Kurdish TV: U.S. bombs ISIS targets in Iraq; Update: Airdrops to stranded Yazidis begin

posted at 5:21 pm on August 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

True or false? The Times thinks it’s solid enough to relay the news:

American military forces bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq on Thursday night to rout Islamist insurgents who have trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in Kurdish areas, Kurdish officials said.

Word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington.

Kurdish officials said the bombings targeted fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria who had seized two towns, Gwer and Mahmour.

The Pentagon says it’s nonsense:

Okay, but (a) administration sources told the Times earlier that the White House was considering airstrikes, (b) the Kurds were reportedly reaching out to Turkey for airstrikes too, and (c) the Pentagon might have good reason to deny this even if it’s true, namely, if other operations against ISIS are in motion. Kurdish TV may have tipped off the enemy before it was supposed to.

Let’s get a thread up now, as events are moving fast. Updates to come.

Update: How dire is the situation in Kurdistan?

Kurdish fighters scrambled to set up a defensive line Thursday after militants from the Islamic State seized four strategic towns on a key highway and advanced to positions just minutes from Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region

[Kurdish military commander Rosg Nuri] Shawess, who also is a member of the Iraqi government’s national security council, called the situation “extremely critical” as he examined the foremost strong point along the highway. He described the Kurdish military plight as “too much distance to protect, with too few men and not enough weapons.”

“The Americans keep saying they will help us,” he added as surveillance planes or drones, likely American, circled far above the clouds. “Well, if they plan to help they had better do it now.”

The Yazidis starving on Mount Sinjar is bad, ISIS seizing the Mosul Dam is worse, and ISIS overrunning the one solid ally America has in the region is probably worst of all. Maybe the threat to Irbil finally convinced Obama to act. I’m honestly shocked that the jihadis could have the peshmerga so far back on their heels that the capital of Kurdistan could be under threat, but maybe that’s my own ignorance showing. If the Kurds aren’t going to push ISIS back, though, who is? Turkey? The Saudis?

Update: Here we go.

Update: The Turks are in the air too:

Update: And now the Pentagon’s denying the airdrops too, even though ABC’s source is a U.S. official.

Why deny it if it’s happening? What else is going on that might give the Pentagon a reason to play dumb for awhile?

Update: Are we going to play pretend, like it was the Iraqi air force who did this?


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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 10s

If we get a WH announcement tonight on Iraq, will be after 745pm. Press office just gave reporters a “dinner lid.”

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

FNC from WH … Reporting some supplies going in.
True ??

pambi on August 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

How many campaigns have been won by airstrikes alone?

formwiz on August 7, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

8 weight on August 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM

If we get a WH announcement tonight on Iraq, will be after 745pm. Press office just gave reporters a “dinner lid.”

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

What’s a dinner lid?

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Thank Mother Gaia that we have you to keep us sane and in line, we would be lost otherwise.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Why deny it if it’s happening? What else is going on that might give the Pentagon a reason to play dumb for awhile?

Because if it turns to $hit, Obama wants this option left open.

That’s just how his entire Admin operates..

BigWyo on August 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Greta has Bolton & Ollie North.

pambi on August 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

So where are the liberals in protecting the land of these people? Talk about a theft of land. Gaza my arse.

CW on August 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

8 weight on August 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Nope, read page one.

cozmo on August 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Thank Mother Gaia that we have you to keep us sane and in line, we would be lost otherwise.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Thanks.

Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Kids’ heads are being cut off and put on youtube.

Schadenfreude on August 7, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Sickening.

I love it.
Like little ladies complaining across the back yard fence. You go from thread to thread at the speed of light, complaining that the administration is afraid to do this or that and then as soon as it possibly does this or that, you’re complaining that it won’t do that and this.
And I have two tabs open, one on each Hot Air topic, and flipping back and forth between the tabs is like watching psychotic animation.
“He’s not going to do this, he’s not going to do that. He did this, it should have been done another way. How come he’s not doing it this way?”
I certainly don’t like this administration, nor do I agree with much of anything they do or say, but still, if these subjects weren’t so serious and tragic, I’d be laughing my ass off right now.
Everyone… get a grip.
Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I don’t completely disagree that sometimes in people’s haste to criticize Obama, they can go to far. That’s the nature o politics, unfortunately – we all have the capacity to go on “autopilot” sometimes in our criticism – an unfortunate aspect of human nature.

However, to a certain extent, Obama has brought this on himself, with what is quite frankly a rather bizarre and counterproductive public posture on this. Statements like “there are no military solutions” during a GENOCIDE is not going to inspire a measured criticism.

If he’s intervening with humanitarian support, and with air support, that’s wonderful. Frankly, though, by being so coy about it, he’s not just giving his more energetic critics a chance to assume bad faith – he’s denying the US as a whole a chance to restore our precious international standing that he and others have been fretting about so much.

There is an opportunity in the birth of ISIS for the United States to help coordinate a coalition of Shiites, Kurds, and non-ISIS affiliated Sunnis to beat back these savages. It looks like he may be doing some of that behind the scenes, but he needs to be more open about this.

Right now, there’s a lot of confusion about what he actually is trying to accomplish with his foreign policy. As long as he keeps fostering that with his bizarre public statements and dubious diplomatic posture, his critics are quite naturally going to assume the worst.

RINO in Name Only on August 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Thank Mother Gaia that we have you to keep us sane and in line, we would be lost otherwise.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Well, he does know all. Like a g-d, almost.

CW on August 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM

How many campaigns have been won by airstrikes alone?

formwiz on August 7, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

8 weight on August 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM

As noted earlier, I believe a naval war had to be won and a lot of islands taken before we were in a position to do that.

PS It still took them 5 days to make up their minds, so a lot of historians will tell you it wasn’t just the A-bombs, but Russia’s entry into the war.

formwiz on August 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Thanks.

Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

No problem, we need adult figures to stand above it all and tell us chillins to put away our childish things.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Rear Adm. John Kirby ✔ @PentagonPresSec
Follow

Press reports that US has conducted airstrikes in Iraq completely false. No such action taken.

So has this Rear Adm. John Kirby resigned in protest of U.S. impotence and/or depraved indifference?

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

be nice if we had a few thousand of these to help out..
(our government DOD (BHO) did not fund this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqj5fNBBqnA

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

What’s a dinner lid?

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Key West Reader: Its good to see ya, I do not know:)

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

How many campaigns have been won by airstrikes alone?

 
Um, ww2 japan rings a bell. Not “alone”, but largely due to airstrikes and firebombings, two in particular strike a chord as definitive winners of a war.
 
triple on August 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM

 
Y’all have to admit it’s pretty neat to have watched, over the last five years, our (D)s defend and support Gosnell, exponential increases in NSA spying, children killed in drone strikes, a weaponized IRS, monitoring and reporting free speech to restrict Constitutional freedoms, blatant disregard for abiding by the law by the heads of government agencies, secret lists and preventable VA deaths, bombing sovereign nations, massive and unconstitutional Executive overreach, restriction of women’s medicine choices, and now indiscriminate civilian deaths by fire and nukes.

rogerb on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Hook, line and sinker. Congrats. Haven’t seen a performance like that in a long time.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Iraqi Air Force? They really expect us to believe that bull?

eski502 on August 7, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Obama Flashback: “We’re Leaving Behind A Sovereign, Stable, Self Reliant Iraq

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014

…thanks to George W. Bush.

Of course, Obama would never admit THAT.

Steve Z on August 7, 2014 at 7:17 PM

And for its part, what is the Vatican doing besides issuing an urgent appeal? Francis has a diplomatic corps, humanitarian funds, aircraft. Why not lead by example?

Happy Nomad on August 7, 2014 at 6:41 PM

As for Declaring a Crusade…The last Crusade a Pope declared was in 1517.0 France and Spain bailed and decided to squabble with each other, The leaders of the Reformation were unfavourable to the crusade, and Luther declared that it was a sin to make war upon the Turks because God had made them His instruments in punishing the sins of His people.

That is a historical fact.

Ever since then the later Crusades have been organized by various heads of various states not the Pope…but were still mostly defensive wars against invasion Islam….The last being the defense of Vienna by the King of Poland.

“In reality the Crusades continued until the end of the seventeenth century, the crusade of Lepanto occurring in 1571, that of Hungary in 1664, and the crusade of the Duke of Burgundy to Candia, in 1669. A more scientific division is based on the history of the Christian settlements in the East; therefore the subject will be considered in the following order:

I. Origin of the Crusades;
II. Foundation of Christian states in the East;
III. First destruction of the Christian states (1144-87);
IV. Attempts to restore the Christian states and the crusade against Saint-Jean d’Acre (1192-98);
V. The crusade against Constantinople (1204);
VI. The thirteenth-century crusades (1217-52);
VII. Final loss of the Christian colonies of the East (1254-91);
VIII. The fourteenth-century crusade and the Ottoman invasion;
IX. The crusade in the fifteenth century;
X. Modifications and survival of the idea of the crusade.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm

workingclass artist on August 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

6 hours till the cease fire ends in Israel…

someone ready Golf Cart One…its tee time..!!

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Always enjoy your posts, my friend! Good to see you too :)

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

6 hours till the cease fire ends in Israel…

someone ready Golf Cart One…its tee time..!!

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Hah! Golf Cart One. Love it!!!

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Press reports that US has conducted airstrikes in Iraq completely false. No such action taken.

So, the other options are..

- NATO made the strikes
- US sent cruise missiles
- US conducted drone strikes
- 5 minutes later we conducted the strikes
- Obama still on the 7th hole, and taking lots of shots

Lots of possibilities here.

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Yet we can’t defend our own borders with so much as a can of mace.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Why is no one calling them on the idea that the “Iraqi Air force” carried out these strikes. That is crap. It was us, and O just does not want to make it look like he’s “going back in” to Iraq.

eski502 on August 7, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Iraq crisis
5m
Editor’s note: A U.S. official told @*NN that fighter jets are in the air over Iraq for protection as planes prepare to do a humanitarian airdrop to refugees. We’re watching for more information. – Jillian
Read more on edition.*nn.com

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Always enjoy your posts, my friend! Good to see you too :)

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

KWR: ——:)

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Yet we can’t defend our own borders with so much as a can of mace.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Yeah… against these “children”.

Ugh

Key West Reader on August 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Dont know how reliable the source is, but Obama may have waited til someone else accomplished something (YPG=Kurdish People Protections Unit,):

“+++16:15 pm+++YPG units save 1000 refugees

YPG units managed to get to the refugees on the Shingal mountains and evacuate a thousand of them. The rescue operations are still ongoing

+++14:50 pm+++ The Yezidi reporter Berekat Isa and Rudaw anchor burst into tears after describing the disastrous situation of Yezidi refugees

+++14:40 pm+++ Peshmerga, YPG, PKK, YBS and YPU have started a large-scale offensive against the terrorists in Shingal

+++14:20 pm+++ PKK units kill 30 terrorists in Yezidi village

PKK units have killed more than 30 IS terrorists during an operation in the Yezidi village of Gohl Bel north of the Shingal mountains. Gohl Bel is located nearby Sinune and belongs to the villages that had been attacked before the takeover of Shingal

+++13:30 am+++YPG and YBS fighters liberate Dugure

According to information we have received from our correspondents YPG and YBS (Shingal´s Protection Unit) fighters have liberated the village Dugure in Shingal. The fighters are advancing, more villages are expected to be liberated

http://ezidipress.com/en/?p=181

Zaggs on August 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

when do we get to use the word…ObamaHitler..
too soon??

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 36s

Further, Pres Obama considering airstrikes against ISIS forces in Iraq posing a threat to US personnel in Erbil.

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 30s

From CBS’ David Martin: As approved by Pres Obama, air drops of food and water underway on the mountain where the Yazidis are stranded.

https://twitter.com/markknoller

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Iraqi Air Force? They really expect us to believe that bull?

eski502

Over the last month they’ve beefed it up with close support aircraft from Iran, Russia and Belarus (they need to buy from who ever is selling and offering overnight delivery), and the aircraft were in the Iraqi Air Force before, so it is possible.

Zaggs on August 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Be Back,…..grandsons popped by———————-:)

canopfor on August 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Hook, line and sinker. Congrats. Haven’t seen a performance like that in a long time.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Thanks. I’m glad I could help Bishop out.

Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM

when do we get to use the word…ObamaHitler..
too soon??

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Obama is closer to Neville Chamberlain than Hitler.

BigAlSouth on August 7, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Zaggs on August 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Thanks for the link … you left out the parts about Yezidi women being raped, killed, and sold as slaves though.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Nope, read page one.

cozmo on August 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

I read it & stand corrected. I went for the easy, lazy answer.

8 weight on August 7, 2014 at 7:35 PM

As john wayne says in the longest day…send’em to hell

jaywemm on August 7, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Looks like France might have goaded Obama to do something…France had earlier pledged to offer refugees asylum…

“French President Francois Hollande on Thursday pledged his country’s “support” to forces battling Islamist militants in Iraq amid growing Western concern over an advance by Islamic State fighters.

“The president confirmed that France was available to support forces engaged in this battle,” Hollande’s office said in a statement, after the French leader spoke about Iraq by telephone with the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Massud Barzani.

Hollande did not specify what form the “support” could take.

Hollande and Barzani “expressed their willingness to cooperate to block the offensive carried out by the Islamic State in the north-east of Iraq,” the statement added.

At France’s request, the UN Security Council is to hold an emergency meeting on Iraq later Thursday, after Islamist militants seized the country’s largest Christian town.

Exxon and Chevron has pulled staff from Kurdistan.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/french-socialist-leader-hollande-pledges-military-support-to-iraq-to-fight-isis/

workingclass artist on August 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Yet we can’t defend our own borders with so much as a can of mace.

Bishop on August 7, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Jesus…now you want to Mace children…

#)$*ing winger..

BigWyo on August 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Michelle Obama Talks To Wives of Africa’s Dictators

The importance of Africa is very personal to me because, as the President said last night in his toast, Africa is home for us,’ she said. ‘His family is there. We have relatives there. We have visited the continent on several occasions. We have taken our daughters back to his grandfather’s village and they have seen a part of themselves.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Obama is closer to Neville Chamberlain than Hitler.

BigAlSouth on August 7, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Inside the border he’s Adolf. Outside he’s Neville.

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Obama is closer to Neville Chamberlain than Hitler.

BigAlSouth on August 7, 2014 at 7:29 PM

come on now…Neville actually went and ate lunch with the man,,,
Brave Sir Barry is driving Golf Cart One down some fairway..
(I was just taking a cheap poke at the progs..)

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Obama is closer to Neville Chamberlain than Hitler.

BigAlSouth on August 7, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Neville Chamberlain abroad, Hitler at home.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 7:39 PM

when do we get to use the word…ObamaHitler..
too soon??

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I’m still waiting on the go ahead to call him “Chimpy”.

I mean, sauce for the goose…

JohnGalt23 on August 7, 2014 at 7:42 PM

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Perhaps she could help out in Liberia. Her last job was at a hospital, IIRC.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Inside the border he’s Adolf. Outside he’s Neville.

faraway on August 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Bingo.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

The importance of Africa is very personal to me because, as the President said last night in his toast, Africa is home for us,’ she said. ‘His family is there. We have relatives there.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM

His family is there. We have relatives there … … and living in abject poverty because rich Barry and rich Mouch won’t even give them their pocket change!

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 7:49 PM

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

It’s a stunning statement to come from a sitting President of the United States and equally stunning to see it affirmed and repeated by the First Lady of the United States.

I’ve never heard a single President ever make such a statement, other than this President.I’ve never heard or read of any First Lady making such a statement.

While others have praised other nations to one degree or another, or mentioned that they had relatives in another nation, I have never heard any other President even suggest that any other nation other than the United States was their home.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

How long are going to allow the world to descend into absolute chaos and anarchy before we remove the incompetent bonehead at the helm of the world’s greatest superpower? Our forces can only act on his command. It is a command that will never come. How many innocent civilians will die because of his paralysis to make a key command decision?

Dan_NV on August 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Indeed, some of them are, others, however, like his grandmother and uncles, spent the Haj as guests of the Saudi Royal family.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:51 PM

as the President said last night in his toast, Africa is home for us,’ she said. ‘His family is there. We have relatives there. We have visited the continent on several occasions.

Starting when Obama was first elected to the U.S. Senate.

And every “family trip” to explore their “homeland” and meet their relatives has been paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

But it’s undoubtedly raaaaacist to point that out.

AZCoyote on August 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

This campaign won’t need to be won by air power alone. We HAVE boots on the ground – our Kurdish allies in the Peshmerga. Give them arms and ammunition, support them with our air power and they will stop ISIS cold. The Kurds aren’t the cowards of the Iraqi Army – they can fight. My brother saw that firsthand with the 25th ID in Mosul. Support them and they will win.

Slab Bulkhead on August 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Thanks for the link … you left out the parts about Yezidi women being raped, killed, and sold as slaves though.

gh

You’re welcome. Sad thing is I thought that was more common knowledge than perhaps it is. The one good thing about ISIS is that they could be what finally brings Iraq together as a whole. Usually when facing that kind of evil most grudges goes right out the window and people join together to defeat it. For the first time in who knows how long the Iraqi government is actively arming and aiding the Pesmerga.

Zaggs on August 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Perhaps she could help out in Liberia. Her last job was at a hospital, IIRC.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Moochelle and Valerie who were both on the Hospital Board conspired to kick the poor people down the road to other crummier hospitals to save U of C money and so it was. They got caught. Moochelle only had that $300K job for about a year…real success story. Ever read her thesis from her senior year at Princeton?… it’s stored in the anus of history.

gracie on August 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

I would be interested to know if that statement was
in the prepared text.. or off the cuff…

you are right either way.. it’s a pretty shocking phrase to say

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Slab Bulkhead on August 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

you might be right..
I know when I was in a schoolyard scuffle..
I always was braver when both my big brothers were behind me..
and not so brave when they were not…

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:58 PM

I’m honestly shocked that the jihadis could have the peshmerga so far back on their heels that the capital of Kurdistan could be under threat, but maybe that’s my own ignorance showing.

Apparently, it has a lot to do with the gold and dollars they pirated out of the bank in Mossel — that much cash buys a lot of fighters.

Count to 10 on August 7, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Update: And now the Pentagon’s denying the airdrops too, even though ABC’s source is a U.S. official.

Why deny it if it’s happening? What else is going on that might give the Pentagon a reason to play dumb for awhile?

Update: Are we going to play pretend, like it was the Iraqi air force who did this?

I’d put my money on the Turks.

Count to 10 on August 7, 2014 at 8:03 PM

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 7:55 PM

When you first couched the question regarding whether the statement was ad lib or not my first response was ‘probably ad lib’ simply because speech writers for politicians usually have a pretty clear idea of issues or sentiments to avoid, however, after thinking about who these particular writers are writing for it occurred to me that this may not be the case.

I don’t know, one way or the other, about whether the text was the advent of a speech writer or if it was an ad lib. I do know that I found it profoundly disturbing to see it come from the First Lady of the United States of America and for her to attribute it to her husband’s address to the African dictators, human rights violators, and homophobes he’d invited to the White House.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

This campaign won’t need to be won by air power alone. We HAVE boots on the ground – our Kurdish allies in the Peshmerga. Give them arms and ammunition, support them with our air power and they will stop ISIS cold. The Kurds aren’t the cowards of the Iraqi Army – they can fight. My brother saw that firsthand with the 25th ID in Mosul. Support them and they will win.

Slab Bulkhead on August 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Sounds like a very reasonable plan which means with Obama you can pretty much rule it out.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

This military action isn’t going to help solve anything. The Obama admin already said that there’s no military solution to the problem.

corkie on August 7, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Apparently, it has a lot to do with the gold and dollars they pirated out of the bank in Mossel — that much cash buys a lot of fighters.

Count to 10

Don’t forget about the US weapons they captured after taking over Mosul. The Peshmerga isn’t that well armed. Reading the following article describing at best one major defensive position with the Kurds armed with a few .50 cal machine guns, 1 ancient tank, and a few RPG’s. Plus they’re defending nearly 1000 miles of front. Supposedly Maliki’s government will allow direct arms transfers to the Kurds.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/07/235716/islamic-state-pushes-back-kurdish.html

Zaggs on August 7, 2014 at 8:07 PM

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

as always, wonderfully explained…ty
I thought it odd also that it was in the prepared text..
it has to be someone’s job to keep her from saying such things..
but as you say…these are different folks were dealing with in the WH…

going2mars on August 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

her husband’s address to the African dictators, human rights violators, and homophobes he’d invited to the White House.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM

“It’s not the content of ones character but the color of ones skin”.
isn’t that what Martin Luther King said? No wait, he said the exact opposite. Well, it’s easy to get that reversed … … if you are Barack Obama.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM

You can bet Putin is watching developments in Iraq and with the Kurds very closely tonight.

All that lies between Russia and ISIS are the Kurds and Turkey. Putin’s latest acquisition, Crimea, lies just across the Black Sea from the shores of Turkey, and to the eastern end of the Black Sea a large Muslim population lives in Georgia, Chechnya, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Dagestan, et al.

Should ISIS blow through the Kurds and then Turkey, nothing stands between them and linking up with the Muslims who already trouble Russia. As a matter of fact, should ISIS make it as far as the border of Turkey, many to the north and east would doubtless join them.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM

It’s sad, and such a massive irony, that it should be Barack Obama who ends up making a mockery of all that Dr. King accomplished.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent (stupid “nation building” in Iraq and Afghanistan), other chieftains (ISIS) will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue. - Sun Tzu

However, this would not take much. Just arm the Peshmerga. The U.S. already armed ISIS one way or another.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 8:24 PM

I love it.

Like little ladies complaining across the back yard fence. You go from thread to thread at the speed of light,

complaining that the administration is afraid to do this or that and then as soon as it possibly does this or that, you’re complaining that it won’t do that and this.

And

I have two tabs open, one on each Hot Air topic, and flipping back and forth between the tabs

is like watching psychotic animation.

“He’s not going to do this, he’s not going to do that. He did this, it should have been done another way. How come he’s not doing it this way?”

I certainly don’t like this administration, nor do I agree with much of anything they do or say, but still, if these subjects weren’t so serious and tragic, I’d be laughing my ass off right now.

Everyone… get a grip.

Walter L. Newton on August 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM

LOL :p

S. D. on August 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

A couple plane loads of Sensor Fuzed Weapons would do wonders to that crowd.

BobMbx on August 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

LOL :p

S. D. on August 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Heh!

shaloma on August 7, 2014 at 8:30 PM

However, this would not take much. Just arm the Peshmerga. The U.S. already armed ISIS one way or another.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 8:24 PM

I agree, arming the Peshmerga is the best tactic at this point. I will say, though, that pulling out arbitrarily, leaving Iraq a nation already on the brink of a full blown civil war, a military infrastructure that was unstable, poorly trained and lacking cohesion or a stable chain of command, with a shady governance, after promising to make them “sovereign, stable, and self-reliant” went a long way toward causing the situation we see unfolding there today.

Barack Obama will have to take responsibility for what has transpired in Iraq since his precipitous departure, just as he sought to take credit for it at the time.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:32 PM

This is so pathetic and infuriating

jp on August 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I’ve never heard a single President ever make such a statement, other than this President.I’ve never heard or read of any First Lady making such a statement.

While others have praised other nations to one degree or another, or mentioned that they had relatives in another nation, I have never heard any other President even suggest that any other nation other than the United States was their home.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Well, would it be too much to ask that they move there and NEVER return to the land called America?
He can build his presidential library ( as small as it will be due having very few accomplishments to put on display), and Mooch can go around telling the real African people how to eat and raise their children. Yep that would work for me. :)

Bakokitty on August 7, 2014 at 8:52 PM

ISIS columns need the Israeli air treatment.

J.B. Say on August 7, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Well, at least they won’t die thirsty.

Airdrops of water? Really Obama?

Could it really be the Turks are involved? Can’t be?

Turkey Vows it is Behind Erbil as Western Support Begins to Surge

Marcus Traianus on August 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Fox News just announced that Jackass will be making a statement on this situation some time tonight.

slickwillie2001 on August 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

NobeLOL

On a more serious note, it would be great if we are bombing ISIS! Just not so great for the legacy of Mr. Nobel and Mr. Nobel WannaBe (aka Lurch)

shanimal on August 7, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Ever read her thesis from her senior year at Princeton?…

gracie on August 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM

I looked at it. Wasn’t interesting enough to be read.

gh on August 7, 2014 at 9:09 PM

(Water-)Bombing brown people.

Glenn Jericho on August 7, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Lt Gen on Fox says we should not miss this opportunity to use air power.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Live presser now.

wolly4321 on August 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Isn’t bombing an act of war?

BDavis on August 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Lt Gen on Fox says we should not miss this opportunity to use air power.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

That’s the moron that went on for days that the Malaysian airliner was hiding in Pakistan. He is a loony toon.

oceansidecon on August 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

The cowardly keepers of the purse strings should take the money Barky’s spending on his Rebuild the Caliphate Program and give it to those actually fighting for freedom from islam–the Peshmerga.
The best solution for a horrendous disaster caused by the Dog Eater himself.

AppraisHer on August 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

How much you wanna bet the theme of Obama’s speech tonight will be:

“I, Obama, stopped ISIS!”

Then the MSM will have a massive orgasm…

William Eaton on August 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Targeted air strikes & water & food aid to IRAQ per Obama.
American Diplomats and others; directed targets if ISSI moves toward this area (Irbil) Those on the mountains will receive aid.
ISSI will slaughter them and this is genocide. The people have a choice of violence or starve to death. Authorized strikes to help.
Planes already on the way, America is coming to help. The UN agrees (my words) He won’t allow the U.S. to return to fight in Iraq. We can and should support forces to …. Iraq should come together so they can fight this threat. We will continue to work with our Allies to give aid.

That is the best I can do at the moment. He is now just talking.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM

On the Alexander thread.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM

Lt Gen on Fox says we should not miss this opportunity to use air power.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

That’s the moron that went on for days that the Malaysian airliner was hiding in Pakistan. He is a loony toon.

oceansidecon on August 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

I didn’t remember him for that:-) What he said tonight tho, made sense.

Fox just called it for Alexander. Guess the GOPe spoilers helped him. Grrrr

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Isn’t bombing an act of war?

BDavis on August 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Depends on who you are bombing, now, doesn’t it?

Count to 10 on August 7, 2014 at 9:42 PM

I agree, arming the Peshmerga is the best tactic at this point. I will say, though, that pulling out arbitrarily, leaving Iraq a nation already on the brink of a full blown civil war, a military infrastructure that was unstable, poorly trained and lacking cohesion or a stable chain of command, with a shady governance, after promising to make them “sovereign, stable, and self-reliant” went a long way toward causing the situation we see unfolding there today.

Barack Obama will have to take responsibility for what has transpired in Iraq since his precipitous departure, just as he sought to take credit for it at the time.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Leaving Iraq is one thing I don’t think we can pin on Obama. He did not leave in the 16 months that he repeatedly promised in his 2008 campaign. Instead he left on the timetable that was established by the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement and no sooner at all. Well maybe a few days sooner. Bush had said Iraq was a sovereign country and we would leave when they wanted us to. They evidently wanted us to leave as they demanded that they be allowed to try our troops in Islamic Courts as the price for renegotiating the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement for us to stay and have the great privilege of further serving Muslims. As for them being poorly trained, our military trainers trained them for many years. If they couldn’t learn in years what American troops take a few months to learn, that’s not our military trainer’s fault. Not our fault either that they basically gave so many of the nice weapons we gave them to ISIS. Besides, the American people were sick of Iraq by then after so many years.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Well, at least they won’t die thirsty.

Airdrops of water? Really Obama?

Could it really be the Turks are involved? Can’t be?

Turkey Vows it is Behind Erbil as Western Support Begins to Surge

Marcus Traianus on August 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Translation:

ISIS is about to mess up our sweet oil deal we had with the Kurds.

The Turks need to stop obsessing about their love affair with Hamas and start worrying about ISIS getting close to their border, and no doubt they have cells within Turkey. I mean Neo-Ottomans want to re-establish the Islamic superstate, but it is supposed to be a Turkish run enterprise not run by a bunch of Arabs and yahoo Chechen hicks!

William Eaton on August 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

When someone needs a 10 foot rope, Obama can be counted on to throw them a 5 foot rope.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM

BREAKING : Hamas violates ceasefire : At least 2 rockets fired towards Israel (form Gaza)

coolapic on August 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Lt Gen on Fox says we should not miss this opportunity to use air power.

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Ted Baxter had Weasely Clark on. Enough said about that.

slickwillie2001 on August 7, 2014 at 9:58 PM

William Eaton on August 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Turkey has other reasons for not wanting IS to defeat the Kurds. One of them is also very important to us. If IS decimates the Kurds, it may start going into Turkey. Article V of the NATO treaty could then be invoked, which would require our military intervention.

IS is an existential threat to all in the Middle East…and beyond.

Resist We Much on August 7, 2014 at 10:01 PM

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