Feinstein: We’re going to need more than a few airstrikes on ISIS

posted at 11:31 am on August 9, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

How has Barack Obama’s reactive strategy to the sweep of the Islamic State across Iraq been received so far in Washington? Not well, as critics arose across the partisan spectrum. “It takes an army to defeat an army,” Senator Dianne Feinstein said yesterday in regard to the threat ISIS now poses to the region — and the US:

Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein warned Friday of the risk that the insurgent group ISIL could be preparing fighters to attack American and European targets.

“It has become clear that ISIL is recruiting fighters in Western countries, training them to fight its battles in the Middle East and possibly returning them to European and American cities to attack us in our backyard,” the California Democrat said in a statement backing military action authorized by President Barack Obama. “We simply cannot allow this to happen.”

Feinstein called for a broader military campaign against ISIL, not just the targeted missions authorized by the president.

“It takes an army to defeat an army, and I believe that we either confront ISIL now or we will be forced to deal with an even stronger enemy in the future. Inaction is no longer an option. I support actions by the administration to coordinate efforts with Iraq and other allies to use our military strength and targeting expertise to the fullest extent possible,” Feinstein said.

That’s a sharp rebuke to Obama, who has tried to walk a tightrope between his claims of victory in Iraq and the acute need to stop the genocide of Yazidis. Obama spoke earlier today before flying off to his vacation on Marine One reinforcing his remarks on Thursday, promising nothing new. “Once again, America is proud to work” with our allies, Obama insisted, but announced no new efforts on their part other than diplomatic expressions of support. The only call Obama made was for Iraqis to unite, claiming again that “only Iraqis” can secure Iraq. Feinstein very obviously does not want to sit idly by while waiting for Iraqis to wipe out ISIS (or ISIL) in order to remove the threat to American national security.

Neither does Sen. Marco Rubio, her colleague across the aisle:

But America’s security interests extend well beyond the fate of Iraq’s religious minorities. Because ISIS, with thousands of foreign fighters, many of them from the West, will not rest once it has taken Erbil or Baghdad. Its expansionist ideology will lead it to attack U.S. allies in the region and eventually Europe and the United States.

We have seen time and again in recent decades that terrorist groups, once established, use safe havens to launch attacks on the United States and our interests. We ignore this history at our own peril.

Instead of confronting this challenge head on, President Obama has until now avoided taking decisive action. He has let the civil war in Syria simmer for years, creating the space for this jihadist threat to grow and letting instability spread to Syria’s neighbors. Even after ISIS captured Iraq’s second largest city, Mosul, in June, the President was hesitant in his response, sending several hundred military advisors but not confronting ISIS directly even as it made military gains. Now, we are rightfully providing food and water to people who face slaughter from extremists who have pledged to kill them. …

ISIS’s continued rise is not just a problem for Iraq or its neighbors. If we do not continue to take decisive action against ISIS now, it will be not just Iraqis or Syrians who continue to suffer, it will likely be Americans, as a result of a terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland or on our personnel overseas. America was faced with the same choice President Clinton faced in the 1990s during the emergence of al Qaeda: take action now, or we will be forced to take action in the future.

It is time to begin reversing this unprecedented tide of jihadist victories. America’s security and the safety of the American people are at stake.

For that matter, so does the Washington Post editorial board. Their editorial scolds Obama for clinging to his “minimalist and unrealistic” policies and start taking the threat seriously:

U.S. officials say that Mr. Obama has refrained from a broader campaign because he believes the Islamic State is “an Iraqi responsibility,” as Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel put it. The administration is pushing Iraq’s political factions, sharply divided along sectarian lines, to join in forming a new government; once such a government is formed, Mr. Obama said, “the United States will work with it and other countries in the region to provide increased support.”

The White House is hopeful that a new prime minister could be nominated this weekend. Even if that occurs, it will probably take Iraqis many more weeks to agree on a common political program, if they are able to do so at all. Kurds and Sunnis are demanding a major decentralization of power, and one of the “other countries” that the United States must balance is Iran, which seeks to perpetuate Shiite dominance in Baghdad. Meanwhile, as senior Kurdish leaders told the administration in a visit to Washington last month, Iraqi army and Kurdish forces probably cannot defeat the Islamic State on their own.

It’s past time for Mr. Obama to set aside a policy that is both minimalist and unrealistic. The United States should offer sustained military support to friendly forces that fight the Islamic State, beginning with the Kurds and including moderate Syrian rebels and Iraqi Sunni tribesmen. It should seek to erode the Islamic State’s military power as much as possible with airstrikes. It should not press for a new Iraqi government unless Shiite leaders and their Iranian sponsors agree to a fundamental restructuring of power. And it should forge a political and diplomatic strategy that encompasses both Iraq and Syria and their interrelated conflicts. The primary aim should not be to minimize U.S. involvement — as Mr. Obama would have it — but to defeat the forces that are destroying the region.

