Coup underway in Iraq Confirmed. Video added

posted at 7:04 pm on August 10, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

This was popped up in the headlines, and details are still sketchy, but something potentially big is afoot in Iraq. (And for once, we’re not talking about their being under attack by ISIS.) We were first tipped off on Twitter as well as a quick draw compilation of tweets from inside Iraq provided at Pundit Press. Here are a few, along with Pundit Press’s summary, keeping in mind that this isn’t confirmed yet:

Iraq’s parliament just chose a new President who refused to rename Prime Minister Nouri Kamal al-Maliki to a third term. Maliki declared the move unconstitutional and his own State of Law Party pulled support from him. Now his forces are seizing government buildings in Iraq, have closed the airport, and are surrounding the Green Zone.

His speech refusing to step down occurred at midnight and was followed by the military action.

Assuming this is true – and a lot of reporters are picking up on it already – it sounds like somebody wanted al-Maliki out, but he’s not inclined to go. Actually, the WSJ predicted there was trouble afoot in the naming of the new PM earlier this week.

Baghdad’s Political Rifts Lurk Ahead of Deadline to Select Prime Minister

AGHDAD—As Sunni Islamist militants stabbed further into northern Iraq this week, sparking U.S. airstrikes against them, lawmakers in Baghdad appeared as divided as ever in choosing a new prime minister to form a government by Sunday’s deadline.

Iraqi politicians have been meeting in Baghdad this weekend before a constitutional deadline to form a new prime minister and government by midnight on Sunday. And no broadly acceptable alternative to Mr. Maliki appears to have emerged, further complicating the political situation.

If that impasse persists past the weekend, it could force a reassessment of the U.S. military intervention that many Iraqis see as essential to arresting the Islamist militants’ startling advances this year.

Allahpundit was already making some predictions within minutes of the news breaking.

It’s difficult to imagine a worse time for this (not that there’s a good time, mind you) when the country is under attack from an Islamic terrorist army on several fronts. Having their internal government structure break down just seems to invite more external problems. And if al-Maliki really arrests the new president (a Kurd) as threatened, that may indeed be the excuse the Kurds need to head for the exits.

Stay tuned. I’m sure there will be more coming from one or the other of us as this develops.

UPDATE 1: (Jazz) CNN is finally on the story and has film of tanks in the streets outside the Green Zone.

UPDATE 2: (Jazz) Some of the media is starting to pick up on this now. Looks legitimate.

TROOPS loyal to controversial Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki have sealed off Baghdad’s “Green Zone” in an apparent coup.

“There is a huge security presence, police and army, especially around the Green Zone,” the highly-protected district that houses Iraq’s key institutions, a high-ranking police officer has confirmed to AFP.

He said the deployment started at around 10:30 pm Iraq time, just 90 minutes before Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced on state television he would file a complaint against the president for violating the constitution.

“There is security everywhere in Baghdad, these are very unusual measures that look like those we impose for a state of emergency,” the police official said.

UPDATE 3: (Jazz) Some video from CNN with a bit more analysis and early scenes from the Green Zone.


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Muslims being Muslims.
Let him stage the coup. He may end up being the dictator who restores order eventually.

That part of the world is only stable when a dictator is in charge.

weedisgood on August 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM

weedisgood on August 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Cripes, if you ever wondered how Lebanon got its start, you can follow it live in living, bloody color.

I wonder if anyone in the MSM will worry about the Iraqi National Museum this time around?

BlaxPac on August 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM

A coup would be great if successful.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:24 PM

This situation has been screwed up from start to finish by both the Bush and Obama administrations. From the initial flawed decision to invade, to the stupid policy of disbanding the Iraqi military, the commitment to nation-building in a nation that collectively hates us, arming various private militias and factions, etc. Of course, calling the entire war a mistake gets one labeled an “isolationist.”

AngusMc on August 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM

You DO zip Obama up when you’re done, right?

307wolverine on August 10, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Wait, I am confused, Maliki is staging the coup? But I thought he was in charge?

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I thought John Fing Kerry was there to make sure everything went smoothly.

txag92 on August 10, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Please, someone convince me that this isn’t like Vietnam, where we engineered a coup and ended up killing 58,000 Americans trying to hold it together. I remember it was a Democrat that did that too, the difference was it was Kennedy and not Obama.

bflat879 on August 10, 2014 at 8:29 PM

A coup would be great if successful.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Cindy, Maliki is Shia and backed by Iran. A Maliki coup is essentially an Iranian coup. This is not good.

