Sleep tight: Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times in last 10 days

posted at 2:41 pm on August 8, 2014 by Noah Rothman

At a July 29 press conference, President Barack Obama assured reporters that the new conflict between the U.S. and Russia, one characterized by economic and military proxy conflict on a variety of fronts, is “not a new Cold War.” He’s right; at no point during the Cold War would the Soviets have felt comfortable engaging in the systematic testing of American defense parameters with nuclear bombers. The current leadership in the Kremlin, however, has no such qualms about employing that kind of instigation.

According to a report from the Washington Free Beacon’s Bill Gertz, U.S. defense officials are warning that Russian strategic nuclear bombers have conducted no less than 16 incursions into American airspace in just a 10-day period. Gertz characterizes this uptick in the number of times American airspace has been penetrated by Russian air assets as an “unusually sharp increase.”

“The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine,” the report read.

The bomber flights took place mainly along the Alaskan air defense identification zone that covers the Aleutian Islands and the continental part of the state, and one incursion involved entry into Canada’s air defense zone, Smith said.

The Russian strategic aircraft included a mix of Tu-95 Bear H heavy bombers and Tu-142 Bear F maritime reconnaissance aircraft, she said, adding that one IL-20 intelligence collection aircraft was detected during the flight incursions over the past week to 10 days.

This is only the latest escalation in tensions between Russia and the United States. In July, America accused Russia of violating the 1987 nuclear test ban treaty with a test of a ground-launched cruise missile.

“The U.S. said Russia tested a new ground-launched cruise missile, breaking the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty that President Ronald Reagan signed with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev,” the Voice of America reported. “The Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty was designed to eliminate ground-launched cruise missiles with ranges of 500-5,500 kilometers.”

These aggressive moves by Russia come amid an effort on the part of Moscow to destabilize Ukraine following the invasion and annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. This week, NATO and some of its member states have warned that the increasing number of Russian forces on the Ukrainian border, and some Russian officials expressing their support for a “humanitarian mission” to eastern Ukraine, suggest that an invasion of that former Soviet Republic could be imminent.

Russia recently imposed strict restrictions on the imports of a variety of foods from nations participating in sectoral sanctions aimed at punishing the Russian Federation for their actions inside Ukraine. Russia is currently conducting large-scale military exercises along the Ukrainian border, raising concerns in Western capitals as past military exercises have been used by Russia as cover for military action against neighboring states.


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Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times last 10 days

Fix this headline, Noah. The ADIZ is not the edge of US airspace. Do some research.

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM

They’re just testing our “Flexibility!”

Deano1952 on August 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM

“Where’s Major Kong?”

Akzed on August 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM

If we impeach Obama, will they stop?

jediwebdude on August 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Red Alert in reverse!!

Deano1952 on August 8, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Are we doing the same thing? I hope so, although if we are doing it on a regular basis, leave it to obama to stop it on the grounds that it is an unfair use of technology.

warmairfan on August 8, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Sleep tight: Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times last 10 days

Air defense identification zone are not US airspace.

In Korea for example they extend over North Korea itself.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 2:48 PM

They are just trying to find out where the Beer Summit is. Bams keeps changing the location, time, and day. He’s got that flexibility thing going on.

31giddyup on August 8, 2014 at 2:51 PM

He’s right; at no point during the Cold War would the Soviets have felt comfortable engaging in the systematic testing of American defense parameters with nuclear bombers.

Bullshiite – you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The Soviets ran bombers up and down our coastlines all the time throughout the cold war.
I was in NORAD in the 80s – I saw it.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Obama will probably order US air forces to stand down so as to not “provoke the innocent, peace loving Putin! We must lay down and beg! That’s Smart Power! And hey, if Wasilla disappears in a mushroom cloud, who cares?”

Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Penetrating the other guy’s ADIZ has long been recognized as good clean fun.

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I salute you, PersonFromPorlock.