Obama spent a lot of time talking about the “weaknesses” of the Iraqi government, but kept insisting that if only Baghdad would reach out to the Sunnis and Kurds, the problems would be solved. The Shi’ites, though, have been facing this existential threat for months and still aren’t cooperating, because they don’t want to give up power and think Iran will bail them out.

Obama also suggested that Iraq’s Sunni neighbors would “join the fight” against ISIS, but … why would they do that? The Saudis in particular have been attempting to push Bashar Assad out of Syria, which led to the vacuum that allowed ISIS to metastasize. Does Obama really think that the Saudis will join a military campaign against ISIS that will benefit Assad, Maliki, and Iran in the short run? Does he think the Jordanians will go to war against ISIS in western Iraq? Why would either of these nations do so when the US insists it will sit it out? The only neighboring nation that would launch military strikes against ISIS might be Israel, which this administration has spent the last several weeks attempting to hamstring while Hamas lobs missiles at civilian population centers.

No one will march into western Iraq to fight ISIS without the US leading the way … which means no one will be fighting ISIS other than the collapsing Iraqi forces for the foreseeable future, and the Kurds who are bravely attempting to protect their homeland from the barbarian horde that threatens to overrun them.

In today’s final question, Obama got challenged on whether he should have left troops in Iraq after all. Obama proceeded to offer a cynical and disingenuous exercise in buck-passing, claiming that it was all Iraq’s fault that American troops were not left in the country. Let’s recall that Obama bragged about bringing all the troops home in the 2012 election, and that it was well known that the US had a clear opening for a follow-on force. Instead, Obama and Joe Biden blew off the negotiations, refusing to even come to the phone in an attempt to salvage them. He got the short-term boost to his approval ratings that he sought at the time, and now when his approval levels are cratering, Obama claims he was helpless to do anything in the face of Iraqi intransigence. Not only will few buy that explanation, those who do will have to explain how being impotent with Maliki makes Obama a foreign-policy genius.

Well, it’s never his fault, right?


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A liberal-run war. Can’t wait.

Akzed on August 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Partition the country.
Without a strong dictator in charge this was always bound to happen at some point.

Islam is incompatible with democracy.

weedisgood on August 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Not to worry, he’ll get them back in line. I swear he has stuff on all of them.

Cindy Munford on August 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Cowboy diplomacy…

fortcoins on August 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

While Nero fiddles…Isis spreads

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

The cant we all get along approach is not working there champ

I lol at some of his responses…..hes telling the Iraqi govt what he wont do himself in this country
With our Congress

Hogwash

cmsinaz on August 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Nothing is EVER my fault!

Booooooooooooooosh!

Rovin on August 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

This entire article is totally on topic. Fu** you Republicans in DC. YOU are the scum of the Land.

That’s an unacceptable burden to impose on a free people – and, if Americans were as free as all the songs and T-shirt slogans claim, it would not even be entertained.

As I said yesterday, under the insanity of America’s hyper-regulatory tyranny, you now have to register musical instruments with the US Department of Fish & Wildlife.

And, even if you do, you still can’t drive that instrument over a US/Canadian land border.

Aside from anything else, this will kill the annual Highland Games at Loon Mountain, New Hampshire. I’m already hearing that Scots and Canadians don’t want to take the risk of losing beloved family heirlooms to the gauleiters of Customs & Border Protection.

This is how liberty dies, with a thousand cuts, day after day after day. Bill Clinton famously said, “The age of Big Government is over”. And in a sense he’s right: This is an age of small, itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny government, in which nothing is too inconsequential and trivial not to command the attention of the federal enforcers – until, cumulatively, all the itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny government adds up to the biggest government ever seen.

Where is America’s so-called party of small government on this stuff? When are the Republican Party’s leaders going to pipe up?

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

“It has become clear that ISIL is recruiting fighters in Western countries, training them to fight its battles in the Middle East and possibly returning them to European and American cities to attack us in our backyard,” the California Democrat [Feinstein] said in a statement backing military action authorized by President Barack Obama. “We simply cannot allow this to happen.”

So then, you’ll be leading the critical effort now to secure the borders, DiFi?

/Head-Desk

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Islam is incompatible with democracy.

weedisgood on August 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM

+1,000 – I see you haven’t started chooming yet – good for you!

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Ta-ta…I’m off golfing, rubes

Obama wouldn’t give a timetable for how long the U.S. military involvement would last, saying it depends on Iraqi political efforts.

He says it won’t be weeks but will take some time.

Obama also says the advance of the Islamic State forces was more rapid than anticipated.

Obama made his comments on the South Lawn of the White House Saturday, just before boarding Marine One for his summer vacation in Massachusetts.

The oaf is shocked that the IS is “more rapid”. The land/world are in the hand of an utter idiot.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

OT

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workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

It will be interesting/nauseating to see how far the media will go (hint, very) to give Obama cover with words like “Bush” and “unavoidable” and “inherited”.

MT on August 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Nope not his fault at all

Its his intelligence community’s fault according to the Cnn banner

cmsinaz on August 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Not to worry, he’ll get them back in line. I swear he has stuff on all of them.

Cindy Munford on August 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM

He’s got the IRS on it…

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Now, China, you s/b scared shitless.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

It’s about time he did something besides leading from behind. This should have been done 6 months ago.

Sabercat2 on August 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

The man who campaigned on having no troops on the ground in Iraq just told the American public, (and his fawning press), that it was not his decision to pull every American soldier from Iraqi soil.

Is the London Bridge for sale……..again?

Rovin on August 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Hmmmm, and the NSA.

Cindy Munford on August 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

MT can you imagine the outrage if Bush left for vacation at this same time?

You started bombing and now head out to play golf

cmsinaz on August 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

What is with Obama and no “boots on the ground”. Just because he promised that? What about reality, or what’s best? I had to smile when the first question at his press conference today was about timetables. I felt like yelling at the TV, “Yeah, what about a timetable! You love timetables, to signal the enemy when you’re leaving. Let’s hear your timetable!”. Maybe he’s learned something, because he didn’t mention a timetable in his answer.

LashRambo on August 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Rovin on August 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

I think he’s blaming Maliki, interesting that the “losing” side has so much say in the final negotiations isn’t it?

Cindy Munford on August 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

From Schad’s yahoo link: “Obama sharply rejected the premise that it was his decision to pull out from Iraq and said it was because Iraqis didn’t want U.S. troops there.”

What???

MT on August 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

All the souls of the dead from IS are on obama’s head and soul.

They should have been bombed when they stirred in Syria.

obama is the anti-humanitarian savage of the world.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Behold!

For on that day, the Obama led thine people off the mountaintop.

And a chorus of messengers rejoiced with great shouts, tweets and special reports. Thus the Obama was lifted by a mighty 4 winged angel.

And The Lord brought the Obama astride his winged angel forth to St Martha’s heavenly vineyard.

Ben Hur on August 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

MT

“Obama sharply rejected the premise that it was his decision to pull out from Iraq and said it was because Iraqis didn’t want U.S. troops there.”

“You lie” – the truest thing ever told about obama.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:48 AM

For a JV team IS seems to be doing pretty well.

TooTall on August 9, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Obama’s legacy will be that this Nobel Peace Prize “winner” directly or indirectly caused the deaths of more minorities than Bush.

fortcoins on August 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM

And The Lord brought the Obama astride his winged angel forth to St Martha’s heavenly vineyard.

Ben Hur on August 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

“Triple Bogey” was never mentioned in scriptures…………..

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

I tend to avoid Obama’s press conferences because they’re nothing more than campaign infomercials for himself rather than (what they should be) informative disclosure and expansion on the direction of governance of OUR government.

That said, My GOD that was awful -

First he claims that we’re helping the people of Iraq by bombing them for the defense of civil liberties around the world (or somethun…)

Then he claims that he pulled out of Iraq because he respected their sovereignity as established by the PREVIOUS Administration (It’s Bush’ fault)

Then he claims that until the Iraqi government gets its act together he’s not going to help them.

To follow on (oooh, he’s on a roll now… the bear is loose!) he claims that if had rejected said sovereignty (when he never even bothered negotiating) and the government had screwed over nearly half of its populace (Republicans, cough cough) then the US would’ve been culpable and we’d even be in a greater war!

To WIT -

He claims that the Iraqi government is completely sovereign and it’s not his place to tell them how to govern and that’s why he pulled out after the US spent countless billions and souls. But now he’s demanding the Iraqi government kowtow to his vision or he’ll let Iraq fall because it’s not HIS responsibility.

BS!

if it’s not HIS responsibility we shouldn’t even be bombing ISIS! He didn’t provide military assistance to Syria, he didn’t provide military assistance to the Ukraine and he certainly didn’t provide military assistance to our own people in Benghazi.

He KNOWS this is his fault and he KNOWS that if ISIS manages to take Iraq then next stop will be Israel.

This is a spectacular failure of foreign policy and complete ignorance of the lessons learned from WW1 and WW2 and why we have these interventionist policies to begin with.

I’ve never been more disgusted with my country.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

A liberal-run war. Can’t wait.

Akzed on August 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

JFK and LBJ and the Vietnam War.

What could go wrong?

BuckeyeSam on August 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Does Obama really think that the Saudis will join a military campaign against ISIS that will benefit Assad, Maliki, and Iran in the short run? Does he think the Jordanians will go to war against ISIS in western Iraq? Why would either of these nations do so when the US insists it will sit it out? The only neighboring nation that would launch military strikes against ISIS might be Israel, which this administration has spent the last several weeks attempting to hamstring while Hamas lobs missiles at civilian population centers.