That being said, I predict Maliki will meet an ugly end within a month.

Joseph K on August 10, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Joseph K on August 10, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Yeah, when I made the comment I has it assbackwards, I thought the coup was against Maliki.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I has it? WTFiretruck? I had it assbackwards. Sorry.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Wait, I am confused, Maliki is staging the coup? But I thought he was in charge?

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Less a “coup” in the traditional sense, as just trying to consolidate power…

Problem is, trying to do so when your capitol city is under assault by outside forces, and you have extremely limited external support.

Maliki may be under the delusion that if he creates some “Controlled Chaos” the US or UN will come in to save his falafel*.

At best, the only thing he’s doing is giving an excuse for the Iranians to come into the country IN FORCE and not have the West say Boo about it.

The Worse case? Same as the Best case, but ISIS comes into Baghdad first, slaughters as many people as they can AND hold off the Iranians until they can consolidate power.

Then, we’ll get a preview of Rwanda II.

BlaxPac on August 10, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Iraq crisis
1m
State Department: US is closely monitoring situation in Iraq, is in touch with Iraqi leaders – @Reuters
End of alert

canopfor on August 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM

canopfor on August 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Wait, I am confused, Maliki is staging the coup? But I thought he was in charge?

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM

From the first quote in Jazz’s post above:

Iraq’s parliament just chose a new President who refused to rename Prime Minister Nouri Kamal al-Maliki to a third term. Maliki declared the move unconstitutional and his own State of Law Party pulled support from him. Now his forces are seizing government buildings in Iraq, have closed the airport, and are surrounding the Green Zone.

ShainS on August 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Yeah, when I made the comment I has it assbackwards, I thought the coup was against Maliki.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Cindy Munford: Hey,…I’ve done it a few times,…luckily,
nobody noticed———————-:0

canopfor on August 10, 2014 at 8:38 PM

A coup in Iraq would make things easy for the U.S. Abandon Maliki and deal with the Kurds exclusively from now on
===============================================

I’m not sure I follow. A coup would make things easier than Maliki staying there, but I thought the coup is against a newly elected Kurd. Wouldn’t a newly elected Kurd be better than any kind of coup? A Kurd in Baghdad could conceivably could conceivably be a a stabilizing force – Sunnis don’t have to goose between the hated Shia and ISIS. Shiites don’t have to acquiesce to their sworn enemies (yes, Kurds are Sunnis, but since they’ve been out of power and historically oppressed by Saddam and the rest of the Sunnis, they have a some basis for solidarity with Shiites). And it obviously means Kurds themselves can be armed without making them independent.

It seems like a coup, while still better than the status quo, is actually quite a bit worse than what happened just before.

Or is the rejection of Maliki itself being characterized as a coup?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM

ShainS on August 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Thanks, I’m trying to cook and read at the same time. I better pay attention to the food because my reading is failing big time. Maliki must go.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Luckily Dog Eater left Iraq as a success story, imagine if he had left it a mess.

Bishop on August 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Iraq’s parliament just chose a new President who refused to rename Prime Minister Nouri Kamal al-Maliki to a third term.

Maliki said the guy didn’t name anyone.

So, again, why are we following the ‘coup’ meme?

faraway on August 10, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Send John Kerry over there, he’ll straighten ‘em all out…..The Democrats are pathetic!

Realdemocrat1 on August 10, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Yeah, when I made the comment I has it assbackwards, I thought the coup was against Maliki.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Cindy Munford: Hey,..you might be right after all:)

Maliki accuses Iraq president of ‘coup’

U.S. official tweets support for President Massoum
Sunday, August 10, 2014
***********************

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/10/maliki-accuses-iraq-president-coup/

canopfor on August 10, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Shiite, Kurds, Sunnis…I forget..which ones are the ‘moderate’ & ‘peaceful’ Muslims??

Now that they have butchered all of their Christians, we ought to simply nuke the whole damned cesspool and obliterate every last one of the vermin maggots.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM

That part of the world is only stable when a dictator is in charge.

weedisgood on August 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM

weedisgood on August 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Why yes, you’re a broken record.

