Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on August 13, 2014 by Allahpundit

The police chief of Ferguson, Missouri, appealed for calm Wednesday after three nights of unrest over the police killing of an unarmed black teenager.

“We’re just asking that the protests be peaceful,” Chief Thomas Jackson told reporters. “We understand the anger, we understand that people want answers, and we understand that we’ve got a problem. But we’re just asking people to be peaceful.”…

At a separate news conference, St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch pledged a “full, fair, complete and impartial investigation” and said all information would be released to the public after it is presented to a grand jury — whether or not charges are filed.

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Federal officials have launched a civil rights investigation into the fatal shooting of Michael Brown, according to a joint statement issued today by Richard Callahan, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri, William Woods, FBI special-agent-in-charge in St. Louis, and Molly Moran, acting assistant attorney general for the civil rights division.

Those offices will work with local authorities who are investigating whether there were state law violations.

“While the investigation will be handled as expeditiously as possible, our pledge to the community is that it will be a thorough and complete investigation,” the officials said in a prepared statement.

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Putting aside what started the protests for a moment, it’s worth discussing the police response to the outrage. In photos taken Monday, we are shown a heavily armed SWAT team.

They have short-barreled 5.56-mm rifles based on the military M4 carbine, with scopes that can accurately hit a target out to 500 meters. On their side they carry pistols. On their front, over their body armor, they carry at least four to six extra magazines, loaded with 30 rounds each.

Their uniform would be mistaken for a soldier’s if it weren’t for their “Police” patches. They wear green tops, and pants fashioned after the U.S. Marine Corps MARPAT camouflage pattern. And they stand in front of a massive uparmored truck called a Bearcat, similar in look to a mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle, or as the troops who rode in them call it, the MRAP.

When did this become OK? When did “protect and serve” turn into “us versus them”?

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Blacks are much more likely than whites to say that blacks faced unfair treatment in dealing with police or in the courts, according to a 2013 Pew Research Center survey. And blacks perceived racial biases to be greater in the criminal justice system than in other institutions.

Seven-in-ten blacks said that blacks in their community were treated less fairly than whites in dealings with the police. In comparison, 37% of whites and 51% of Hispanics held that view. Also, 68% of blacks said that the court system was unfair to blacks, far more than whites (27%) or Hispanics (40%).

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Ferguson’s police department is also more or less average in its diversity. A 2007 survey of local police forces across the country from the Department of Justice showed that the average for a city of Ferguson’s size—21,000—is an 87.5-percent white police force, and 5.6-percent black. The national average for all local police stands at 75-percent white…

Of course, these are just averages and they do not take into account the diversity of the cities themselves. Research also suggests, though, that representation makes a difference in how a community views and trusts police. For example, a 2011 study from the Department of Justice found that a driver stopped by an officer of the same race was more likely to think the reason was legitimate than a driver stopped by an officer who looked different (83 percent vs. 74 percent viewing the stop as legitimate). In Ferguson, blacks are stopped 86 percent of the time and searched 92 percent, though few are found with contraband.

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Jackson stressed on Wednesday that “race relations are a top priority right now”. He said officials from the department of justice would be assisting Ferguson with officer training and helping the force to “fix what’s wrong”.

But as protesters began a standoff on Tuesday night with a long line of police blocking downtown Ferguson, decked out in riot gear and backed by two armoured vehicles, many said that they weren’t interested in a dialogue.

A few even said that Sunday’s looting and torching of a QuikTrip gas station near the scene of Brown’s killing should be interpreted as an attack on all outsider-owned businesses, which would continue.

“We can use this as an opportunity,” one protester, Charles Jolley, told a few dozen allies whose attention he held, several of whom agreed vocally. “We can reclaim our community. This is a war, and we are soldiers on the front line”.

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We’re seeing a similar phenomenon here. Call it Zimmerman Amnesia. We ought to know from past experience how horribly inaccurate early reports about violent incidents can be. We ought to know how much can be distorted, misrepresented, and misunderstood by seemingly official or sympathetic sources on all sides, how long it can take for accurate information to come out, and how equivocal the results can be, with the evidence so evenly balanced as to convince partisans on both sides that they are right. But when every new politically charged shooting comes along, we forget what we should have learned, and there we all go, back to making confident pronouncements about who we think did what, who is the villain, and what is the remedy.

