Surprise: CIA begins quietly funneling weapons to Kurds to repel ISIS

posted at 1:21 pm on August 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

Just a “trickle” so far, per WaPo, because for the moment we’re still observing the polite fiction that there’s a functioning central government in Baghdad. If Maliki digs in and the new prime minister isn’t allowed to take power, I assume that fiction will finally be dropped.

The weapons are being supplied by the CIA, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the Obama administration has not publicly acknowledged the spy agency’s involvement.

“They need everything, especially heavy weapons,” said the former U.S. official, who is working closely with Kurdish leaders. While arms have started flowing to Kurdish forces near the city of Irbil, the official said Kurds in the vicinity of the key city of Sulaymaniyah have yet to receive any U.S. support…

A U.S. military official said the Pentagon and State Department were discussing other possible ways to deliver weapons to the Kurds via open channels, but that they would need special legal authorization. Normally U.S. arms sales are restricted to sovereign or central governments.

Legal authorization shouldn’t be hard. There are no heavyweight factions in either party who are anti-Kurd or (giggle) pro-Maliki at this point, are there?

Speaking of quietly arming jihadi nemeses, here’s a tasty leftover from the weekend. I know Noah touched on it earlier but I want to highlight this bit:

JG: Do you think we’d be where we are with ISIS right now if the U.S. had done more three years ago to build up a moderate Syrian opposition?

[Hillary Clinton]: Well, I don’t know the answer to that. I know that the failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad—there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle—the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.

They were often armed in an indiscriminate way by other forces and we had no skin in the game that really enabled us to prevent this indiscriminate arming.

I don’t know how seriously to take that. Maybe it’s simple political math. She needs to distance herself from Obama’s foreign policy + she wants to polish her brand as a hawk = in hindsight, we should have done more to arm the “moderates” in the Free Syrian Army, who might have quashed the nascent threat from ISIS on the battlefield in Syria before it could spread to Iraq. Assuming she means it, though, I don’t know why she thinks an FSA backed by American arms would have been appreciably better at filling the vacuum in Syria than ISIS was. It’s easy to say in hindsight “we should have hit ISIS harder before they had time to establish themselves”; in reality, had Obama made that case at the time, he would have been scoffed at by war-weary lefties and righties. And with good reason: There’s simply never been compelling evidence, the way there is with an America-friendly battle-tested force like the peshmerga in Kurdistan, that an FSA armed by Uncle Sam would have been equal to the task of stopping the jihadis, let alone Assad. Michael Dougherty:

The U.S. was arming Syrian rebels. This was reported throughout 2012 and 2013. Sometimes the reports even made the effort to describe those America was arming as “moderate,” to try to distinguish them from the black-flag flying beheaders. But the distinctions can be blurry. Some of the “moderate” Free Syrian Army members have been defecting to Islamist groups like al Nusra, and presumably ISIS — at least those members who haven’t given up and retired to Turkey.

Relatively early in the Syrian conflict, back when the U.S. was still waiting for the discouraging messages from the British parliament and a discouraging op-ed from Vladimir Putin, ISIS and other Islamist groups were growing at the expense of our beloved “moderate” gun-wielders. This dynamic wasn’t hard to predict, as the opposition to Assad was concentrated in Sunni Muslim groups who detested the Alawite dictator. Money and materiel flows up from Gulf states to radical Sunnis.

Committing to the “moderate” Free Syrian Army exclusively would have meant creating a civil war within a civil war, getting into a proxy war with Saudi Arabia, and risking humiliation — all while getting a lot of innocents killed. If the stated objective was that once the U.S. went in big with anti-Assad forces, then Assad’s fall had to be assured, the result would have been similar to Egypt, where once the U.S. let Mubarak’s regime fall, the Muslim Brotherhood was the only organized option on the ground.

We armed the Iraqi army to the teeth, notes Dougherty, and those arms are now being used against the Kurds by ISIS forces who confiscated them from Iraqi troops. What reason is there to think the same wouldn’t have happened in Syria? If anything, arming the FSA might have accelerated ISIS’s takeover in Iraq by opening a new stream of weapons to the group. But I think we’re overthinking this. As I say, Hillary’s hawkishness here is foremost a political gesture, aimed partly at voters who think a woman wouldn’t be “tough” enough as commander-in-chief, partly at voters who worry that electing Obama’s top diplomat as president means four years of Hopenchange foreign policy, and partly at ardent Republican hawks who will be looking to bail on the party if Rand Paul ends up being the GOP’s choice. But I also think she would be more hawkish as president than O is, which means more early-stage interventions in places like Syria (and Ukraine?). Depending upon who we nominate, we could end up with a Republican who feels similarly, who’s considerably more dovish (Paul), or who’s probably even a bit more hawkish (Rubio). Foreign policy typically doesn’t influence presidential votes heavily, but this time it should.


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This warmongering is concerning, libfree and verba must be coordinating the anti-war marches.

Bishop on August 11, 2014 at 1:23 PM

I thought guns kill people, or something.

faraway on August 11, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Obama White House response to Hillary criticisms: Nuh uh! She did it, too!

thatsafactjack on August 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

The liberals are making war again.

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Good, but announcing it to the news media isn’t exactly “quiet”.

forest on August 11, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Even a Rand Paul neo-isolationist policy, if at least done well, but would be better than this.

WitchDoctor on August 11, 2014 at 1:32 PM

This should be done through the Iraqi government. The Iraqis have been providing them weapons and want to continue doing so. The CIA being involved makes me very nervous.

The US can’t say they want a unified Iraq and then arms the Kurds without the central government approval. The US can’t be congratulating the new prime minister of Iraq and then go over his head and undermine his already shaky beginning by arming the Kurds directly. Our bipolar foreign policy strikes again.

The US truly needs to stop compounding problems.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Liberals creating more terrorists.

This entire situation is terrible and the future implications potentially dreadful, but I have to admit I’m loving the reaction from the Smartest People In Any Room.

The lefty sites I haunt are packed with angst, depression, finger pointing, distraction, excuses, and pretzelizing of logic to the point that it’s unrecognizable. They’re all acting as if Dog Eater has been either forced by the GOP House to do this or that it makes perfect sense to act like Dubya but do so intelligently this time around.

Bishop on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

What? Are we through helping Nouri Ngo Dinh al-Maliki?

KingGold on August 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I saw video of Dear Leader yesterday…he didn’t have his phone or pen with him?

d1carter on August 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I pray she continues this line of garbage.

Nothing I would like more than to see her debate Rand, Rubio, Perry, or even Christie.

Think of the rabbit hole of logic – “I may have been Secretary of State, but I didn’t agree with anything I enacted, and I’m still a strong, independent woman who won’t carry another man’s water”.

Holy gawd, she’ll reinforce the “Clinton’s Lie” meme and set it in stone.

It’s the geopolitical equivalent of defining “is”.

By all means, keep this up. It’s indefensible.

budfox on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

H.R.Clinton ” It was Barry… he said we should do it that way… I never thought it was a good idea… but everybody else went along with Barry… but it wasn’t me… I wasn’t even there most of the time… it was all Barry. ” *blink* *blink* (Cue pout lip and chin quiver) “Can I have a cookie now?”

Barack Obama, President of the United States of America ” Nuh Uh! Hillary said it was a good idea and she even said we’d never get caught.And…and … uh… it was really all her idea anyway.” *blink* *blink* “Can I go play now? Valerie said I could go play now.” (Cue slamming of the screen door as Barry races out)

thatsafactjack on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

They love us because we have Obama now.

Little Boomer on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Wait a darn minute, shouldn’t these piece loving Muslims be getting their Miranda Rights read to them, before the CIA facilitates their deaths?

DDay on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

We armed the Iraqi army to the teeth, notes Dougherty, and those arms are now being used against the Kurds by ISIS forces who confiscated them from Iraqi troops. What reason is there to think the same wouldn’t have happened in Syria?

But yet, Barry recently requested $500 million to arm the so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels. I’m not positive, but I think it was approved with Juan McCain and Flimsy Graham leading the way.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama-proposes-500-million-to-aid-syrian-rebels-1403813486

TarheelBen on August 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Hillary was part of the obama cabal.

She is the one who first said “we can live/work with our ‘friend’ Assad”, and then “get rid of him”, shortly after. Same for Kerry. He and Theresa dined extravagantly with the Assads, shortly before ‘blasting’ him.

Hillary can NOT escape obama. She wants the cake and eat it too.

Plus, she’s wrong.

obama failed to make glass out of ISIS when they first left Syria, in convoys. That is on his soul, for good.

obama also fails to secure the Southern border and ISIS are slipping in, unabashed.

Hillary will not even run, but the scumhag should shut up and go walk on the beach some more. She went to bed with obama and now she has his fleas.

Schadenfreude on August 11, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Legal authorization shouldn’t be hard. There are no heavyweight factions in either party who are anti-Kurd or (giggle) pro-Maliki at this point, are there?

The House and Senate are both in recess. They’d have to be called back into session.

Steven Den Beste on August 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

By all means, keep this up. It’s indefensible.

budfox on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I take it you were visiting another planet during the 2008 and 2012 elections?

Bishop on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I still recall the Iraqi’s laying down their arms and shredding their uniforms out of fear. Malaki’s Shi’ite. ISIS is Shi’ite. I assume most of the military was Shi’ite. I’m wondering what in the heck our interest is if the Iraqi’s themselves are afraid to take destiny into their own hands. Last thing I want to do is babysit muslim thumbsuckers.

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Arm the Kurd’s to the teeth all I have to say is this will get very bloody once they get on equal ground with ISIS.

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

This should be done through the Iraqi government. The Iraqis have been providing them weapons and want to continue doing so. The CIA being involved makes me very nervous.

The US can’t say they want a unified Iraq and then arms the Kurds without the central government approval.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

The crooks who run the central government siphon all the weapons off to Shia militias. The Peshmerga is the only force in Iraq that has any chance at stopping ISIS

The US can’t be congratulating the new prime minister of Iraq and then go over his head and undermine his already shaky beginning by arming the Kurds directly. Our bipolar foreign policy strikes again.

Uh, the old prime minister is refusing to step down and his thugs are in control of Baghdad. There are tanks surrounding the Green Zone.

Walter Sobchak on August 11, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Lets hope it is not too late and that ISIS does not instead capture said weapons before than can be effective. Knowing Obama, that is the likely PLAN of action. Turn them over to ISIS through the Kurds.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Hillary, like Obama, is a f%cking moron.

The only way to have prevented the ISIS takeover was to leave US troops in Iraq. It s&cks, but its the truth.

I’m surprised, due to the leftist thought process, that our troops haven’t been pulled out of Korea.

I’m sure nothing would happen there.

Turtle317 on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Lets hope it is not too late and that ISIS does not instead capture said weapons before than can be effective. Knowing Obama, that is the likely PLAN of action. Turn them over to ISIS through the Kurds.
astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM
Issue with that is the Kurds hate ISIS.

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

for the moment we’re still observing the polite fiction that there’s a functioning central government in Baghdad

Hey! Baghdad has a central governemnt just as functional as Damascus or Tripoli!!!!

Just more smart power by leading from behind.

Happy Nomad on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Iraqi Prime Minister Floods Baghdad With Loyalist Special Forces Force As War Torn Country Faces Fresh Constitutional Crisis

Iraq’s prime minister kicked out of office as president orders new government – placing Baghdad on political knife-edge as country battles ISIS

Deputy parliament speaker chosen to succeed incumbent Nouri al-Maliki

He accused new President Fouad Massoum of violating constitution

Political infighting threatens to derail attempts to quash Islamic militants

Iraq’s prime minister kicked out of office as president orders new government – placing Baghdad on political knife-edge as country battles ISIS

Deputy parliament speaker chosen to succeed incumbent Nouri al-Maliki
He accused new President Fouad Massoum of violating constitution
Political infighting threatens to derail attempts to quash Islamic militants

Mr Ibadi, who pledged to form a government to ‘protect the Iraqi people’, was nominated for the post by the Iraqi National Alliance, a coalition of Shi’ite parties that Mr Maliki’s State of Law is part of, but has turned against him.

Mr Maliki’s Shi’ite-dominated bloc won the most parliament seats in April elections and the prime minister sees himself as rightfully keeping the post.

In a midnight speech, Mr Maliki said he was filing a suit against the president for neglecting to name him prime minister by Sunday’s deadline and all but demanded he be renominated.

Critics say Mr Maliki, a Shiite, contributed to the crisis by monopolising power and pursuing a sectarian agenda that alienated the country’s Sunni and Kurdish minorities.

Mr Ibadi’s nomination came hours after Mr Maliki deployed his elite security forces in the streets of Baghdad, partially closed two main streets – popular spots for pro and anti-government rallies – as hundreds of his supporters took to the streets.

thatsafactjack on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Is a Nerf Cannon actually a weapon?

trigon on August 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Lets hope it is not too late and that ISIS does not instead capture said weapons before than can be effective. Knowing Obama, that is the likely PLAN of action. Turn them over to ISIS through the Kurds.

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

ISIS is the junior varsity. Nothing to worry about.

Happy Nomad on August 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Our bipolar foreign policy strikes again.

The US truly needs to stop compounding problems.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM


She can’t escape him either, having his fleas on her.

Schadenfreude on August 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

This should be done through the Iraqi government. The Iraqis have been providing them weapons and want to continue doing so. The CIA being involved makes me very nervous.

The US Obama can’t say they he wants a unified Iraq and then arm the Kurds without the central government approval. The US Obama can’t be congratulating the new prime minister of Iraq and then go over his head and undermine his already shaky beginning by arming the Kurds directly. Our Obama’s bipolar foreign policy strikes again.

The US truly needs to stop compounding problems.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Fixed it for you.

TarasBulbous on August 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

This is all very boring.

Now onto something completely different.

BobMbx on August 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Proxy war!!

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Erbil – Irbil. Yezidis – Yazidis. ISIS – ISIL – IS. And don’t get me started on Gaddafi.

With the White House and State Department in a perpetual state of disarray, can’t we get just a little clarity?

BKeyser on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

They love us because we have Obama now.

Little Boomer on August 11, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Of course they do. The destruction of America from within by a lazy stupid bastard shucking and jiving his way through every issue with partisan tactics and corruption.

Happy Nomad on August 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

ISIS is Shi’ite. I assume most of the military was Shi’ite. I’m wondering what in the heck our interest is if the Iraqi’s themselves are afraid to take destiny into their own hands. Last thing I want to do is babysit muslim thumbsuckers.

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

ISIS is Sunni.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The chickens are ALL coming home to roost.

Schadenfreude on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

So quietly the Washington Post is telling us about it?

Could be the CIA making a shot across the bow for Maliki.

Socratease on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Karma is a bitch Obama…

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:53 PM

This is Karma for you Obama fighting the very war he said we got out of.

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I could be wrong, but I thought the purpose of the CIA base in Benghazi was to funnel arms to the Syrian rebels.

Whatever, we must not let Kurdish Iraq fall to ISIS.

juliesa on August 11, 2014 at 1:59 PM

“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.”

-Obama on ISIS

Well, the same thing could be said for dressing a lazy stupid racist agitator up like a President. Doesn’t mean he is one.

IMO, the comment above is going to be the rat-eared bastard’s “mission accomplished” moment as ISIS continues to consolidate its territory and there are terrorist attacks against the US and Europe.

Happy Nomad on August 11, 2014 at 2:00 PM

So we’ll have armed both sides.

Akzed on August 11, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Pentagon and State Department were discussing other possible ways to deliver weapons to the Kurds

Don’t forget to connect the parachutes.

pain train on August 11, 2014 at 2:02 PM

ISIS is Shi’ite. I assume most of the military was Shi’ite. I’m wondering what in the heck our interest is if the Iraqi’s themselves are afraid to take destiny into their own hands. Last thing I want to do is babysit muslim thumbsuckers.

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM

ISIS is Sunni.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

As were obama’s two ‘daddies’, the Kenyan and Indonesian one.

Schadenfreude on August 11, 2014 at 2:12 PM

This should be done through the Iraqi government. The Iraqis have been providing them weapons and want to continue doing so. The CIA being involved makes me very nervous.

The US can’t say they want a unified Iraq and then arms the Kurds without the central government approval. The US can’t be congratulating the new prime minister of Iraq and then go over his head and undermine his already shaky beginning by arming the Kurds directly. Our bipolar foreign policy strikes again.

The US truly needs to stop compounding problems.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

OK, cr, which Prime Minister are we supposed to deal with since there are, apparently, now 2 – amidst a coup?

Resist We Much on August 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM

ISIS is Sunni.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

ah, that clears up so much then. I was ever so worried we were witnessing Shi’ite on Shi’ite atrocities. /

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM

quietly funneling weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdxeBTm6gk

davidk on August 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Lets hope it is not too late and that ISIS does not instead capture said weapons before than can be effective. Knowing Obama, that is the likely PLAN of action. Turn them over to ISIS through the Kurds.
astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Issue with that is the Kurds hate ISIS.

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM

I guess I was not clear. With the statement of too late, I meant that I hope ISIS is not able to kill the Kurds and take them from their still cooling dead hands.

Send in a hundred thousands rifles!
The last three Kurds take possession of the weapons right before they are killed.

Something along those exaggerated lines…

astonerii on August 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

ah, that clears up so much then. I was ever so worried we were witnessing Shi’ite on Shi’ite atrocities. /

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM

No, it appears the ISIS thugs aren’t shy about exterminating even other Sunnis either, if they don’t conform to the crazies’ particular sub-brand of crazy.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

ah, that clears up so much then. I was ever so worried we were witnessing Shi’ite on Shi’ite atrocities. /
DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM
No, it appears the ISIS thugs aren’t shy about exterminating even other Sunnis either, if they don’t conform to the crazies’ particular sub-brand of crazy.
butch on August 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM
ISIS is so intolerant they kill they kill other crazies less crazy then they are?? Sunnies killing dummies who knew

sorrowen on August 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Why exactly would we be doing this “quietly”? Stop me if I am missing something obvious here, but is ISIS not abhorrent by pretty much every standard of modern civilization? And to every nation or government on the planet? They have no actual backers. Why not simply say “we have begun airlifting the Kurds a full battalion of M1A1′s and supporting vehicles plus a squadron of Apaches”? It’s not like China or Russia want ISIS gaining any foothold in the world, for fear of what it will stir up in their central eastern provinces.

Heck if you ask nice Putin probably has a few slightly used anti aircraft batteries that he wants to get off his hands quickly for a cheap price.

patches on August 11, 2014 at 2:40 PM

About the same way Carter helped the mujahadin in A-stan after the Russkies moved in.

formwiz on August 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Whatever buries ISIS deepest, fastest, and deadest is bestest.

To paraphrase Andrew Jackson.

profitsbeard on August 11, 2014 at 2:53 PM

She needs to distance herself from Obama’s foreign policy + she wants to polish her brand as a hawk = in hindsight, we should have done more to arm the “moderates” in the Free Syrian Army, who might have quashed the nascent threat from ISIS on the battlefield in Syria before it could spread to Iraq.

This mentally disturbed woman has fallen down drunk and hit her head too many times. The “Moderate Syrian Rebels” were/are ISIS and ISIS like fellow Sunni sub-animal Christian killing scum! We should not have armed them more, we should have armed them less, as in not at all. We should have been hoping Assad would kill them all.

VorDaj on August 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Hopefully, we aren’t just sending them crates of rifles and that’s it…if we’re gonna do this right, we need to give them the Full Boat..

Rifles, ammo, AT & grenade launchers. Make sure they’re native to what’s already there…if that’s just some AK’s and PK sqaud weapons, fine!

Tactical radios & cell phones, LBE’s, med kits and food.

Light vehicles (Jeeps & 4×4′s), boots and civilian hand model GPS’s.

Kurds have always had a excellent history as light Infantry…if you want to go all-out, request 500 of them to be detached for training as a Air mobile Calvary battalion, and buy a few troop chopper & pilots from the Iraqi Army to be tasked to them.

Even if you just give them the above mentioned items, we could at least give them some front line support via Navy/Air Force bombing.

If we did this 6 MONTHS ago, before they were on the move, ISIS would never have SEEN Mosul, let alone come close to unraveling the last 10 years of bloodshed we spent on the ground there, damnit.

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

ISIS is Sunni.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Not only is ISIS Sunni, it doesn’t get anymore Sunni.

VorDaj on August 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Outside of the Ukrainian separatists, is there anyone we aren’t currently arming?

mkbruin on August 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Outside of the Ukrainian separatists, is there anyone we aren’t currently arming?

mkbruin on August 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Our Border Patrol.

VorDaj on August 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM

CIA is supposed to gather intelligence, not disseminate it to the rest of the world. Maybe it should be divided in two, with a return to the old Office of Strategic Services and an Office of Secure Intelligence.

flataffect on August 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Mirror, mirror on the bloody wall, who is the most like Mohammad of them all?

Why your are ISIS, you are!

VorDaj on August 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM

No, it appears the ISIS thugs aren’t shy about exterminating even other Sunnis either, if they don’t conform to the crazies’ particular sub-brand of crazy.

butch on August 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

I guess that’s what threw me. There were a few videos pop up over the weekend showing ISIS marching sunnis to their deaths.

I think I’m back to the concept of arming whoever is losing over there at any given time just to keep the mayhem going. Let the last two guys standing go at it in a cage match.

DanMan on August 11, 2014 at 3:28 PM

So if you’re keeping score, we basically fund and funnel weapons to every side in just about every conflict.

SirGawain on August 11, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Outside of the Ukrainian separatists, is there anyone we aren’t currently arming?

mkbruin on August 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Our Border Patrol.

VorDaj on August 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM

I never got my AR-15 from the Fast & Furious giveaway of 2010-12

:o(

Could have saved that extra money so i could buy really cool accessories too!

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 3:37 PM

You know, in looking at the maps, creating a Kurdistan may actually solve a few issues. They’re friendly with us. They know how to fight. They’d be a buffer against the radical idiots in the region. They’d be a real thorn in Turkey’s and Iran’s sides. And they’d be a possible conduit for a legitimately moderate anti-Assad movement.

Win?

It’d take at least a decade of real focus, but I think the payoff would be much larger than what we’ve seen with Iraq. And a hell of a lot cheaper, too.

Not that “cheaper” is in our budget, but what the hell. It’s all phony money anyway, right?

nukemhill on August 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The US President Obama truly needs to stop compounding problems.

coolrepublica on August 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

FIFY. Spread the blame instead of identifying the real culprit, right? That’s how the cool kids roll… never ever accept responsibility for issues you cause.

Except that these are grownup issues, and liberals are out of their league.

dominigan on August 11, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Surprise: CIA begins quietly funneling weapons to Kurds to repel ISIS

The CIA just doesn’t do stuff like this. They don’t assassinate folks, either.

/s

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I never got my AR-15 from the Fast & Furious giveaway of 2010-12

:o(

Could have saved that extra money so i could buy really cool accessories too!

BlaxPac on August 11, 2014 at 3:37 PM

You should have tacked an “ez” onto the end of your surname.

slickwillie2001 on August 11, 2014 at 5:03 PM

If the GOP was smart they would stop complaining about Obama leaving Iraq and instead focus the attacks on Obama’s bizarre CIA gun running operation to the “moderate” FSA by using Qatar of people as a middleman. Most of the material we sent ended up in ISIS and even Taliban hands. Not to mention you could slam Clinton as well because she wanted to arm them as well.

Of course the GOP won’t do that because that would make McCain, King, and other “super” hawks look like idiots for wanting the FSA armed.

You don’t have to be a Rand Paul fan or anything, but be a “smart” hawk. Arm people you know and understand….

William Eaton on August 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM

This was brought up before and makes sense: the Kurds had their own country before, so divide the present country into 3 “states” – Kurds, Sunnis and Shi’ites in a federation and each with their own governance but politically operating together to bring the area back to what it once was and could be again. I am behind the Kurds (their name tells you it was a country “stan” before) and separation of the two idiotic sides of mohammedism (islam) as separate entities responsible for their governance, politics, cult, etc. makes common sense. There is no feasible other way to get these murderers, pedophiles, rapists, etc. to function in society. Otherwise, we just wipe out the sunnis and shi’ites and be really happy with them gone forever!

Roselle on August 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM