Video: Riot tears through Missouri town over police shooting

posted at 10:41 am on August 11, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

It started as a vigil protest, and ended in teargas and looting. The shooting of an unarmed black teen in Ferguson, Missouri had the city on edge, and last night it exploded in anger:

CBS reported on the aftermath this morning:

A day of anger over a fatal police shooting of an unarmed black teen in suburban St. Louis turned to mayhem as people looted businesses, vandalized vehicles and confronted police in riot gear who tried to block access to parts of the city.

The tensions erupted after a candlelight vigil Sunday night for 18-year-old Michael Brown, who police said was shot multiple times Saturday after a scuffle involving the officer, Brown and another person in Ferguson, a predominantly black suburb of the city.

CBS affiliate KMOV-TV in St. Louis reports at least 12 businesses near the shooting scene were looted, including a convenience store, a check-cashing store, a boutique and a small grocery store. People took items from a sporting goods store and a cellphone retailer, and carted rims away from a tire store.

TV footage showed streams of people walking from a liquor store carrying bottles of alcohol, and in some cases protesters stood atop police cars or taunted officers who stood stoic, some carrying shields and batons. Video posted online by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a convenience store on fire.

So far, it appears that no one died or got seriously injured during the riot, although that hasn’t been entirely confirmed yet. If so, consider that luck. Riots get very ugly very quickly, and usually include vendettas from old conflicts and new. That was the case in the LA riots of 1992 after the Rodney King verdict, which resulted in 53 deaths, more than two thousand injuries, and 11,000 arrests.

In the end, though, the LA riots did what the Ferguson riot did last night — damage the community that had the grievance in the first place. Riots are about rage and insanity, not justice or accountability, and it drives people away rather than heal, regardless of whether the underlying cause is just or not. It destroys investment, usually in areas which already suffer from a lack of investment in the first place, and mires the area even deeper into poverty and dysfunction. It’s senseless and harms the people that were allegedly victimized in the first place.

The riot will transform this shooting into a national issue now, if it hadn’t already. It will be interesting to see whether the police cars had dash cams or other surveillance technology that could have captured the incident (or perhaps cameras from nearby businesses), but it will most likely hinge on the eyewitness testimony. Don’t expect that to convince either side of the other’s arguments.


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If we go off stereotypes for all the races:

Why are serial killers predominantly white?

Why is it if you break up with a black man you might get your ass beat, but break up with a white guy and your body might end up in pieces scattered across 7 states?

Stop with the generalizations about races. Some of you suggesting all blacks are thugs, when reality is 15%-20% of the black community terrorizes the rest.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Strangely enough out here in my hick exurb even mentioning you might want to riot would have about a dozen muzzles resting on your skull within 30 seconds.

All those poor people just trying to run a business and along comes the Oppression Brigade to wipe out everything.

This is like Pakistan without the obvious targeting of KFC’s.

Bishop on August 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Yeah, but don’t you have veterans living there?

Can’t blame the police for being cautious with people like that around.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I was at a WalMart in Milford, DE, a couple of days ago. They have these sign on the light poles stating that video cameras were in use.

They were all in Spanish.

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

If we go off stereotypes for all the races:

Why are serial killers predominantly white?

Why is it if you break up with a black man you might get your ass beat, but break up with a white guy and your body might end up in pieces scattered across 7 states?

Stop with the generalizations about races. Some of you suggesting all blacks are thugs, when reality is 15%-20% of the black community terrorizes the rest.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime/

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

His arguments consist of ideological justifications for violence, so in that sense, they’re not “illogical” at all.

vlad martel on August 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM

But in his infinite wisdom he wants to disarm the very people he wants to carry forth this violence for his stupid ideology.

This is why American leftist are the stupidest (and laziest) people on the planet. At least Communist Russians and Chinese worked hard to win their stupid revolutions. Can you imagine “Libfree” doing the “long march” with Mao? LOL…

William Eaton on August 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Claire McCaskill, your voting base is calling. Claire McCaskill, please answer the phone.

SouthernGent on August 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Well, then you can give me a comprehensive list of riots and the races involved? Please note that if you read all the way through what I wrote, I said that other people riot as well. But if you hear there was a riot, and you had even odds on whether it was black people or another group of people who were the rioters, you would go broke saying other and get rich saying blacks.
Blacks are the PREDOMINANT rioters in this nation with Illegal aliens probably coming in a distant second.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Why are serial killers predominantly white? Spouses who kill their partners for insurance/custody of kids predominantly white?

Generalizations serve no purpose. Yes black thugs account for a lot of riots, just like white liberal Occupy zealots, or environmental Naazis, anti-war zealots, etc, etc.

However painting the whole community with a broad brush only alienantes potential allies like me. There are plenty more conservatives in the black community who would join ranks with the GOP if they didn’t see sh,it like this grouping them all in together with the thugs that terrorize our communities.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Trayvon Martin was close to his father.
Jordan Davis was close to his father
Jonathan Ferguson was close to this father.

Also the idea of the “absent black father” is, at this point, purely a racist mythology that those on the left and right propagate in defiance of the data:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/20/local/la-me-black-dads-20131221

I know, I know, facts don’t jive with white supremacy, but that’s never stopped you before RWM.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

From the most discredited commenter on Hotair.

I don’t think you’ve ever managed to post a linked “fact” that wasn’t total bunk.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime/
davidk on August 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I conceded that point already, yes I’m familiar with violence in the black community. I just don’t get the point you’re making?

Liberal policies have destroyed the black community.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

However painting the whole community with a broad brush only alienantes potential allies like me. There are plenty more conservatives in the black community who would join ranks with the GOP if they didn’t see sh,it like this grouping them all in together with the thugs that terrorize our communities.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

We have heard that for years.

Excusing behavior like this is disgusting.

Just stop.

tetriskid on August 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Sorry CTD, this analysis is only meant to explain white anger at the state, black people are supposed to smile and take it.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

By looting local businesses? That had nothing to do with the shooting? Way to speak truth to power!

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

There’s a biological basis for what you refer to as “stereotypes”.

Blacks possess 10x more of the dysfunctional MAOA gene (warrior gene) that is associated with violent and/or impulsive behavior. Asians have nearly no incidence of the MAOA gene for comparison.

Blacks are inherently more violent and impulsive then other races. Yep, I’m a racist. But facts are facts.

Blacks also have the lowest IQ. Google “race and IQ”. Blacks are also the only race with no DNA from the large-brained and tool-using Neanderthals.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Yes most of those links lead to whote supremacy sites.

The one with the DNA is from an author named “whitemanforwhiteland”

And you wonder why the GOP only gets 5%-10% of the black vote, when about 25% of the black community is conservative?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Because whites have more patience than blacks? Blacks act out of rage. There is a major difference between serial killings and rioting and simple murder.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

We have heard that for years.

Excusing behavior like this is disgusting.

Just stop.

tetriskid on August 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

I’m not excusing anything. The criminals within the black community need to be held accountable.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

 
I understand your “stereotype” point, but
 

• In a nationally representative survey conducted in 1996, 29% of African American women and 12% of African American men reported at least one instance of violence from an intimate partner.
 
http://www.idvaac.org/media/publications/FactSheet.IDVAAC_AAPCFV-Community%20Insights.pdf

But others who study serial killers (defined as someone who kills 3 or more people) think there are many more of these demented predators out there than the FBI admits to — maybe as many as a hundred of them actively operating right now.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-dimond/orange-county-serial-killer_b_1222710.html

 
30% of a population vs maybe 100 people nationwide isn’t the best way to make a point about stereotypes. It manages to reinforce the opposite, frankly.
 
I’m still genuinely interested in why you linked to Wikipedia’s “civil unrest” entry instead of “riot” when discussing the racial element of riots, btw.

rogerb on August 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Because whites have more patience than blacks? Blacks act out of rage. There is a major difference between serial killings and rioting and simple murder.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Killing your pregnant wife, so you can cheat (Scott Peterson), killing your wife for insurance (Numerous), Serial killings (Numerous).

Pedophiles again predominantly white.

By your logic whites are more likely to exhibit psychopathic/narcissistic personalities

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

because nothing heals the old wounds of racism better than a new set of STOLEN rims.

slickwillie2001 on August 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM

FIFY

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

I’m not excusing anything. The criminals within the black community need to be held accountable.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

That is a little different than your “white people are bad too” angle.

tetriskid on August 11, 2014 at 1:13 PM

In his defense, he doesn’t read what he links.

rogerb on August 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Ha ha ha.

He actually admitted as much once. When someone (as happens EVERY time) reads what he links and reports that fascistordie lied about it’s content or debunks it’s content he tends to leave threads. Once he said he just posted his “fact link” for yuks to see if anyone would read it.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:13 PM

30% of a population vs maybe 100 people nationwide isn’t the best way to make a point about stereotypes. It manages to reinforce the opposite, frankly.

I’m still genuinely interested in why you linked to Wikipedia’s “civil unrest” entry instead of “riot” when discussing the racial element of riots, btw.

rogerb on August 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Pedophiles are predominantly white. Guys who off their wives are predominantly white.

Yes blacks beat on women, but don’t kill them.

The riots are simple like was posted by another poster there are just as many riots by non-blacks too.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

There’s a biological basis for what you refer to as “stereotypes”.

Blacks possess 10x more of the dysfunctional MAOA gene (warrior gene) that is associated with violent and/or impulsive behavior. Asians have nearly no incidence of the MAOA gene for comparison.

Jesus on a Surfboard…WTF did you come up with THIS crap?

So, while my dad served 2 1/2 tours in Vietnam, all those VC sob’s weren’t really shooting at him, they were welcoming him and his friends to the Liberated, Chill zone?

Okay, so maybe that would explain all the fireworks during Tet- I’ll be happy to tell him they werm’t trying to kill American GI’s.

Christ.

Blacks are inherently more violent and impulsive then other races. Yep, I’m a racist. But facts are facts.

You are a lot of things…and I got quite a few words for it: but racists would be as good as any other.

Blacks also have the lowest IQ. Google “race and IQ”. Blacks are also the only race with no DNA from the large-brained and tool-using Neanderthals.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Low IQ huh? I’m sure Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Alan West and Ben Carson will be relieved to know that’s why they never succeeded…

Oh, wait a tic…

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Libby has taken the path of Professor Derrick Bell in preaching Critical Race Theory for profit. Anything that attacks the premiss of CRT is really an attack on Libby’s wallet and state of being. Truth is way down the list.