The cardinal sin here is the subordination of facts to a “narrative” adopted by activists and by the media. To adopt a narrative about how all police are racist or all police lie about shootings would be as unjust as to adopt a narrative about how all young black men are violent. Instead of insisting on our cherished narrative, we should be calling for the rule of law—which applies for everyone…

We need a lot less jabbering speculation from the press, a lot less political exploitation of the case by rabble rousers, and plenty of calm but firm vigilance by local observers who can dedicate themselves to making sure that all of the evidence is gathered and weighed carefully.

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When a community gets together and rises up, it has power. In this case, the authorities are not going to be able to sweep this shooting under the rug. No way. Authorities in Detroit were not able to ignore the shooting of that 19-year-old woman.

And yet, had that young woman been shot a couple of hours earlier by a young black man, it would not have been big news.

Had Michael Brown been shot a couple of hours later by a young black man, his killing would have been scarcely noted. Not by the media, and not by the black community. No marches, no protests, no nothing.

It is not condoning police shootings to point out that they constitute a minuscule fraction of the shootings that ravage black neighborhoods. It’s not the cops, and it’s not the Klan. It’s the residents themselves.

If the black community would come together on those shootings and say, “No more,” there would be no more. Where was the outrage when 11-year-old Antonio Johnson was shot to death as he sat in his apartment doing homework in March? The gunman climbed to the window ledge and fired into the apartment. There were three teens in that apartment. Presumably, one was the intended target. I say presumably because the family did not cooperate with the police.

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President Obama, as leader of all the people, is not well positioned for the job of leading the black population that finds itself mired in despond. Someone is needed who commands the respect of his or her people, and the admiration of that vast—I would argue preponderate—number of middle-class whites who understand that progress for blacks means progress for the entire country.

The older generation of civil-rights leaders proved its mettle through physical and moral courage. The enemy was plain—rear-guard segregationists of the old South—and the target was clear: wrongful laws that had to be, and were, rescinded. The morality of the matter was all on these leaders’ side. In Little Rock, in Montgomery, in Selma and elsewhere, they put their lives on the line. And they won.

The situation today for a civil-rights leader is not so clear, and in many ways more complex. After the victories half a century ago, civil rights may be a misnomer. Economics and politics and above all culture are now at the heart of the problem. Blacks largely, and inexplicably, remain pledged to a political party whose worn-out ideas have done little for them while claiming much. Slipping off the too-comfortable robes of victimhood is essential, as is discouraging everything in ghetto culture that has dead-end marked all over it. The task is enormous, the person likely to bring it off, a modern-day Moses able to lead his people out of the desert, nowhere in sight. Until that person or persons arrives, we can expect more nights like those in Ferguson, with cries of racism, with looters and bottom-feeders turning up, with sadness all round.

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At least zero attempts (albeit weakly) to disguise his use of the race card…not exactly an endorsement…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 1:56 AM

He uses Holder for that. Refill?

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 1:59 AM

It’s a bit of a shame that most posters here will still stand with the Ferguson PD cause they just don’t like black people.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM

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Michael Brown was a “black” guy ? . . . . . . . . why didn’t someone tell me ?
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I’M ON THE SIDE OF THE FERGUSON PD !
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I guess I better add the (/sarcasm) tag . . . . . . I don’t want this to be misunderstood.

listens2glenn on August 14, 2014 at 2:00 AM

Ken, Newtie, Hey you :)
Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Good to see you, Scrumpy!

You picked a sane time to show up :P

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:00 AM

I still don’t understand whyinell Eric WitHolder is sticking his nose in this matter. To me, it’s a local matter and should be handled at the local (ie State of Missouri on down) level. Also, considering what cops carry on their belts nowadays, anything is possible.

But, like you said, the bottom line is that lives here have been changed forever.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 1:40 AM

:Sorry bout the delay in posting…trying to sew/patch a pair of pants here…:

I’m not THAT surprised the Holder is there…my worry (as always)is going to be how badly they’ll gum up the works during the investigation.