AngusMc on August 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM

You DO zip Obama up when you’re done, right?

307wolverine on August 10, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Of course, but they do it as both of them adoringly look at themselves in the mirror.

CW on August 10, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I can see Putin thinking this would be a good time to invade Eastern Ukraine.

Wethal on August 10, 2014 at 8:47 PM

There is no ‘coup’. Jazz has been hoodwinked.

faraway on August 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Shiite, Kurds, Sunnis…I forget..which ones are the ‘moderate’ & ‘peaceful’ Muslims??
Now that they have butchered all of their Christians, we ought to simply nuke the whole damned cesspool and obliterate every last one of the vermin maggots.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM

You want to nuke the Kurds? Really?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM

There is ZERO coverage of this on the TeeVee.

wyntre on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I’m not sure I follow. A coup would make things easier than Maliki staying there, but I thought the coup is against a newly elected Kurd. Wouldn’t a newly elected Kurd be better than any kind of coup? A Kurd in Baghdad could conceivably could conceivably be a a stabilizing force – Sunnis don’t have to goose between the hated Shia and ISIS. Shiites don’t have to acquiesce to their sworn enemies (yes, Kurds are Sunnis, but since they’ve been out of power and historically oppressed by Saddam and the rest of the Sunnis, they have a some basis for solidarity with Shiites). And it obviously means Kurds themselves can be armed without making them independent.

It seems like a coup, while still better than the status quo, is actually quite a bit worse than what happened just before.

Or is the rejection of Maliki itself being characterized as a coup?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Maliki is staging the coup. His own party refuses to bask him any longer for PM. Even if his party backed him, he wouldn’t have much of a chance. He is even more divisive than Obama. He has made many enemies and will probably be tried for many crimes once he is out of office, so he is trying to remain in power to prevent his own prison time. If he stages a coup, it would make it easier for the US to ignore him and deal with the Kurds.

Corsair on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

You want to nuke the Kurds? Really?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know, but if they are, yep. Nuke ‘em. Islam is an evil cult, and I am totally for eradication of same.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

You want to nuke the Kurds? Really?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Just checked, and yep, they are Muslims. Nuke ‘em.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Obama is reaping the weak seeds he sowed.

And the delusions he fueled.

A shame it took this long to blow up in his smug little puss.

October 2012 would have been more useful.

profitsbeard on August 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know, but if they are, yep. Nuke ‘em. Islam is an evil cult, and I am totally for eradication of same.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Son, didn’t Mama tell you there’s no future in freebasing Gardasil?

Because there isn’t…

JohnGalt23 on August 10, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Maliki is staging the coup. His own party refuses to bask him any longer for PM. Even if his party backed him, he wouldn’t have much of a chance. He is even more divisive than Obama. He has made many enemies and will probably be tried for many crimes once he is out of office, so he is trying to remain in power to prevent his own prison time. If he stages a coup, it would make it easier for the US to ignore him and deal with the Kurds.

Corsair on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Right, but he was just ousted by the parliament, including his own party, and replaced by a Kurd, right? So without a coup, he’s even easier to ignore, since he isn’t in charge.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Son, didn’t Mama tell you there’s no future in freebasing Gardasil?

Because there isn’t…

JohnGalt23 on August 10, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Shove it, Junior. I’m probably old enough to be your father.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know,
bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Since you really “don’t know”, keeping your mouth shut might not be a bad idea.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know, but if they are, yep. Nuke ‘em. Islam is an evil cult, and I am totally for eradication of same.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Just checked, and yep, they are Muslims. Nuke ‘em.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Get help.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Alzheimers is a terrible thing.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Right, but he was just ousted by the parliament, including his own party, and replaced by a Kurd, right? So without a coup, he’s even easier to ignore, since he isn’t in charge.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:55 PM

It’s pretty clear that there is no one in charge since the dog eater abandoned the effort.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Well, you got that one right. Keep to that thread.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Shove it, Junior. I’m probably old enough to be your father.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

And dumb as the stone he’s buried under.

Tell me, planning on nuking our NATO allies in Turkey? How about Pakistan? Think they might reply in kind? How about Saudi Arabia? Hell, what about the ones in Israel?