Sadly it is folks like Libby with their greed that harms minorities the most. Greed for me, but not for thee.

HonestLib on August 11, 2014 at 12:02 PM

+1000

This is why I laugh every time libby opines on “income inequality” – he lives off the state redistributing money from people poorer than him (via taxation or student loans) to his bank account.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

All races riot. Don’t judge the whole black community by a few lawless thugs who are using this as an excuse to be lawless.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM

I call BS on this one. Almost all riots are done by blacks in the past 50 years..Watts, Detroit, Newark, Miami, LA after Rodney King etc.

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Cincinnati 2002.

LashRambo on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I’m not excusing anything. The criminals within the black community need to be held accountable.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Some people will understand. Others will ignore that information.

Ignorant morons will chide it.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Huh?

The fact that as humans migrated from Africa and mated with the large-brained and tool-using Neanderthals is fact. Only blacks possess no Neanderthal DNA. I’m sure National Geographic, Scientific American and even the NY Times has reported it.

The IQ data is also mainstream. The IQ tests always report the same racial hierarchy. That’s how to explain the so-called “achievement gap”, but nobody wants to admit it.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Doing a google search just by the text you provided me leads me to white supremacists sites. And a lot of what you posted was also posted on a forum by a poster with the name “whitemanforwhiteland.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

No probs, my friend. I wrote a lot about the feral, fatherless children during the London riots. Those kids were born to single teenagers, who were also born to single teenagers. Generations have lived on the dole and, all too often, the children are left to raise themselves because their mums are addicts. Dad is nowhere to be found.

Into that toxic soup come the politicians that tell them that their plights are the fault of corporations, ‘banksters,’ Israel, and the evil rich.

It is rinse, lather, and repeat generation after generation. The pols rise in power, fame, and fortune while the throwaways live and die – unnoticed – in a cycle of abandonment, poverty and violence.

If only liveenslavedthendie could look at societal problems without race glasses! It doesn’t matter the country or, in many cases, even the race. Children that grow up in fatherless households are doomed to repeat the cycle of poverty. Very few make it out successfully.

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

George Gilder pointed out that if/when the family fails we’ll need a welfare state to care for the women and children and a police state to deal with the “men”.

The progressives reverse engineered it.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:18 PM

black people are supposed to smile and take it.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Too bad there are not riots every weekend in Chicago when the killers are other blacks…but keep smiling and taking it.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I call BS on this one. Almost all riots are done by blacks in the past 50 years..Watts, Detroit, Newark, Miami, LA after Rodney King etc.

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

OWS types Seattle and New York, not black Downtown Dallas 1984, not black.

There are others, mostly when a sports team wins, or loses, a championship.

Only an idiot would blame rioting on melanin.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Blacks have 10x more of the so-called “warrior gene” that causes violence and impulsivity. Asians have nearly no incidence of this dysfunctional gene, for example…

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

10x more of the warrior gene huh? That sound real scientific.

Ed, can we get some cleanup here?

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

However painting the whole community with a broad brush only alienantes potential allies like me. There are plenty more conservatives in the black community who would join ranks with the GOP if they didn’t see sh,it like this grouping them all in together with the thugs that terrorize our communities.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

There are plenty who would find it easier sailing to throw those of us who are black but NOT leftists out of consideration, because they’re already completely in “Let It Burn” mode, and when those thugs get to rioting, and the New Black Panthers get to screaming about a “race war”, let’s face it. Whites (and Asians, and even Latinos for that matter) aren’t going to ask if we’re conservative blacks or not if they see us after the s*** hits the fan. They’re just going to shoot.

If a store owner who just had his business trashed and looted sees me walk by, do you think he’s really going to care what my actual personality is like, and that Urban Thug Culture personally disgusts me?

No. He’s not going to give a damn. He’s going to take one look at my skin color, by immediately suspicious, and slip his hands under the counter and put his finger on the trigger.

HikaruKitsune on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

That is a little different than your “white people are bad too” angle.

tetriskid on August 11, 2014 at 1:13 PM

If you read through my posts, my POINT you would see that I was using the reasoning of some of the posters who blamed the black community for everything from their favorite football team suckig, to the Cubs not winning the World series in over 100+ years, to their favorite grocery store not stocking their favorite milk.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

However painting the whole community with a broad brush only alienantes potential allies like me. There are plenty more conservatives in the black community who would join ranks with the GOP if they didn’t see sh,it like this grouping them all in together with the thugs that terrorize our communities.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

That’s BS, what is wrong is wrong…

And the fact that people do “group them together” should be a wake up call for the black community. Not just saying it is wrong, or racist.

There is a real reason for that attitude, because riots like this are almost always owned by the black community.

Until the gay community finally came out and many of them voicing objection to NAMBLA, the same with them.

The same with Muslim’s and Islamists, until they, as a force, stand up and attack, actually fight against what they are being stereotyped with, it will persist…it’s not the “white” community that has stereotyped, it’s that the black community allows that stereotype to persist.

They want the “whites” to stop the stereotyping, well pal, it’s up to you to stop the actions that keep that stereotype alive.

The Irish did it, Vietnamese, Chinese, Jews, Poles, Italian’s, they all were stereotyped, and still are, they just don’t buy into it like you do.

They embraced OJ, Travon, and most any black criminal, hoping to find a way for them to be exonerated…when a “white” perpetrator is caught, we make no bones…hang him.

