on August 13, 2014 at 11:57 PM

YES! YES! YES! This xMillion

HDFOB on August 14, 2014 at 12:03 AM

ron paul is a moral idiot. And so is ANYONE ON THIS SITE that shares his views. Bring it so I can kick your stupid ass.

Handel on August 14, 2014 at 1:23 AM

I don’t think you understand.

We either fight them now or we fight them later (when they will be even stronger than they are now). These savages want to fight us. They plan to cleanse the earth of us infidels. This fight will happen until either they are all gone or we are.

Bitter Clinger on August 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

That’s why we let them fight each other. The ISIS, vs the MB, vs the Shia extremists in Iraq, vs the Sunnis. They will shed so much blood that they will be so weakened that the Kurds with air support from us will be able to finish them off.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 13, 2014 at 5:50 PM

It would be nice if our enemies would kill each other off. Never quite seems to work out that way.

One side or the other usually wins. The winning side usually takes what the losing side had, and then becomes that much stronger.

I think the better rule is to do what’s in our own best interests. ISIS wants to attack American interests, the Shiites in Iraq have shown no real interest in attacking us, the Iranians are up to all kinds of mischief, the Sunnis are split between those who want to be reasonably peaceful because they like the status quo, and the radicals. What would probably be in our own best interest would be to pick the biggest enemy — ISIS — utterly humiliate them as a power, then step back and leave the implication for other enemies that they probably don’t want to be next.

I wish I had confidence that we would do exactly that.

The worst possible thing at this point is to project weakness. Refusing to take any action projects weakness of resolve, and would probably paint a target on our backs. Islamists may not respect our Constitution, our freedoms, or our way of life. But they do respect strength.

From a somewhat callous point of view, we should probably pick the most deserving target in the Muslim world every 20 years or so and make them an object lesson.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM

What drives me crazy is Obama’s proper decision cycle is six months late. Had he armed the Kurds, they would have never let the towns go. No mountaintop madness.

But he didn’t because he was playing politics. Wanting to pressure Maliki into doing what Obama wanted. Now the people are screwed and everybody is looking around saying who did that?

Worse, if we get a thousand off, after 39,000 die. That dumb son of a bit*** will take credit for it, and MSNBC will talk about how Obama is so great saving a thousand.

Then he’ll go golfing again, not taking the time to say anything positive to stop the riots in MO.

He IS anarchy. He loved it in the Middle East, and he loves watching it here.

archer52 on August 14, 2014 at 5:00 AM

There has already been a team of US Special Forces on the mountain for almost a week. Those are the guys who have been directing the US air strikes around the base of Mt. Sinjar. They are with Peshmerga who will not allow anyone to get near the Americans.

Viator on August 14, 2014 at 7:03 AM

The problem with the ISIS flag is not the politics so much as the inherent threat of violence. ISIS is doing some really nasty things to civilians in Iraq. Claiming affiliation with them could be taken as a threat to your neighbors that you’re going to do the same to them. That is probably not legal.
Now posting a US flag in the United States does not have a violent connotation. The same can be said for most flags. If you put up a Nazi flag or possibly even confederate flag that might convey some menace and I could understand either of those being forced down.
I’d say have it taken down and fine the fool that put it up. Then watch him because he’s likely crazy.

Karmashock on August 13, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Flying a flag, or some making some other symbolic gesture of solidarity with an organization, cannot, absent other evidence, be taken as an indication of willingness or intent to mimic that organization’s actions.

If there were a violent gang of criminals in this country that had been using the flag to incite and/or threaten immediate, targeted violence (e.g., an anti-hobo movement flies the flag the night before every hobo massacre, as a signal to non-hobos that it’s time to strike, and/or as a warning that “any hobos found in the area by the end of the week will be slaughtered”), then that would be one thing. But banning a flag on the grounds that it is flown by a bunch of violent savages is a very bad idea.

Do you really want to set the precedent that expression of solidarity with an organization can be criminalized based solely on the actions of said organization? How long do you think it would take for the same ban to be enacted against Israel, based on civilian (and “civilian”) casualties in Gaza? Or the Gadsden flag, because Tea Party Extremism.

Domestic law enforcement has no business declaring which flags can and cannot be flown simply because the organization represented is, or is purported to be, violent.

The idea that a confederate flag, or even a nazi flag for that matter, represents an actionable threat is just not supportable.

RINO in Name Only on August 14, 2014 at 7:20 AM

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