You really haven’t thought this through, have you? That’s what too much time at the pipe will do for you…

JohnGalt23 on August 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM

A coup in Iraq would make things easy for the U.S. Abandon Maliki and deal with the Kurds exclusively from now on

— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) August 10, 2014

Correct. Thats why I think we ought to bypass Bagdad with any relief supplies and send them straight to Erbil & help the Kurds turn it into a free, open world city that can receive aid and flights from anywhere, bypassing the Iranian catemite Maliki down in Bagdad.

Sacramento on August 10, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Right, but he was just ousted by the parliament, including his own party, and replaced by a Kurd, right? So without a coup, he’s even easier to ignore, since he isn’t in charge.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Since they (parliament) haven’t actually elected a new prime minister yet, he is still in charge as interim prime minister, but they were supposed to elect a new one this week. So they might have been ready to announce it and Maliki decided he didn’t like it. Media reports are still sketchy as always.

Corsair on August 10, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know, but if they are, yep. Nuke ‘em. Islam is an evil cult, and I am totally for eradication of same.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Wow.

I mean…wow.

BlaxPac on August 10, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Of course, our semi-retired president is too busy vacationing to deal with this in a hands-on manner. This is precisely why you don’t go on vacation in a situation like this. Schmuck.

Aizen on August 10, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Correct. Thats why I think we ought to bypass Bagdad with any relief supplies and send them straight to Erbil & help the Kurds turn it into a free, open world city that can receive aid and flights from anywhere, bypassing the Iranian catemite Maliki down in Bagdad.

Sacramento on August 10, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Nice thought. It completely contradicts dogeater and ValJar’s world-view.

Hell will freeze over first …

gh on August 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Since you really “don’t know”, keeping your mouth shut might not be a bad idea.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

You making the rules here at HotAir now?? Don’t dare tell me to shut my mouth, Sparky. Joking about Alzheimer’s disease is pretty shltty, too.

Grow up, Son.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Just some friendly advice junior.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 9:08 PM

JohnGalt23 on August 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Pretty dense, John. You cannot even comprehend a bit of snark when it’s posted.

Y’all are taking yourselves too seriously tonight, I guess.

Have a good night saving the world…

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Deck chairs.

Titanic.

You know the drill.

And, yeah, anybody who remembers the real Kennedy Administration is having some very bad deja vu.

This is why some Baby Boomers are anything but seduced by tales of Camelot.

formwiz on August 10, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Meh. Iraq’s a phony country created out of thin air by the League of Nations. By the way, where is the United Nations in all of this, and why is Iraq suddenly our responsibility now?

HiJack on August 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM

By the way, where is the United Nations in all of this, and why is Iraq suddenly our responsibility now?

HiJack on August 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Can we please keep Inept Notions out of this for once.

dddave on August 10, 2014 at 9:21 PM

You making the rules here at HotAir now?? Don’t dare tell me to shut my mouth, Sparky. Joking about Alzheimer’s disease is pretty shltty, too.
Grow up, Son.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Says the guy who wants us to nuke the Kurds because all Muslims are evil.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 9:25 PM

IMO, Kurds should be independent anyway. Kurdistan. Yep.

It really works since Iran basically runs Baghdad anyway, and they BOTH need the USA and Iran to save their bacon.

What an effed up world.

Diluculo on August 10, 2014 at 9:26 PM

By the way, where is the United Nations in all of this, and why is Iraq suddenly our responsibility now?

HiJack on August 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM

The United Nations is where it always is… off being utterly useless. And Iraq didn’t “suddenly” become our responsibility. They became our responsibility when we, for some reason, decided that we needed to have our military go try and make them a democracy.

Shump on August 10, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Can we please keep Inept Notions out of this for once.

dddave on August 10, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Okay, let’s do that, and while we’re at it, how about really supporting the soldiers by keeping them out if it, too.

HiJack on August 10, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Says the guy who wants us to nuke the Kurds because all Muslims are evil.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Is nuking every Muslim country the answer? I’ll grant you that it’s probably not. Nuking a few of them wouldn’t be the worst thing ever, though.

Are all Muslims evil? No. Some are just ignorant of what their “faith” truly teaches. But Islam itself IS evil. The tiny percentage of “peaceful” Muslims in places like the United States are the radical minority, not those who spend their time slaughtering everyone they can get their hands on. Those are the vast majority and the ones who are doing what Islam teaches.

