Kurdish TV: U.S. bombs ISIS targets in Iraq; Update: Airdrops to stranded Yazidis begin

posted at 5:21 pm on August 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

True or false? The Times thinks it’s solid enough to relay the news:

American military forces bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq on Thursday night to rout Islamist insurgents who have trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in Kurdish areas, Kurdish officials said.

Word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington.

Kurdish officials said the bombings targeted fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria who had seized two towns, Gwer and Mahmour.

The Pentagon says it’s nonsense:

Okay, but (a) administration sources told the Times earlier that the White House was considering airstrikes, (b) the Kurds were reportedly reaching out to Turkey for airstrikes too, and (c) the Pentagon might have good reason to deny this even if it’s true, namely, if other operations against ISIS are in motion. Kurdish TV may have tipped off the enemy before it was supposed to.

Let’s get a thread up now, as events are moving fast. Updates to come.

Update: How dire is the situation in Kurdistan?

Kurdish fighters scrambled to set up a defensive line Thursday after militants from the Islamic State seized four strategic towns on a key highway and advanced to positions just minutes from Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region

[Kurdish military commander Rosg Nuri] Shawess, who also is a member of the Iraqi government’s national security council, called the situation “extremely critical” as he examined the foremost strong point along the highway. He described the Kurdish military plight as “too much distance to protect, with too few men and not enough weapons.”

“The Americans keep saying they will help us,” he added as surveillance planes or drones, likely American, circled far above the clouds. “Well, if they plan to help they had better do it now.”

The Yazidis starving on Mount Sinjar is bad, ISIS seizing the Mosul Dam is worse, and ISIS overrunning the one solid ally America has in the region is probably worst of all. Maybe the threat to Irbil finally convinced Obama to act. I’m honestly shocked that the jihadis could have the peshmerga so far back on their heels that the capital of Kurdistan could be under threat, but maybe that’s my own ignorance showing. If the Kurds aren’t going to push ISIS back, though, who is? Turkey? The Saudis?

Update: Here we go.

Update: The Turks are in the air too:

Update: And now the Pentagon’s denying the airdrops too, even though ABC’s source is a U.S. official.

Why deny it if it’s happening? What else is going on that might give the Pentagon a reason to play dumb for awhile?

Update: Are we going to play pretend, like it was the Iraqi air force who did this?


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Obama authorizes air strikes in north Iraq if IS moves toward Irbil.

coolrepublica on August 7, 2014 at 10:03 PM

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Ted Baxter had Weasely Clark on. Enough said about that.

slickwillie2001 on August 7, 2014 at 9:58 PM

I don’t watch Ted, LOL Arrogance is one trait that I can’t abide or brown nosers. Clark? Good grief. These so called experts get on my nerves.

Hannity has Netanyahu on now & that is someone with intelligence:-)

bluefox on August 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Obama authorizes air strikes in north Iraq if IS moves toward Irbil.

coolrepublica on August 7, 2014 at 10:03 PM

President Netanyahu to Obama: “Welcome to the party, pal!”

sentinelrules on August 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

President Netanyahu to Obama: “Welcome to the party, pal!”

sentinelrules on August 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

What country is Netanyahu president of? I miss that election. :-).

Just kiddin with you.

coolrepublica on August 7, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Well, at least they won’t die thirsty.

Airdrops of water? Really Obama?

Could it really be the Turks are involved? Can’t be?

Turkey Vows it is Behind Erbil as Western Support Begins to Surge

Marcus Traianus on August 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Translation:

ISIS is about to mess up our sweet oil deal we had with the Kurds.

The Turks need to stop obsessing about their love affair with Hamas and start worrying about ISIS getting close to their border, and no doubt they have cells within Turkey. I mean Neo-Ottomans want to re-establish the Islamic superstate, but it is supposed to be a Turkish run enterprise not run by a bunch of Arabs and yahoo Chechen hicks!

William Eaton on August 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Turkey lost the overland gas pipeline deal with the EU.

Putin continues to build his blacksea pipeline.

You’re right…Turks have a caliphate franchise thingy and they won’t give that up.

workingclass artist on August 7, 2014 at 10:11 PM

MASS SLAUGHTER By ISIS in Deir ez-Zor, Syria (Warning on Content)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com

workingclass artist on August 7, 2014 at 10:12 PM

I’m a bit worried about the dam. Might have been a job for a Seal Team.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2014 at 10:15 PM

AT LAST we are doing some good. Despite Obama.

