White House: Not going to ‘decimate’ ISIS, even though they’re planning U.S. attacks

posted at 3:21 pm on August 8, 2014 by Noah Rothman

American security experts do not mince words when they talk about the threat posed by Islamic State fighters to American national security in the medium and long-term.

“This is a cauldron of future terrorist threats to the west,” CBS News National Security Analyst Juan Zarate said in June.

Former acting CIA Director Mike Morell agreed. “One is to set up that caliphate and, it’s not just in Iraq and in Syria,” he said of ISIS’s near-term objectives. “Their second goal then is to use that as a safe haven to attack the United States.”

That threat ISIS poses to American interests has not dissipated in the ensuing weeks.

“Let’s be clear here: ISIS does not just threaten the region, it also threatens the U.S.,” CNN reporter Jim Sciutto, citing American security officials, said on Thursday. “We know that ISIS is planning and aspires to carry out attacks on the U.S. homeland.”

“I understand that ISIS can’t today perhaps launch terror attacks against the United States – key difference from al-Qaeda,” Fox News Channel’s Ed Henry observed on Friday during the daily press briefing in the White House. “Secretary of State John Kerry, short time ago in Afghanistan, had a news conference he was saying that the president believes ISIS is a threat in the region and could be a long-term threat to U.S. security.”

He noted that the White House’s strategy to neutralize the Islamic State threat seems to be to provide the Iraqi government with military aid and hope for the best. “Why is the goal not to defeat and decimate them?” Henry asked White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest on Friday.

Earnest inexplicably answered that a political solution in Baghdad – one that could “unify the country” – had to be achieved before ISIS could be successfully confronted by any group, Iraq or the U.S., militarily.

“That is the key to defeating the threat and reducing the potential that ISIL can’t attack the United States are allies in that region but eventually around the globe,” Earnest said. .

A political reconciliation can only be achieved when both combatants believe they have exhausted their military options. None of the parties engaged in combat in Iraq appear to be there yet.

In an extemporaneous moment at a press conference last week, while he said that the regional threat posed by ISIS is immediate, the threat they represent to the United States is purely “tangential.” While the president’s advisors may believe that ISIS presents a pressing threat to national security, the president himself may not fully agree.


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Obama’s response to ISIS threats? “Hey bro, if you are gonna bomb the US, do it in a red state, ok? and don’t harm my golf course!”

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama, great war leader. We aren’t going to even try to beat the enemy.

George S. Patton is spinning in his grave.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Wow!

bigGwillie on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Obama’s response to ISIS threats? “Hey bro, if you are gonna bomb the US, do it in a red state, ok? and don’t harm my golf course!”

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Obama would be ecstatic if the muslims destroyed Texas.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Well, of course not. Obama and ISIS have the same goals. Destroy the USA. Why would he stop that.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

While the president’s advisors may believe that ISIS presents a pressing threat to national security, the president himself may not fully agree.

I do not believe he doesn’t agree. I fully believe he does not give a damn.

ladyingray on August 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

The only thing that obama plans to decimate is those ground hogs that are messing with handicap on the golf course

ConservativePartyNow on August 8, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Dun gotta organize that community to do dat deciminatin’, y’see.

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

“One is to set up that caliphate and, it’s not just in Iraq and in Syria,” he said of ISIS’s near-term objectives. “Their second goal then is to use that as a safe haven to attack the United States.

THIS is the reason we still have enhanced neutron devices. Leave the dams and infrastructures intact, fry the ISIS.

partsnlabor on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

I’ve got a better idea.

Let’s decimate ISIS.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 29s

MORE: The spokesman for Iraq’s human rights ministry says some of the women are being held in schools in Mosul: http://apne.ws/1uwpDGL
=========

Iraq official: Militants hold 100s of Yazidi women
By SAMEER N. YACOUB
— Aug. 8, 2014 3:06 PM EDT
***************************

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/iraq-official-militants-hold-100s-yazidi-women

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:27 PM

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Hopey has ZERO Experience!!