Shump on August 10, 2014 at 9:32 PM

And now a word from President Obama, “Fore!”

ncjetsfan on August 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM

The bigger question is, How will this affect Obama’s vacation?

Jack_Burton on August 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM

weedisgood on August 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Whatever, John.

hawkdriver on August 10, 2014 at 9:39 PM

May the Kurds prevail.

onlineanalyst on August 10, 2014 at 9:41 PM

May the Kurds prevail.

onlineanalyst on August 10, 2014 at 9:41 PM

All they really need is ammo.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 9:42 PM

I’d rather hear about a coup out on The Vineyard.

Sting on August 10, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Lord have mercy.

PattyJ on August 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Since they (parliament) haven’t actually elected a new prime minister yet, he is still in charge as interim prime minister, but they were supposed to elect a new one this week. So they might have been ready to announce it and Maliki decided he didn’t like it. Media reports are still sketchy as always.

Corsair on August 10, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I see. I was getting confused, I just reread and it’s the president (which I guess is much weaker in a parliamentary system) that is a Kurd. So they probably weren’t about to replace Maliki with a Kurd.

I guess whether the coup is good or not depends on what the alternative really was, i.e., who was going to replace Maliki. And that in turn depends on why Maliki lost the confidence of his own (presumably Shiite) party. If they were really annoyed with his bungling of the ISIS situation, and blame him for an imminent breakup of Iraq, then maybe they would be more receptive to Letting us arm the Kurds, on the condition that they remain in the fold.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Says the guy who wants us to nuke the Kurds because all Muslims are evil.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Is nuking every Muslim country the answer? I’ll grant you that it’s probably not. Nuking a few of them wouldn’t be the worst thing ever, though.

Are all Muslims evil? No. Some are just ignorant of what their “faith” truly teaches. But Islam itself IS evil. The tiny percentage of “peaceful” Muslims in places like the United States are the radical minority, not those who spend their time slaughtering everyone they can get their hands on. Those are the vast majority and the ones who are doing what Islam teaches.

Shump on August 10, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Protip: when nuking countries, it helps to be judicious about which ones.

Nuking the Kurds is quite possibly the dumbest idea that’s been posted here since whenever the last libfreeordie comment was.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM

You misspelled bass-akwards. :p

S. D. on August 10, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Correct. Thats why I think we ought to bypass Bagdad with any relief supplies and send them straight to Erbil & help the Kurds turn it into a free, open world city that can receive aid and flights from anywhere, bypassing the Iranian catemite Maliki down in Bagdad.

Sacramento on August 10, 2014 at 9:03 PM

The Kurdish rep that was on Fox on Friday seemed more credible than any other reps from the region, but they seem to be in fairly dire need of arms and ammo from the US that have not been forthcoming, although promised for over 10 years.

talkingpoints on August 10, 2014 at 9:57 PM

The bigger question is, How will this affect Obama’s vacation?

Jack_Burton on August 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Nah, the inbox will just overflow a bit more till he gets back. So Iran now has a stooge for dictator in Iraq. The question is does the parliament get sent home, arrested or machine gunned.

KW64 on August 10, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Wait… Isn’t Maliki presently Prime Minister until Parliament selects someone else?

Who is the coup against? Parliament or Maliki, and if he is the PM, then how can it be a coup? A coup by the PM? What? Isn’t that just the government shutting things down?

I’m so confused. Who are the good guys again?

petunia on August 10, 2014 at 10:00 PM

petunia on August 10, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Maliki was kicked out. By his own party apparently. Refused to leave.

gh on August 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM

You making the rules here at HotAir now?? Don’t dare tell me to shut my mouth, Sparky. Joking about Alzheimer’s disease is pretty shltty, too.

Grow up, Son.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I don’t think he/she was joking.

Walter L. Newton on August 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM

ISIS will take advantage of this as soon as possible, anyway possible. I feel for the innocent non-muslims in that country.

Walter L. Newton on August 10, 2014 at 10:06 PM

You know, our Dear Leader is such an idiot and we are entering uncharted territory. He has blown the place up. But the Middle East is not Europe and we cannot go on trying to save it for the 10% there who want a secular democracy.

I do pray that this conflagration leads to some type of stability and not another world war. I would guess even Putin would not want to venture into this mess now.

