U.S. weighing airdrops — and/or airstrikes — to help Yazidis trapped on mountain by ISIS

posted at 12:41 pm on August 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

An update to Ed’s post this morning about the tens of thousands of Yazidi Kurds forced up onto Mount Sinjar to escape jihadi barbarians. The good news is, help might be on the way:

The president, in meetings with his national security team at the White House on Thursday morning, has been weighing a series of options ranging from dropping humanitarian supplies on Mount Sinjar to military strikes on the fighters from ISIS now at the base of the mountain, a senior administration official said…

The administration had been delaying taking any military action against ISIS until there is a new Iraqi government. Both White House and Pentagon officials have said privately that the United States would not intervene militarily until Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki stepped down.

But administration officials said on Thursday that the crisis on Mount Sinjar may be forcing their hand. About 40 children have already died from the heat and dehydration, according to Unicef, while as many as 40,000 people have been sheltering in the bare mountains without food, water or access to supplies.

The bad news is, Obama and his team have been kicking this idea around for at least two days with no movement yet. George Packer reported yesterday that he’d heard the day before from an administration official that they were weighing an airlift of humanitarian supplies to the Yazidis. Two days later, they’re still weighing it. Presumably, if they’re leaking to the Times now about deliberations, they’re finally planning on acting soon. A UN official told one paper that ISIS’s persecution of the Yazidis may already amount to genocide or crimes against humanity as they’re being exterminated on sight as infidels, without even the option to convert or pay jizya to reside in ISIS-occupied land. The last rumor I saw on Twitter was that Turkey’s air force is planning strikes on ISIS at the Kurds’ request; maybe that’s part of the hold up in the White House, to see if the military end of this can be outsourced to someone else.

Here’s a bit more from Packer. Even if the Yazidis are saved, what happens then?

Karim couldn’t help expressing bitterness about this. “I don’t see any attention from the rest of the world,” he said. “In one day, they killed more than two thousand Yazidi in Sinjar, and the whole world says, ‘Save Gaza, save Gaza.’”…

The aim of the Sinjar operation seems to be control of the Mosul Dam, the largest dam in Iraq, which provides electricity to Mosul, Baghdad, and much of the country. According to one expert, if ISIS takes the dam, which is located on the Tigris River, it would have the means to put Mosul under thirty metres of water, and Baghdad under five. Other nearby targets could include the Kurdish cities of Erbil and Dohuk. Karim reported that residents of Dohuk, inundated with refugees, felt not just a sense of responsibility for Sinjar but also alarm, and that they were stocking up on supplies in case of an attack.

That was published yesterday. ISIS took the dam this morning, although the fight for control is still raging. The group can either use the dam for energy, to power its new territory, or it can drown Iraq by blowing it up. Given the savagery they’ve shown already, replete with alleged beheadings of children, blowing the dam seems like a horrifyingly real possibility, especially if the tide of the war turns and the group wants to go out with a bang. Presumably that’s the real purpose of those looming Turkish airstrikes, dislodging ISIS from the area around the dam before they can secure it and start wiring the structure to take it down if need be. Exit quotation: “Even Genghis Khan … didn’t do this.”


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My guess is King Barky the Incompetent takes a few weeks to decide and by then the Yazdis are all dead and Obama blames republicans for it somehow.

jukin3 on August 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Obama with dither and wait until any action taken is too little too late.

oscarwilde on August 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Christians, and Muslims, are getting wiped out. This is genocide. Where are the liberal supporters on stopping this?

anotherJoe on August 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM

We must help the Kurds, and we must FIGHT ISIS!

otlset on August 7, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Considering air strikes, but will ultimately settle on strongly worded hashtags. #stopkillingimeanit

traye on August 7, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Airdrops?! They’re surrounded by soldiers who can outlast them indefinitely.

How does this help besides giving the appearance that Obama cares? “Hey – I sent them some peanut butter crackers… I think that’s better than the republicans in congress who won’t come up with a better plan.”