That being said, I would like to note 2 things:

1) If their investigation, as well as the local one, shows that the cop acted in self defense and was justified, will that settle the issue? Me thinks not, at this point too many people with ZERO investment in the area, will have TOO much to lose if they can’t exploit the case for what it’s worth…which in this case will always be money or “fame”.

2) Funny, how within the same time-frame as Ferguson, there is very little news, riots or it seems, DOJ interest in this, I mean since this IS a civil rights issue as well, is it not?

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:00 AM

He uses Holder for that. Refill?
KCB on August 14, 2014 at 1:59 AM

My pleasure, Ken!

[slides Ken a Whatyoudrikin'...sends out a round of Whatchudrinkin's...puts the Febreeze and Seagull drones away...enters under "Breathing Spell"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Stratcom: China Continuing to Weaponize Space with Latest Anti-Satellite Missile Shot:

OMAHA — The latest ASAT test followed the highly destructive January 2007 test missile attack against a Chinese weather satellite, and a May 2013 test of a more capable high-earth orbit satellite killing interceptor, known as the DN-2.

Adm. Cecil D. Haney, the Strategic Command chief said China’s 2007 ASAT test that destroyed a weather satellite “created an ungodly amount of debris” that still threatens both manned and unmanned spacecraft.

China’s development of space warfare systems also includes ground-based lasers and small maneuvering satellites. The ASAT weapons are part of Beijing’s large-scale military buildup that includes numerous weapons systems that provide asymmetric strategic advantages designed to give China’s military the capability to defeat stronger U.S. forces in conflict. Other niche weapons include anti-ship ballistic missiles and cyber warfare capabilities.

Looks like China is going to be the biggest threat. We better start developing anti-anti-satellite weapons, and quick, because if our satellites are taken out we are in deep trouble.

anotherJoe on August 14, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Looks like China is going to be the biggest threat. We better start developing anti-anti-satellite weapons, and quick, because if our satellites are taken out we are in deep trouble.

anotherJoe on August 14, 2014 at 2:04 AM

And the hits just keep on coming.

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:07 AM

Is there enough Light to shine on the Darkness that is the Middle East?

Time to make yourself right with God.

For some reason God isn’t gonna stop this.

Man has ‘free will’ and the men of the ME have chosen to commit the most heinous crimes against humanity. Barbaric murderous heathens.

We have our own version, in MO, who think nothing of using barbarism and thuggish acts to harm innocents.

{WAKE THE FCUK UP YOU DUMB A$$ED STUPID FCUKERS}} Quit destroying in the name of so-called Justice.

Never in all my born days have I seen such lame-assededness dang-blasted effed-up stupidity!!

ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:07 AM

Sorry bout the delay in posting…trying to sew/patch a pair of pants here…:

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:00 AM

Cozmo will appreciate that, I’m sure… :P

I’m not THAT surprised the Holder is there…my worry (as always)is going to be how badly they’ll gum up the works during the investigation.

No doubt, but WitHolder couldn’t pursue anything against Zimmerman after a “Not Guilty” verdict was rendered.

That being said, I would like to note 2 things:
1) If their investigation, as well as the local one, shows that the cop acted in self defense and was justified, will that settle the issue? Me thinks not, at this point too many people with ZERO investment in the area, will have TOO much to lose if they can’t exploit the case for what it’s worth…which in this case will always be money or “fame”.

Agreed, and it won’t alleviate the tensions that have been fanned into a blaze because the “proper” conclusions weren’t reached.

2) Funny, how within the same time-frame as Ferguson, there is very little news, riots or it seems, DOJ interest in this, I mean since this IS a civil rights issue as well, is it not?

It can be, but it’s not the calibre that zero, WitHolder and the Usual Suspects look for.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Thanks Gorgeous!

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:00 AM

I sure can pick ‘em can’t I?!!

I needed to vent, so excuse me whilst I got my ‘rant’ on for various reasons.

Not that it makes me feel any better, but I am tired of hollering at the walls, if you know what I mean…

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:10 AM

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:07 AM

Well stated.

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:10 AM

Thanks Gorgeous!
KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:08 AM

*smoooooch!*

My pleasure, Ken!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:11 AM

evening all..

rocks, rolling on mars…

“Rolling Boulder on Mars Leaves Trail Visible from Space”

http://www.space.com/26828-mars-boulder-trail-from-space-photo.html

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:13 AM

riots… Chinese style..

“Rights group says Chinese police open fire on Tibetan protesters”

http://www.trust.org/item/20140814044505-9s1cw

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:16 AM

Looks like China is going to be the biggest threat. We better start developing anti-anti-satellite weapons, and quick, because if our satellites are taken out we are in deep trouble.

anotherJoe on August 14, 2014 at 2:04 AM

China has been a growing concern since the USSR bit the big one in 1989.

Their financing their expansion into a Blue-Water Navy & EW capabilities, including a cyber-warfare department that’s as capable as anyone’s…at a pace that should scare the beans out of anyone that follows National Security issues.

Add to that, they control a pretty healthy segment of critical manufacturing (electronics) that we in the US will need to keep our OWN capabilities up to par.

FUN TIME FACT: Currently, it would take the USA about 7-12 YEARS minimum for us to restart a domestic electronic defense manufacturing base..and we are NOT ready for it. It will take another 7+ years for us to retrain a workforce that can turn out that kind of product…and we are NOT ready for that either.

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:16 AM

The Holders and Obamas and Sharptons of this world will do what it takes to stir up the black masses, they and the media are all too successful at this.

It’s time blacks found some smarts, and stop this idiocy.

I mean, for real, how can they {blacks} continue to believe all this hogswaddle? No one {elitist pols & media} give a damn about black on black crime, but ohhhh boy, let some white guy shoot and kill an “innocent” black, and the whole effing black community goes nuts!

Smart Power at work I guess…

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:17 AM

It’s a bit of a shame that most posters here will still stand with the Ferguson PD cause they just don’t like black people.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Two can play that game …

It’s a bit of a shame that libfreeordie will stand with the black protesters cause he just likes looting and burning down QuikTrips.

PackerBronco on August 14, 2014 at 2:18 AM

Defense Secretary: ‘The World is Exploding All Over’

Fresh off a trip to India and Australia, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel addressed a group of Marines in San Diego, California Tuesday, and may have delivered a line that will show up in Republican campaign ads this election cycle. After updating the troops on some issues in the Pacific region and the Middle East, Hagel took questions from some of the Marines and gave a stark assessment of the global security situation: “The world is exploding all over.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/defense-secretary-world-exploding-all-over_802893.html

cat_owner on August 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM

I am gonna crawl back into my hidey hole…

God Bless you all and I bid thee a Good Night!!

** pop **

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Seriously? With all that is going on in the Middle East you are posting about what is happening in a suburb of St. Louis? This is ridiculous. The Quotes of the Day should be about the bigger picture going on in the world.

Theophile on August 14, 2014 at 2:26 AM

God Bless you all and I bid thee a Good Night!!
** pop **
Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Niters and sleep well, Scrumpy!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:27 AM

Are You Ready For The Country?

novaculus on August 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Dropping in for a pit stop. Looks like a slow night…

OmahaConservative on August 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Good night Scrump. I’m out too. Good night HA!

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:32 AM

The Quotes of the Day should be about the bigger picture going on in the world.
Theophile on August 14, 2014 at 2:26 AM

When it’s your turn to do a QOTD, you can choose what you want to do with it. Until then, I leave you with this to stick in your pipe and smoke:

Quotes of the day
posted at 8:01 pm on August 10, 2014 by Allahpundit

Oh, and other recent HA threads

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:32 AM

The Holders and Obamas and Sharptons of this world will do what it takes to stir up the black masses, they and the media are all too successful at this.

Some MAY actually do, and are looking for “Justice”, but the most part a lot of people are just trying to live their lives, work, etc, just like the rest of u…in peace without the time for the BS.

It’s time blacks found some smarts, and stop this idiocy.

You have to remember, Scrumpy, quite a few of the ones rioting don’t give a hang about who shot whom, as long as they can exploit it for their own ends.

I mean, for real, how can they {blacks} continue to believe all this hogswaddle? No one {elitist pols & media} give a damn about black on black crime, but ohhhh boy, let some white guy shoot and kill an “innocent” black, and the whole effing black community goes nuts!

Smart Power at work I guess…

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 2:17 AM

It’s more of media sensationalism than anything else…I would direct you to read/watch “The Bonfire of the Vanities” if you want a classic example.

I wish I could give a better idea, but truly I can understand some will keep quiet in the face of it because, frankly they ARE afraid to speak out…being the odd person out to complain that some of these protestors are full of crap will not win you a lot of friends and influence people.

You really, think the media is going to run to a Allan West or to CORE to get an opposing view to a Sharpton, Jackson, NBPP, or the NAACP? Nope, it doesn’t fit their viewpoint, and the viewpoint is that Blacks will ALWAYS need protection..read: coddling..no MATER what happens.

As I stated before, if it turns out that there is hard proof the office needed to use lethal force, and he’s exonerated by the local PD & the DOJ, do you think any of the aforementioned agitators will accept that…or those that looted and burned?

Nope, they’ll STILL scream “COVER UP! RACISM! no matter the outcome…and how the hell do you combat that kind of mule-hardheadedness?

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:33 AM

Good night Scrump. I’m out too. Good night HA!
KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Niters and sleep well, Ken!

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:33 AM

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:16 AM

we tested these in the early 90′s..
built by two firm that no longer exist
Hughes Aircraft/Marquardt

http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?object=nasm_A20050460000

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:34 AM

Are You Ready For The Country?
novaculus on August 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Nova, you have been tonight’s Unsung Hero! Thank you… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:34 AM

New school song for schools nationwide: Simon & Garfunkel’s “Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H997IZkkO4Y

BuckeyeSam on August 14, 2014 at 2:35 AM

Good Night Beauty ;-)

KCB on August 14, 2014 at 2:35 AM

Nope, they’ll STILL scream “COVER UP! RACISM! no matter the outcome…and how the hell do you combat that kind of mule-hardheadedness?
BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:33 AM

You can’t, as long as the race baiters can make $$$ and get their names and faces splashed all over the media. One of these days, though, even the sheeple will wake up and find out how badly they’ve been had and been used to line others’ pockets.

Pity neither you or I will be around when that happens… :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Gun Sales up in Wake of Ferguson, MO shooting…

In other news, water is still wet, and the sky has yet to turn blue.

This is journalism in the 21st Century people…I’m sure Vox will be Voxsplaining it to us knuckle-draggers shortly.

Sigh…

But, in the same vein, I have decided on getting a AR-15 build for myself since I found a few companies that sell a .22LR conversion kit that will work well.

Downside is, the damn licensing, transfer fees and stamps ALONE will cost as much as the damn rifle itself once I have it “tricked” out the way I want to…WTF?

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:39 AM

OmahaConservative on August 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Slow enough?

Motor City Is Burning

novaculus on August 14, 2014 at 2:40 AM

But, in the same vein, I have decided on getting a AR-15 build for myself since I found a few companies that sell a .22LR conversion kit that will work well.
Downside is, the damn licensing, transfer fees and stamps ALONE will cost as much as the damn rifle itself once I have it “tricked” out the way I want to…WTF?
BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:39 AM

It’ll shoot straight, right?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:43 AM

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:34 AM

I remember faintly there was a Theater-Level SAM system, based off the Patriot that was supposed to use a hypersonic dart to target incoming ballistic warheads…can’t remember the damn program name, so into the archive I will go at some point, probably not tonite though…

Hey, remember the “Brilliant Pebbles” program?

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:45 AM

they have been working on these since the early 80′s,,
and today another new contract..

http://defense-update.com/20140813_laser-gbad.html#.U-xaxfHD_ns

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Grand Funk Choo-Choo – Gimme Shelter

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

[sends out a round of Whatchudrinkin's...usual caveats apply...enters under "Nightcap Special"...]

[tosses bar keys to Blax and Nova...]

Those with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:49 AM

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:45 AM

my 2:34 post was a Brilliant Pebble…
ours was smaller than the Rockwell design…

here’s early 90′s test video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ktcShww8rM

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:50 AM

It’ll shoot straight, right?

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:43 AM

As long as I can pull the trigger, it will! :o)

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:50 AM

sleep well NatB…. be safe.