This seems like much ado about nothing.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Thanks to those that have clarified that defense identification zone is not the same as US airspace. I was wondering about this because the Free Beacon article never uses the term “US airspace.”

Mark1971 on August 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Meanwhile, the only departmental budget that Obama is willing to cut remains the Dept of Defense budget.

Athos on August 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Penetrating the other guy’s ADIZ has long been recognized as good clean fun.

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Especially now that we’re past that ridiculous don’t ask/don’t tell policy….

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Putin lettered in his freshman year. Obama and his merry band of traitorous idiots hugged the pine on the freshman team. They never even made it to the JV team.

We are screwed.

jukin3 on August 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM

If Vlad makes a move at least one of their skilled pilots will get through our defense.We can expect some losses,maybe 20 million,tops.

docflash on August 8, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I’ve never seen so many sentences turned into paragraphs. They must be giving away free commas.

whatcat on August 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Affirmative action in action.

jukin3 on August 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM

I have an idea!

Let’s unilaterally deMIRV/MARV all of our nuclear arsenal.

What Obama already did that? Huh.

jukin3 on August 8, 2014 at 3:03 PM

This is a problem easily handled: Shoot one down, then blame it on separatists who mistook it for a civilian aircraft . . . /S

BLOC on August 8, 2014 at 3:03 PM

This was a regular occurrence during the Cold War.

DisneyFan on August 8, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Thanks to those that have clarified that defense identification zone is not the same as US airspace. I was wondering about this because the Free Beacon article never uses the term “US airspace.”

Mark1971 on August 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Yes – big difference between the ADIZ boundary and “US airspace” – like several hundred miles in most places (it varies).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_(North_America)

Any time an “unknown” aircraft enters the ADIZ, NORAD attempts to identify it, first by radar, then depending on heading, radar readings, and communications response, NORAD will scramble fighters to go intercept and check it out visually.

Although the Russians may be doing a bit more of this than they have been in the last few years, it’s nothing new.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:05 PM

If we impeach Obama, will they stop?

jediwebdude on August 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM

we can at least try,

phatfawzi on August 8, 2014 at 3:05 PM

And hey, if Wasilla disappears in a mushroom cloud, who cares?” Vanceone on August 8, 2014 at 2:53 PM

If it did they could see it from Russia!

Akzed on August 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Sleep tight: Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times last 10 days

Ed, Did the Russians really penetrate US airspace per your headline? Somehow I doubt that. Most of the information I see says the furthest probe was still 50 miles off US territory.

While these and other incidents deserve attention, you make it sound like the US was violated when it clearly wasn’t.

lexhamfox on August 8, 2014 at 3:07 PM

This is all a part of our new ‘FLEXIBILITY”

rjoco1 on August 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM

don’t forget guys, rothman wrote college papers on this stuff (using info I and others gathered on the actual ground years ago) so he knows more than we do.
we should feel good he takes time to voxplain stuff to us.

lexhamfox on August 8, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Ed didn’t write this.

dmacleo on August 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Somewhat related:

Cool pics of us responding when they’d test our carriers: http://theaviationist.com/2013/12/09/f4-vs-tu-95/

DisneyFan on August 8, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Yeah but Obama said Russia isn’t a threat and mocked Romney about saying they were so there.

Johnnyreb on August 8, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Commenting that the bombers are not entering our air space is like saying that it wasn’t “rape” rape. Those comments are disingenuous at best and most likely direct Russian propaganda written by Putin’s social media hoard.

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Things like this only seem scary to those who have no actual knowledge of what went on during the Cold War with the Soviets.

Soviets ships at one time rammed American naval vessels, conducted mock missile attacks on them, and even shot down US spy/recon planes. Multiple RB-29/50/47 and P2V Neptune recon aircraft were shot down by Soviet fighters.