Skywise on August 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

obama checked out a long time ago and is on vacation now.

President Jarrett is with the bad ones.

Schadenfreude on August 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The country that orchestrated the Berlin airlift.

Sigh. They will talk themselves to death and any thing they do will be half assed.

losarkos on August 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Christians, and Muslims, are getting wiped out. This is genocide. Where are the liberal supporters on stopping this?

anotherJoe on August 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM

They are busy patting themselves on the back for their own good intentions while cheering for the Rider of the Pale Horse.

oscarwilde on August 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Yeah….president Jarrett. Double sigh.

losarkos on August 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Airstrikes solves the problem. Airdrops exacerbates the situation immensely and potentially makes ISIS go into the mountains to kill the Yazidis directly. Make the right choice for once in your life, Obama.

chrisbolts on August 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Yes, this will happen…..don’t you people remember when this
Administration rescued our personnel at that Consulate??

Where was that again?? And that Video maker tried to
disrupt the operation, and..and….and…

ToddPA on August 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM

The administration had been delaying taking any military action against ISIS until there is a new Iraqi government.

That’s their reason?

This is insane. Now 200,000 Christians are fleeing toward Kurdistan.

forest on August 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM

But administration officials said on Thursday that the crisis on Mount Sinjar may be forcing their hand. About 40 children have already died from the heat and dehydration, according to Unicef, while as many as 40,000 people have been sheltering in the bare mountains without food, water or access to supplies.

 
The bad news is, Obama and his team have been kicking this idea around for at least two days with no movement yet…
 
…maybe that’s part of the hold up in the White House, to see if the military end of this can be outsourced to someone else.

 
“May be forcing their hand”?
 
So Al Qaeda ISIS is waiting them out, and Obama is, too.
 
Wow.

rogerb on August 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Like putting anti-itch ointment on a staph infection: you’re not solving the issue or even stymying it’s growth with either of these ideas.

Ebola on August 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Obama will need a $3.7b package from Congress, and if he doesn’t get it, the blood is on Boehner’s hands.

Ward Cleaver on August 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Obama with dither and wait until any action taken is too little too late.

oscarwilde on August 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM

That is how he always responds to real crises.

Dither dither dither dither dither dither and act only when people start openly mocking his dithering.

Crises better happen only between the hours of 10AM and 3PM if you expect Barry to do anything about it. And they better not happen when a golf outing, Vacay, party, or fundraiser is scheduled. 3AM is right out, don’t ring the phone, it’s off the hook.

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

The UN is worthless, as usual.

obama is on vacation.

The Chaldeans are the nicest people and the entire world should be ashamed about its passivity.

Clinton has Rwanda on his conscience.

obama surpasses Bill Clinton manifold, on supporting savages around the world.

IS (ISIS) should have been bombed when they formed in Syria.

obama should never rest, not for one second. He has all the souls on his.

Schadenfreude on August 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Ebola on August 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Keep your distance. Just sayin.

ToddPA on August 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

I was going to say that these maniacs are an existential threat to everyone except fundamentalist Sunnis, but I’m pretty sure they would murder the Saudis and other Sunnis too.

forest on August 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The administration had been delaying taking any military action against ISIS until there is a new Iraqi government.

That’s their reason?

This is insane. Now 200,000 Christians are fleeing toward Kurdistan.

forest on August 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM

He’s cut off aid to Egypt until they restore the muzzie bros to power.

Isis is related to the muzzie bros (so is Al Queida), so that should tell you what kind of Iraq government he is waiting for…

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Airstrikes solves the problem. Airdrops exacerbates the situation immensely and potentially makes ISIS go into the mountains to kill the Yazidis directly. Make the right choice for once in your life, Obama.

chrisbolts on August 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Not to bright are you chris. Airstrikes alone do not solve anything. They are not hiding in the mountains because one or two Muslim terrorists are threatening them. They are starving to death without food or water or supplies. That won’t change because of a few airstrikes.

