Video: White House’s claim that Central American violence is driving border crisis challenged by … Joe Biden?

posted at 6:01 pm on August 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

I saw this yesterday at Breitbart and nearly fell off the chair. Does Diamond Joe not understand that he’s undermining Democrats’ big “refugee” talking point in saying this? The left’s messaging strategy on the border crisis, quite wisely, is to insist that kids from Honduras and Guatemala aren’t “illegal immigrants” at all. They’re “refugees.” They’re not crossing the border because mom and/or dad are already here and they want to go to American schools, they’re crossing the border because gang violence in Central America has grown so terrible that the kids have no choice but to flee. They’re in the same predicament as, say, Christians in Iraq are right now — even though federal law defines “refugee” as someone fleeing war or persecution based on identity, not gangs. That’s a smart talking point for two reasons: One, obviously, it makes the kids more sympathetic, and two, more importantly, it implies that letting them settle in the U.S. would be an extraordinary response to an extraordinary crisis. It’s not an open-ended invitation to people to cross the border illegally, it’s a limited amnesty targeting a limited population for a limited time, until gang violence starts to fall off. The more you reassure Americans that this is a carefully constrained response to a humanitarian crisis and not some free pass for any kid who wants to come, the more acceptable they’ll find it. (That’s also why all amnesties are sold as one-time, extraordinary solutions that’ll never be repeated. Until, of course, they’re repeated a decade or two later.)

So here’s Biden undermining all of that. The violence isn’t worse than it used to be, he says. It’s bad, but it’s been bad for years. What’s causing the big surge lately in illegal crossings is coyotes lying to families and telling them that if their child makes it across the border now, they’re “home free.” We can debate what the source of that lie is — I’ve got a crazy hunch I know what it is — but we don’t need to in order to toss the “refugee” argument out the window. The fact that a coyote lied to you doesn’t make you a refugee. And if you’re not a refugee than you’re subject to the same immigration laws as anyone else crossing the border illegally. Why he would take this position, I can’t begin to imagine. Maybe he’s saying that every Central American who’s entered the U.S. illegally since gang wars exploded inside their countries years ago should qualify as refugees too? That sort of undermines the whole “this is a one-time thing” appeal of the refugee argument, doesn’t it?

Or it could be that he and the White House have decided that absorbing a new population from abroad (63,000 and counting) isn’t the smart move politically right now. New from Reuters:

Seventy percent of Americans – including 86 percent of Republicans – believe undocumented immigrants threaten traditional U.S. beliefs and customs, according to the poll…

Vanderbur was among the 45 percent of people in the poll, carried out between July 15-22, who said the number of immigrants legally allowed to enter the country should be reduced.

Only 17 percent thought more legal immigrants should be allowed to come to the United States. Thirty-eight percent said the number should stay the same.

“If Obama starts using executive orders to grant citizenship or to stop deportations I think he gives Republicans a big opening,” said Jennifer Duffy, of the Cook Political Report analyst group. “It’ll be about the issue at hand, immigration, but it also feeds into this Republican narrative of overreach, of sort of abusing his power.”

Maybe that upcoming mega-amnesty, which is bound to give coyotes lots more ideas, will end up waiting for the lame-duck session.


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If nothing else, Slow Joe would have been a fun president.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Video no longer available.

Hrm… I wonder why that would be…

Oxymoron on August 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Luis Guiterrez – 2M new 18 year old Latino voters will ‘swamp’ the GOP

At least we can pseudo trust Biden. Pseudo.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 6:18 PM

aww…..hey done replaced the video with a cute lil bear…everyone’s in the political pocket..

celt on August 8, 2014 at 6:19 PM

..and made me watch a shitty beer commercial too..

celt on August 8, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Picking Joe was a cynical move.

Nice to see it’s biting them.

If nothing else, Slow Joe would have been a fun president.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 6:07 PM

He may still be.

formwiz on August 8, 2014 at 6:20 PM

C’mon, B.O. Be a sport. Step down so we can have Plugs for a couple of years of laughs.

Galtian on August 8, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Really, who’s running the AP now? Between their inexcusably poor Twitter account and their non-specific video links, you’d think Kathy Sebelius took the job after leaving HHS.

BKeyser on August 8, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Or it could be that he and the White House have decided that absorbing a new population from abroad (63,000 and counting) isn’t the smart move politically right now.

You suggest that Joke Biden is given inside information on White House strategy? There’s a howler.

More likely Joke sees cracks in Democratic demographics and he’s decided to run to the right of Barry.

Joke thinks very highly of himself and he is not going to go quietly.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Coolrepublica will be here shortly to call Joe a liar.

RickB on August 8, 2014 at 6:29 PM

I’m a 5th gen Texan who grew up Anglo in Southside San Antonio. Most of the Hispanics, then, were multi-gen Texans like me. We were all proud of our Texian heritage. Now, they’re newly arrived illegals and a mix of amnestiacs. I’ve seen the future, and it’s…

vnvet on August 8, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Video no longer available.

Hrm… I wonder why that would be…

Oxymoron on August 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM

“Gone With The Emails” ?

viking01 on August 8, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I will be the last to be critical of a cute bear video, but where is the Joe Biden video?

BigGator5 on August 8, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Looks like somebody at the Spite House forgot to give Joe a fresh box of lollipops and the latest BD volume of SpongeBob SquarePants…

CPT. Charles on August 8, 2014 at 6:44 PM

“Gone With The Emails” ?

viking01 on August 8, 2014 at 6:36 PM

When we are old, toothless and sitting in a rocking chair holding our grandchildren tight, we won’t read “Gone With The Wind”… we’ll have a new book called “Gone With The Emails… and How Americans Saved America”….

/Hey, a girl can dream, right?

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 6:45 PM

You suggest that Joke Biden is given inside information on White House strategy? There’s a howler.

Joke thinks very highly of himself and he is not going to go quietly.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 6:26 PM

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LOL

ExpressoBold on August 8, 2014 at 6:46 PM

They’re “refugees.” They’re not crossing the border because mom and/or dad are already here and they want to go to American schools, they’re crossing the border because gang violence in Central America has grown so terrible that the kids have no choice but to flee.

If these kids are fleeing violence, they are coming to the wrong country.

By placing ILLEGAL alien children with other ILLEGAL aliens, The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is placing these children in even more vulnerable situations than they likely faced at home.

Feds Placed Honduran Girl In Care Of Illegal Immigrant Sponsor Who Sexually Abused Her, Allegedly

A 42-year-old illegal immigrant from Honduras who was awarded custody of an unrelated 16-year-old Honduran girl has been accused of sexual abuse and of smuggling her into the U.S.

Pedro Lara Portillo is charged with alien smuggling and encouraging an alien to illegally enter the country, according to the Baltimore Sun.

Lara, who told authorities he has been in the U.S. illegally for seven years, also lied to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement when he said that he and the girl would have separate rooms while she lived with him, according to federal court documents.

The girl came to the U.S. in late March and spent a month in the custody of HHS, which turned her over to Lara’s care.

The agency is in charge of finding housing for the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children apprehended at the U.S. border while they await deportation proceedings to commence.

The girl told Baltimore County police in early June that she had been smuggled into the country, according to the Baltimore Sun.

Lara and the girl’s mother coordinated the plan to smuggle her from Honduras through Mexico, and the teen eventually entered the U.S. through Texas.

“Lara admitted in sum and substance that he wired money to Mexico for the purpose of having [the girl] smuggled to the United States,” Department of Homeland Security special agent Edward J. Kelly wrote in the charging documents.

According to the federal documents, Lara and the girl did not have separate rooms, contrary to assurances he made in the custody arrangement with HHS.

The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately arrest Lara after they interviewed him, though he was eventually apprehended in Tennessee.

Source: http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/04/feds-placed-honduran-girl-in-care-of-illegal-immigrant-sponsor-who-sexually-abused-her-allegedly/

Send these children and any other relatives or “sponsors,” who showed their contempt for our laws by entering our county ILLEGALLY, back to their home countries ASAP.

wren on August 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Looks like somebody at the Spite House forgot to give Joe a fresh box of lollipops and the latest BD volume of SpongeBob SquarePants…

CPT. Charles on August 8, 2014 at 6:44 PM

You know, my parents and I sat down the other night and the Biden factor came up. Consensus was that Biden is still a Patriot. My dad swears that he’s trying to get the truth out through these ‘gaffes’. I’m not so sure that my dad is right, but…

I think we could do 2 years of Biden. I don’t think we can do another 2 years with Traitor-O and his fattened Cow.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM

BigGator5 on August 8, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Come on BG… did you really want to see a vid of Slow Joe patrolling the front lawn of Number One Observatory Circle with a shotgun in his bath-robe and boxers???

CPT. Charles on August 8, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 6:45 PM

“With God as my witness I’ll never dare impeachment again…..”

“Frankly Miss Moochie I’ don’t give a damn….”

“Internal Revenue has fallen ! We must flee !!!”

viking01 on August 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM

King Barack will wait until AFTER the elections. He’s stupid, but not that stupid.

GarandFan on August 8, 2014 at 7:04 PM

This is a hangover from the Africa summit. I heard clips of him speaking saying that if 60000 kids from Latin America should be allowed in due to hardships in their countries, then surely 300,000,000 african kids should too. Only they would need to cross an ocean……

That’s all they played. I am sure the clip is out there.

can_con on August 8, 2014 at 7:05 PM

The border crisis has practically been forgotten due to all that is going on in the Middle East.

cat_owner on August 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM

The border crisis has practically been forgotten due to all that is going on in the Middle East.

cat_owner on August 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Americans are going to get more wake up calls about the border crisis during the next few weeks as the new school year begins and parents find their children sitting next to kids who only speak Mayan.

Public schools in California begin opening on August 18.

In the meantime, patriotic Americans need to keep shining a bright light on the ILLEGAL immigration issue and how it hurts American citizens and legal residents.

wren on August 8, 2014 at 7:24 PM

CPT. Charles on August 8, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Well, when you put it that way…

I guess no.

BigGator5 on August 8, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Americans are going to get more wake up calls about the border crisis during the next few weeks as the new school year begins and parents find their children sitting next to kids who only speak Mayan.

Public schools in California begin opening on August 18.

In the meantime, patriotic Americans need to keep shining a bright light on the ILLEGAL immigration issue and how it hurts American citizens and legal residents.

wren on August 8, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Yep, little Johnny is going to come home after the first day of school and tell the folks that the new guy in the desk behind him looks five years older and has tattoos on his face.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM

55% want more are the same amount of illegal immigrants to enter the country?
WTF!
Wake up People!

Privatize It on August 8, 2014 at 8:08 PM

What?

Jesus Christ. Would it kill these moronic liberals to even TRY to make sense once in a while before they make the trek to hell?

I mean, I don’t care that they burn for eternity, sooner the better, but damn, if it were me, I’d want to at least make sense before I had to shoot the tubes to hell. Really.

Diluculo on August 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

The left’s messaging strategy on the border crisis, quite wisely, is to insist that kids from Honduras and Guatemala aren’t “illegal immigrants ALIENS” at all. They’re “refugees.”

Allahpundit on August 8, 2014 at 6:01 PM

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That’s all … carry on.

listens2glenn on August 8, 2014 at 10:03 PM

If the video is still unavailable (or MH’d), you can go here:
http://youtu.be/4bw-q0Erq00

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on August 9, 2014 at 6:37 AM

of sort of abusing his power

There ain’t no sort of, Jennifer. He is.

Patriot Vet on August 9, 2014 at 7:47 AM