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:51 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:49 AM

Good Night my dear…you’ve been a gracious Hostess, with the Mostess…but I wasn’t staring TOO much, I swear!… :)

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:52 AM

here’s early 90′s test video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ktcShww8rM

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:50 AM

Wow damned cool…!

You got to work on the development team for this too?…What was that like?

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:54 AM

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 2:54 AM

I was at Hughes for 5 years… Radar systems group
they were hiring “contractors” for twice the direct rates..
so I heard that Marquardt was looking for people
and I went contracting and left hughes…doubled my rate..
when I got to the Marquardt Co in van nuys they were just
unpacking boxes of new computers.. they had never worked on..
At hughes we were on that system for years..
so I quickly became semi important..
I ended up getting 5 of my buds from hughes in
and that is what we designed.. LEAP..
was a cool gig… it has 12 rocket motors on it. lots of plumbing..

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:01 AM

LOL…and here I thought I was the sh*t for building spud guns…lol

So what really killed off the program? It wasn’t the tech, looks like you guys proved it was viable. So it either had to be $$$ or politics.

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 3:07 AM

Ken, Newtie, Hey you :)

Scrumpy on August 14, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Scrumpy, Oh Chrissy – Why Hast Thou Forsaken Us?!

….good to SEE you, Girl!

williamg on August 14, 2014 at 3:19 AM

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 3:07 AM

this is more current…
we made the GBU in this ‘spud gun’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpm7_INvUHM#t=83

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:20 AM

here’s the vid of the WaPo guy’s ordeal tonight at the hands of the fascistic Ferguson police/pigs.

boy, he’ll have stories to tell his party goers over the holidays this year…Street Cred Plus

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/post-reporter-detained-in-ferguson/2014/08/13/b0fc5720-2354-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_video.html

so let’s see, your in the middle of a riot zone, with people that have Molotov cocktails…and your little boy self decides to have a hissy fit with a big bad father figure

I realize that ‘righteous’ conservatives, e.g. Guy Benson, Reason Mag, MKH, have to wring their hands about the big scary tactical units, I mean its the stylish thing to do…but in the face of property destroying mob with Molotov cocktails, and a taste for arson and shooting off the guns…and a community at risk, not to mention the jobs people have lost..what’s a good cop to do?

color me unimpressed.

r keller on August 14, 2014 at 3:21 AM

In North Korea they execute anyone caught listening to Flock of Seagulls.

At least they got that right.

Bishop on August 14, 2014 at 12:42 AM

….yeah….there IS that……

williamg on August 14, 2014 at 3:22 AM

here’s early 90′s test video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ktcShww8rM

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 2:50 AM

…..that is a cool thing…….I work on the peaceful side the applications of the Laws of Physics….but I still appreciate those Differential Equations……

…..we should talk sometime….

williamg on August 14, 2014 at 3:25 AM

Rick Wakeman – Songs of Middle Earth

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Newtie…..Rick Wakeman…..memories of my first Yes Concert in ’74……….

….hey even though I might appreciate an expresso more – you still send me out a round of Whatshehavin’s, ya’ know……….

williamg on August 14, 2014 at 3:27 AM

just in from reuters..

“East Ukrainian rebels say shelling heavy around Donetsk stronghold”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-ukraine-crisis-shelling-idUSKBN0GE0IU20140814

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:35 AM

this is more current…
we made the GBU in this ‘spud gun’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpm7_INvUHM#t=83

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:20 AM

o_0

Damned impressive indeed…!

Sigh…you ALWAYS get the cool toys…lol

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 3:39 AM

BlaxPac on August 14, 2014 at 3:39 AM

that last one did not get picked up by the DOD…
so they are looking for…. customers…

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:48 AM

“North Korea launches several missiles into the sea to coincide with a visit by Pope Francis to South Korea”

http://news.sky.com/story/1318350/n-korea-fires-missiles-as-pope-visits-south

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 3:52 AM

that’s long beach as in USA…

“Hamas Supporters Try to Blockade Israeli Ship in Long Beach”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/13/Hamas-Supporters-Try-to-Blockade-Israeli-Ship-in-Long-Beach

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 4:10 AM

ebola news..

“Korean Air Lines says it will suspend flights to and from Nairobi, Kenya, to prevent spread of Ebola – @Reuters”

“Nigerian woman being tested in Singapore on suspicion of having Ebola”

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/health/story/first-suspected-ebola-case-singapore-20140814

going2mars on August 14, 2014 at 4:13 AM

Exactly, and if you bad-mouth her or question her motives, you’ll get deleted or banned. Have as much respect as the Romney camp has had for her. It’s a far better way to honor her son’s memory than lashing out at her because she happens to like Obama or not like Romney.
Mary Katharine Ham on October 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/10/romney-wont-tell-story-of-meeting-former-seal-killed-in-benghazi-after-seals-mom-objects/comment-page-2/

Recent events reminded me of that Mary Katharine Ham comment.

I’ve always thought Mary Katharine Ham seemed like a more natural fit for MSNBC (as opposed to Fox), given the fact that, through her tv commentary and online work, she often seems eager to appear acceptable to liberal media colleagues.

Also, there are a couple of prolific, feisty commenters, who love to mix it up with conservatives, on here with screen names Joana and Meredith. MKH’s comments remind me of theirs. Feisty comments like theirs sure keep people on their toes.

bluegill on August 14, 2014 at 4:21 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen.

crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 4:39 AM

Good morning Col and the rest of the HA family

Tired of this card being used….yes there are some bad apples but folks take it to the extremes way too many times….

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:02 AM

These journalists are bloody heroes in the lsm eyes this am

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:04 AM

Except for Joe’s …..don’t debate with the cops….

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:08 AM

The cops are too heavy handed down in Ferguson
-the rest of the mj panel

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Via twitchy
Ferguson is obamas Katrina

Folks not happy with obama partying while Ferguson burns

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:27 AM

Folks not happy with obama partying while Ferguson burns

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:27 AM

What do they think he could do about it.

crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 6:49 AM

The cops are too heavy handed down in Ferguson
-the rest of the mj panel

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Bethca that not one member of the Morning Jew crew has ever been to Ferguson. How do they know how “heavy handed” the cops are. Especially after days of blacks looting, rioting, and destroying the community!

Which really brings up the problem. The blacks want a good old-fashioned lynching right now. They don’t want to waste time on investigations, rule of law, or the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. NO! They want to string up some white cop now and they won’t be happy until they do.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:01 AM

We are beholden to no other nation. America stands on its own, with our own set of laws , The Constitution of the United States. – KJ

My take: The Ferguson Riots, The United Nations, and Our Nation’s Sovereignty

kingsjester on August 14, 2014 at 7:03 AM

Folks not happy with obama partying while Ferguson burns

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 6:27 AM

What do they think he could do about it.
crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 6:49 AM

What could he have done when his racist pal got arrested because the Cambridge PD treated him like a normal person? What could he have done when a worthless street thug in Florida got what he deserved by messing with a “cracker.” What could he have done when a slut/whore was called a slut/whore in the media?

Obama is seen as the black messiah. He is supposed to be all powerful and able to put whites in their place. He should send federal agents to Ferguson, pull that cop out of his home, and summarily execute him for no other reason than thats what blacks wnat this morning.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM

It’s the same old thing where they think the government should have their fingers in everything.

crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 7:21 AM

crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 6:49 AM

don’t know….but they sure are not happy

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:01 AM

that was my thought, have they been down there…i sure don’t know what the situation is like there

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:26 AM

kingsjester on August 14, 2014 at 7:03 AM

great take KJ

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM

that was my thought, have they been down there…i sure don’t know what the situation is like there

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:26 AM

We do know that the blacks showed up last night with molotov cocktails and gas masks. Every day this goes on the differences between these black “protesters” and Hamas are becoming less distinct.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen.

crankyoldlady on August 14, 2014 at 4:39 AM

Morning COL and 84F and low humidity. Great weather if it was December!!! It was 59F this morning and I decided to try the heater in the truck since it has not been used in six months. Whew, my word something must of died on the heater core as good gawd what a terrible smell for 10 minutes.

Looks like traffic is down lately on the QOTD. Wonder what is up? Hope you have a good day and good vibes to all others.

HonestLib on August 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 7:35 AM

just heard that on the tv…

reading KJ’s take, brown was trying take the cop’s gun, you don’t hear that on the tv….

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:43 AM

What would MLK Jr. have done?

Cleombrotus on August 14, 2014 at 7:51 AM

I saw a quote on FB by Harry Browne. The name sounded familiar but I just couldn’t place it, so I looked him up. Ah, yes. He was the perennial Libertarian Party presidential candidate. I think hubby threw a few votes his way. His quotes are spot on:

I want a government small enough to fit inside the Constitution.

You can’t give the government the power to do good without also giving it the power to do bad – in fact, to do anything it wants.

The free market punishes irresponsibility. Government rewards it.

Republicans campaign like Libertarians and govern like Democrats.

:-)

Fallon on August 14, 2014 at 7:53 AM

Oops, linky.

Fallon on August 14, 2014 at 7:54 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on August 14, 2014 at 2:08 AM

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:43 AM

If reports I read yesterday are accurate, the cop was attacked by two or more African American men who pushed him down inside his cruiser (not for milk and cookies) and his sidearm discharged. He battled his way out of the cruiser pushing his assailants out and off of him and then he discharged his sidearm several more times. Anyone in that situation not afraid for their lives would be an imbecile.

The media should stop saying the thugs were unarmed. They attacked him with their fists, and as we all know all it takes is one correctly placed hit to the head to kill a man.

If the reports are accurate, the cop was justified. But the mob doesn’t care about that.

They use their fake victim status to justify their animalistic behavior, thievery and violence.

They LIE to give themselves license to brutalize others, steal and destroy.

dogsoldier on August 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM

reading KJ’s take, brown was trying take the cop’s gun, you don’t hear that on the tv….

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:43 AM

That’s the stuff that comes out during investigations. Way too late to counter the victimhood of Brown in the media where he is being called a gentle giant with heavy emphasis on the fact he just got his GED and (apparently) doesn’t leave behind a string of illegitimate children.

That graduation photo of Brown is going to be used the way the media used those very old pictures of Trayvon Martin to paint a picture of an innocent gunned down by racists. It is only a matter of time before Oprah or some other racist starts making comparisons between Brown and Emmett Till.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2014 at 8:01 AM

http://buzzpo.com/breaking-ferguson-police-chief-releases-astonishing-new-information-michael-brown-shooting/

Jackson said Brown was with a friend at an apartment complex when the officer attempted to get out of his cruiser. The teen reportedly initiated an altercation, pushing the officer back into the vehicle and struggling to retrieve his weapon. The fatal shot was then fired from within the car. The obvious injuries to the officer prove that there was indeed a severe altercation. Chief Jackson is not releasing the Ferguson Police Officers identity at this time for obvious reasons.

dogsoldier on August 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM

Thanks dogsoldier……

Facts schmacts apparently

Guaranteed HN

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 8:16 AM

Thank you for the latest dogsoldier…….crickets from lsm

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 8:17 AM

cmsinaz on August 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

Thanks, dogsoldier!

kingsjester on August 14, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Want to hear something ironic?

I’m having the fence in my back yard expanded, adding another 60 feet or so. The posts were set last week, the guys are here today to stretch the fence.

Guess what….the crew has 2 illegals on it. Illegals. Installing a fence. Yes, the one non illegal, American, acknowledges their lack of legality.

Does anyone give a rats behind? Nope. Apparently there aren’t any American workers out there anymore, just like there are no borders anymore.

Going to go soak my trigger finger in cortizone creme.

Diluculo on August 14, 2014 at 9:36 AM

bluegill on August 14, 2014 at 1:28 AM

I agree the comment was uncalled for.

cat_owner on August 14, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Agreed. It’s not the first time either. MKH needs to grow up already. When she threatens the commentariat she sounda hysterical.

Some of you like to just beat up on bluegill, even if she makes very cogent points.

Schadenfreude on August 14, 2014 at 12:20 PM

bluegill, for your grins

Schadenfreude on August 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM

…the family did not cooperate with the police.

Most people won’t cooperate with the enemy. And for most blacks, cops ARE the enemy for a reason.

earlgrey on August 14, 2014 at 2:28 PM

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