Nobody is going to eliminate ISIS with a few airstrikes, nobody is going to take ISIS down in a few minutes or hours. The Yazidis are going to starve to death if they do not get food and water.

oscarwilde on August 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Barky is looking at this as a legacy builder. He boldly and fearlessly dropped MRE’s to the Ukrainians in their efforts to defeat the Ruskies, a tactic certain to turn the tide.

He just needs to take his time to make certain that the Yazidi babies who he saves by dropping MRE’s will grab the sticks on the mountain and defeat ISIS with them. As long as those MRE’s are not too heavy on the fat content.

This preznit is certainly a fearless leader. The world is just so lucky to have him.

NOMOBO on August 7, 2014 at 1:01 PM

If ISIS blows up the dam I’m sure Obama will criticize them for acting extra extra irresponsibly.

PackerBronco on August 7, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Isn’t wholesale slaughter against the Geneva Convention?

/

LashRambo on August 7, 2014 at 1:02 PM

2days???????

Dang it why cant they leave me in peace before my vacay?

cmsinaz on August 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Some people just want to see the world burn.

And other people just want to play their fiddle.

PackerBronco on August 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Is it just my imagination, or is everything going to hell with Obama as leader of the free world?

LashRambo on August 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM

It’s 3am 24/7 these days thanks to Bambi, our faculty lounge leader, and his cadre of dudes and dudettes.

PackerBronco on August 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

What will Val do…?

d1carter on August 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Carpet bombing.

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Weighing… Considering… That’s all this President does.

We need a LEADER who knows the goal of “weighing” & “considering” is to ACT!

taznar on August 7, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Is it just my imagination, or is everything going to hell with Obama as leader of the free world?

LashRambo on August 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Welcome back from your 5 year coma.

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM

He’ll hem and haw and say “folks” a lot until his vacation starts, at which point he’ll blame a do-nothing congress.

Meanwhile, children die of thirst on a mountain near Mosul.

Noted Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Hussein Obama.

TarasBulbous on August 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM

The situation with the Mosul Dam is even worse than you think, AP. The dam is built on gypsum, which makes it necessary to constantly pump cement into the foundations. They don’t even need to blow it up, all they need to do is stop maintaining it and it will collapse on its own. I doubt the subhuman rabble known as ISIS could even do the maintenance if they wanted to.

Walter Sobchak on August 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Bambi will order airdrops of DVDs of his speeches.

PackerBronco on August 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Isn’t wholesale slaughter against the Geneva Convention?

/

LashRambo on August 7, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Only if Muslims are getting slaughtered, apparently.
Any and all non-Muslims are fair game now.

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Karim couldn’t help expressing bitterness about this. “I don’t see any attention from the rest of the world,” he said. “In one day, they killed more than two thousand Yazidi in Sinjar, and the whole world says, ‘Save Gaza, save Gaza.’”…

Clearly this gentleman doesn’t understand the importance of anti-Israel anti-Semitism.

FishingwFredo on August 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM

There is a reason that Obama is president at this time in history and we are seeing it unfold before our very eyes. We are witnessing the rise of the final beast with the mortal wound that was healed. The nations of the world will be dumbfounded as what to do and how to deal with the beast. It’s going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better folks.

iceman1960 on August 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Not to bright are you chris. Airstrikes alone do not solve anything. They are not hiding in the mountains because one or two Muslim terrorists are threatening them. They are starving to death without food or water or supplies. That won’t change because of a few airstrikes.

Nobody is going to eliminate ISIS with a few airstrikes, nobody is going to take ISIS down in a few minutes or hours. The Yazidis are going to starve to death if they do not get food and water.

oscarwilde on August 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Both are needed to help the people escape. The West needs to do something to stop the genocide.

Illinidiva on August 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Our own little precious Nero.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 1:11 PM

About 40 children have already died from the heat and dehydration

Obama let children die, while he golfs.

If this were a Republican President, there would be calls in the press for his resignation every day until 2017.

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 1:11 PM

I’m all for airdrops.

On the lower reaches of the mountain.

Involving napalm on the ISIS jihadis.

ajacksonian on August 7, 2014 at 1:11 PM

ISIS’s persecution of the Yazidis may already amount to genocide or crimes against humanity as they’re being exterminated on sight as infidels apostates, without even the option to convert or pay jizya to reside in ISIS-occupied land.

Apostates? Infidels “of the Book” generally have the option of dhimmitude. Their monotheists, so they aren’t treated as pagans (slavery or death) under Shari’a. Their religion incorporates some Islamic beliefs, so that might qualify them as apostates.

Or it could be that the ISIS thugs just enjoy the slaughter.

novaculus on August 7, 2014 at 1:14 PM

About 40 children have already died

Why aren’t GOP congressmen standing on the steps of the capitol demanding action?

What a disgusting party.

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM

What would it take to privately hire some jets (probably volunteer crews of ex-Air Force theater airlift bubbas), buy some weapons and ammunition, along with some food and water, and put on your own airdrop to these folks?

Koch brothers? The Donald? Anyone with the funds to make it happen willing to take on the relief of these folks without a “foreign policy” to back them up?

GWB on August 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Not to bright are you chris. Airstrikes alone do not solve anything. They are not hiding in the mountains because one or two Muslim terrorists are threatening them. They are starving to death without food or water or supplies. That won’t change because of a few airstrikes.

Nobody is going to eliminate ISIS with a few airstrikes, nobody is going to take ISIS down in a few minutes or hours. The Yazidis are going to starve to death if they do not get food and water.

Who said anything about a few airstrikes?

Also, the airstrikes will get ISIS away from the mountain. Dropping food and water is nothing but a band-aid that doesn’t solve the problem long-term. Airstrikes – a continuous effort of airstrikes – will solve that problem.

chrisbolts on August 7, 2014 at 1:18 PM

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Because no one is in D.C., they are all home trying to keep the jobs they don’t deserve.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 1:18 PM

weighing airdrops

The only drops Barry is thinking about involve his golf ball.

Brat on August 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Or it could be that the ISIS thugs just enjoy the slaughter.

novaculus on August 7, 2014 at 1:14 PM

I think we’ve seen more than enough proof of that – as with Hamas also.

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I don’t want to see American boots on the ground again in Iraq, especially if it has anything to do with “nation building.” But I must say that ISIS is attacking in mass, which is what the U.S. military can deal with effectively. In both Iraq and Afghanistan (and even Vietnam), any time the enemy massed, they were thoroughly destroyed. This is a perfect opportunity to provide both humanitarian aid and send thousands of terrorists to paradise.

ReaganWasRight on August 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM

GWB on August 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM

I’ll bet “The Lord of War” could put that together.
Someone call Nicholas Cage……

;)

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM

The Yezidis are the nicest group of pacifist devil appeasers you will ever meet. They believe that for good to happen, evil must be distracted. The Kurds have defended them for generations since the Yezidis were the original inhabitants of the region and taken up the Yezidi emblem as their own.

Barbarians out to kill pacifists.

Remember all that high sounding language of ‘Never Again!’ after WWII?

To the Left it is just a bunch of words said to make them feel good. When push comes to shove, they prefer to watch those who cannot resist and are innocent die. Watch who responds to try and say we should give no hint that there would be ‘American boots on the ground in Iraq’. Those are the ones that wish to see the innocent die and barbarism take over the planet. And those words have come from our very President.

ajacksonian on August 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Obama Schedule || Thursday, August 7, 2014

11:20 am || Delivers remarks and signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans’ Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014; Fort Belvoir, Virginia

4:00 pm || Meets with senior advisors

Looks like King Barky the Incompetent is on the job. Might even put in 4 hours today.

jukin3 on August 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Apostates? Infidels “of the Book” generally have the option of dhimmitude. Their monotheists, so they aren’t treated as pagans (slavery or death) under Shari’a. Their religion incorporates some Islamic beliefs, so that might qualify them as apostates.

Or it could be that the ISIS thugs just enjoy the slaughter.

novaculus on August 7, 2014 at 1:14 PM

They have end time prophetic beliefs and in their version of the last days which I’m sure this group thinks they are in, eventually dhimmitude will no longer be acceptable. Convert or die will be the only choice.

iceman1960 on August 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Here’s a bit more from Packer. Even if the Yazidis are saved, what happens then?

By Obama’s own admission, they should be picked up and flown here and granted asylum. He did not differentiate between them and the kids supposedly fleeing gang violence in Guatemala.

Johnnyreb on August 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM

The president, in meetings with his national security team at the White House on Thursday morning, has been weighing a series of options dithering as usual

Fixed it.

TarheelBen on August 7, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Can we get the Israelis to start bombing the Yazidis? Then the west might do something. Hell the media might even cover this genocide.

jukin3 on August 7, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I don’t expect Obungle to make a decision but where is NATO? Don’t they have leadership capable of doing anything.

crankyoldlady on August 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM

We should be air dropping ordinance on ISIS and malaki. That would help the Yazidis the most.

Rode Werk on August 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM

There is a reason that Obama is president at this time in history and we are seeing it unfold before our very eyes. We are witnessing the rise of the final beast with the mortal wound that was healed. The nations of the world will be dumbfounded as what to do and how to deal with the beast. It’s going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better folks.

iceman1960 on August 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM

And then….

Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him. [24] For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. [25] Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.

[26] If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not. [27] For as lightning cometh out of the east, and appeareth even into the west: so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

pannw on August 7, 2014 at 1:34 PM

SPOX for Apple says their ” manufacturing facilities would be hard pressed, but commit to being able to deliver 50,000 Ipods imbedded with Obama’s greatest speeches so these people could hear him speak before they die, and that Apple feels honored to receive the request from the White House, so much so that they will do it for free”

BobMbx on August 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

We should be air dropping ordinance on ISIS and malaki. That would help the Yazidis the most.

Rode Werk on August 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Pro Tip:

Ordinance: Laws and regulations

Ordnance: Stuff that goes boom

BobMbx on August 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Humanitarian airdrops would not happen without airstrikes to prep the area.

can_con on August 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

SPOX for Apple says their ” manufacturing facilities would be hard pressed, but commit to being able to deliver 50,000 Ipods imbedded with Obama’s greatest speeches so these people could hear him speak before they die, and that Apple feels honored to receive the request from the White House, so much so that they will do it for free”

BobMbx on August 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

If you used deduplication technology you could probably store all of Obama’s speeches in 64K of RAM. 128K if you want CD quality.

Most of them are the same stock phrases re-arranged, lots of uses of the words “I, Me, Mine, My”, whistling noises and “umms and ahhs”.

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Presumably, if they’re leaking to the Times now about deliberations, they’re finally planning on acting soon.

No, no , no. You’re forgetting that these are leftists. Talking about doing something counts just as much, if not moreso, as actually doing something.

rbj on August 7, 2014 at 1:44 PM

The group can either use the dam for energy, to power its new territory, or it can drown Iraq by blowing it up. Given the savagery they’ve shown already, replete with alleged beheadings of children, blowing the dam seems like a horrifyingly real possibility, especially if the tide of the war turns and the group wants to go out with a bang.

Or they might blow it up because it did not exist during Mohammed’s lifetime and promotes a lifestyle incompatible with the Koran and Sharia. Blowing the dam up would restore the valley to its “natural” state.

catsandbooks on August 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Obama Schedule || Thursday, August 7, 2014

11:20 am || Delivers remarks and signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans’ Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014; Fort Belvoir, Virginia

4:00 pm || Meets with senior advisors

Looks like King Barky the Incompetent is on the job. Might even put in 4 hours today.

jukin3 on August 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Lunch will run from 11:30 to 2 at least.

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Well, jim56, on another thread has already solved this one.

Couldn’t churches or charities have found a way to do the airdrops?

jim56 on August 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Yeah, I’m sure the Presbyterian Church could just mobilize its fleet of C-130′s.

TarheelBen on August 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

No, no , no. You’re forgetting that these are leftists. Talking about doing something counts just as much, if not moreso, as actually doing something.

rbj on August 7, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Exactly. The left counts talk, colored ribbons, bumper stickers, and now #HASHTAGS as action.

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Yeah, I’m sure the Presbyterian Church could just mobilize its fleet of C-130′s.

TarheelBen on August 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

“Hello, this is St. Stephens in Minneapolis. We’d like to charter an airplane. To Mosul. It’s in Iraq. Yes, the war zone. I have a question, do your jets have cargo unloading capabilities? Hello? Are you still there?”

TarasBulbous on August 7, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Who has said anything about ground invasion?

The problem with what Obama is doing is that he is just looking. How long can people live without water? These people need less talk and more action.

ReaganWasRight on August 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

We should be air dropping ordinance on ISIS and malaki. That would help the Yazidis the most.

Rode Werk on August 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Pro Tip:
Ordinance: Laws and regulations
Ordnance: Stuff that goes boom

BobMbx on August 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Considering what it does to our corporations, a few planeloads of the standard ordinance package from the IRS, OSHA, EPA, NLRB, DHS, and HHS would do far damage than the stuff that goes boom…..
So maybe RodeWerk had it right….

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 1:55 PM

iceman1960 on August 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM

I was referring to this situation:

A UN official told one paper that ISIS’s persecution of the Yazidis may already amount to genocide or crimes against humanity as they’re being exterminated on sight as infidels, without even the option to convert or pay jizya to reside in ISIS-occupied land.

They’re not being given any options. That treatment is reserved for pagans and apostates under Islamic law, if I recall correctly, and pagans at least can be enslaved.

novaculus on August 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Do you consider ISIS to be your enemy?

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 1:57 PM

2 AC130s on racetrack orbit and this goes away

PJ Emeritus on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Wrong, dumbass. Nobody is calling for a ground invasion. If Obozo wasn’t a worthless piece of crap he’d resupply the Peshmerga, relieve the Yazidis on the mountain top with food, water, and other supplies, and bomb the ISIS subhumans surrounding the mountain into hamburger. But he is a worthless piece of crap, so he won’t.

Walter Sobchak on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Who has said anything about ground invasion?

The problem with what Obama is doing is that he is just looking. How long can people live without water? These people need less talk and more action.

ReaganWasRight on August 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Exactly.
Now who thinks airstrikes will defeat ISIS?
It seems likely that Obama will move fwd on some sort of action here that will include airstrikes and humanitarian aid. Maybe in partnership with other nations.
But if it proves ineffective…then what?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Beyond sad. Where is the great statesman Bush? He should be front and center in the media right now, doing what he can to demand the world act. Instead, he hides in a room in Texas and paints.

Barky is less than useless too.

This Blood is on American hands.

Exninja on August 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 16m

Gloria Borger notes that this whole “an entire Iraqi people facing extermination in the most brutal way” thing is a nightmare for Obama.

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 6m

Honestly, if there wasn’t a ceasefire in Gaza, the press wouldn’t bat an eye the Yazidi’s would be completely on their own.

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:01 PM

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

How about he implements whatever the hell he’s going to do quickly or say he’s going to do nothing.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Wrong, dumbass. Nobody is calling for a ground invasion. If Obozo wasn’t a worthless piece of crap he’d resupply the Peshmerga, relieve the Yazidis on the mountain top with food, water, and other supplies, and bomb the ISIS subhumans surrounding the mountain into hamburger. But he is a worthless piece of crap, so he won’t.

Walter Sobchak on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Well , thinks-he’s-smart-person, if only all the folks at State and US Military only had you around just tell them their wrong about everything. They should be listening to the amateur hawks on con blog comment boards.
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verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

2 AC130s on racetrack orbit and this goes away

PJ Emeritus on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

NOW we’re talkin’!!!

How about a flight of B-52s to prep the area?

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Yeah, I’m sure the Presbyterian Church could just mobilize its fleet of C-130′s.

TarheelBen on August 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

“Hello, this is St. Stephens in Minneapolis. We’d like to charter an airplane. To Mosul. It’s in Iraq. Yes, the war zone. I have a question, do your jets have cargo unloading capabilities? Hello? Are you still there?”

TarasBulbous on August 7, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Why are y’all so ready to scoff? There was a time when private financiers did exactly this sort of thing. And there are folks who have the money to make it happen privately. Mostly, they just don’t care to do so.

(Yes, you could charter aircraft that could make an airdrop. You could easily get aircrews together from retired AF personnel. And you could get all the goods necessary, as well as the things required to have them survive the drop. Money is all you really need to make it happen.)

GWB on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Right, Gloria, it is so bumming him out that it messed up his swing.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

But if it proves ineffective…then what?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

So you never try anything if there is a risk of failure? If somebody doesn’t take action pretty soon, all that’s going to be needed is 40,000 body bags. Besides, air strikes and air lift are a win-win for Obama. If they work, he stopped a genocide. If it fails, he can at least say he did something.

ReaganWasRight on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Exactly.
Now who thinks airstrikes will defeat ISIS?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Airstrikes in support of a Peshmerga ground offensive could sure as hell beat ISIS. It’s the ONLY thing that can beat ISIS.

And in the short term, airstrikes on the ISIS forces surrounding the mountain could allow the Yazidi to escape.

Walter Sobchak on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Do you consider ISIS to be your enemy?

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Not acknowledging my straight forward question to you is no way to welcome me back verbaluce.

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

But if it proves ineffective…then what?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

It’s difficult to strategize knowing that the us government is being run by such a weak leader, but maybe Obama will come out and call ISIS irresponsible. That will help things.

corkie on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Who’s up for a ground invasion?
Because if that’s not what you’re arguing for, then what’s your beef with the options Obama/US Military is looking at?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM

So if you know so much, tell us all what he’s looking at – if it’s anything beyond the cut of the green for his next putt.

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Still though, I’m sure 0 can continue to count on her support. ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

dentarthurdent on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I would prefer a squadron of those “useless” A-10s

PJ Emeritus on August 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Exactly.
Now who thinks airstrikes will defeat ISIS?
It seems likely that Obama will move fwd on some sort of action here that will include airstrikes and humanitarian aid. Maybe in partnership with other nations.
But if it proves ineffective…then what?

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Rinse, lather, repeat.

Every time ISIS gathers in large numbers to mount an offensive send a welcoming wagon full of napalm and daisy cutters.

HumpBot Salvation on August 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

You could easily get aircrews together from retired AF personnel.

GWB on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I certainly think it could be done, but I’m not sure you understand the definition of easily.

corkie on August 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

This Blood is on American hands.

Exninja on August 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

No! It is not on American hands! The blood is entirely on the hands of those murderers in ISIL. It is NOT my responsibility to save every oppressed person in the world. Their blood is NOT on my hands, regardless of whether Obama does anything or not.

GWB on August 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Well , thinks-he’s-smart-person, if only all the folks at State and US Military only had you around just tell them their wrong about everything. They should be listening to the amateur hawks on con blog comment boards.

verbaluce on August 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

WTF do you know about it, moron? You know NOTHING about it. You’re a brain dead cultist idiot who would defend the worthless piece of crap Obozo if he got caught on tape molesting a bunch of kids.

Walter Sobchak on August 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

I would prefer a squadron of those “useless” A-10s

PJ Emeritus on August 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Nothing quite like the sound of it coming in over your back.

Bmore on August 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM

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