PattyJ on August 10, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Everyone knew that Maliki was not going to be re-elected Prime Minister. Even the Shiites are not fully behind him, let alone the Kurds or the Sunnis.

This is a coup. It is the equivalent as if President Obama refused to step down and used the military to seize power after the completion of his second term because there was some uncertainty as to who got elected to replace him.

Who knows if Maliki can pull it off. If he can’t then this is bad because Iraq is divided at a time it needs to be united against the ISIS and this wastes their strength on internal conflicts.

If he can pull it off then this is even worse because Iraq will no longer be a democratic nation, and we will have lost the biggest gain we got out of the Iraq war.

In that case the best thing we can do is recognize Kurd independence and hope we can protect the Kurdish state while the Sunnis and Shiites kill each other.

Sackett on August 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Just checked, and yep, they are Muslims. Nuke ‘em. – bimmcorp at 8:53 PM

; )

They’re very moderate Sunni types and accept other religions and ethnics pretty well, mostly because America convinced them to practice tolerance. Unlike the mad dog Sunnis of ISIS that the Kurds are fighting now.

Toocon on August 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Who knows if Maliki can pull it off. If he can’t then this is bad because Iraq is divided at a time it needs to be united against the ISIS and this wastes their strength on internal conflicts.

Sackett on August 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM

I don’t know, it depends a bit on how strong and unified Maliki’s opponents are, and what their intentions are. If a lot of them are pro-Iran, and are opposing Maliki because Iran has lost confidence in him, them that’s bad.

If, on the other hand, the anger at Maliki is primarily BECAUSE he has been so divisive, and his divisiveness is blamed for the rise of ISIS, then maybe, if he can be ousted, there might be more support for national unity than thought. ISIS has given everyone else a common enemy, at least.

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 10:22 PM

There seems to be some confusion here because Iraq has a parliamentary government (like Britain) and not a Presidential government like the US.

They elected a Kurd president which is a more ceremonial position in a parliamentary government. The President appoints the Prime Minister after the Prime Minister is elected by the parliament (so it really is parliament who chooses the Prime Minister).

It’s not entirely clear here, but there are a couple possibilities:

1) Everyone knows the parliament was not going to reelect Maliki, so maybe they were finally coming to an agreement on somebody and Maliki is trying to seize power before that happens.

2) What happens if parliament fails to elect a new Prime Minister? Who is appointed as the interim Prime Minister? The Iraqi constitution might not be clear on what happens. Perhaps the new President refused to appoint Maliki as the interim Prime Minister? Maliki might be using that as a pretense to seize power and accuse the President of trying to take over in a coup.

Let me suggest that the key thing here is who is using military power to forcibly seize power? Maliki. That means Maliki is the one engaging in a coup.

Sackett on August 10, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Who knows if Maliki can pull it off. If he can’t then this is bad because Iraq is divided at a time it needs to be united against the ISIS and this wastes their strength on internal conflicts.

If he can pull it off then this is even worse because Iraq will no longer be a democratic nation, and we will have lost the biggest gain we got out of the Iraq war. – Sackett at 10:12 PM

Maliki as PM is the main reason Iraq has fallen apart.

He reneged on key power-sharing agreements with the Sunni. That is why the Sunni elements in Iraq’s military deserted. It is why the Sunni areas aren’t hard for (Sunni) ISIS to take over.

Everyone hates Maliki. No one trusts him at all.

Iraq’s goose is cooked if Maliki doesn’t go. Even if he leaves, it looks grim but Iraq will cease to exist if he stays.

We don’t know yet if this is just Iran’s attempt at triage to salvage a strong and wealthy Shi’ite state in southern Iraq. That may be the real play that is occurring here. And let America back the Kurds in taking the brunt of the ISIS assault on Iraq.

Toocon on August 10, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Coup underway in Iraq

Could be some folks over there are a little nervous about being captured by ISIS and having their heads carved off with a dull knife while they’re still breathing.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Other than Israel, No head of state Retires or Stepe Down in the middle east.

thelastminstrel on August 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM

You want to nuke the Kurds? Really?

RINO in Name Only on August 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Are Kurds Muslim? I really don’t know, but if they are, yep. Nuke ‘em. Islam is an evil cult, and I am totally for eradication of same.

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Are you honestly in support of mass murder based solely on a person’s religion? Man, woman, child, extremist, moderate, cultural, etc – it doesn’t matter, just kill them?

I hope that’s internet bravado and not what you really believe.

As for the Kurdish people, they have been extremely close allies of the United States (in spite of us having screwed them over a number of times over the years). They have done more to help the Christians, Yazidis and other people fleeing from ISIS than we have at this point. They are good people that have stayed decent in spite of decades of crappy treatment from most of the people around them.

But, you’re right, they’re Muslim, so I guess that’s all we need to know before we decide to annihilate them….

JadeNYU on August 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Maliki as PM is the main reason Iraq has fallen apart.

He reneged on key power-sharing agreements with the Sunni. That is why the Sunni elements in Iraq’s military deserted. It is why the Sunni areas aren’t hard for (Sunni) ISIS to take over.

Everyone hates Maliki. No one trusts him at all.

Iraq’s goose is cooked if Maliki doesn’t go. Even if he leaves, it looks grim but Iraq will cease to exist if he stays.

Toocon on August 10, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Let us not forget that Maliki was Iran’s (and Obama’s) choice as PM. He was Iran’s shine boy from the beginning, and Obama knew it. He also knew that Maliki would add to the chaos there and, as a plus, would not agree (because of Iran) to a SOFA, which would make Obama’s promise to leave Iraq much more doable.

A win win, that is, if you think like Obama and have dedicated your life to the overthrow of the USA and the West.

TXUS on August 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Oh, f@#k.

Professor Blather on August 10, 2014 at 11:04 PM

I hope The Mooch sends the Kurds lots and lots of broccoli.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I hope The Mooch sends the Kurds lots and lots of broccoli.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Why, they are the good guys!

OldEnglish on August 10, 2014 at 11:26 PM

And yet another Obama foreign policy success.

Wonder how Hillary spins her way out of this one.

And…for all you Kool Aid drinkers….Ukraine is on deck.

Bush must have been some super clusterfark to be able to booby trap the whole world 6 years later for our Putter-In-Chief.

November….PLEASE HURRY!!!!

johnmckenna@cox.net on August 10, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Let us not forget that Maliki was Iran’s (and Obama’s) choice as PM. He was Iran’s shine boy from the beginning, and Obama knew it. He also knew that Maliki would add to the chaos there and, as a plus, would not agree (because of Iran) to a SOFA, which would make Obama’s promise to leave Iraq much more doable.

A win win, that is, if you think like Obama and have dedicated your life to the overthrow of the USA and the West. – TXUS at 10:53 PM

Don’t cut yourself on that ax you’re grinding.

Maliki was, like Chalabi, a government-in-exile type. We keep trotting these guys out, mostly to fool gullible Americans as the rest of the world knows they are our puppets. If anyone, he was the pick of Bush’s bunch. Obama merely continued Maliki’s tenure.

Wiki:

Al-Maliki and his government succeeded the Iraqi Transitional Government. He is currently in his second term as Prime Minister. His first Cabinet was approved by the National Assembly and sworn in on 20 May 2006; his second Cabinet, in which he also holds the positions of acting Interior Minister, acting Defense Minister, and acting National Security Minister, was approved on 21 December 2010.

Al-Maliki began his political career as a Shia dissident under Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship in the late 1970s and rose to prominence after he fled a death sentence into exile for 24 years. During his time abroad, he became a senior leader of Dawa, coordinated the activities of anti-Saddam guerrillas and built relationships with Iranian and Syrian officials whose help he sought in overthrowing Saddam. Al-Maliki worked closely with United States and coalition forces in Iraq since their departure by the end of 2011. In June 2014, the United States has asked for Maliki to give up his premiership.

Toocon on August 10, 2014 at 11:43 PM

If anyone, he was the pick of Bush’s bunch. Obama merely continued Maliki’s tenure.

Toocon on August 10, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Gee… I don’t see anywhere in that quote that he was the pick of any US president?