This is nothing.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM

He’s right; at no point during the Cold War would the Soviets have felt comfortable engaging in the systematic testing of American defense parameters with nuclear bombers. The current leadership in the Kremlin, however, has no such qualms about employing that kind of instigation.

this level of BS should get you fired, not only is a complete lie its a dangerous one.
we had much worse in the 80′s including, near the fulda gap, known intelligence officers taking photos of our facilities.
but yeah…this adiz issue (not us airspace) is so much worse.
tell me something, did you gain ANY knowledge bootstrapping off of our sacrifices?
so glad I disabled myself at 19 so phuqs like you get ahead.

dmacleo on August 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM

If Vlad makes a move at least one of their skilled pilots will get through our defense.We can expect some losses,maybe 20 million,tops. docflash on August 8, 2014 at 2:59 PM

“I’m not saying that we wouldn’t get our hair mussed…”

Akzed on August 8, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Ed didn’t write this.

dmacleo on August 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Thanks. Knowing it was Noah rather than Ed this sensationalist BS makes sense.

Per NORAD:

“There have been absolutely no incursions into U.S. airspace. Zero. No violations of U.S. sovereign airspace,”

lexhamfox on August 8, 2014 at 3:19 PM

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

yeah…except for under reagan,bush1,clinton,bush2 of course. was only a teen under carter so no idea, wasn’t paying attn then, but suspect it also happened just like it always has.
and if I am considered a propagandist then KMA and GFY

dmacleo on August 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Commenting that the bombers are not entering our air space is like saying that it wasn’t “rape” rape. Those comments are disingenuous at best and most likely direct Russian propaganda written by Putin’s social media hoard.

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Not if they only entered the ADIZ – which is NOT the same thing as U.S. airspace.
In your analogy, it’s more like saying a guy dancing within 5 feet of a girl on the dance floor IS rape.

And, yes, this happened regularly under EVERY President since WW2.
But Putin increasing the frequency of it right now is definitely an intentional slap at King Putt.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM

You are 100% correct.

dogsoldier on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Sleep tight: Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times in last 10 days

Obama’s message of weakness telling Putin that “I’ll have more flexibility after election” was received and thoroughly understood by Putin.

RJL on August 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Commenting that the bombers are not entering our air space is like saying that it wasn’t “rape” rape. Those comments are disingenuous at best and most likely direct Russian propaganda written by Putin’s social media hoard.

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

You could not be more incorrect. Not even if you tried.

GAbred on August 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

But Putin increasing the frequency of it right now is definitely an intentional slap at King Putt.

That was my point. I am old enough to remember the cat-and-mouse games of the cold war.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

If we had a real President, not this infantile 6 year old girly wuss any enemy nuclear bomber would get SHOT AT if it entered our airspace.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Headline is extremely misleading and is, in fact, a lie. The Russians have penetrated US Defense Zones, but have ALWAYS remained in International Airspace – not ours. We do the same thing – regularly – to them and the Chinese.

PJ Emeritus on August 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

He’s right; at no point during the Cold War would the Soviets have felt comfortable engaging in the systematic testing of American defense parameters with nuclear bombers. The current leadership in the Kremlin, however, has no such qualms about employing that kind of instigation.

They felt comfortable doing a whole lot more than that.

http://www.patriotspoint.org/news_events/cold-war-shootdown-1955/

On 22 June 1955 a P2V Neptune from Navy Patrol Squadron Nine (VP-9) was flying a routine maritime patrol in the Bering Strait. The aircraft was at 8000 feet altitude and 40 miles west of Saint Lawrence Island. Suddenly the P2V was attacked by two Soviet MIG -15 fighters and the plane commander Lieutenant Fischer saw tracers past under his starboard (right) wing. He dove his aircraft into the cloud deck, which luckily was just 100 feet below him. Fischer also turned his aircraft towards the nearest land, Saint Lawrence Island.

LT Fischer soon learned that his port (left) engine was on fire and three of his eleven crew members ( Ensign Assard, AT3 Benko and AQ2 Lerg) were wounded by the Soviet attack. His attempts to put out the engine fire failed and he shut it down. However, the fire continued to burn and spread on the port wing. Soon the aircraft broke out of the overcast at 1500 feet and Saint Lawrence Island was in sight. LT Fischer informed the crew to prepare for a gear up landing on the tundra. The Neptune made a smooth landing on the tundra, but halfway through the slide a gas tank in the bomb bay burst into flames. The crew exited quickly, but several received burns from the flames. LTJG Lockhart broke his leg jumping from the cockpit to the tundra, but all eleven crew members would survive the day.

At the height of the Cold War from 1950 to 1970 there were at least 20 American aircraft shot down by Soviet military forces. It was only a Cold War if you were not being shot at…

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

If we had a real President, not this infantile 6 year old girly wuss any enemy nuclear bomber would get SHOT AT if it entered our airspace.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Uh, they didn’t enter US airspace. Noah seriously needs to get a proofreader or assistant or something. At least someone to check his work before he posts something like this.

Johnnyreb on August 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Exactly.
My Dad was on a Coast Guard cutter in the North Atlantic in 1972 (I think) when a Russian sub had a fire and had to surface. My Dad’s ship was the closest to the sub, so they went over to offer assistance (per US Navy orders, BTW). The Russians declined, so our ship hung around, “just in case” for a couple days until the Soviet fleet showed up – and the Soviets told them to get lost. Proceeded to play games for the next few days with the Soviets trying to back into our ship in order to claim an international incident that was our fault.
I now have my Dad’s photos of that whole incident – like a Kresta class cruiser within 50 feet of my Dad’s ship.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

This seems like much ado about nothing.

Red Cloud on August 8, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Back in the 60′s, we saw so much of this that we became familiar with some of the crews. They’d fly, we’d intercept. It wasn’t unusual for crews on both sides to wave at each other and snap photos. Everybody was just doing the jobs we’d been assigned by our respective bosses.

oldleprechaun on August 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Sleep tight: Russian nuclear bombers penetrated U.S. airspace 16 times in last 10 days

Slava!

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

If we had a real President, not this infantile 6 year old girly wuss any enemy nuclear bomber would get SHOT AT if it entered our airspace.

ConstantineXI on August 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Airspace – yes, but not ADIZ.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

And, yes, this happened regularly under EVERY President since WW2.
But Putin increasing the frequency of it right now is definitely an intentional slap at King Putt.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Bingo. The increased frequency is probably intended to send a message to The One, but the specific acts are nothing new.

DisneyFan on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Uh, they didn’t enter US airspace. Noah seriously needs to get a proofreader or assistant or something. At least someone to check his work before he posts something like this.

Johnnyreb on August 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

needs a babysitter

dmacleo on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Hey Mitt. The 1980′s called and they want their foreign policy back.

Conservative in NOVA on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

We fished an entire P-3 crew out of the Bering Strait in 1978 in a then-classified mission out of Elmendorf – I know – I was there, wet and cold. That aircraft was always rumored to have been downed by the Soviets, and that was in the Carter “Administration.”

PJ Emeritus on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Noah, is there ANYTHING you’re able to right competently about?

The “facts” that you lay out in this article are complete and utter rubbish, as has been pointed out by many commenters here already. It’s really starting to become embarrassing at this point.

Shump on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

My Dad was on a Coast Guard cutter in the North Atlantic in 1972 (I think) when a Russian sub had a fire and had to surface. My Dad’s ship was the closest to the sub, so they went over to offer assistance (per US Navy orders, BTW). The Russians declined, so our ship hung around, “just in case” for a couple days until the Soviet fleet showed up – and the Soviets told them to get lost. Proceeded to play games for the next few days with the Soviets trying to back into our ship in order to claim an international incident that was our fault.
I now have my Dad’s photos of that whole incident – like a Kresta class cruiser within 50 feet of my Dad’s ship.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

I heard the stories my dad told (again and again and again) about the Cuban Missile Crisis and how tense that was. I suspect the new crowd would understand why hiding under your desk was so comforting if there was any repeat of that today.