A white “doctor” who does illicit abortions, go get him…any “white” criminal, take him down, you ever see whites riots in the street for a wife beater, a man taken down by the police?

You, and your ilk, have to pull your head out of the sand, and realize that you are doing this to yourself…it’s your actions.

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Our city has about a 50/50 racial diversity. I’ve lived in this town for seven years.

Logus on August 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Races in Ferguson, MO

Black alone – 13,753 (64.9%)
White alone – 6,494 (30.6%)
Two or more races – 437 (2.1%)
Asian alone – 263 (1.2%)
Hispanic – 156 (0.7%)
American Indian alone – 34 (0.2%)
Other race alone – 45 (0.2%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone – 23 (0.1%)

http://www.city-data.com/city/Ferguson-Missouri.html

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

With ideas like this I weep for our future.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

The fact that police murdering an unarmed black teen didn’t make this a national news story, but vandalism against inanimate property does is the point. Ed and the rest of you can’t quite grasp that.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM

How many unarmed black teens are shot in Chicago in the span of a single week? Those are never national news stories either.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 11, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Even conservative blacks vote Democratic and keep harming their community.

95%+ blacks voted for the moron Obama.

You reap what you sow.

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 1:24 PM

check your facts Pinkbullet, stop spreading mythical lies, more serial killers are black than white, has been that way since the 80s

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf

Mitochondrion on August 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM

The fact that police murdering an unarmed black teen didn’t make this a national news story,
libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM

You’re liar- as is the norm. I heard about the killing of Michael Brown right after it happened and well before the riots.

You are dishonest and you don’t care about the truth. FO.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM
BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Love you guys … in a non-psychopathic sort of way. If I could part the dirty water you have to wade through …

M240H on August 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Blacks have 10x more of the so-called “warrior gene” that causes violence and impulsivity. Asians have nearly no incidence of this dysfunctional gene, for example…

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

You are a F’in moron…I would like to see your gene pool…I would imagine everyone pissed in your pool…

I guess Ghengis Khan, or Pol Pot were not “Asians”…good grief…

Warrior gene….HAHAHAHAHA!!! the idiocy…what do the Joooos have, the “Greedy gene”….

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM

**You’re a liar.

BTW I don’t live anywhere near Ferguson or Missouri b*tch.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM

rogerb on August 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Pedophiles are predominantly white. Guys who off their wives are predominantly white.

 
One would hope they’d be the predominant ones. That would be truly horrible if ~12% of the population did more than about about 12% of those actions.
 

Yes blacks beat on women, but don’t kill them.

 
It’s possible you’ve fallen prey to stereotyping.
 

African Americans account for a disproportionate number of intimate partner homicides. In 2005, African Americans accounted for almost 1/3 of the intimate partner homicides in this country.
 
http://www.idvaac.org/media/publications/FactSheet.IDVAAC_AAPCFV-Community%20Insights.pdf

 
I agree that 33% is definitely not predominant, though.
 

The riots are simple like was posted by another poster there are just as many riots by non-blacks too.
 
Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

 
Except you didn’t link to the Wikipedia riot entry. You linked to the Wikipedia “civil unrest” entry, when the “riot” option existed. I’m just curious why.

rogerb on August 11, 2014 at 1:27 PM

There are plenty who would find it easier sailing to throw those of us who are black but NOT leftists out of consideration, because they’re already completely in “Let It Burn” mode, and when those thugs get to rioting, and the New Black Panthers get to screaming about a “race war”, let’s face it. Whites (and Asians, and even Latinos for that matter) aren’t going to ask if we’re conservative blacks or not if they see us after the s*** hits the fan. They’re just going to shoot.

If a store owner who just had his business trashed and looted sees me walk by, do you think he’s really going to care what my actual personality is like, and that Urban Thug Culture personally disgusts me?

No. He’s not going to give a damn. He’s going to take one look at my skin color, by immediately suspicious, and slip his hands under the counter and put his finger on the trigger.

HikaruKitsune on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Ok agreed, we all have prejudices. If I was walking home alone at night and saw a white person, I’d feel a lot safer, than if I saw a black person behind me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

With ideas like this I weep for our future.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM

You and me both.

It’s so over-the-top, it’s gotta be a Progressive sock…not that it makes it any better.

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I conceded that point already, yes I’m familiar with violence in the black community. I just don’t get the point you’re making?

Liberal policies have destroyed the black community.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Stop with the generalizations about races. Some of you suggesting all blacks are thugs, when reality is 15%-20% of the black community terrorizes the rest.

?? You have stats for that assertion?

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Hey, Adolf, your watercolors suck.

M240H on August 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

I also love that posters here will eagerly predict when “the people will rise up,” but when the people do rise up, then the tea party becomes pro state power via policing.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM

The revolution will not be televised (because all of the televisions will be stolen.)

TarasBulbous on August 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Pal, when you quote from a site, at least put it in quotes and let us know what foolish site you are lifting this from…video below, yeah, I can just imagine.

And women came from the rib of a man, which is why man has one less rib than women…

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! You crack me up…Keep posting you are F’in brilliant.

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

As far as Jews go, that’s not the case, but the absolute number of White gentiles with IQ’s above 140 is much larger than for Jews due to the much larger population. No racial population on this planet, including the Jews, exceeds in the absolute number of Whites with IQ’s above 140.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM

That is your cue that his whole shtick is stolen directly from white supremacist sites.

