The 3rd “draft Mitt” movement still has a few glaring problems

posted at 5:31 pm on August 9, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Our friend Matt Lewis takes to the pages of the Telegraph this week with an impassioned defense of the record – and perhaps future political viability – of Mitt Romney. And to be sure, a lot of the admittedly retrospective praise in this article is fully deserved.

First, since his 2012 defeat, Mr Romney has been proved right about a variety of issues. When he called Russia a “geopolitical foe” during a 2012 presidential debate, Mr Obama gibed: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because the Cold War has now been over for twenty years.” …

Within seconds of taunting Mitt over Russia, during that same debate, Mr Obama crowed: “Just a few weeks ago, you said you think we should have more troops in Iraq right now.” …

But it wasn’t just foreign policy. On the domestic front, Mr Romney warned about ObamaCare, saying that some of the “people who counted on the insurance plan they had in the past” would “lose it”. In 2013, Politifact named the “if you like your plan, you can keep it” line their “lie of the year”.

It’s hard to argue with Matt on any of these points. Mitt Romney was proven to be right on a variety of important topics, and not just areas where he found some subtle difference of opinion with his debate opponent. Many of these are policy areas where Romney was openly and widely ridiculed, providing fodder for The Daily Show and Saturday Night Live. Of course, nobody is laughing now.

But Lewis launches from this solid platform of analyzing Romney’s vision to speculate that it might not be all that crazy to think that Mitt should still wind up in the Oval Office.

He was often cast as a rich guy who led a charmed life. But Americans like a comeback story, and what better way to reinvent oneself as a man of the people than to have lost at something, only to get up, brush yourself off, and try again.

Mr Romney ran for the Republican nomination in 2008, falling short to John McCain. So this would be his third attempt at the presidency – which is not unprecedented. Most famously, William Jennings Bryan was a three-time losing Democratic nominee for president. But the American public has presumably grown more fickle since then.

He goes on from there to draw other historical parallels, further pointing out that Nixon lost presidential and gubernatorial bids in 1960 and 1962, only to go on to win the White House in 68. That’s certainly true, but I would note that the examples given come from a very different era, when American attitudes and the political machines of the day operated in a very different way. We had many perpetual candidates in the first half of the 20th century and it was nothing unusual. But the demand for something new all of the time in America has swept those old campaign modes aside. US voters in the modern era take a page from the opening speech of the movie Patton, never tolerating “a loser” for very long. Mitt was dedicated and persevered, but he’s now lost to both John McCain and Barack Obama.

Also, I simply don’t see any sort of grassroots conservative uprising to draft Mitt again. In fact, it’s just the opposite. Matt points to some recent polls which show that, if they had the chance to do it over again, voters wish they’d chosen Romney over Obama. True enough, and easy to understand, but that’s not to say that they wish to head to the theaters and watch this movie for a third time. Mitt still rings up big numbers in New Hampshire, but these are voters who carry a clear memory of Romney as a candidate for the best part of a decade and as yet have no definitive, declared candidates for the next cycle who aren’t mired in questions and controversy. As we get closer to 2016 and some substantial hats are tossed into the ring, that will probably change drastically.

And finally, there is the real missing piece of the Romney 2016 equation: we have yet to see any indication that Mitt is actually interested or could even be cajoled into another turn in the line of fire. As Noah pointed out in June, Romney has very recently been asked about it and said the idea was silly. Some members of Romney’s own inner circle have brought it up and gotten a response of (quote) No, no, no, no, no,no, no, no.

There may be a Draft Mitt movement taking place out there, but I think it’s largely a media creation. And even in as much as it may exist, Mitt himself doesn’t seem to be a member of it.


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Noooooooooooooooo……….

BallisticBob on August 9, 2014 at 5:37 PM

The Grandpa of Obamacare is only going to keep the good parts.

Ruckus_Tom on August 9, 2014 at 5:39 PM

The argument for Mitt seems to be based on some idea that any other Republican nominee to run against Obama would have had different takes on our dealings with Russia, the Middle East and Persian Gulf or on Obama’s economic programs.

Anyone who got the GOP nomination would be able to run the same “I told you so” victory lap and say the same things right now that Romney’s saying. So that’s not much of a justification for making Mitt the next Thomas E Dewey — the last Republican nominee to get a Mulligan just four years after losing a presidential election (and it didn’t work any better for the Democrats in 1952-56 with Adlai Stevenson).

jon1979 on August 9, 2014 at 5:41 PM

After the 1st debate, Romney attacked Obama and was scared that he might actually win. Don’t expect him to make the same mistake twice.

Fenris on August 9, 2014 at 5:48 PM

There may be a Draft Mitt movement taking place out there, but I think it’s largely a media creation.

Yep, just like with Hillary Clinton, Liz Warren, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and every other mother-lovin’ name being floated around out there…

As for the speculation of Mitt running a third time?

Nix, nein, nyet, no, no way, not feckin’ even…

Newtie and the Beauty on August 9, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Elect Mitt Romney, the father of Romneycare and Obamacare.

Viator on August 9, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Mitt Romney offers ISIS free health care if they stop the war.

Viator on August 9, 2014 at 5:50 PM

The dog days of August my mother used to call it when it comes to politics.

lea on August 9, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Unless they draft him at a deadlocked convention-a highly unlikely scenario-Mitt will not be running for president.

gerrym51 on August 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Why don’t we try someone who actually believes in the Constitution, as written, and uses common sense. You know, a conservative.

ncjetsfan on August 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM

We could do worse. I remain a fan of Mitt Romney and would enthusiastically support his candidacy.

<ducks>

aquaviva on August 9, 2014 at 6:02 PM

…We had many perpetual candidates in the first half of the 20th century and it was nothing unusual. But the demand for something new all of the time in America has swept those old campaign modes aside…

Exceptions will be made for Hillary of curse.

slickwillie2001 on August 9, 2014 at 6:02 PM

The 3rd “draft Mitt” movement still has a few glaring problems

Yeah, like it still involves Mitt Romney!

Corsair on August 9, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Oh please. Not Mitt.

cat_owner on August 9, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Corsair on August 9, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Lol, that’s a good one.

cat_owner on August 9, 2014 at 6:08 PM

It’s hard to argue with Matt on any of these points. Mitt Romney was proven to be right on a variety of important topics, and not just areas where he found some subtle difference of opinion with his debate opponent.

Not saying Romney wasn’t right or doesn’t deserve credit (especially while facing down Obama’s snarky and stupid jokes), but he was far from the only major political figure making those predictions.

What it says is that anyone with half a brain who had been watching the first term of the Obama administration knew exactly what was bound to occur under his “leadership.” It doesn’t make Romney a savant in that regard, just the guy fortunate enough to get past the GOP primary as the conservative base (as usual) split itself.

Aizen on August 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM

I won’t vote for him again, or any other squish.

fogw on August 9, 2014 at 6:16 PM

To the Mitt drafters: you are unwanted, go home.

Mitt is a Mormon and couldn’t figure out door-to-door politics.

He still hasn’t.

A re-run gets you whoever the D’s put up at pitchfork point, possibly Hillary or Fauxcohontas. Do you really want either of those as President? How about Joe Biden? Yeah, Mitt can’t outbox Joe Biden at this point even though there are regrets about not voting for him last time around, he couldn’t deal with the christmas ornament attack du jours thrown at him last time.

Binders.

Get real.

Find someone who has the fire in their belly to run, and doesn’t want to check off a list in their life like Mitt Romney.

ajacksonian on August 9, 2014 at 6:24 PM

You mean … like he still doesn’t want the job?

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 6:24 PM

These people need a life. They are almost as pathetic as liberals.

Let it go – he ran twice and lost – he’s not running again.

gophergirl on August 9, 2014 at 6:25 PM

I’ll write in “Thad Cochran” first.

kringeesmom on August 9, 2014 at 6:25 PM

I heard him interviewed a couple of weeks ago and he sounded so “presidential”. Do I wish he were president now? Absolutely. Do I want him to run again? No.

tj4osu on August 9, 2014 at 6:25 PM

The glaring problem being the word “Mitt” in the title.

Dack Thrombosis on August 9, 2014 at 6:26 PM

I’m glad I voted for him and he was right about pretty much everything.

That said, we need somebody willing to rip the Demos to shreds.

formwiz on August 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM

He governed Mass. as a progressive what makes anyone think he would govern the USA any different.

RickB on August 9, 2014 at 6:31 PM

P. T. Barnum was right.

RickB on August 9, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Put him in charge of whatever the biggest mess is and I would have trouble figuring out what that is.

crankyoldlady on August 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM

There were many of us who held our nose to vote for Mitt in 2012 and now they want us to do it again? We knew Mitt would be better than Obama, however we’re not sure who will be a candidate in 2016 so why are they so anxious to annoint Mitt? Once again, the establishment is trying to screw up an election and I, for one, won’t buy it.

bflat879 on August 9, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Speaking of Elections:

2014 U.S. ELECTION CALENDAR

AUGUST 9, 2014:
Hawaii – Primary Election

http://www.politics1.com/calendar.htm

canopfor on August 9, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Mitt Romney offers ISIS free health care if they stop the war.

that might actually work!

gerrym51 on August 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Jazz:

Tossing out some click bait to get the masses riled up, huh?

307wolverine on August 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM

First, since his 2012 defeat, Mr Romney has been proved right about a variety of issues. When he called Russia a “geopolitical foe” during a 2012 presidential debate, Mr Obama gibed: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because the Cold War has now been over for twenty years.” …

Within seconds of taunting Mitt over Russia, during that same debate, Mr Obama crowed: “Just a few weeks ago, you said you think we should have more troops in Iraq right now.” …
==================================================

Ya I remember those crack comments.
The Lefty MSM, and Liberals sure did
enjoy the smart-*zzery, that night, and
for weeks to come after that!

canopfor on August 9, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Speaking of Iraq,…..more Whacking:

Iraq crisis
12m
Officials: U.S. military forces conducted 4 more airstrikes in Iraq – @NBCNightlyNews
End of alert

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews
==================================

NBC Nightly News @NBCNightlyNews · 20m

JUST IN: U.S. military forces conducted 4 more airstrikes today to defend civilians against ISIS militants in Iraq, @DeptofDefense says

https://twitter.com/DeptofDefense

canopfor on August 9, 2014 at 6:53 PM

a few glaring problems

The main one being Mitt. He had his shot, and blew it.

Kenosha Kid on August 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

DRAFTABLE!!

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 6:58 PM

We could do worse. I remain a fan of Mitt Romney and would enthusiastically support his candidacy.

aquaviva on August 9, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Damning with faint praise.

lorien1973 on August 9, 2014 at 7:02 PM

I know AP has been using this as comment chum, but it’s just bunk. Romney is not going to run again. He probably should, but he’s not going to.

The hatred here reminds me of the kind of crap Republicans get from the Progs or the kind of hate the Palestinian have for Jews.

These gripes are either trolls or people who would rather shoot their own toes off just to prove their gun was loaded.

flataffect on August 9, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Our friend Matt Lewis takes to the pages of the Telegraph this week with an impassioned defense of the record – and perhaps future political viability – of Mitt Romney.

Matt Lewis is a socialist Christian, like Cal Thomas. Supporting RINOs like Romney? Give me a break.

rickv404 on August 9, 2014 at 7:24 PM

If Mitt were part of a “Draft Mitt” movement, it would be a phony draft movement.

He may not be the best candidate we could put forth – we have deep bench of successful governors and former governors – but he would probably the best suited President to reorganize and cut the federal government. So there is that.

Adjoran on August 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM

I like Governor Romney, he’s a fine man and he would be 100 times the president that Barry is.

If you believe the results of the last election, millions of Republicans stayed home rather than vote for him. Unless we think they will do different this time around, there’s no point in nominating Governor Romney again.

slickwillie2001 on August 9, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Romney has since been promoting pro-amnesty politicians like Christie and has been talking about the need to pass “immigration reform” aka illegal alien amnesty. I don’t trust him on the issue anymore. He has retreated from his strong and correct stance during the primaries. Very disappointing. And I supported him so strongly.

bluegill on August 9, 2014 at 8:06 PM

He may not be the best candidate we could put forth – we have deep bench of successful governors and former governors – but he would probably the best suited President to reorganize and cut the federal government. So there is that.
Adjoran on August 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM

He couldn’t even reorganize his own bumbling general election campaign.

bluegill on August 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM

that might actually work!

gerrym51 on August 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM

France has been trying this sort of thing with its North African imports… they now have the car-b-q, rioting ‘youths’, and balkanization of the country to show for trying to bribe Islamists with free stuff.

You cannot bribe barbarians with goodies, as they will only want it all as you do not value what you give them very highly.

ajacksonian on August 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM

The hatred here reminds me of the kind of crap Republicans get from the Progs or the kind of hate the Palestinian have for Jews.
These gripes are either trolls or people who would rather shoot their own toes off just to prove their gun was loaded.
flataffect on August 9, 2014 at 7:21 PM

What a sick comment.

Most people here likely voted for Mitt!

This time I think many people are hoping for a more aggressive, less cautious candidate who will actually excite us.

bluegill on August 9, 2014 at 8:11 PM

You mean the same Matt Lewis that thought what could unite conservatives and gays was an admiration of back hair?

…Yeahhhhh, the delusion is still strong with the Mittwits.

Stoic Patriot on August 9, 2014 at 8:14 PM

It’s hard to argue with Matt on any of these points. Mitt Romney was proven to be right on a variety of important topics, and not just areas where he found some subtle difference of opinion with his debate opponent.

When you take both sides of every issue, you’re bound to be right half of the time.

Stoic Patriot on August 9, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Jon Gruber, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Jon Gruber, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 8:26 PM

So, basically, there are people even dumber than Christie supporters.

trigon on August 9, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The 3rd “draft Mitt” movement still has a few glaring problems

Good!

Never again…

kakypat on August 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Romney had his chance, and laid down.

GarandFan on August 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM

The 3rd “draft Mitt” movement still has a few glaring problems

Hey!! Where’s our facepalm graphic!!

A title like this needs a facepalm!

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 9, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Still waiting for someone somewhere to propose a more capable, more qualified candidate. So far here isn’t one. I’m not interested in electing a ideologue whose every other word is “constitution” but has never really run much. Not interested in running any more Senators at all.

So far Romney is the best man for the job.

crosspatch on August 9, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Speaking of humanising the Republican, there’s another reason a Romney run might not be crazy, and that is that having lost a campaign might actually make him more likeable.

Surreal.

ddrintn on August 9, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Still waiting for someone somewhere to propose a more capable, more qualified candidate. So far here isn’t one.

I can think of a few dozen.

I’m not interested in electing a ideologue whose every other word is “constitution” but has never really run much. Not interested in running any more Senators at all.

So far Romney is the best man for the job.

crosspatch on August 9, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Romney couldn’t even run an effective campaign. I’ll take “constitution” any day, thanks.

ddrintn on August 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM

crosspatch on August 9, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Plus, Mitt’s so…electable, right? Go on. You know you want to say it.

ddrintn on August 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Another loser piece by Matt Lewis.

Warner Todd Huston on August 9, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Mitt couldn’t handle Candy Crowley- she had her way with him like a Viking with an Irish virgin.

I’d prefer somebody who wants to be the Leader of the Free World to be able to dominate an uppity fat chick on TV.

(Just as a minimum qualification, dontchaknow.)

And just one more time for the record; it wasn’t those wacko-bird conservative Christians who stayed home in 2012, it was your squishy in-the-middle GOPer types who didn’t make it to the polls for Mitt.

Dolce Far Niente on August 9, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Speaking of humanising the Republican, there’s another reason a Romney run might not be crazy, and that is that having lost a campaign might actually make him more likeable.

Surreal.

ddrintn on August 9, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Remember when nonpartisan , I think it was, claimed Obama missed the 23 free throws to make himself seem more approachable and less intimidating to people?

Same quality of desperation/hopefulness as here.

Dolce Far Niente on August 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM

The 3rd “draft Mitt” movement still has a few glaring problems

With the worst being Mitt Romney, and his ties to Romneycare, the inspiration for Obamacare.

dominigan on August 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM

No.

Romney spoiled the election. He curb-stomped his primary opponents and then turned Bob Dole on us in the general election against Obama. He didn’t even want to be president, but he was happy to get the nomination by slandering his opponents.

For that reason alone, the GOP is playing with fire if they’re contemplating pushing Romney yet again.

Aitch748 on August 9, 2014 at 10:04 PM

But, but, but..Mittens will issue executive orders granting waivers from Obamacare on the first day of his presidency!!

I still can’t believe how Romney pulled off that heist in 2012. The father of Obamacare won the GOoPer nomination in the age of Tea Party by claiming he was “severely conservative”! LOL!!!

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM

I predict a sudden swap from the RINOS at Hotair pushing Romney back to Jeb Bush.

But you better hold off until Ted Cruz fixes the border crisis. That “they come here for love” crap is still a little fresh.

conservativeBC on August 9, 2014 at 10:21 PM

I’m sure a lot of british citizens will read that article in the UK paper and vote for Mitt…

*blech*

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 10:29 PM

But you better hold off until Ted Cruz fixes the border crisis. That “they come here for love” crap is still a little fresh.

conservativeBC on August 9, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Gov. Perry is working on securing the border….Ted Cruz is on vacation along with the rest of congress.

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Geez, Ned’s even scared of Romney.

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Romney had his chance, and laid down with Jon Gruber.

GarandFan on August 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM

FIFY, Garand.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 10:50 PM

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 10:39 PM

You are brilliant! A true genius.. I was so scared of Romney in 2012 and I am even more scared of Romney in 2016. You are better than Einstein.

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM

A gentle reminder to the Mittwits:

This is the guy who helped Mitt concoct Romneycare in Mass-uh-chew-sits.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Anyone else hear that squealing sound?

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Anyone else hear that squealing sound?

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I think I stepped in something. Has Ned been commenting here again?

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 10:59 PM

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 10:55 PM

But, but, but..Mittens will issue executive orders granting waivers from Obamacare on the first day of his presidency!!

Romneycare was Mittens small mistake..youthful indiscretion if you will!

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Romney is not going to run..He has already said this..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM

But, but, but..Mittens will issue executive orders granting waivers from Obamacare on the first day of his presidency!!

Romneycare was Mittens small mistake..youthful indiscretion if you will!

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I trust Mitt to tell me the truth exactly as much as I trust Obama to tell me the truth. That is to say, not at all.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Romney is not going to run..He has already said this..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Ahem…

I trust Mitt to tell me the truth exactly as much as I trust Obama to tell me the truth. That is to say, not at all.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Romney is not going to run..He has already said this..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Must have been a Typo or a Speako!! Just like his trusted adviser Jon Gruber. LOL!

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 11:02 PM

What it says is that anyone with half a brain who had been watching the first term of the Obama administration knew exactly what was bound to occur under his “leadership.” It doesn’t make Romney a savant in that regard, just the guy fortunate enough to get past the GOP primary as the conservative base (as usual) split itself.

Aizen on August 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM

If we really wanted to run an “I told you so” campaign, then there is a VP candidate from 2008 who deserves more attention than Mitt.

nobar on August 9, 2014 at 11:03 PM

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Romney just doesn’t have the “it” (non personable)..He gets that..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:05 PM

If we really wanted to run an “I told you so” campaign, then there is a VP candidate from 2008 who deserves more attention than Mitt.

nobar on August 9, 2014 at 11:03 PM

^^^This. I cannot agree more.

Sarah Palin / Mo Brooks 2016 – The Great White Hope and the Saviors of White People from the Great Oppression White People face everyday in this US of A.

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I think I stepped in something. Has Ned been commenting here again?

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Well, go outside and wipe it on the grass before it stinks up the place.

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Wow, Ned’s a bigot. Big shock there.

CurtZHP on August 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Romney just doesn’t have the “it” (non personable)..He gets that..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:05 PM

What Romney does have is a picture of Ted Kennedy smiling over his shoulder and a long history of working with Jon Gruber to concoct a “health care reform” scheme the envy of today’s top White House staffers. That’s the real deal breaker, and anyone with with a smidgen of honesty will admit it.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I think Romney would have done a good job as president imho..:)

PS..Becoming Governor in Mass as a Republican says a lot..imho..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Ned, your head is needed over there.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:16 PM

What Romney does have is a picture of Ted Kennedy smiling over his shoulder and a long history of working with Jon Gruber to concoct a “health care reform” scheme the envy of today’s top White House staffers. That’s the real deal breaker, and anyone with with a smidgen of honesty will admit it.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Thank you for your honesty. Not many here are willing to admit what yo said above.

Ned Pepper on August 9, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I think Romney would have done a good job as president imho..:)

PS..Becoming Governor in Mass as a Republican says a lot..imho..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Spare me. He was governor in Mass-uh-chew-sits precisely because he was pals with Teddy Kennedy and Jon Gruber. He’d have done a good job as president only if by “good job,” you mean he’d have been more subtle about using the machinery of government to rob us of our freedom.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Romney certainly wouldn’t lose any states that he won in 2012. He might win VA with their new strict voter ID laws. He needs to gain strength in the rust belt. He needs to win his home state of Michgan, Ohio and Wisconsin. If the polls show weakness in the rust belt, I doubt Romney will run.

edrebber on August 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Politicians are not your friends. And neither is Lucky Ned Pepper.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:38 PM

gryphon202 on August 9, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Teddy and John could only vote once..:):)

PS..Like I said..Romney is not going to run..Most folks get that..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Only a lying, dishonest , mentally challenged person ( read DemocRAT) would try to make the case that Maobama was the right choice in 2012- and was more qualified to execute the Leadership required from the WH than Romney was.
Romney was then, and is the only choice now to fight the leftist machine.
But he would be smart to pass……..the Media machine which establishes the reality is going to TRIPLE DOWN on Madame Cankles for the first Woman Prezzie evah – no qualifications required.
Indeed this is a train wreck – but no one will be able to stop it from happening.
No one.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:07 AM

Only a lying, dishonest , mentally challenged person ( read DemocRAT) would try to make the case that Maobama was the right choice in 2012- and was more qualified to execute the Leadership required from the WH than Romney was.
Romney was then, and is the only choice now to fight the leftist machine.
But he would be smart to pass……..the Media machine which establishes the reality is going to TRIPLE DOWN on Madame Cankles for the first Woman Prezzie evah – no qualifications required.
Indeed this is a train wreck – but no one will be able to stop it from happening.
No one.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:07 AM

STRAW MAN ALERT.

I never claimed, nor will I ever, that Obama is any better than Romney. But if you think I am about to just ignore the stark reality of Jon Gruber-esque health care reform in Mass-uh-chew-sits as it relates to Obamacare, you can take a long walk off a short pier.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Teddy and John could only vote once..:):)

PS..Like I said..Romney is not going to run..Most folks get that..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:41 PM

I’d be surprised if he did. But that’s not germane to the discussion here. Only time will ultimately tell if he does or not, and I think the thrust of the discussion is if Romney should run, and why or why not.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:12 AM

Teddy and John could only vote once..:):)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Again, spare me. The way they effed things up in Mass-uh-chew-sits had absolutely nothing to do with the citizens’ ballot box.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:13 AM

Still waiting for someone somewhere to propose a more capable, more qualified candidate. So far here isn’t one.

I can think of a few dozen.

ddrintn on August 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM

.

Yeah sure, a few dozen. (Herb Cain on that list?)
You’ ve been saying that for two years, and oddly enough- have no one, no name to put up there— Then OR now…… Just your usual dream candidate talk- a candididate who does not exist in the real world.
.
The media will shred anyone going up against Cankles- there is no one with enough of a profile to survive that- it’s only about the house and Senate now.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:24 AM

I think the thrust of the discussion is if Romney should run, and why or why not.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:12 AM

I’m sorry..I thought the thread was about the draft movement..I am not into “hijacking” a thread to run down a person..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2014 at 12:34 AM

With such strong support of Republicans like all these commenters around me, how can Romney lose? *sarcasm* Looks like 8 more years of rabid Democrat; thanks guys.

Dr B on August 10, 2014 at 12:35 AM

I’m sorry..I thought the thread was about the draft movement..I am not into “hijacking” a thread to run down a person..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2014 at 12:34 AM

The draft Romney movement clearly thinks he should. I don’t know why they would exist if they thought he would. But I’ll be the first to admit that I’m seeing this thread, as well as the current political scene, through a very specific set of biases.

Still waiting for someone somewhere to propose a more capable, more qualified candidate. So far here isn’t one.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:24 AM

SMoD/Palin ’16. I think it’s cute that you think politicians will fix what politicians broke. Wrong, but cute.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:41 AM

I never claimed, nor will I ever, that Obama is any better than Romney. But if you think I am about to just ignore the stark reality of Jon Gruber-esque health care reform in Mass-uh-chew-sits as it relates to Obamacare, you can take a long walk off a short pier.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:10 AM

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You’d be surprised how many people DO NOT give a rats Azz about anything concerned with the Commonwealth Communism of Massachusetts!
So Romney was Trojan horse health care candidate for you? Obamacare wasn’t already in motion in 2012? Get a grip…..your dishonest tactics are no different than the moronic leftists.
But you WOULD RATHER succumb to Chicago Jesus than violating your values with someone like a Romney. So you really can’t be objective now, can you?
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So what if he didn’t pay any taxes, or killed that lady with cancer or is rich….he WAS all there was for 2012.
And the ONLY STRAW IN THAT, IS BETWEEN YOUR EARS.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:44 AM

They are no different from the Palinistas that tried this in 2012..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2014 at 12:50 AM

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Good luck with that..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2014 at 12:52 AM

You’d be surprised how many people DO NOT give a rats Azz about anything concerned with the Commonwealth Communism of Massachusetts!

Enough people gave a shit about mass-uh-chew-sits for it to hurt Romney. Just because the media ignores it doesn’t make it any less true or relevant.

So Romney was Trojan horse health care candidate for you? Obamacare wasn’t already in motion in 2012? Get a grip…..your dishonest tactics are no different than the moronic leftists.
But you WOULD RATHER succumb to Chicago Jesus than violating your values with someone like a Romney. So you really can’t be objective now, can you?

I can’t be objective? I’m not the manure-for-brains here making an argumentum-ad-assertum that Romneycare didn’t matter. Your only argument for Romney, and by extension the Republican Party, is that they’re not Democrats.

So what if he didn’t pay any taxes, or killed that lady with cancer or is rich….he WAS all there was for 2012.
And the ONLY STRAW IN THAT, IS BETWEEN YOUR EARS.

FlaMurph on August 10, 2014 at 12:44 AM

I’d almost feel sorry for you guys if the “we must vote or else” crowd didn’t consist of so many a$$holes and pu$$ies. But I’m through playing by your rules of so-called “civic engagement.” When 2016 rolls around and voter turnout is at a 40 year low, perhaps then you’ll understand that in 2014 we were LONG past the point where our votes ceased to matter.

And Murph? You’re not doing yourself any favors with spittle-flecked typ-o laced rants.

gryphon202 on August 10, 2014 at 12:52 AM

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