First, obama doesn’t think. President Jarrett thinks in Islamic terms.

Second, on the Israeli take

Fortunately, progressive opinion in the west hates Jews more than it loves Christians or Yazidi or Shia or Kurds, so ISIS can get on with killing everyone they want to kill. George Packer reports in The New Yorker:

Karim couldn’t help expressing bitterness about this. “I don’t see any attention from the rest of the world,” he said. “In one day, they killed more than two thousand Yazidi in Sinjar, and the whole world says, ‘Save Gaza, save Gaza.’ “

Indeed. But you have to pick your causes. To put pressure on Netanyahu, you fly in John Kerry to bore him to death. To put pressure on ISIS would require a commitment the west is not willing to make. So Christians will vanish from the region, and the Yazidi will vanish from the world.

As much as Americans might wish it were so, this is not just a story of one bunch of obscure foreigners sticking it to another bunch of obscure foreigners. It’s also a story of a dying superpower betraying its friends in retreat:

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

if it’s not HIS responsibility we shouldn’t even be bombing ISIS! He didn’t provide military assistance to Syria, he didn’t provide military assistance to the Ukraine and he certainly didn’t provide military assistance to our own people in Benghazi.

He KNOWS this is his fault and he KNOWS that if ISIS manages to take Iraq then next stop will be Israel.

This is a spectacular failure of foreign policy and complete ignorance of the lessons learned from WW1 and WW2 and why we have these interventionist policies to begin with.

I’ve never been more disgusted with my country.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

FORE!

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Obama spent a lot of time talking about the “weaknesses” of the Iraqi government, but kept insisting that if only Baghdad would reach out to the Sunnis and Kurds, the problems would be solved.

King Putt the imperious reader is an empty headed fool who could not possible care less about anything but his own perks.

ISIS is beheading children and this jackass yells “VayCay!” and jets to the vinyard.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:48 AM

He is a liar.

dogsoldier on August 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I’m amazed that he gets the everything entirely backwards.

tomas on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Now, China, you s/b scared shitless.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Nah…The Chinese will give him a shiny new windsurfer and send him on his way…

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Wow, he said we were occupiers?

tomas on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

At least Obama will be able to keep his campaign promises in regards to Iraq.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

As much as Americans might wish it were so, this is not just a story of one bunch of obscure foreigners sticking it to another bunch of obscure foreigners. It’s also a story of a dying superpower betraying its friends in retreat:

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

That is one of the saddest statement I have ever read……I am sickened by it.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM

He got the short-term boost to his approval ratings that he sought at the time, and now when his approval levels are cratering, Obama claims he was helpless to do anything in the face of Iraqi intransigence. Not only will few buy that explanation, those who do will have to explain how being impotent with Maliki makes Obama a foreign-policy genius.

Excellent

Trolls, which rocks are you under, since two days ago? Do you fear ISIS?

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM

As much as Americans might wish it were so, this is not just a story of one bunch of obscure foreigners sticking it to another bunch of obscure foreigners. It’s also a story of a dying superpower betraying its friends in retreat:

– Mark Steyn

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

That is one of the saddest statement I have ever read……I am sickened by it.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM

It was Mark Steyn who said it. He is more American than most Americans.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

The Saudis gave Lebanon $4 Billion to fight IS in Lebanon.

I guess it depends on who is fighting IS and where to the Saudis.

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:59 AM

I would be interested in what Feinstien’s position was when 0 pulled the troops out of Iraq. These Democrats are for the war before they were against it before they were for it.

wdkeller on August 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

At least Obama will be able to keep his campaign promises in regards to Iraq.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Yea, that’s the important part walter……..his campaign…….nothing else matters.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Obama also says the advance of the Islamic State forces was more rapid than anticipated.

Obama made his comments on the South Lawn of the White House Saturday, just before boarding Marine One for his summer vacation in Massachusetts.

The oaf is shocked that the IS is “more rapid”. The land/world are in the hand of an utter idiot.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Uh… so if they had advanced slower he wouldn’t have had a problem with that? WTF is even the point of the statement? It’s like a firefighter watching a house burn and when asked why he didn’t start spraying water sooner saying “the fire burned more rapidly than I anticipated”

Da bear is loose…

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Much as I despise the bastard in chief, I kept hoping and praying up until this morning, the he’d cancel his vacation and, for once, do the country and himself proud.

Not even this was to be. It tells 1001 stories about what a deprived soul he really is.

He always feeds off of carrion, always.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

obama’s legacy will be

ISIS, and all the dead, each soul on his consciences, as they all should be.

ISIS in the West and the USA, via the open borders.

These two will conflate, soon.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Let the Iraqi’s be the ground troops. but Feinstein is correct-we either fight them now or in the future. Bomb the hell out of them.

gerrym51 on August 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Yea, that’s the important part walter……..his campaign…….nothing else matters.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Did you miss the sarcasm?

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

MT can you imagine the outrage if Bush left for vacation at this same time?

It never ceases to amaze.

MT on August 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Much as I despise the bastard in chief, I kept hoping and praying up until this morning, the he’d cancel his vacation and, for once, do the country and himself proud.

Not even this was to be. It tells 1001 stories about what a deprived soul he really is.

He always feeds off of carrion, always.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

I was hoping that he would just tire of the whole thing and just let the military do what they need to. This ass does not need to make any decisions in this war. Go off and play golf and let the people that know how to win make the decisions. But no, it’s always about him. He has the blood of many on his hands.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 11:54 AM

You’re on fire, today. I keep wanting to comment on some of your links, but you’re already ten posts ahead….

Good stuff, as always.

notropis on August 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

At least Obama will be able to keep his campaign promises in regards to Iraq.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Did you miss the sarcasm?

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Why yes, yes I did and coming from you no one really knows.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Obama proceeded to offer a cynical and disingenuous exercise in buck-passing, claiming that it was all Iraq’s fault that American troops were not left in the country.

Even assuming that the Iraqis wanted us completely gone, which was not the case, a real President would’ve told them to fvck themselves and that, given the blood and treasure we’ve invested for their freedom — without demanding anything in return, not even a drop of their precious oil — we will stay as long as we damn well please to ensure our investment was not for nothing.

No, what he have instead is a dog-eating ISIS sympathizer/appeaser.

TXUS on August 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Why yes, yes I did and coming from you no one really knows.

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Stay vigilant.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Wow, he said we were occupiers?

tomas on August 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

I didn’t think I could be more disgusted…that is until I heard him say that.

At the end, I was embarrassed for my country that this sorry excuse for a US president is so blinded by his ideology that he can’t see the forest for the trees.

CoffeeLover on August 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Obama proceeded to offer a cynical and disingenuous exercise in buck-passing, claiming that it was all Iraq’s fault that American troops were not left in the country.

He passes the buck all the time.

cat_owner on August 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

each soul on his consciences conscience

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

The “smartest person in the room”, preznit dumba$$, is too busy vacationing and trying to deconstruct the US military to worry about anything more than short term political gain. Forget about the oath he took to protect the US. When the inevitable attack in the US from ISIS occurs he will, as always, find the appropriate place for blame, but it certainly will not be himself for his cowardly failure to act.
God help us, and the innocent victims who have already suffered, and continue to suffer, and will suffer at the hands of Obamas feckless foreign policy.
We should be bombing ISIS 24/7, and arming the Kurds. The Iraqis have already proven their inability to act.

bobthm3 on August 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

W

hile Nero fiddles…Isis spreads

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Ah, yes – beheadings coming soon in a city near you!

ISIS will probably hire the Mexican drug cartels to implement Plan B soon…..

Plan A is going on schedule…..you better hope they don’t get to Plan C.

redguy on August 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Stay vigilant.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Always am….

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Obama has done nothing during his administration to make me believe that he wants anything but radical Islam to get an upper hand in world affairs.

I can’t think of one foreign policy move that Obama has made that hasn’t opened the door for radical Islam and left the rest of the world in more danger.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

You’re on fire, today. I keep wanting to comment on some of your links, but you’re already ten posts ahead….

Good stuff, as always.

notropis on August 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Thank you, notropis…if the world doesn’t wake up the black flags will fly everywhere, pretty soon.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Obama has done nothing during his administration to make me believe that he wants anything but radical Islam to get an upper hand in world affairs.

I can’t think of one foreign policy move that Obama has made that hasn’t opened the door for radical Islam and left the rest of the world in more danger.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

+ several billion

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:16 PM

And now Fareed Zakaria is flip-flopping again.

I have been cautious about urging the United States to get back into Iraq, but I believe that in the current circumstances, the Obama administration should intervene more forcefully and ambitiously, use air power, offer training support and weaponry if needed.

I think he makes these things up as he goes along.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Actually I’m not completely against Obama’s proposed defense for his actions.

If he had merely said when he pulled out of Iraq that he wanted to stay but Iraq demanded we leave (which they didn’t but that’s another issue) and we respect their sovereignty.

THEN followed up with an airlift to refugee the several thousand here and bring them to the US (y’know… like he’s claiming to do for the children coming over in droves) because Iraq is fallen. (including military support to cover their exit)

That would be a very logical and rational position and action to take. (I’m not sure I’d agree with it but it would be actual actions that match the words he’s speaking)

But he doesn’t say OR do that. He claims his leaving Iraq was a victory of US policy to ingratiate his political campaign. So now that it falls it’s not HIS fault (even though it’s a black mark on his presidency and us as a nation) but the fault of the previous administration and the stupid Iraqi people that formed that government and then goes on to say that it’s no wonder the Sunni’s support ISIS (giving them tacit approval for their actions to overthrow Iraq).

The whole humanitarian effort to at least refugee the Iraqi’s on that mountain could’ve been a giant gold star on his part to deflect from all of that (if he were playing smart and shrewd politics like he thinks he is) But he doesn’t even do THAT! Which is utter proof that he and his administration are not the humanitarians they claim to be! (Yeah I know I’m preaching to the choir here)

If I were Hillary and running for President in 2016 this would be a perfect moment to step up.
If I were Biden and running for President in 2016 this would be a perfect moment to step up.
If I were Kerry and running for President in 2016 this would be a perfect moment to step up.
If I were Elizabeth War… Ha… no that’s just silly she’d be trying to get Iraq to write laws to outlaw guns to stop ISIS’ advances… y’know… like Obama is trying to do.

It’s 2am and the phone is ringing.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I think he makes these things up as he goes along.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

He doesn’t think, he feels.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM

I think he makes these things up as he goes along.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

He hates the USA.

He, Goodwin-Kearns and Ned Pepper of HA are plagiarists extraordinaire, on top of it. That CNN rehired that creep puts mud on them.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Ah, yes – beheadings coming soon in a city near you!

ISIS will probably hire the Mexican drug cartels to implement Plan B soon…..

Plan A is going on schedule…..you better hope they don’t get to Plan C.

redguy on August 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

The Cartels have already adopted the beheading tactic to keep the citizens terrorized.

The Saudis, realize that IS is as big a threat to them as AQ…perhaps even more….But they will try and keep it region specific in terms of what is to their immediate advantage…Hence the 4 billion to Lebanon

workingclass artist on August 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Give the Kurds a neutron bomb to use against ISIS

mydh12 on August 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

2 points:

1) I don’t think Obama will take significant military action against Sunnis on the behalf of Shia’ites.

2) Feinstein, et al on the other hand, are seeing a gung-ho militarism attitude at this time as being salvation for the limp Dems in the run-up to the midterms. Hoo ah!
They will beat the war drums only until the November is safely past, and then they’ll cheerfully abandon any hapless allies we might still have in the ME.

Dolce Far Niente on August 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Malignancies like ISIS (or Obama’s disinformation formulation: ISIL) need to be expunged from the planet before they grow any more deadly.

Barack can’t fathom such a need.

Because everyone is just a disgruntled freedom fighter to him.

Hamas, Iran, the “rebels” in Syria (now known as ISIS), ad nauseam.

Squadrons of our air power should have vaporized these maniacs when they first started moving aggressively into Iraq.

But that war was technically “over” in the Obama world view, so he was trapped by his own idiot ideology.

And the earth grows more dangerous daily thanks to President Barack Hussein (translated into English as: Fatally Dithers) Obama.

profitsbeard on August 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

He may be The Messiah after all: the 12th Imam …

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Creep has no plan to beat ISIS

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

About time you showed up, Diane. We sure could have used your input to influence the jugeared jackass when he was busy making sure no residual force remained in Iraq.

Sadly, you were pretty much AWOL. So excuse me if I don’t get the warm fuzzies over you now sticking your face in a camera.

platypus on August 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Obama proceeded to offer a cynical and disingenuous exercise in buck-passing, claiming that it was all Iraq’s fault that American troops were not left in the country. Let’s recall that Obama bragged about bringing all the troops home in the 2012 election, and that it was well known that the US had a clear opening for a follow-on force. Instead, Obama and Joe Biden blew off the negotiations, refusing to even come to the phone in an attempt to salvage them.

Precisely. It was that failure to negotiate, the obvious hasty withdrawal, and the bragging afterward that gave our enemies in the world the measure of Obama’s resolve and character… and they took it.

thatsafactjack on August 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM

There is something wrong with this man. I still believe he has no soul but he is also pathological, crazy, dangerous and creepy all rolled into one.

gophergirl on August 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Stupidly, aRubio thought it was a good idea to support the FSA against Assad. Our CIA, with orders from Obama, was pumping weapons into the these questionable Sunni based groups in Syria which for the most part ended up in ISIS’s hands. So it is clear both are clueless.

People are going to have to realize a lot of Sunni Arabs support ISIS because they have the same beliefs and values. So this nonsense of an inclusive Iraq, where everyone gets a say is stupid and unworkable.

We should back the Kurdish state for the short term only because they are nationalistic right now (remember they are Sunni Muslims as well so be careful in the long run) and they appear to willing to allow the infidels under threat to escape and live with them, but anything like trying to win the hearts and minds of Sunni Arab Muslims (or Shia Muslims who are nothing but tools of the Iranian Mullahs is a no go).

The problem is, I fear, people like Rubio, McCain, etc. are still convinced that we can win hearts and minds of Sunni Muslims and another democracy project is needed to save Iraq. This kind of thinking is dangerous, just as dangerous (if not more so) than what Obama is pushing.

They don’t understand who the enemy is, what they really think, etc. ISIS is just the armed manifestation of traditional Sunni Islamic values and beliefs. Some people just cannot accept that…that a large proportion of the Sunni population there can think that way…but they do.

William Eaton on August 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM

He may be The Messiah after all: the 12th Imam …

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM

It’s a more prestigious position after the US Presidency then Secretary General of the UN after all…

C’mon, he’s already got the Nobel Peace Prize what’s he going to do now? Head up Habitat for Humanity?

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Stay vigilant.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Always am….

VegasRick on August 9, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Wish this were true of the majority of Americans. I don’t remember who said most of them are “at the mall,” but it is still true.

jazzuscounty on August 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

There is something wrong with this man. I still believe he has no soul but he is also pathological, crazy, dangerous and creepy all rolled into one.

gophergirl on August 9, 2014 at 12:26 PM

This why we like you, gophergirl. You just have such a sweet talking soft way with words. I wish, though, that you would sometime tell us how you REALLY feel. :)

platypus on August 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Honestly…

If something happens in the “homeland,” some terror strike caused by ISIS, or any other branch of radical Islam, this country is going to have a wake up call like you’ve never seen.

And I don’t mean the sort of wake up call that Americans had after 9/11. The public wasn’t that acutely aware of the possibilities that radical Islam could present.

But now we have spent over 5 years with a “commander in chief” who has drummed it into the public that these problems are not ours, that they are local and should be attended to by the host countries and that his “smart power” is the only rational and recommended option for standing up to these terrorists.

And as a little icing on the cake, he blamed Bush as the genesis of most of these problems.

If the sh*t hits the fan, the public will quickly realize that they have been had, that the government who’s job it is to protect them, has not been doing their job.

Oh… I don’t want to see this scenario happen, but I’m beginning to think that it is the only option left to wake this country up to the fact that it has been had, scammed and the ideological con artist in the White House has no clue to what he is doing.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

She’s right…but I never thought the O would do much to really damage ISIS.

Hate to say it, but these people are doomed. The best we can do for them is to deliver weapons and ammo for every man, woman and child and see if this gang thinks they’re worth the losses. Or, airlift them out of there. Hell, everyone else is coming here.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

On thehill.com leftists democrats oppose military action in Iraq.

There are a number of democrats who want to abandon Iraq to it’s fate and are against any military intervention.

No wonder Obama is angry over this event. He’s getting beaten up by both sides, all sides, for doing too much, and not doing enough. Given his inclination to do nothing, it’s a wonder he is doing anything at all.

Joseph OHenry on August 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

This why we like you, gophergirl. You just have such a sweet talking soft way with words. I wish, though, that you would sometime tell us how you REALLY feel. :)

platypus on August 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM

LOL I get in trouble for my “directness” sometimes.

I firmly believe if you shook Obama’s hand it would send shivers throughout your body and not in the tingle up your leg Chris Matthews sort of way.

gophergirl on August 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Walter it took me a while to figure you out but I think I’ve got it now.

Keep shining brother.

itsspideyman on August 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Ajacksonian, as good as always.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

a few airstrikes are half measures…they look good, but their strategic impact is minimal. Their political impact gives the faux veneer of “doing something” alas, it’s a small bore approach.

ted c on August 9, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Actually the Arab Christians and Yazidis would be useful to this country because they actually know what it is like to be a infidel living in a Islamic nation. An antidote to those who think we can win Muslim hearts and minds, and to those leftist PC losers who try to prevent Islam from being criticized.

Maybe that is why the “Progs” are not so hot to bring them into America.

William Eaton on August 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

C’mon, he’s already got the Nobel Peace Prize what’s he going to do now? Head up Habitat for Humanity?

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Heh.

I figure he’ll step up his quest to be the first person to golf in all 57 states, all the while being lauded by the LSM for his unending dedication in looking for the murderer of Nicole and Ron …

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 12:39 PM

No wonder Obama is angry over this event. He’s getting beaten up by both sides, all sides, for doing too much, and not doing enough.
Given his inclination to do nothing, it’s a wonder he is doing anything at all.

Joseph OHenry on August 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

THIS happens to all leaders!! which is precisely why he always votes ‘present’.
Can’t bear the rejection, opposition.

pambi on August 9, 2014 at 12:39 PM

a few airstrikes are half measures…they look good, but their strategic impact is minimal. Their political impact gives the faux veneer of “doing something” alas, it’s a small bore approach.

ted c on August 9, 2014 at 12:36 PM

+1

There are a seemingly infinite supply of well-deserved nicknames for Zero, but it’s hard to do worse in summing up his reign than: President Half-Measures

ShainS on August 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

I disagree. Unless it’s a nuke (and maybe even then) Obama will spin it as a domestic terrorism incident and that’s why we need get rid of the guns, pass laws to stop hate speech like talk radio that incites dissension and further control and subjugate the populace because a shackled society is a safe society.

And the sheep will eat it up. I was on another non-political forum and the subject of the TSA came up and I opined that it was high time that it was dissolved and we restore the security checkpoints to what they were pre-9/11. The uproar was amazing – people “screaming” at me for asking for the deaths of people just because I don’t “feel free” and others demanding more security so they know they’re safe when they travel.

We don’t have an independent thinking populace anymore. We have a populace that thinks they’re intelligent because an authoritarian told them they were intelligent and gave them a piece of paper that said so and only those with the piece of paper can become authoritarians. So as long as you listen and regurgitate the “smart people” talk you are smart too.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM

The revulsion and shock of the American people when they see the video’s ISIL is sending out to the world will become rage soon enough. Seeing men smiling as they saw the head of another human being off, lining people up and shooting them in a ditch, beheading children, all under a black and white flag, is something that cannot be forgotten, cannot be dismissed, because to do so is to aid and abet that ultimate evil.

When this nation moved to fight Hitler and the Nazi’s in WWII we didn’t get the images of the atrocities being committed under the swastika flag nearly as quickly as we are getting these images of the atrocities being committed by ISIL under that black and white “flag of Allah”. Millions died before we could mobilize our forces to save them in WWII. We have the opportunity to reach out and save those who would and have offered resistance to ISIL today. Further, we have the opportunity to mobilize now, to form coalitions, to stop ISIL where it stands, to prevent attacks abroad and here at home. ISIL has sworn to bring to fruition the dream of a world wide domination of ISLAM, the caliphate, and to “raise the flag of Allah over the White House.”

How can we not be enraged and hardened in our resolve to remove this absolute evil from the face of the planet?

Those who have seen these images understand this and are asking Barack Obama why he doesn’t seem to understand it, too.

thatsafactjack on August 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Dear Leader is in the Eastern White House at Martha’s Vineyard…he has his phone, his pen and his clubs. No worries…..

d1carter on August 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Obama: I’m here in a jacket but without a tie because I am about to head out on vacation. You can tell that because I am semi-casual, like we all are out on The Vineyard. But I want to assure you that this little war I am continuing will go along swimmingly in my absence. Those navy bomber pilots are not in any danger whatsoever. I’ll update you from the ice-cream parlor in a few days.

Sting on August 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

On thehill.com leftists democrats oppose military action in Iraq.

There are a number of democrats who want to abandon Iraq to it’s fate and are against any military intervention.

No wonder Obama is angry over this event. He’s getting beaten up by both sides, all sides, for doing too much, and not doing enough. Given his inclination to do nothing, it’s a wonder he is doing anything at all.

Joseph OHenry on August 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM

But he’s NOT doing anything. That’s the point.

If he followed his own kool-aid that he’s espousing he wouldn’t be intervening. I’d disagree with the policy but (as I said above) I understand the rationale and it’d be proof of real leadership. If he followed his stated values of individual rights and liberties and defending the downtrodden he’d be going in guns ablazing. Depending on what this all involves I’d probably agree with that policy but, as you point out, he’d be ticking off his pacifist liberal supporters.

To lob a few bombs from 2000 miles away isn’t leadership it’s purely to save his political hide and legacy (he thinks). And to paraphrase Bill Maher… that’s cowardly.

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Walter it took me a while to figure you out but I think I’ve got it now.

Keep shining brother.

itsspideyman on August 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Thanks. But to make it easier…

I’m a fiscal conservative, believe in small government, states rights, strong military.

I’m a social liberal. I don’t care if gays marry (and I don’t care what you want to call it), I don’t have a big problem with pot (I live in Colorado, I don’t smoke it, never really liked being mellow, I like being on edge), I think abortion is killing babies, but it’s legal, if enough people want it stopped, it will be stopped by laws. I’m a strong supporter of the arts (and I’m a part time professional stage actor, movie actor, musician, mind reader and a published playwright).

I work as a reporter for a weekly newspaper in Park County, Colorado. There is really no editorial content to the paper, it’s rather non-political. My editor is very left, she knows I lean right in a lot of areas. I cover almost all subjects, from hard news, wildfires and fire district news, the pot beat and a lot of coverage of the activities of local non-profits.

I don’t like radical on any political side, and I will push back against far-to-one-side rhetoric.

And at any given moment, something can stick in my craw and I will make a comment that no one likes and doesn’t seem to fit in with my political or personality.

I’m hard to label sometimes.

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:49 PM

BTW, how come Obama doesn’t use the same energy, slang and colloquialisms when talking to the press like he does at political campaigns?

What does that say about how he feels about his political constituency?

Skywise on August 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Especially if the terrorists come across the U.S. Mexico border.

8 weight on August 9, 2014 at 12:51 PM

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