And,..as a Community Sh*t-Distruber Organizer,
he never had to deal with Head Cutters!!!

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

What’s the difference between the Boy Scouts and the US government?The Boy Scouts have adult leadership.

docflash on August 8, 2014 at 3:32 PM

What a chicken schitt cowardly leader. I guess those Yazidi women are not close enough to the ages of Malia and Sasha for him to identify what torments they are and will endure at the hands of barbaric bullies and criminals.
.
Decimation is too good for ISIL (ISIS) – they need annihilation.

ExpressoBold on August 8, 2014 at 3:32 PM

While the president’s advisors may believe that ISIS presents a pressing threat to national security, the president himself may not fully agree.

I do not believe he doesn’t agree. I fully believe he does not give a damn.

ladyingray on August 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Not only does he not likely give a damn, based on his background and those he associated with / associates with, he likely believes any attack on the US would be deserved based on our past history and actions.

I shudder thinking that we’re stuck with this feckless and naive sociopath until Noon ET January 20, 2017.

Athos on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Ron Paul warned us about this.
Blame Bush.
Saddam would have taken care of this

weedisgood on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

George S. Patton is spinning in his grave.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Along with tens of thousands of veterans who willing gave their lives for liberty. And the bottom-feeding cesspool dwellers who made the current administration possible don’t have a clue.

oldleprechaun on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Erbil, Arbil, IQ
27s
Report: US officials say military warplanes launched another round of airstrikes against Islamic State targets in Iraq – @NBCNews
End of alert

https://twitter.com/NBCNews

NBC News @NBCNews · 3m

Second Strike: U.S. Navy planes drop more bombs on ISIS forces http://nbcnews.to/X72gJ7

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/497826951445241856/photo/1

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

I’ve got a better idea.

Let’s decimate ISIS.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Why only 10% ?

Perhaps “obliterate” might be better.

gh on August 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Earnest inexplicably answered that a political solution in Baghdad – one that could “unify the country” – had to be achieved before ISIS could be successfully confronted by any group, Iraq or the U.S., militarily.

Yeah, that’s what ISIS wants..seats in the Iraqi Council of Representatives.

I mean, gee…once they get that I’m sure they’ll peacefully lay down their weapons.

What kind of effing idiots are running this country?

HumpBot Salvation on August 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Hopey is:

MIA

AWOL

Dereliction of Duty

On Vacation

Golfing

FundRaising

Burger Eating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM

These two 500 lb bombs just dropped might be the extent of the action. Evidently no military aid to the Kurds and no sustained bombing. I wonder does the military have to get permission from the white house for each specific target they bomb? What I really hope doesn’t happen is the Obama Administration gives a specific date when we are going to stop bombing. Perhaps the military might be required to drop leaflets prior to each strike. Maybe UN approval for each strike.

mike3121 on August 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM

but to they really mean “decimate” as it is correctly defined (kill 1 in 10)? or are they just spewing the usual, impressive sounding doublespeak?

1 in 10 wouldn’t be bad …

WaldoTJ on August 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

NBC News @NBCNews · 3m

Second Strike: U.S. Navy planes drop more bombs on ISIS forces http://nbcnews.to/X72gJ7

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/497826951445241856/photo/1

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

GO! GO! GO! MORE!!!

otlset on August 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

We shouldn’t decimate ISIS. We need to kill them all, not just 1 in 10 of them.

Azath on August 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

When you elect a basement marxist who has no experience, no leadership, no fortitude, no class, whose entire philosophy of foreign policy is a one-time rock concert filled with frothy platitudes, and who commands as much respect on the world stage as some third-world dictator’s valet, then this is what you get.

How’s that Spine of Steel working out these days, Biden, you horse’s ass?

somewhatconcerned on August 8, 2014 at 3:41 PM

“That is the key to defeating the threat and reducing the potential that ISIL can’t attack the United States are allies in that region but eventually around the globe,” Earnest said.

First, that is not the way at all. Those psychos only know force and blood, and Iraq does not have the training, troops, or balls to fight this disease. If we don’t help them now, it will come back to haunt us. All on Jugears tab.

And second, we won’t have any allies left in the region if we don’t do something now. They will not go along with anything we want in the future. They have long memories in the region. Just look at how long the Shiites and the Sunnis have been fighting.

Just amazing…

Patriot Vet on August 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Good thing all those captains and majors got pink slips.

Akzed on August 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Them’s fightin’ words!

Stoic Patriot on August 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

The U.S. gambled on local militias to keep ISIS in check. The president’s authorization of airstrikes is an admission that bet didn’t pay off.

Friday morning, with a humanitarian mission already underway, the United States began airstrikes on ISIS in northern Iraq. What had been the U.S. policy—to rely on local forces to contain ISIS while waiting for a new Iraqi government to reach a political solution—is finished. The new policy is still taking shape, but it may eventually lead to more involvement from the special operations troops who have been in Iraq for weeks.

Schadenfreude on August 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Ron Paul warned us about this.
Blame Bush.
Saddam would have taken care of this

weedisgood on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

No, blame Obama. This would never have happened if Obama hadn’t pulled out all the troops out of Iraq without even leaving a small peacekeeping force behind, and it wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t armed ISIS to the teeth when they were fighting the Assad government.

The Obama administration absolutely caused this crisis, and I consider it a minor miracle that he even intervened enough to save the Yezidis from genocide.

The only way this can be attributed to Bush is that he failed to foresee the Democrats pulling all troops out of the region, and arming Islamic insurgents, all so they could “prove” Bush’s foreign policy had “failed” (by making sure it failed).

Doomberg on August 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Ron Paul warned us about this.
Blame Bush.
Saddam would have taken care of this

weedisgood on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

And here Class, we have an exmaple of why our nation is
in the shape it’s in….see, in today’s America, if possible
ALWAYS lay the blame elsewhere…NEVER accept the responsibilities
that Life presents…

Let’s look back in History at the leaders from other Eras,
and their passing the buck, shall we.

Churchill, circa 1940 – “London wouldn’t be getting bombed
if it weren’t for those cowards across the Channel!!”

Roosevelt, December 8th, 1941 – “Yesterday, a day that wouldn’t
live in infamy, if Hoover had appeased those Nips”

Patton, June, 1944 – “Push to the Rhine? naw, me and the 7th Army
are takin the Summer off”

ToddPA on August 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

I notice all the liberals here cheering and defending their GodKing, Barack, He who promised that the World was now saved upon His election.

Now he can’t even lift his finger to save them.

The only consolation? When ISIS destroys an American city, most of the dead will be Obama voters. Wonder if they will be regretting their vote as ISIS people chop their heads off?

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Earnest inexplicably answered that a political solution in Baghdad – one that could “unify the country” – had to be achieved before ISIS could be successfully confronted by any group, Iraq or the U.S., militarily.

Which makes no sense. They are our enemy and if we just slap them around a little, but leave them intact, the end result is very predictable.

Southernblogger on August 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM

ToddPA on August 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Seriously, don’t waste your time….That one has long since taken up residence on the Island of Brain Dead Dumb F$(k.

BigWyo on August 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

There’s that old song that goes: “when that problem comes along you must whip it, whip it good.” Just substitute “decimate” for whip.

anotherJoe on August 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

In an extemporaneous moment at a press conference last week, while he said that the regional threat posed by ISIS is immediate, the threat they represent to the United States is purely “tangential.”

Tangential, in this case, means that it isn’t going to affect the royal family going on vacation tomorrow. Snuggles, the Yeti, and their vile brats will be boarding a giant plane and stealing millions of taxpayer dollars for their personal pleasure.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM

I’ve got a better idea.

Let’s decimate ISIS.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Why only 10% ?

Perhaps “obliterate” might be better.

gh on August 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Exactly, why kill 1 in 10 ..

The showdown between ISLAM (all of them) and the rest of us is coming rapidly. Islam will give you 3 choices: tax, die or convert — Islamics who leave their “religion” are sentenced to death. Kinda has a “chilling effect” on religion shopping. It is going to be interesting to see how long it takes for people to realize that this is a binary choice.

CrazyGene on August 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

An ISIS attack in the USA is just what the sociopath Marxist WH occupier needs to justify marshal law and suspend elections.

bgibbs1000 on August 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 48s

BREAKING: US official: US launches second round of airstrikes on targets near Irbil, Iraq

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Not even going to decimate them?

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Obama, the America-hating, Jew-hating, Pro-Hamas, Pro-Hezbolhoweveryouspellit, Pro-Al Qaeda, Pro-Mooslim Brotherhood, Pro-ISIS.

Given that the War on Terror is still alive and well with those azzholes that did 9/11, when does Obama’s refusal to fight for America in said war, and his blatant inaction, constitute TREASON?

Just curious, since the DimocRats are so hell bent on his impeachment and all.

Meople on August 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Wonder if they will be regretting their vote as ISIS people chop their heads off?

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

An Obama voter would simply continue to live on as before!!

This is why!!

Deano1952 on August 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Geniuses at work. Both Bush and Obama. Hell, Bush 41 and Clinton helped things along, too, with their particular idiocies.

The Sunni tribal leaders hated the terrorists. So did the Sunni Ba’athists. So did the Sunni Republican Guard. Hated them. That’s why Petraeus got them on board to wipe out al Qaeda during the Surge. Petraeus gave them concessions that amounted to self rule.

Maliki, another genius, took those concessions away and played Get Even with the Sunnis.

So here we are. Now the tribal leaders, the Ba’athists and the Republican Guard are all fighting for ISIL. The succession of Brilliant Leaders we’ve elected have managed to deeply radicalize the most militarily competent force in the region.

Oopsy.

fadetogray on August 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM

An ISIS attack in the USA is just what the sociopath Marxist WH occupier needs to justify marshal law and suspend elections.

bgibbs1000 on August 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Since an ISIS attack would be an attack from outside the U.S. he would have no grounds to do any of that.

That might not stop him from trying, but he’d likely fail.

Meople on August 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Obama would be ecstatic if the muslims destroyed Texas.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Texas is well armed and willing to defend herself. Bring it.

DAT60A3 on August 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

White House: Not going to ‘decimate’ ISIS, even though they’re planning U.S. attacks

Then it will be a failure.
Play to win, or don’t bother playing.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Earnest inexplicably answered that a political solution in Baghdad – one that could “unify the country” – had to be achieved before ISIS could be successfully confronted by any group, Iraq or the U.S., militarily.

Which makes no sense. They are our enemy and if we just slap them around a little, but leave them intact, the end result is very predictable.

Southernblogger on August 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Of course it makes no sense. It’s not intended to make sense.

We’re dealing with Josh Earnest here, someone fundamentally incapable of ever dazzling with brilliance, so he falls back to what he does best…baffles with bullsh*t.

Oh, and the only ‘political solution’ the Administration will work towards would be trying to figure out a way to appease ISIS.

Athos on August 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Man they talk out both sides of their mouths they are blowing them up and saying we aren’t blowing them up…

sorrowen on August 8, 2014 at 3:59 PM

https://twitter.com/BramJanssen

Bram Janssen @BramJanssen · 47m

Spoke to the Iraqi deputy PM before air strikes. Talking about Obama’s speech he said

he hoped it wasn’t just a message,

action needed.

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:00 PM

To decimate means “one in ten” from the Roman days.
How about 9 in 10 to set them back a few years.

The big question is – who is funding them ?
How about -
Middleast petro dollars coming from US consumers?
Meanwhile the XL pipline would reduce our dependance on Muslim oil, but that’s not gonna happen.

And Barry (Captain Chaos) fiddles, as Rome burns.

esblowfeld on August 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM

SMH

Next attack on us….blame bush or obama?

I know who the lsm will blame

cmsinaz on August 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM

RE:

Obama would be ecstatic if the muslims destroyed Texas.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Siting in the heart of Military City U.S.A., I can honestly say that most of us here would be equally ecstatic if they tried…
As Pedro Cerrano once said ” bring that shiite to me!”

Von Kleist on August 8, 2014 at 4:03 PM

https://twitter.com/Reuters

Reuters Top News @Reuters · 59s

The U.S. air strikes included a drone strike on a mortar position and a strike by fighter jets on Islamic State convoy near Arbil: Pentagon

Reuters Top News @Reuters · 54s

U.S. military conducted two additional air strikes in Iraq on Islamic State targets on Friday: Pentagon. http://reut.rs/1uwvjk1

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Iraq is screwed by a perfect convergence of incompetence in Barry and Maliki. We elected a dumbass leader, and so did Iraq. What are the odds?

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Perhaps “obliterate” might be better.

gh on August 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Much better verb choice. Annihilate is a good one, too.

John the Libertarian on August 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

If ISIS is actually a reconstituted Saddamite Sunni Army attempting to reconquer Iraq, and not just a handful of homicidal ultra-jihadis who lucked into some war booty, our choice is whether to allow the bloodletting to resolve itself “naturally” or to participate actively in the partition of the country, at least for the benefit of the Kurds.

There is no way Iraq will be reconstituted other than either with massive American military manpower or by virtue of a sanguinary Sunni victory that might in turn unleash another Iran-Iraq war.

I think our immediate priority should thus be to help the Kurds, who at least have the potential to be allies. I might feel differently if I were convinced ISIS were just a pseudo-religious torture gang on a temporary winning streak.

Don’t forget that whatever else Saddam Hussein was, he was essentially a secularist. If his former minions are into ISIS in a big way, they probably find their newfound pumped up Mahdi to be a convenient vehicle for achieving their goals. That they put up with his theocratic extravagances despite the lasting legacy of hatred shows how little they care for anything less than conquest.

Seth Halpern on August 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

SMH

Next attack on us….blame bush or obama?

I know who the lsm will blame

cmsinaz on August 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM

cmsinaz: Its good to see ya,..and yup,..typical:)

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

“Earnest inexplicably answered that a political solution in Baghdad – one that could “unify the country” – had to be achieved before ISIS could be successfully confronted by any group, Iraq or the U.S., militarily.”

Faculty lounge foreign policy…

… and the fact that Obama armed ISIS.

This is the future Obama has created…

Islamic State jihadist announces his marriage to terrified 7-year-old in conquered city in Syria

Seven Percent Solution on August 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Did Obama make any statement about children and Christians being butchered yesterday? He seems to have no soul, he can watch thousands perish here and not blink an eye. I wonder why the civilian deaths in Gaza bothered him so much the hypocritical ass.

garydt on August 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

The only consolation? When ISIS destroys an American city, most of the dead will be Obama voters. Wonder if they will be regretting their vote as ISIS people chop their heads off?

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

How can you guarantee that?

ladyingray on August 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 20s

MORE: US launches second round of airstrikes against Islamic State targets near Irbil, American officials say http://apne.ws/V4QtJJ

US officials: New round of airstrikes near Irbil
By LOLITA C. BALDOR
— Aug. 8, 2014 3:54 PM EDT
**************************

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-officials-new-round-airstrikes-near-irbil

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Yepper canopfor

How are the munchkins?

cmsinaz on August 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Did Obama make any statement about children and Christians being butchered yesterday? He seems to have no soul, he can watch thousands perish here and not blink an eye. I wonder why the civilian deaths in Gaza bothered him so much the hypocritical ass.

garydt on August 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Have you no shame…?

… This may affect his vacation(s)!

Seven Percent Solution on August 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

This is the future Obama has created…

Islamic State jihadist announces his marriage to terrified 7-year-old in conquered city in Syria
Seven Percent Solution on August 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Oh God. We must fight and KILL these depraved running dogs!!!

otlset on August 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM

The world is on fire, thanks to Obysmal.

David Horowitz spells out how this administration’s polices are not those of a normal presidency. Obysmal has engendered and fanned the flames of chaos.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384963/obamas-treachery-and-republican-silence-david-horowitz

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

This feckless, muslim loving administration is talking about re-arming and coordinating with the cowardly Iraqi Army, AGAIN, but refuses to arm and coordinate with the hard fighting, non-extreme Peshmerga.

Pragmatically, the only explanation is that the Dog Eater is looking for a counter-intuitive time, blood and money waster, to buy time for ISSL. Outrage and morality has nothing to do with it, progressives don’t share that trait with normal humans.

AppraisHer on August 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

An ISIS attack in the USA is just what the sociopath Marxist WH occupier needs to justify marshal law and suspend elections.

bgibbs1000 on August 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Since an ISIS attack would be an attack from outside the U.S. he would have no grounds to do any of that.

That might not stop him from trying, but he’d likely fail.

Meople on August 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM

The GOP already lacks the balls to impeach him or is in bed with the dems, the latter being more probable, so what makes you or anyone else think if he tried it he wouldn’t get away with it?

bgibbs1000 on August 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

LadyInGray: Urban voters are Obama voters, so any large city consists mostly of Obama voters. Cities are also the primary target. Set off 5000 lb bombs in my county? You might wreck a few houses. Set them off in New York? Bring down a skyscraper.

Has Obama EVER said anything about dead Christians or Jews? I know he’s all in on protesting on behalf of Gazans.

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Zeke MillerVerified account ‏@ZekeJMiller

.@PentagonPresSec on latest strikes on ISIL pic.twitter.com/fjvX7qDkMW

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/497834226025496576/photo/1

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Decimating is too good for them.

They need more than the modern ‘whiff of grapeshot’ although a whiff of napalm ought to start getting the idea across.

You cannot win a ground conflict from the air alone: you need ground forces. I suggest arming the Kurds is a great start. A few special forces spotters would be a nice addition. Some Abrams tanks… well a bit of logistical problems but we did let the Iraqi government buy a lot of those suckers, so what is up with that? Lack of leadership, maybe?

Yeah, tell me about it. Give those to the Kurds, they will sure as hell lead with them if the rest of Iraq can’t figure it out.

ajacksonian on August 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Former acting CIA Director Mike Morell agreed. “One is to set up that caliphate and, it’s not just in Iraq and in Syria,” he said of ISIS’s near-term objectives. “Their second goal then is to use that as a safe haven to attack the United States.”

Gee, no kidding. Where were these guys in 2012 when Barry said “well this place looks like it’s in pretty good shape now, we’re out of here”?

None of them saw this coming? Not one? No one spoke up?

Actually I think many of them probably did. The Pentagon really, really didn’t want us to leave without a SOFA.

But Obama had an election to win, and Republicans to demagogue.

Missy on August 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

gh on August 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

I see what you did there.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Did Obama make any statement about children and Christians being butchered yesterday? He seems to have no soul, he can watch thousands perish here and not blink an eye. I wonder why the civilian deaths in Gaza bothered him so much the hypocritical ass.

garydt on August 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Have you no shame…?

… This may affect his vacation(s)!

Seven Percent Solution on August 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The only problem he had with the “palestinians” vs the Israelis is that the Jews wouldn’t kiss his ass.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

US launches second round of airstrikes against Islamic State targets near Irbil, American officials say

canopfor on August 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I wonder what they’re going out after now. Maybe the secret bunker where Obama’s transcripts are kept.

Seriously (and I said it during Kosovo too). You can’t win this kind of conflict by a few days of bombing the hell out of a region. Airpower has its uses but dropping a couple laser-guided bombs on a single piece of artillery is not the way you are going to change what is going on in Iraq.

Obama is dithering because he doesn’t have a clue about an over-arching strategy.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

When the office buildings and the malls start blowing up, we can thank Little Zero for showing “restraint”.

I keep thinking what MacArthur said to Roosevelt when FDR wanted to fund the New Deal by obliterating the Army.

Deja BO.

formwiz on August 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Somebody tell the White House that “decimate” means only 10%

Don L on August 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM

From Daily Mail story and pics:

The blindfolds are removed and then used to tie the bodies upon two crudely assembled crosses built from what appears to be a couple of metal scaffolding poles.

Large pools of blood can be seen collecting near the wooden base of the cross.

In the background, a crowd of local men are watching from behind a low fence, some of them are taking photos or filming the executions with their mobile phones.

If Sunni extremist ISIS does this to fellow Sunnis, what the HELL will they do to infidels like me and you????

“Animals” is much too kind a description of both the beheaders AND the audience taking photos with their cell phones!

Where the HECK did we put those neutron bombs and Daisy Cutters?????

fred5678 on August 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM

You can’t win this kind of conflict by a few days of bombing the hell out of a region.

Hey Bill Clinton won his war by bombing African Aspirin factories during the “I don’t know that woman, Miss Lewinski” days.

Don L on August 8, 2014 at 4:35 PM

White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest

Is Josh Earnest worse than Jay Carney at spinning for Obama’s nonsense, or has Obama’s nonsense become more difficult to spin since Jay left?

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Patriot Vet on August 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

He’s stupidly ignoring the example Hamas is providing. These animals must all be dealt with, now or later when they are stronger.

dogsoldier on August 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Twits.

crankyoldlady on August 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

In an extemporaneous moment at a press conference last week, while he said that the regional threat posed by ISIS is immediate, the threat they represent to the United States is purely “tangential.” While the president’s advisors may believe that ISIS presents a pressing threat to national security, the president himself may not fully agree.

Well Zero is sort of right although he is still an idiot. Lets stop all the freak out here over ISIS for second and once again look at the big picture.

Lets look at some facts…

(1) China and Russia are still vastly greater threats to US national security.

(2) ISIS is entangled in a war with Iranian backed Shia Arabs and Assad. This is something the U.S. must stay out of.

(3) The threat ISIS poses to the US is the same threat all Islamist groups pose in the sense we have let a lot Muslims immigrate into the US since 1990s, which has only accelerated in the Bush / Obama years. We have not properly vetted these people, because it would be not PC to ask them questions about their values and ideals, and their feeling about the Islamic religion and infidels.

Some of the these folks came here as refugees from Iraq, Somalia, and Afghanistan which we picked up when our military was there. This is sort of ironic because the whole point was to fight them over there, not bring them home with us. At some point some of these Muslims decide to become more true to their faith…which means troubles for infidel Americans.

So fighting ISIS over there will have little impact on Muslims blowing stuff up over here. However, a better job of limiting their return to America and not allowing lots of Muslims to immigrate to the U.S. in the first place will do a lot more to prevent attacks on American soil.

So if we plan to use military force to establish a new Kurdish state, and allow infidels living Iraq to escape to freedom I am all for it. That would be useful strategically to the US and it would give us a chance to bloody ISIS. However…I am not for another Iraqi nation building exercise, or helping the House of Saud stay in power again, etc.

We have to realize something, ISIS is practicing traditional Sunni Islam. They do have a fair amount support among Sunni Arab populations in Iraq, Syria, Arabia, and now it appears Lebanon. I am sure there are other places as well. There are always going to be Sunni Islamist groups like this popping up because a lot of Sunni Muslims, especially Sunni Arab muslims, are for Sharia Law. The best America can do is limit their growth around the edges, to keep them contained, and occasionally weaken them with punitive military campaigns.

Lets face it, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, the Taliban and hundreds of other Islamist groups all have the same goal as ISIS. Heck Saudi Arabia has the same goals, maybe different methods, but the same considering they helped fund ISIS along with Qatar, etc. How does Saudi Arabia treat Christians, Jews, Atheists, and other infidels? Answer: Not good…

Basically Obama’s and Bush’s strategy were both failures because neither of them ever considered that groups like ISIS have some popular support from the Sunni Arabs, and that support is much more than just being alienated by the Maliki’s government.

Remember Hitler was popular in Germany for a reason…it did not just happen by accident or simply because the German people were completely tricked. A majority knew full well where it was going and either supported it openly, or passively. Same with the Sunni Arabs in relation to groups like ISIS, Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a war of populations, of civilizations, not just a few nut groups.

William Eaton on August 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Preznit EyeWon is more charitable to rabid animal ISIS fighters than he is to Republicans. I guess he knows (R)s won’t cut off his head while his wife a daughters watch and plead for mercy, huh? He also knows Republicans won’t forcibly marry his daughters after they rape his wife many times and set her to cooking and cleaning, huh.
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In fact, “Huh?” is a great expression for the Community-Organizer-in-Chief’s awareness of the actions these nearly defenseless people will suffer at the hands of those who have benefited from Democrats. Yeah, these ISIS thugs and rapists and killers have benefited from the actions of Democrats. Be proud, scofflaws! I said it and now you can wallow in it.

ExpressoBold on August 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5umzav8s3d0xdun/2014-08-08%2013.54.05.jpg

The eyes, AND the eagle simply screams atcha, no ??

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM

A political reconciliation can only be achieved when both combatants believe they have exhausted their military options. None of the parties engaged in combat in Iraq appear to be there yet.

The idiot in chief fails to understand, or probably does not care, that ISIS does not give a damn about political reconciliation. They are out to destroy their enemies, and will not quit until they accomplish that end, or die trying.
We should definitely assist them in the “die trying”, but our cowardly preznet has political considerations of his own to consider, never mind his oath to protect the United States of America.

bobthm3 on August 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Not to worry. I’m sure our President has a plan for making the threat go away without entrenching us in another war. All he needs to do is figure out what the modern-day equivalent of Sudetenland is.

ajb3 on August 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

A political reconciliation can only be achieved when both combatants believe they have exhausted their military options. None of the parties engaged in combat in Iraq appear to be there yet.

The idiot in chief fails to understand, or probably does not care, that ISIS does not give a damn about political reconciliation. They are out to destroy their enemies, and will not quit until they accomplish that end, or die trying.
We should definitely assist them in the “die trying”, but our cowardly preznet has political considerations of his own to consider, never mind his oath to protect the United States of America.

bobthm3 on August 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM

This is a great failing of the Western Left, for some reason they will not see that some enemies do not want reconciliation. Whether it’s the ‘palestinians’ or ISIL, or the Iranians etc. They want to win and we want to talk.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM

anybody with half a brain can see what will happen down the road if ISIS continues to grow. The lesson of 911 seems to be lost on president pen and phone. He is just hoping that when they attack us here, that he won’t be president. How i despise him for the damage he is doing now and the mess that will ensue after he leaves.

warmairfan on August 8, 2014 at 5:51 PM

“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.”

- Barack Obama on ISIS

It turns out that there are quite a few Kobe Bryants on the JV team in Iraq.

Resist We Much on August 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Ron Paul warned us about this.
Blame Bush.
Saddam would have taken care of this

weedisgood on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

‘Cuz, um, like, ya know, Assad was able to ‘take care’ of ISIS in Syria or something.

Resist We Much on August 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM

“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.

And if an incompetent narcissist dons the title of president, that does not make him President.

bobthm3 on August 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Its going to take a strong Republican president to clean up the mess Obama has left America in and regain global respect.

snoozinglion on August 8, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Not going to 1/10th

Yeah, the “adults are in charge”

RushBaby on August 8, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Obama would be ecstatic if the muslims destroyed Texas.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Oh, he’ll be equally happy to have the thousands of illegal “children” do it

Siddhartha Vicious on August 9, 2014 at 7:33 AM

Carpet bomb the caliphate before it gets too big…

Fat Hubie on August 9, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Let those that threaten us enter but give us the freedom to use millions of guns to prove them wrong. Problem solved for a few decades.

mixplix on August 9, 2014 at 7:30 PM