Including the “jews” shtick.

Is there a reason we are not banning this person? Or is this going to turn into a “white supremacist thread”?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Why are serial killers predominantly white?

Why is it if you break up with a black man you might get your ass beat, but break up with a white guy and your body might end up in pieces scattered across 7 states?

Whoa — now you’re the one proferring easily correctable nonsense.

vlad martel on August 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

?? You have stats for that assertion?

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Yeah the stat is me living in the “Pork and Beans” projects in Miami a while back.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Young, unemployed, FATHERLESS males.

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Trayvon Martin was close to his father.
Jordan Davis was close to his father
Jonathan Ferguson was close to this father.

Also the idea of the “absent black father” is, at this point, purely a racist mythology that those on the left and right propagate in defiance of the data:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec/20/local/la-me-black-dads-20131221

I know, I know, facts don’t jive with white supremacy, but that’s never stopped you before RWM.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

RWM never used the words black fatherless males. He used the words fatherless males.

F-

PS, a single PEW survey doesn’t make that “racist mythology” go away and certainly doesn’t make your claim Fact. When you can produce multiple, reviewed surveys that show the exact same results, maybe we’ll stop laughing at you.

Del Dolemonte on August 11, 2014 at 1:33 PM

The funniest thing is Libfree is too much of a p*ssy to dirty his hands in the streets saving his “brothers”. Add to that his support of Hamas who thinks he is sub-human. What a hoot.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Whoa — now you’re the one proferring easily correctable nonsense.

vlad martel on August 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I made an analogy, by it’s very nature analogies are imperfect. I was trying to show that stereotypes are silly.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

So,George Patton was black?

celtic warrior on August 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Even conservative blacks vote Democratic and keep harming their community.

Hold on there, buddy. You won’t find a vote for Obama on MY record at all…so don’t blame ME for that Hot Mess…

95%+ blacks voted for the moron Obama.

You reap what you sow.

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 1:24 PM

And over 50% of Whites voted for him also, because as you know…he wouldn’t have been able to win the office WITHOUT white votes either.

So, what address do I send your Blame Check for that FUBAR?

Not to mention, Texas, considered a rather Conservative State, has cities like Austin welcoming in lawbreaking Illegals…so should the rest of the country reap that also if they leave and commit crimes elsewhere within our borders?

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Survey finds dads defy stereotypes about black fatherhood
By most measures, report says, black fathers are at least as involved with their kids as other men in similar living situations.

Love the qualifier.

Fact 70% of blacks are born out of wedlock.

Whites fail there too but it is not even close.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Blacks also have the lowest IQ. Google “race and IQ”. Blacks are also the only race with no DNA from the large-brained and tool-using Neanderthals.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Low IQ huh? I’m sure Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Alan West and Ben Carson will be relieved to know that’s why they never succeeded…

Oh, wait a tic…

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

gormmm, I know it’s difficult to do, but why not take individual people as they are? Consider the examples BlaxPac gives of Ben Carson who’s such an important role model to me, and Thomas Sowell, with an intellect of the highest order. It’s only the lazy or sloppy thinker who thinks someone’s skin color or race somehow controls their abilities.

If you want some statistics, my I suggest bigots (of any race), as a group, are some of the most dull, stupid people among us.

LashRambo on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Killing your pregnant wife, so you can cheat (Scott Peterson), killing your wife for insurance (Numerous), Serial killings (Numerous).

Pedophiles again predominantly white.

By your logic whites are more likely to exhibit psychopathic/narcissistic personalities

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Blacks are more likely to kill the wives they have. So that kind of is not on your side. Black men may not cheat on their wives, they just have several women they are not married to to sleep with.

As for serial killers. 40% are black. Surprise surprise surprise.

U.S. Serial Killers
Percentage by Race and Decade
Race
Decade White Black Hispanic Asian Native American
1900 66.7 33.3 0.0 0.0 0.0
1910 44.8 55.2 0.0 0.0 0.0
1920 70.0 30.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1930 58.6 41.4 0.0 0.0 0.0
1940 65.5 27.6 3.4 0.0 3.4
1950 78.7 21.3 0.0 0.0 0.0
1960 70.3 27.1 0.6 0.0 1.9
1970 62.4 32.9 3.4 0.4 0.9
1980 55.5 35.5 6.8 0.5 1.7
1990 43.1 48.0 7.1 1.8 0.0
2000 32.4 59.6 6.9 0.7 0.4
2010 32.8 59.7 7.5 0.0 0.0
TOTAL 52.4 40.7 5.3 0.7 0.9
Source: Radford University/FGCU Serial Killer Database
Updated 10/19/2013

Pedophiles, White Population 75%, pedophiles who are white, 80%. Slightly over represented, but I have also seen it listed as 75% white pedophiles. So might be perfectly represented.

Science does not fit your argument very well, does it?

Why is it when a white person kills someone it is national news? Because it is so rare.
Why is it when a black person kills several people at once it is local news? Because if they make it national news there would be no room for anything else. Oh, and it does not fit the propaganda needs of the Democrats.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

However painting the whole community with a broad brush only alienantes potential allies like me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

When do you suppose they’ll stop doing that to themselves?

Ronnie on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Love you guys … in a non-psychopathic sort of way. If I could part the dirty water you have to wade through …

M240H on August 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM

LMAO…not to worry…I think Barry promised to “lower the seas” so we’ll be able to stroll along the bottom ANY day now…

…ANY day now… /s

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

gormmm serious question which gene makes black people better at dancing

Ugh gormmm you are a disgusting person. Get out of here and go back to posting at Stormfront.

TarasBulbous on August 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

The funniest thing is Libfree is too much of a p*ssy to dirty his hands in the streets saving his “brothers”. Add to that his support of Hamas who thinks he is sub-human. What a hoot.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:33 PM

fascistordie is a great fan of the revolution – while safely ensconced in the ivory tower living off state redistribution of wealth. His job in the revolution is trying to explain away common sense and the obvious to blame “whitey” and “the rich” for any societal ill.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I posted facts.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

From where, stormfront?

It’s so over-the-top, it’s gotta be a Progressive sock…not that it makes it any better.

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM

That’s too easy. Unfortunately, the internet makes it easier for these troglodytes to find each other.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

As far as Jews go, that’s not the case, but the absolute number of White gentiles with IQ’s above 140 is much larger than for Jews due to the much larger population. No racial population on this planet, including the Jews, exceeds in the absolute number of Whites with IQ’s above 140.

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Hey, genius, the IQ tests are social based in reality…they have created IQ tests based on the African culture, and guess what, whites score lower…what a coincidence.

IQ is cultural…duhhhhh!!!!

Every 10 years IQ scores go up 3 points, showing that it’s not a standard test…so a 10 year old, gets smarter at 20, and then 30, than 40? So it’s a learned behavior after all?

You guys crack me up…keep posting…

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

I feel for you but you’re starting to NOT do yourself any favors. you might want to quit while you’re behind.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Pedophiles again predominantly white.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

That’s not fair. MJ bleached his skin.

Ronnie on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Who didn’t see this coming? Time for unlimited free shopping comes around so seldom.

RdLake on August 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

MJ bleached his skin.

Ronnie on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Uhh? He was black?

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Uhh? He was black?

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Apparently.

Ronnie on August 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

To be fair, your banishment was probably asked for because you are an ignorant bigot who makes us all look bad.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Survey finds dads defy stereotypes about black fatherhood
By most measures, report says, black fathers are at least as involved with their kids as other men in similar living situations.

Love the qualifier.

Fact 70% of blacks are born out of wedlock.

Whites fail there too but it is not even close.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Ha ha ha.

So did fascistordie not know that the survey “measured” or did he think someone else wouldn’t notice?

So, the whole survey “debunks” a point no one was making and says nothing about the point people are making – that fatherlessness is a HUGE problem regardless of race. This has also been covered by Theodore Dalrymple regarding the same phenomenon in the UK.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

gormmm on August 11, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Whether or not you are aware of it, your arguments sound exactly the same as American Eugenicists, whose work led to the Nazi racial policies and its aftermath.

As I demonstrated above, blacks are not the only people that riot. In fact, there were many riots in the UK prior to massive immigration.

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Is there a reason we are not banning this person? Or is this going to turn into a “white supremacist thread”?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Send a message to Ed or Allah.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Chaos is a good thing for the Left. Chris Hayes was tweeting about this last night…you do tonight will be replayed tomorrow over and over.

Crump is already hired, Holder and the FBI are ready monitoring the investigation..so the odds of the policeman winding up in prisoin are sky high at this point.

An alderman from St. Louis City…not Ferguson, was at the ready having a press avail at the home of this boy’s grandmother, before the riot…and was tweeting Vine shots continuously during the riot..show the prominence of a white bull-horn in getting people riled up.

Ferguson has a black mayor and is 2/3rd black (via wiki)….the income and poverty rates don’t look that bad.

oh, and btw, Chris Hayes may be flying in for the extended coverage this week…I don’t know, he’s on vacay

And, the Mayor of the City has said that this is why we need a Regional Government.

But here’s one solution, via Dana Loesch. Policemen wearing cameras. Sad, but it is clearly where to go…too much money at stake, they are walking targets for the leftists.

body cameras on the cops..that will reduce a lot of this.

r keller on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Now, back to the real problem…riots in the streets for something the police did…before it can be determined or investigated.

Who is at fault…the police, or the public who tolerates this?

(please don’t feed the racist trolls like Racquel Pinkbullet or gormmm)

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

“A riot is the language of the unheard.”-Dr. Martin Luther King jr.

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM

“Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.”-Dr. Martin Luther King jr.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Blacks are more likely to kill the wives they have. So that kind of is not on your side. Black men may not cheat on their wives, they just have several women they are not married to to sleep with.

As for serial killers. 40% are black. Surprise surprise surprise.

U.S. Serial Killers
Percentage by Race and Decade
Race
Decade White Black Hispanic Asian Native American
1900 66.7 33.3 0.0 0.0 0.0
1910 44.8 55.2 0.0 0.0 0.0
1920 70.0 30.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1930 58.6 41.4 0.0 0.0 0.0
1940 65.5 27.6 3.4 0.0 3.4
1950 78.7 21.3 0.0 0.0 0.0
1960 70.3 27.1 0.6 0.0 1.9
1970 62.4 32.9 3.4 0.4 0.9
1980 55.5 35.5 6.8 0.5 1.7
1990 43.1 48.0 7.1 1.8 0.0
2000 32.4 59.6 6.9 0.7 0.4
2010 32.8 59.7 7.5 0.0 0.0
TOTAL 52.4 40.7 5.3 0.7 0.9
Source: Radford University/FGCU Serial Killer Database
Updated 10/19/2013

Pedophiles, White Population 75%, pedophiles who are white, 80%. Slightly over represented, but I have also seen it listed as 75% white pedophiles. So might be perfectly represented.

Science does not fit your argument very well, does it?

Why is it when a white person kills someone it is national news? Because it is so rare.
Why is it when a black person kills several people at once it is local news? Because if they make it national news there would be no room for anything else. Oh, and it does not fit the propaganda needs of the Democrats.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

By your very own measure 80% of pedophiles are white. The white population (Non-hispanic white)in the country is 67%.

I was just as disgusted by the Trayvon Martin shtick as anyone. But again that was to promote a liberal agenda.

Je$$e Jack$son And Al $harpton make quite a bit of money of shakedowns.

Again we agree.

Serial killers are not 40% black. The last stat I saw was somewhere around 60%-70% white. And 20% hispanic. And less than 5% (ie 2 black)

Also if you watch Court Tv you will see nightly how many cases of white spouses killing eachother for insurance/custody etc.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

body cameras on the cops..that will reduce a lot of this.

r keller on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Agreed, body cameras, tape recording, dashboard cams, all of this is very inexpensive technology considering what is at stake now.

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

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CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

(please don’t feed the racist trolls like Racquel Pinkbullet or gormmm)

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Really I am a racist troll? I’ve only been posting here for how long? And yet I call out people who generalize the black community and I grouped together with a white supremacist like gormmm?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

RWM never used the words black fatherless males. He used the words fatherless males.

Del Dolemonte on August 11, 2014 at 1:33 PM

SHE used the words ‘fatherless males.’

F-

:-)

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

In humans, there is a 30-base repeat sequence repeated in one of several different numbers of times in the promoter region of the gene coding for MAO-A. There are 2R (two repeats), 3R, 3.5R, 4R, and 5R variants of the repeat sequence, with the 3R and 4R variants most common in Caucasians. The 3.5R and 4R variants have been found to be more highly active than 3R or 5R, in a study which did not examine the 2R variant. An association between the 2R allele of the VNTR region of the gene and an increase in the likelihood of committing serious crime or violence has been found.

A version of the monoamine oxidase-A gene has been popularly referred to as the warrior gene. Several different versions of the gene are found in different individuals, although a functional gene is present in most humans (with the exception of a few individuals with Brunner syndrome). In the variant, the allele associated with behavioural traits is shorter (30 bases) and may produce less MAO-A enzyme. This gene variation is in a regulatory promoter region about 1000 bases from the start of the region that encodes the MAO-A enzyme.

The frequency distribution of variants of the MAO-A gene differs between ethnic groups. 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carry the 3R allele. 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carry the 2R allele.

A connection between a version of the monoamine oxidase A gene (3R) and several types of antisocial behavior has been found. MAOA had no statistically significant main effect on antisocial behavior. Maltreated children with genes causing high levels of MAO-A were less likely to develop antisocial behavior. Low MAO-A activity in combination with abuse experienced during childhood results in an increased risk of aggressive behaviour as an adult. High testosterone, maternal tobacco smoking during pregnancy, poor material living standards, dropping out of school, and low IQ can also trigger violent behavior in men with the low-activity alleles (which are overwhelmingly the 3R allele).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior_gene#Warrior_gene

If I understand this, it seems that the warrior gene needs triggers for the “anti-social behavior” to manifest. Blacks and Asians are not much different in the occurrence of the “warrior gene.” But we don’t see the level of “anti-social behavior” in Asian communities as we do in black communities.

Is it racist to point out that those triggers are more likely to occur in certain minority neighborhoods?

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Is there a reason we are not banning this person? Or is this going to turn into a “white supremacist thread”?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Send a message to Ed or Allah.

gwelf on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Oh, come on. Aren’t people allowed to think and post what they’d like here? If they’re wrong, won’t they be shown to be wrong?

/”sunlight is the best disinfectant” ~ some Jew

LashRambo on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

We have banned Gormmm and deleted his earlier comments.

Ed Morrissey on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

A similar incident happened in Dallas not too long ago. A police presence with cooler headed neighborhood leaders diffused the situation (the race baiters weren’t happy). It didn’t hurt that there were many black business owners ready to shoot rioters.

Racquel ain’t a troll. She is deservedly passionate about this issue. It can cloud judgement.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Also the idea of the “absent black father” is, at this point, purely a racist mythology that those on the left and right propagate in defiance of the data:

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/25/fathers-disappear-from-households-across-america/?page=all

Though income is the primary predictor, the lack of live-in fathers also is overwhelmingly a black problem, regardless of poverty status, census data show. Among blacks, nearly 5 million children, or 54 percent, live with only their mother. Twelve percent of black families below the poverty line have two parents present, compared with 41 percent of impoverished Hispanic families and 32 percent of poor white families.

So accepting the data is defiance of the data, and ignoring the data and making spurious claims with no sourcing is being true to the data?

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by

90% confidence range for African-American kids not raised by both parents in this study? 66.6%-67.4% (it counts stepparents & cohabitating so it does count more than the previous one).
The National total by this metric is 35%… (click through for an Excel spreadsheet with their data, racial and state breakdown, and details).

I mean… I knew you were fact-averse… but if you’re going to make a claim about data; why not show actual data. Is it because the data shows what I’ve got here, the opposite of your claim?

No? Then get some sources out and show us the data that we’re defying. I’m showing you the data that you’re defying after all. I spent all of 30 seconds looking at the top 2 Google search returns.

Amazing that you can’t manage this to keep yourself from looking more foolish.

gekkobear on August 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM

libfree will never ever accept your source as it it the “Moonie” Washington Times. Only the Looney Left LA-LA Times is reputable!

Del Dolemonte on August 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

When they count whites they count hispanics. That % is 75% and like I said, they also list the number as 70% which would be 5% decrease.

As for serial killers, you are going to have to refute the study… Not my problem it does not fit your view of the world. I know other people who change facts to fit their unreality.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

(please don’t feed the racist trolls like Racquel Pinkbullet or gormmm)

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Really I am a racist troll? I’ve only been posting here for how long? And yet I call out people who generalize the black community and I grouped together with a white supremacist like gormmm?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Agreed, Raquel. While we obviously disagree on some points, I do not consider you a racist or a troll.

People like gorllum like to twist data for their own nefarious causes.

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

libfreeordie on August 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Let’s do the full quote:

“When you cut facilities, slash jobs, abuse power, discriminate, drive people into deeper poverty and shoot people dead whilst refusing to provide answers or justice, the people will rise up and express their anger and frustration if you refuse to hear their cries. A riot is the language of the unheard.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.

Obama has cut facilities, slashed jobs, abused power,…the liberals have driven the people into deeper poverty.

We have not shot people and not refused to provide answers, each of any case has been tried in public and in full view, with the victims or their relatives with full representation.

Don’t discredit MLK with falsely misrepresenting what he was saying…the liberals have let the minorities down, and have sold them back to slavery.

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Whether or not you are aware of it, your arguments sound exactly the same as American Eugenicists, whose work led to the Nazi racial policies and its aftermath.

As I demonstrated above, blacks are not the only people that riot. In fact, there were many riots in the UK prior to massive immigration.

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

+100000

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

We have banned Gormmm and deleted his earlier comments.

Ed Morrissey on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Well, fine, it’s your site, but I often find errors of thought more interesting than the truth.

LashRambo on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Belmar said the incident started when Brown physically assaulted the police officer, pushing him into the officer’s vehicle. He said there was a struggle inside the car, and at some point Brown reached for the officer’s weapon. One shot was fired inside the vehicle.

Brown suffered fatal gunshot wounds outside of the vehicle, approximately 35 feet from the car. Belmar said multiple shell casings were found at the scene, and that Brown was shot more than once, but an exact number of shots fired has not yet been determined. All the shell casings came from the officer’s weapon.

Belmar confirmed Brown was unarmed at the time of the shooting. He did not say what led to the struggle inside the officer’s car.

I am sure Brown was a good man.

CW on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Agreed, Raquel. While we obviously disagree on some points, I do not consider you a racist or a troll.

People like gorllum like to twist data for their own nefarious causes.

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

We may disagree here, but I think we agree on most everything else based on posting history here.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Hold on there, buddy. You won’t find a vote for Obama on MY record at all…so don’t blame ME for that Hot Mess…

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Good for you. Not on the plantation of liberal idotic group think.

I just wish there were more like you.

And I didn’t blame you for the mess Obama has us in.

txdoc on August 11, 2014 at 1:53 PM

We have banned Gormmm and deleted his earlier comments.

Ed Morrissey on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

+100000000 Thank you

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM

LashRambo on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I like bashing trolls as much as the next guy, well, maybe more. But that ignorant bigot was beyond the pale and liberal trolls copied his comments to paint us all with that brush at a later date.

Its best to remove that kind of smelly trash post haste.

cozmo on August 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Yes, when you post stats that are suspect, just to try to win an argument, it isn’t just “disagreement” it’s misrepresentation.

Just throwing out stats, without analysis and understanding, just choosing whatever fits your stance…makes you a troll.

And it just seems that each of your “facts” had to deal with racism, whites vs. blacks.

It’s not a debate of who is worse…it’s what can be done in the minority community to stop them from doing what they are doing.

Who cares who has more serial killers, that is not a subject that is important, considering how few are actually involved when counting the number of deaths and murders…it is done to divert attention from the real numbers.

In these riots, how many are started by what group, and how often?

right2bright on August 11, 2014 at 1:57 PM

When they count whites they count hispanics. That % is 75% and like I said, they also list the number as 70% which would be 5% decrease.

As for serial killers, you are going to have to refute the study… Not my problem it does not fit your view of the world. I know other people who change facts to fit their unreality.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Stats on serial killers vary from source. You went source shopping.

Also using your own logic let me use your own words:

As for pedophiles, you are going to have to refute the stats… Not my problem it does not fit your view of the world. I know other people who change facts to fit their unreality.

See how easy that was?

Also picking apart my analogy is silly because I admit it is an analogy. By virtue of being an analogy, it is by definition, not going to be the exact same as the object of discussion, so I don’t get what your point continues to be.

My original point still remains, and is one you agree with?

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 11, 2014 at 1:58 PM

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