Walter L. Newton on August 10, 2014 at 11:52 PM

The Kurds are the only people in Iraq that thanked us for our trouble, which is why the Dog Eater is forsaking them…they love America (although I can’t fathom why, after being treated so poorly. They are moderates and warriors in a country full of extremist and cowards.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/10/iraq.kurds1
http://www.theotheriraq.com/

AppraisHer on August 11, 2014 at 12:01 AM

Gee… I don’t see anywhere in that quote that he was the pick of any US president? – Walter L. Newton at 11:52 PM

Bush’s bunch greased the skids for Maliki, having failed to impose another ex-Iraqi (Chalabi), for the role. So Maliki is a Bush creation in much the same way that the current Kiev regime are obvious puppets of Obama and Victoria Nuland. And everyone knows it.

After winning his first election, Maliki then continued his Shi’a politics in cahoots with Assad and Iran. Our U.S. ambassador, Crocker, used to do a lot of good keeping Maliki from his own destructive tendencies but now he has become an Iranian puppet, like Assad has become. In the process, he has lost most of Iraq but has 85% of Iraq’s oil and a heavily Shi’a enclave in southern Iraq.

That leaves the Kurds and America to deal with the ISIS threat so Iran/Baghdad don’t have to.

Toocon on August 11, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Bush’s bunch greased the skids for Maliki

Toocon on August 11, 2014 at 12:21 AM

If by “greased the skids” you mean “opposed him vehemently,” then you’re right.

Bush always supported the secular Sunni Ghazi Mashal Ajil al-Yawr.

Al-Maliki was elected fair and square. There was nothing Bush could do to prevent his election.

A Chair of Some Kind on August 11, 2014 at 12:34 AM

Can’t remember stuff like this happening when Saddam Hussein was in charge…

JohnGalt23 on August 10, 2014 at 7:30 PM

How do you think Saddam Hussein GOT in charge?

He waded through blood to become the dictator, and waded through blood to keep it. If he hadn’t invaded Kuwait, he’d probably still be in power.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 11, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Bush always supported the secular Sunni Ghazi Mashal Ajil al-Yawr.

I doubt he fooled the Saudis with that. It was a dog-and-pony show for their benefit. They desired the large Shi’a majority in Iraq should continue to be dominated by the Sunni minority, just as happened under the Sunni Baathist, Saddam Hussein.

Toocon on August 11, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Apparently, according to the Iraqi Constitution, the new Prime Minister has to come from the party with the most seats in Parliament. Currently, the State of Law, Maliki’s own Party holds the most seats.

So, Maliki is only correct that the new President is acting unconstitutionally if he names a new PM from a different party. But it certainly doesn’t mean that if Maliki simply isn’t selected again as PM.

UnstChem on August 11, 2014 at 12:54 AM

It’s hard to imagine any president being so much worse than Carter.

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2014 at 1:12 AM

the difference was it was Kennedy and not Obama.

bflat879 on August 10, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Both worthless sons of Ireland.

BL@KBIRD on August 11, 2014 at 1:49 AM

How do you think Saddam Hussein GOT in charge?

He waded through blood to become the dictator, and waded through blood to keep it. If he hadn’t invaded Kuwait, he’d probably still be in power.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 11, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Whether or not that’s how he got in charge, it’s becoming more and more evident that that’s what he had to do to stay in charge…

JohnGalt23 on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 AM

Iraq Army units are already turning against Al-Maliki in the green zone. Either way, the former PM is done. The only question is does he walk, or is he carried out.(I hope he walks, otherwise this is going to be very messy.)

flackcatcher on August 11, 2014 at 2:14 AM

Whether or not that’s how he got in charge, it’s becoming more and more evident that that’s what he had to do to stay in charge…

JohnGalt23 on August 11, 2014 at 1:52 AM

What we have learned, hopefully, is that democracy, which is a product of the Enlightenment, cannot flourish without enlightenment.

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2014 at 3:32 AM

Shiite, Kurds, Sunnis…I forget..which ones are the ‘moderate’ & ‘peaceful’ Muslims??

bimmcorp on August 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Moderate muslims can be identified by the empty weapons that they are reloading.

Wino on August 11, 2014 at 5:05 AM

This is what a “sovereign, free, and stable Iraq” looks like.

Democracy is not meant for third world toilets. This chain of invents was inevitable, not matter what the timing of our withdrawal from Iraq. Too bad Maliki is too feckless to pull it off.

Poor Barack, the world continues to disappoint him. What bad luck. So unexpected!

Nomennovum on August 11, 2014 at 6:19 AM

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