Soviet bombers would play intruder games with the interceptors along the DEW line trying to find a way that the radars wouldn’t spot them, or wouldn’t be able to discover how may of them there were.

They simply have no idea what it was like and no frame of reference to make a judgment.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

We do the same thing – regularly – to them and the Chinese.

PJ Emeritus on August 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Yes we do – or did – no telling what kind of ops King Putt has shut down.

A friend from HS enlisted in the Navy in the 80s and went into subs. He was on one called the Parche that got a couple Presidential Unit Citations from Reagan for missions they couldn’t talk about for a long time. Look up a book called “Blind Man’s Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage“. There are some stories about what the Parche did when my friend was a crew member – spoiler alert – they went into Soviet ports/bays for some of their spy work.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Looks like the Bears *are* loose…

affenhauer on August 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Soviet bombers would play intruder games with the interceptors along the DEW line trying to find a way that the radars wouldn’t spot them, or wouldn’t be able to discover how may of them there were.

They simply have no idea what it was like and no frame of reference to make a judgment.

sharrukin on August 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Yup.
Having been a crew member in Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD) in the 80s, I saw a lot of it – even though I was actually an orbital analyst in the Space Surveillance Center.
Bomber and recon plane flights, missile and attack subs along the coasts, anti-satellite tests, you name it – there was a lot going on throughout the cold war.
We had regular briefings and screens available to us for everything that was going on across all work centers – air defense, missile warning, and of course the command post consolidation of the whole picture.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Penetrating the other guy’s ADIZ has long been recognized as good clean fun.

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM

- Barney Frank

FIFY

Dopenstrange on August 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Even after Obama cut our defenses down to the core, it did nothing to the US deficit,,, isn’t it approaching 18 trillion. My point is that cutting defense doesn’t do much to deficit cutting but leaves us very vulnerable.

garydt on August 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

They have to get that close to transmit talking points to HotAir’s Putin-fluffers.

slickwillie2001 on August 8, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I think there’s a conversation to be had about Russia ramping up ADIZ incursions, but this post must be updated to correct the inaccurate information before any such conservation can be had.

Until its updated this post is embarrassing.

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Putin: “As long as our glorious Olympics got completed, SCREW YOU! HA HA HA HA HA!!”

Remember the MSM gushing over the spectacular ceremonies, Putin himself, and the whole magilla???

Those 5′ 10″ models with the slit skirts up to HERE sure were hot, though, eh?? (Except for the one who had to lead the Iranian squad — she was forced to wear ankle-length pants underneath the tight skirt.)

fred5678 on August 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Noah, is there ANYTHING you’re able to right competently about?

Shump on August 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Ouch. Autocorrect sucks.

GWB on August 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Take down that stupid headline.

ADIZ’s are not “US AIRSPACE.” One is a 200 mile zone, the other is 12 miles.

That’s per NORAD.

SAMinVA on August 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM

So it’s a tossup who gets him first – Vlad or the crazies.

formwiz on August 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Hey, why not? Putin knows that obama is too lazy and stoned to stop him – I can’t fault him for taking advantage of America’s growing weakness.

Pork-Chop on August 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM

The headline is the same as several other articles which are also factually incorrect.

Imrahil on August 8, 2014 at 4:35 PM

“Its not a cold war, it is a cool war” The Choom Gang!

Sven on August 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Ouch. Autocorrect sucks.

GWB on August 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM

LOL. Indeed. Good catch.

Shump on August 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Bingo. The increased frequency is probably intended to send a message to The One, but the specific acts are nothing new.

DisneyFan on August 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

As you say, nothing new. But I do have to wonder what message Putin could send to Obama at this point that Obama hasn’t already heard, loud and clear.

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Anyone see the light show the Russians put on to wish Barky a happy birthday?

It’s racist, most definitely. Still, considering for whom it’s intended … I laughed.

WhirledPeas on August 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM

As you say, nothing new. But I do have to wonder what message Putin could send to Obama at this point that Obama hasn’t already heard, loud and clear.

PersonFromPorlock on August 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

The problem is King Putt doesn’t understand the messages being sent to him.

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Raygun would have shot them down, right?

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Is Putin telling us that he can’t trust the old USSR missiles?

meci on August 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM

As long as you couldn’t see them from Sarah Palin’s house, it’s all good. Come to think of it, they ought to give her some RPG’s. That way, if she does see one from her house, at least someone in the Western Hemisphere will have the ovaries, excuse me, the stones, to shoot it down.

smellthecoffee on August 8, 2014 at 5:55 PM

This is only the latest escalation in tensions between Russia and the United States. In July, America accused Russia of violating the 1987 nuclear test ban treaty with a test of a ground-launched cruise missile.

These “violations” date from 2008. Something that Voice Of America didn’t bother to report, Noah. That’s because they’re a propaganda mill that no serious person ever quotes.

If we can’t determine and protest treaty violations in less than six years, there is no real treaty to begin with because we aren’t enforcing it.

These “violations” came along very conveniently just as Obama and Lurch are trying to ratchet up action against Russia. But if these violations were so awful, so destabilizing, then why did Hitlery and Obama ram the new START treaty through the Senate?

These supposed “violations” are phony. Or the prez and his cronies are too ineffective to conduct a foreign policy at all.

Toocon on August 8, 2014 at 7:27 PM

This incursion wouldn’t be happening under any president other than Pantload.

tominsd on August 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Raygun would have shot them down, right?

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Nah, nothing so direct. Maybe make a couple of close passes until the Chinese fighter pilot misjudges and rams his jet into one of our P’3s …

Oh, sorry … must have been having a flashback.

Alien on August 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Oh, sorry … must have been having a flashback.

Alien on August 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Reminds me of that incident over southern California

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 8:00 PM

where the crew of the Chinese spy plane was force to make an emergency landing in San Diego a few years ago

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Why is this news? Obama is used to having his spaces penetrated by Putin.

Armed Texan on August 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Jugears knows penetration quite well.

platypus on August 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Here’s a cool shot of a Mig intercept over the arctic circle by a flight of 4 f-15s, circa 1989. The jet breaking off is circling around to get behind them. Fair warning, it’s a big photo. Those f-15s are probably still flying.

V7_Sport on August 9, 2014 at 12:22 AM

where the crew of the Chinese spy plane was force to make an emergency landing in San Diego a few years ago

DarkCurrent on August 8, 2014 at 8:00 PM

More dimwittedness on display.

corkie on August 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

It’s sad that this post still hasn’t been corrected.

corkie on August 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Here’s a cool shot of a Mig intercept over the arctic circle by a flight of 4 f-15s, circa 1989. The jet breaking off is circling around to get behind them. Fair warning, it’s a big photo. Those f-15s are probably still flying.

V7_Sport on August 9, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Terrific photo. But IRRC this was a USAF ‘escort’ joining up with a Russian flight that was transiting Alaska on its way to an airshow somewhere. All very much pre-cleared and on the up-and-up.

PersonFromPorlock on August 9, 2014 at 2:36 PM

corkie on August 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

More dimwittedness on display.

DarkCurrent on August 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM

More dimwittedness on display.

DarkCurrent on August 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Nope. My comment was brilliantly exposing your inability to understand the point another commenter was making.

corkie on August 9, 2014 at 5:13 PM

More dimwittedness on display.

DarkCurrent on August 9, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Third grade troll.

corkie on August 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM

corkie on August 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM

It took you 18 hours to come up with that?

DarkCurrent on August 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM