U.S. launches second round of airstrikes against ISIS

posted at 4:41 pm on August 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

Their artillery’s still a bit too close to Kurdistan’s capital for comfort.

19:59: Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm John Kirby confirms two additional air strikes on IS near Irbil, “to help defend the city where US personnel are assisting the government of Iraq”.

20:03: Adm John Kirby says that shortly after 17:00 local time in Iraq (14:00 GMT), a US drone twice struck an IS mortar position, and IS fighters were “successfully eliminated”.

20:05: In addition, Adm Kirby added that at about 18:20 local time in Iraq, four F/A-18 aircraft struck a stationary IS convoy of seven vehicles and a mortar position near Irbil.

20:06: Adm Kirby continues, “The aircraft executed two planned passes. On both runs, each aircraft dropped one laser guided bomb making a total of eight bombs dropped on target neutralising the mortar and convoy.”

I wonder how much of this battle will be fought with manned aircraft and how much by UAV. Presumably the big guns will be used until ISIS has been pushed back from Irbil and then replaced by drones to patrol the perimeter. I’ve also got to believe that the White House is quietly arming the Kurds behind the scenes. The official line is that Kurdistan is still part of Iraq and therefore all aid to the Kurds has to go through Baghdad, but there’s just no way the White House trusts Maliki enough at this point to let him play middleman when ISIS is already close enough to Irbil to threaten the city. Refusing to arm them when we’re bombing jihadis on their behalf would be beyond nuts. And remember, O’s been willing to quietly arm allies (or would-be allies) before while maintaining a public posture of ambivalence.

As for the airstrikes, the hawkiest hawk in the Senate says they’re worth less than nothing. Well, almost:

“It’s almost worse than nothing because I fear the president is threatening and then he won’t follow through,” said McCain. “It’s the weakest possible response and we cannot allow them to take Erbil. What [the administration has] done so far is almost meaningless.”…

He is calling for more U.S. air strikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, as well as the urgent arming and training of the Kurdish Peshmerga. Until that happens, ISIS will continue to succeed militarily, McCain said.

“You’ve got to take the offensive against ISIS,” he said. “We are allowing them to freely move back and forth. The targets are easily identifiable. You are not going to begin to address the ISIS problem until you take out their enclaves in Syria.”

That’s an interesting question for Obama: How much is a Kurdistan that’s safe from ISIS worth to him? Is it worth secretly arming the peshmerga? Is it worth expanding this bombing campaign to Syria, which would leave us squarely (if temporarily) allied with the same guy in Damascus whom O wanted to bomb last year? Is it worth reaching out to Turkey and the Saudis and trying to assemble a multinational force to take on ISIS? It would be beyond strange if Turkey, of all nations, ended up being the saviors of Kurdistan, but it’s also beyond strange that Sunni leaders in the Middle East are plainly rooting for Israel to finish Hamas and not terribly shy about making that known.

One of the great mysteries of Iraq after the smoke clears will be why the U.S. insisted as long as it did on a unified country instead of cutting Maliki loose and throwing in squarely with the Kurds. We could have sent in military trainers and boatloads of heavy weapons last year, when ISIS was still manageable. Instead, here we are. While you mull that, here’s Jim Acosta of CNN asking White House mouthpiece Josh Earnest whether Obama still thinks ISIS is some sort of jihadi “JV” squad, as he implied back in January. That’s why they call it “smart power,” America.

Update: A former CIA counterterror analyst echoes McCain in arguing that if you’re going to hit ISIS hard enough to hurt them, you have no choice but to hit them where they live, i.e. in Syria. Obama might not be willing to expand the air assault now, writes Aki Peritz, but if the U.S. or one of its allies suffers a terror attack that was planned in Syria, all bets are off.


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McCain???
The clueless senile old senator who posed for a photo op with ISIS terrorists in Syria?

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

So who’s lazing these targets? Who’s providing the ground intelligence? I suppose drones could be providing come areal intelligence, but those JDAMs need target acquisition.

BKeyser on August 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Thank goodness Obama didn’t settle for an archaic and unrefined military solution.

rogerb on August 8, 2014 at 4:49 PM

So who’s lazing these targets?

BKeyser on August 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I think the F-18 can lase its own targets, and I think the UAV’s have other self-guided munitions (optical trackers maybe?).

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM

BKeyser
So who’s lazing these targets? Who’s providing the ground intelligence? I suppose drones could be providing come areal intelligence, but those JDAMs need target acquisition.

300 US military advisors.

can_con on August 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

20:03: Adm John Kirby says that shortly after 17:00 local time in Iraq (14:00 GMT), a US drone twice struck an IS mortar position, and IS fighters were “successfully eliminated”.

One drone “twice struck”?

otlset on August 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Those would be the boots on the ground that Obama ain’t sending. period.

can_con on August 8, 2014 at 4:55 PM

No mercy -like a bees nest at your front door

jaywemm on August 8, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Earnest is a bigger Baghdad Bobby than the previous one, if that is even possible.

Schadenfreude on August 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Hey, hey Obamay how many kids did you kill today?

307wolverine on August 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Thank goodness Obama didn’t settle for an archaic and unrefined military solution.

rogerb on August 8, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Clearly you will have to learn the nuances of smart power when you get to the re-education camps. We are all too damned stupid to understand the master plan.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM

That’s an interesting question for Obama: How much is a Kurdistan that’s safe for ISIS worth to him? Is it worth secretly arming the peshmerga?

Did you mean safe from ISIS?

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Obama should not make the bombings disproportionate.

Or does that only apply to Israel?

sentinelrules on August 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM

here’s Jim Acosta of CNN asking White House mouthpiece Josh Earnest whether Obama still thinks ISIS is some sort of jihadi “JV” squad, as he implied back in January. That’s why they call it “smart power,” America.

That “JV” statement is going to haunt Obama and his ‘legacy’ and so is that “smart power” nomenclature along with “soft power” and “leading from behind” as historians and analysts dissect his foreign policy decisions and weigh them against the reality of the end result of those policies and decision.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

McCain???
The clueless senile old senator who posed for a photo op with ISIS terrorists in Syria?

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

That’s the one. And the very same one who almost got lynched when he went to Eqypt in support of the Muslim Brotherhood.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

That “JV” statement is going to haunt Obama and his ‘legacy’ and so is that “smart power” nomenclature along with “soft power” and “leading from behind” as historians and analysts dissect his foreign policy decisions and weigh them against the reality of the end result of those policies and decision.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

By then all the historians and analysts in America will be speaking and writing in Spanish so I won’t be able to understand them anyway. And since we will be a one party state by then I won’t want to anyway.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Enough is enough. Tell these clowns that they have 24 hours to cease all hostilities or we’ll blow them so far back in to the stone age that they’ll have to reinvent the wheel. If the world continues to stand by and allow these atrocities we will have no right to call ourselves civilized.

bandutski on August 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

And since we will be a one party state by then I won’t want to anyway.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Aren’t we already?

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Obama should not make the bombings disproportionate.

Or does that only apply to Israel?

sentinelrules on August 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Could it be that we’ve found a situation where liberals and moderates don’t insist that both sides have equally valid points?

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Tell these clowns that they have 24 hours to cease all hostilities or we’ll blow them so far back in to the stone age that they’ll have to reinvent the wheel. If the world continues to stand by and allow these atrocities we will have no right to call ourselves civilized.

bandutski on August 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

I don’t understand why we are dealing by using 500lb bombs when we have nuclear weapons.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Refusing to arm them when we’re bombing jihadis on their behalf would be beyond nuts.

After six years of this clown and you still think he wouldn’t do something that’s beyond nuts? I put nothing beyond Dear Liar.

rbj on August 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Fill these hyperprimitive fanatical religious retrogrades with many, many holes and be done with it.

Good Lt on August 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Aren’t we already?

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Almost.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM

nice. that completes the full articles of impeachment. nixons article 5 was re: bombing Cambodia. Obama now has his article 5 fleshed out: “illegal” bombings of Syria. well played.

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Since Obama is a border hawk, he can just seal the Syria/Iraq border and all should be fine…

/

hillsoftx on August 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I don’t understand why we are dealing by using 500lb bombs when we have nuclear weapons.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Obama is saving those to use against Texas in case they decide to stop the flow of future democrat voters coming up from across their one time southern border.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

but if the U.S. or one of its allies suffers a terror attack that was planned in Syria, all bets are off

good thing iraqs not an “ally” then! phew!

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

For a while the administration tried to frame Obama as Roosevelt, and then it was Ronald Reagan, and for a time he was the new Johnson, and briefly he was Dr. King, and recently they’re striving to suggest that he’s somehow the new Lincoln.

He’s none of these, of course, and he can’t seem to manage even to be Obama. I’m not convinced he knows who President Obama really is, or what it is that he’s supposed to contribute to the nation and the world. He most often appears to be a man adrift, trying to react rather than act.

In trying to be all things, he fails to be anything concrete, except that guy who we see getting on a jet if there’s an important and potentially unpleasant vote in DC, or if there’s a crisis somewhere in the world he makes a brief statement, often appearing inconvenienced and peevish at the necessity to appear before the world, he’s almost always late to any public appearance that has to do with his job, and then he’s off again, vacationing, golfing, eating snow cones and burgers, or indulging himself and his guests at yet another lavish White House gala.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

“And remember, O’s been willing to quietly arm allies (or would-be allies)…”

Where do you think ISIS came from…?

Seven Percent Solution on August 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Looks like the Kurds righteous land grab might have been an error. The Pussmerga were a surprise too.

BL@KBIRD on August 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Barry McCafferty to Chuck Todd on MSNBC .

He’s not impressed. “Muddled thinking”, “pin-prick”, “for domestic consumption”.

aquaviva on August 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Obama is saving those to use against Texas in case they decide to stop the flow of future democrat voters coming up from across their one time southern border.

VorDaj on August 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

oh he’ll nuke the red states but he wont be aiming at the dem voters streaming in….

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

and all along he’s been jimmy carter and Nixon, rolled into one. with the worst characteristics of both and none of the positives of either. quite a feat.

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:21 PM

OT:

Woah….

@AnthonyMasonCBS

Breaking News: the death of James Brady, former Reagan press secretary, is being investigated as a homicide by DC Police.

sentinelrules on August 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Bombing a bunch of desert nut-cases is such a 19th century response in a 21st century world.

Walter L. Newton on August 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Could it be that we’ve found a situation where liberals and moderates don’t insist that both sides have equally valid points?

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

the good rev wright might have something to say there

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

I don’t think Obama appreciates that you can’t play tag with these people.
They only have two categories;
Dead or alive and with us or against us.
There is no middle ground, no room to compremise, no understanding to come to.
You don’t ‘Neutralise’ a rasttlesnake.

thelastminstrel on August 8, 2014 at 5:26 PM

One of the great mysteries of Iraq after the smoke clears will be why the U.S. insisted as long as it did on a unified country instead of cutting Maliki loose and throwing in squarely with the Kurds. We could have sent in military trainers and boatloads of heavy weapons last year, when ISIS was still manageable. Instead, here we are.

Because Obama had declared victory in Iraq, it is as simple as that. Let it be written, let it be done. To suggest otherwise would invite an IRS audit.

Johnnyreb on August 8, 2014 at 5:26 PM

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I agree, with a few other elements and influences thrown in, too.

It appears that the left’s ideology isn’t a very good model for a presidency, or for the making of a President.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Only three articles of impeachment on Nixon were adopted by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives. They were all regarding abuse of power and obstruction of justice. None were related to foreign policy.

INC on August 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Absolutely correct on both accounts.

hawkdriver on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

He’s none of these, of course, and he can’t seem to manage even to be Obama. I’m not convinced he knows who President Obama really is, or what it is that he’s supposed to contribute to the nation and the world. He most often appears to be a man adrift, trying to react rather than act

.

Our Faculty Lounge Leader is constantly disappointed that the Real World does act according to his precepts.

PackerBronco on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Obama should not make the bombings disproportionate.

sentinelrules on August 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM

One bomb for Christains. One for Muslims. One bomb…

faraway on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

“…before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother;me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.”

Leon Uris: The Haj

And ISIS and groups like them define ‘infidel’ when, where, and how they choose.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

I don’t understand why we are dealing by using 500lb bombs when we have nuclear weapons.

Happy Nomad on August 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

I don’t think we want to go that route. Once you start with nuclear weapons you open up a host of problems with other countries following suite. With our present military capabilities, committed full force, without nuclear weapons, and without committing ground troops, we have more than enough military power to decimate them. What would get us in to trouble would be using half measures.

bandutski on August 8, 2014 at 5:32 PM

We need heavy drones with A-10 style gatlings on the front of them. Bring them down into the fray and mow everything down until these turds won’t come out at all, lest the drones be waiting.

or…

Nuke. It. From. Orbit.

and be done with them all.

goflyers on August 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM

I don’t think we want to go that route. Once you start with nuclear weapons you open up a host of problems with other countries following suite. With our present military capabilities, committed full force, without nuclear weapons, and without committing ground troops, we have more than enough military power to decimate them. What would get us in to trouble would be using half measures.

bandutski on August 8, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Obama already announced that he has no plans to “decimate” ISIS/ISIL.

What now?

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Bombing a bunch of desert nut-cases is such a 19th century response in a 21st century world.

Walter L. Newton on August 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

FWIW, I’ve lost all respect for you. Especially when you went after Schad.

Bye, girl.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

INC on August 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

thank you, yes. it was a rejected article in the committee:
Earlier in the day, by the same 26-to-12 bipartisan vote, the panel turned down another proposed article that charged Nixon with having usurped the powers of Congress by concealing the bombing of Cambodia from 1969 until it was disclosed in 1973. Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) led the effort to impeach Nixon over ordering the secret bombing during the Vietnam War.

we’ll see how the Obama vote goes. conyers will be voting on that one also I think.

t8stlikchkn on August 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM

What…….a……….mess!

athenadelphi on August 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Our policy toward IS, should follow the words of that Nazi in Raiders of the Lost Ark, the bar scene in Tibet, with Indy: “Kill them. kill them all !”

kjatexas on August 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Toward the end of his tenure as President, Nixon became a President under siege. He seemed trapped in the White House and trapped by his own Presidency. He even kept an ‘enemies’ list.

Obama is very much like Nixon in that ‘under siege’ mentality. Since the day Obama entered the White House he’s conducted himself as a President under siege, acting and reacting as though he was functioning in a hostile environment. This despite his party holding a super majority in congress for the first two years of his first term. From day one, to criticize any aspect of any policy, no matter how mildly or how accurate that criticism was, it was met with an instant hostility from the administration and from Obama in particular.

Anyone who dared to disagree with any policy or decision was immediately cast as a ‘racist’, and an immediate protestation, either from Obama or through his surrogates in the administration and the press, was launched that any criticism must be related to racism, and that has continued to this day, six years later.

Now, as a lame duck President, Obama finds himself feeling even more ‘under siege’ than he did, openly chaffing at the responsibilities of the presidency and longing to be free to pursue his own interests. Too bad he’s not like Nixon in summoning up the decency to resign for the good of the nation.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I’ve also got to believe that the White House is quietly arming the Kurds behind the scenes.

My God I hope so. Yet they are very friendly towards the US, a position that doesn’t endear you to Obama.

Rancher on August 8, 2014 at 5:52 PM

“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.”

- Barack Obama on ISIS

It turns out that there are quite a few Kobe Bryants on the JV team in Iraq.

Resist We Much on August 8, 2014 at 5:52 PM

FWIW, I’ve lost all respect for you. Especially when you went after Schad.

Bye, girl.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Not worth much. But thanks for playing.

Walter L. Newton on August 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM

FWIW, I’ve lost all respect for you. Especially when you went after Schad.

Bye, girl.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

And what respect? I don’t know you, you don’t know me and my commenting here is minimal at best. So what kind of tactic is that “respect” comment all about.

“Someone is wrong on the internet and Key West has to fix it.”

Walter L. Newton on August 8, 2014 at 5:56 PM

“It’s almost worse than nothing because I fear the president is threatening and then he won’t follow through,” said McCain.

.
Obviously Juan is out of the loop and his “friends across the aisle” won’t tell him anything. That’s part of the reason he has to make a public statement which makes him look like an ass. The other part of the reason he has to make a public statement which makes him look like an ass is because… he’s an ass.
.
“My friends… let us build this wall together…”

ExpressoBold on August 8, 2014 at 5:57 PM

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Whew !
Anyone knowledgable in the scriptures sees THAT for what it is.
Wow.

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Why keep asking King Barack questions? Let’s go straight to the horse’s mouth and ask President Jarrett!

GarandFan on August 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Obama already announced that he has no plans to “decimate” ISIS/ISIL.

What now?

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Now we face a long, protracted war that will end up causing more civilian casualties. You don’t try and reason with a rabid dog, you just put it down. Trying to fight a “civilized” war is why we have countless conflicts going on all over the globe. There is only one purpose to war. To defeat the enemy. This new era of trying to fight a war with minimal civilian casualties is laudable but in the end, it really just brutalizes the victims and actually causes more casualties. Once these people understand that war will be a no holds barred affair, they will be a lot less inclined to engage us militarily.

bandutski on August 8, 2014 at 6:01 PM

No matter how this ends, this will not end for Obama. This is his hell. He made it, he started it, but it will end only with the next president, whoever that may be. This train has left the station, Army and Marine forces will be deployed. It is simply a question of when.

flackcatcher on August 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Welcome to the party, pal.

formwiz on August 8, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Wait…didn’t barry’s mouthpiece just get done telling us there is NO military solution to Iraq?

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/07/obama-admin-is-sure-theres-no-military-solution-in-iraq-everyone-else-is-wrong/

???

a5minmajor on August 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM

So who’s lazing these targets? Who’s providing the ground intelligence? I suppose drones could be providing come areal intelligence, but those JDAMs need target acquisition.

BKeyser on August 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I think the F-18 can lase its own targets, and I think the UAV’s have other self-guided munitions (optical trackers maybe?).

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM

That depends. There are targeting pods like LITENING, LANTIRN, and Sniper XR that can lase targets and can be fitted to most of the figters, attack planes, and bombers in our inventory.

JDAM has inertial and GPS guidance.

The Hellfires that UAV’s are usually armed with are laser-guided. The radar-guided version is only used on the AH-64D as far as I know.

Walter Sobchak on August 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM

“..a US drone twice struck an IS mortar position, and IS fighters were “successfully eliminated”.”

They should keep right on “eliminating” IS fighters until there are none left… ;)

snoozinglion on August 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM

No matter how this ends, this will not end for Obama. This is his hell. He made it, he started it, but it will end only with the next president, whoever that may be. This train has left the station, Army and Marine forces will be deployed. It is simply a question of when.

Roger that…

snoozinglion on August 8, 2014 at 8:06 PM

One drone “twice struck”?

otlset on August 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Yes, that’s a perfectly reasonable English phrase. (Which is a little surprising, given how little attention “reasonable English” evidently gets in journalism courses, nowadays.)

GWB on August 8, 2014 at 8:35 PM

oooooh “decimate”

RushBaby on August 8, 2014 at 9:03 PM

FWIW, I’ve lost all respect for you. Especially when you went after Schad.

Bye, girl.

Key West Reader on August 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Not worth much. But thanks for playing.

Walter L. Newton on August 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Actually, it is worth quite a bit. What allies do you have (left) on this board, “Walter L. Newton”?

RushBaby on August 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Is it worth expanding this bombing campaign to Syria, which would leave us squarely (if temporarily) allied with the same guy in Damascus whom O wanted to bomb last year?

The last of the known chemical weapons owned by Assad have been delivered to the UN, collected, and have left the country.

I really wonder what game Turkey is playing in all of this. They shoot down Assad’s assets whenever they stray over the border, but they are also fighting ISIS — the same guys Assad has been fighting.

Turkey is going to have a fit if we arm the Kurds, but at this point, I’d say go for it. The Kurds have been reliable — they’ve never shot us in the back like Turkey. And ISIS is an external enemy of both Assad and the rebels fighting for a democracy. Anything that hurts them helps Syria as a whole.

unclesmrgol on August 8, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Once again the politicians are running the ops. Get out of the way and let the military do what they are trained to do. Politicians turn possible success into clausterfarks. Look what we have now. The oh so great commander in chief who never worked a day in his life and hates the military.

crosshugger on August 9, 2014 at 8:40 AM

That depends. There are targeting pods like LITENING, LANTIRN, and Sniper XR that can lase targets and can be fitted to most of the figters, attack planes, and bombers in our inventory.

JDAM has inertial and GPS guidance.

The Hellfires that UAV’s are usually armed with are laser-guided. The radar-guided version is only used on the AH-64D as far as I know.

Walter Sobchak on August 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM

The F/A-18 uses a targeting FLIR pod specifically developed for it by Raytheon. It’s called ATFLIR or AN/ASQ-228.

ZeusGoose on August 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Hey, let’s add this one to Zero’s legacy. He is starting the next great crusade against the Muslim horde. Look! He’s historically significant!

stvnscott on August 9, 2014 at 10:10 AM