ConstantineXI on August 7, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Insiders say that Obama will order massive air strikes and even several army divisions into action if ISIS invades northern Mexico and tries to shut off the flow of Mexicans and Central Americans into America.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Insiders say that Obama will order massive air strikes and even several army divisions into action if ISIS invades northern Mexico and tries to shut off the flow of Mexican and Central American future democrat voters into America.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 9:42 PM

You’re discussing legal, arbitrary, time tables and decisions made mostly by politicians. I’m discussing promises made to living, breathing human beings and made on the backs of US living human beings who are the ones who have to pony up the actual blood and treasure to back them up. I’m discussing the heart and soul of this nation and what we are in the world.

Politicians who make up our government are transitory. They come and go here by design. They make promises they know they will never have to honor and leave it to the American people to make good on those promises and establish and maintain this nation’s reputation, image, and place in the world.

Nation building was always a poor idea. Going to Iraq in the first place for the reasons we went was always a bad idea. The cost in American blood and treasure was never justified. But we legally elected those politicians who made that promise.

You may well say that people were ‘tired of Iraq’ and you’d be right, but leaving them on the brink of civil war, with a ridiculously inept military was reprehensible. Time tables be damned. The American people, if acquainted with the realities facing the real people of Iraq, related to them by a credible press, rather than the shaded partisan drivel and spin we regularly receive, would have said to make sure that the region was stabilized as best we could before pulling out, and then would probably have thought it might be a good idea to keep a smaller force there for a while, just in case, for contingencies like a rising organization like… ISIL. Not create a complete vacuum of power so that politicians could claim they’d cleaned up their mess.

I don’t particularly like the Iraqi people for many reasons including that tenet of Islam that pretty much calls for everyone who isn’t a Muslim to be beheaded, since they are predominantly Muslim of one stripe or another, and because of the blood and treasure they’ve already cost us and how ungrateful they’ve been for it, but they are human beings, none the less, and promises were made in our name by people we elected to represent us, none the less.

If we are to claim anything in the world, let us rightfully claim to be aware, and to be honorable in our dealings with others, and learn to be more careful about the character and caliber of those we elect to represent us and write those checks on our honor.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

MASS SLAUGHTER By ISIS in Deir ez-Zor, Syria

workingclass artist on August 7, 2014 at 10:12 PM

It’s time for a slaughter, all right. Go Marines!

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

If we are to claim anything in the world, let us rightfully claim to be aware, and to be honorable in our dealings with others, and learn to be more careful about the character and caliber of those we elect to represent us and write those checks on our honor.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

To me, ISIS crossed too many lines. This is what happens when the U.S. isn’t diligent. It’s time to wipe out the bloodthirsty fascists.

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Gee, now maybe the Obama lapdog media has to report on the ethnic cleansing of ISIS (Islam)

-or, they’ll find a way to tie it back to the poor bastards in Gaza, then back to another Palywood production, made for t.v.

Browndog on August 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

The Iraqi people elected Maliki and the American people elected Bush and they made the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement. We have given then plenty – almost 5,000 dead Americans, thousands of missing American limbs and over a trillion dollars of money that we don’t have. I do not consider America’s obligations to Iraq to be the closest thing to eternal life on earth.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

IS is an existential threat to all in the Middle East…and beyond.

Resist We Much on August 7, 2014 at 10:01 PM

And no matter what the U.S. does and no matter under what administration, goshdarnit, they just keep doing their thing. But we’ll keep doing the same stuff and expect a different result.

The Middle East has already extracted far more American blood and treasure than it’s worth. Worrying about this or that group elsewhere is a luxury we can no longer afford.

We’re not going to turn the Middle East (sans Israel, of course…guess they have a magical anti-radiation Iron Dome or something) into glass with nukes. These fanatics aren’t going away and we can’t kill them all. And even if we did, a new crop would arise out of the various cesspools that pass for the Levant’s version of Civilization.

Rome bled itself dry there…what makes us think we’ll be any more successful? Arrogance I suppose.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Good evening, John.

My conversation with VorDaj started a while up thread, but my point is exactly that we shouldn’t have pulled completely out of an unstable region, and because we did we allowed ISIS to become what it has become, although we did so inadvertently.

We should certainly help to wipe them off the face of the Earth for what they’re doing, but I think that the Iraqis, Kurds, Turks, and Syrians need to be part of that effort, since people value what they’ve paid for most.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I know your views on the region and this issue well, VorDaj. I’ve read your posts even though I rarely comment to you regarding them.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM

An Epic Expression of Failed COIN Strategy; Fallujah falls to Al Qaida Factions. [Jan 6, 2014]

“What is so damnably frustrating about this is that too many of us to list, foretold of this, years ago. And if there were any left in this country who still held onto the belief that either our civilian leadership or the left-listing General Grade Officers which populate the upper echelon of our Military structure were
somehow visionaries and intellectuals, this latest manifestation of a failure of foresight should hopefully drive a spike through the heart of that lingering belief.

These continued ill-advised efforts to massage the troubles of cultures in the Islamic world are proceeding with bad advice about those cultures and their religion and continue to threaten the well-being of American War Fighters who are continually compelled to act as a highly restricted police force rather than this nation’s Warrior Guard.

We have literally wasted the lives and the wellbeing of far too many of this generation, chasing after something that cannot be achieved; improved relations with a people who will only be satisfied when the last vestige of Infidel’s corpses are rotting in the ground.

VorDaj on August 7, 2014 at 10:33 PM

We should certainly help to wipe them off the face of the Earth for what they’re doing, but I think that the Iraqis, Kurds, Turks, and Syrians need to be part of that effort, since people value what they’ve paid for most.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

As with everything in this administration, nothing is as it seems. Delete emails, destroy hard drives, let Ambassador Stephens be slaughtered because you were running arms to the wrong side in Syria.

The fact that our special ops have been in two major Kurd cities for the last month says to me: intelligence, arms and training. Then, suddenly, Kurd fighters are liberating cities recently taken by ISIS and starting to evacuate those refugees on the mountain. This doesn’t happen by accident. Obama is trying to lead from behind to appease his Code Pink base, but things are going down.

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Obama authorizes air strikes in north Iraq if IS moves toward Irbil.

coolrepublica on August 7, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Why would he do that? There’s no military solution according to his own press secretary.

corkie on August 7, 2014 at 10:39 PM

It may be timely. It may be too late. But either way, have it in you Mr. President.

Mason on August 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 10:36 PM

I’d like to think Obama is at least moving in the right direction, even if it’s under the table, but I’d much prefer the United States be as open and above board in it’s dealings as possible in the world. We’re not on the same level as jihadists and we shouldn’t sink to their level because our President is worried about his base or an upcoming election.

If it was Putin ‘leading from behind’ this administration and the rest of the world would call it pursuing his interests using nefarious tactics.

Still, I’m glad to see that we’re letting the locals fight for themselves instead of just handing it to them. They’ll appreciate the cost of those victories if they have to earn them themselves. Some support is what they need, not a champion.

Beyond that, it spares US military personnel, and I’m all for saving American lives while ISIS is destroyed.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I absolutely agree with what we’re doing and I will be disappointed with any Conservative who tries to play politics with this. There is no sane, rationale argument against this. I dislike Obama as much as anyone, but there is zero to bash him for here.

In some ways, we’ve gotten as bad as the Dems/media were during Bush. Bashing just to bash. Conspiracies and what not constantly. Sometimes people just need to put that nonsense to the side. If you cant do so in a case like this, then you’re no better than the Democrats/Liberals are.

bucsox79 on August 7, 2014 at 11:03 PM

I have absolutely ZERO confidence that Obama has the will to win any war, or even any battle. Whether he involved us in this bombing or not (reporting is conflicting), he lacks the essentials of a stiff spine and leadership. He’s a chameleon and a cipher. In short, he’s a liberal progressive. On the world stage, he doesn’t want to lead, he wants to defer to feckless and useless institutions, dithering over cappuccino and parking spaces in NYC while Christians and other ‘unapproved’ minorities are slaughtered in the Middle East.

He’s useless. Absolutely useless.

xNavigator on August 7, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I absolutely agree with what we’re doing and I will be disappointed with any Conservative who tries to play politics with this. There is no sane, rationale argument against this. I dislike Obama as much as anyone, but there is zero to bash him for here.

In some ways, we’ve gotten as bad as the Dems/media were during Bush. Bashing just to bash. Conspiracies and what not constantly. Sometimes people just need to put that nonsense to the side. If you cant do so in a case like this, then you’re no better than the Democrats/Liberals are.

bucsox79 on August 7, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Yep…”Doing right ain’t got no end.”

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Beyond that, it spares US military personnel, and I’m all for saving American lives while ISIS is destroyed.

thatsafactjack on August 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Agreed.

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Progressives taking over America, ProgrISISives taking over Iraq.

Same story, different country.

Glenn Jericho on August 7, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Smart Diplomacy: help your allies. punish your enemies.

Everything else is just mutual masturbation.

Immolate on August 7, 2014 at 11:46 PM

I absolutely agree with what we’re doing and I will be disappointed with any Conservative who tries to play politics with this. There is no sane, rationale argument against this. I dislike Obama as much as anyone, but there is zero to bash him for here.

In some ways, we’ve gotten as bad as the Dems/media were during Bush. Bashing just to bash. Conspiracies and what not constantly. Sometimes people just need to put that nonsense to the side. If you cant do so in a case like this, then you’re no better than the Democrats/Liberals are.

bucsox79 on August 7, 2014 at 11:03 PM

I agree with what we’re doing too, but how long is it going to last? If ISIS has half a brain, they’ll borrow a page from the Hamas playbook and start setting up their artillery, weapons caches, ammo dumps and field bases at schools, hospitals, markets and other places that guarantee large numbers of civilian casualties when they’re targeted by our airstrikes. How will Obama react to the Paliwood drama gleefully broadcast 24/7 by our media when it’s our planes creating these images, and not Israeli ones?

Will he have the courage to continue to do the right thing when the liberals, who want nothing more than to let ISIS and other Islamic groups slaughter as many Christians, Jews, Kurds and members of other infidel groups as they possibly can, start marching outside the White House gate and in the streets of their blue enclaves, holding their “die-ins” and chanting their tired old slogans and waving their puppets around and dancing in their vagina costumes? When they start comparing him to Bush, or (quelle horror!) Netanyahu? I have serious doubts, and I think I’m perfectly justified in having those doubts.

Because if he’s not willing to see this through to the end, at least to the point of giving the groups ISIS is butchering a somewhat fair chance to fight back, then this is a pointless exercise in politics. ISIS can just hunker down in place surrounded by their human shields and wait Obama out, until the media rescues him again by uncaging a couple of dozen new squirrels for them to chase. And then once the public eye is turned away, they can just roll up the rest of the region like a cheap carpet.

Gator Country on August 7, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Why is the first thing to come out of this administration whenever an event happens is a lie? Tiresome.

bigGwillie on August 8, 2014 at 3:30 AM

Rome bled itself dry there…what makes us think we’ll be any more successful? Arrogance I suppose.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Rome didn’t bleed itself dry, it f***ed itself to death, partying its way to oblivion. It died when it ignored it’s military.

Count to 10 on August 8, 2014 at 7:00 AM

Did anyone watch his live speech?
He was giving a talk to the American people, but not once did he look straight into the camera.
His head wobbled back and forth, left and right, looking from teleprompter to teleprompter.

If one is going to talk to the American people on live camera LOOK DIRECTLY INTO the CAMERA!

Terrible.

albill on August 8, 2014 at 7:09 AM

What will Obama do? Why would anyone expect Obama to handle this crisis any differently than he has handled foreign affairs in the past: Every move against ISIS in Iraq/Syria will be controlled by the domestic political considerations attached to it.

His far leftist base is largely in command. How active can he become before they demand that he back off?

The tail, domestic politics and the dream of re-making America, wags this dog.

petefrt on August 8, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Rome bled itself dry there…what makes us think we’ll be any more successful? Arrogance I suppose.
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

What are you talking about? After Pompey and then Caesar subjugated Egypt the Nile river valley fed Rome for the next 300 years. And the other riches extracted from the Middle East kept Rome going financially. There’s a reason Constantine moved the base of the empire to Constantinople, thus beginning the Byzantine empire.

tommyboy on August 8, 2014 at 8:05 AM

Kurdish TV: U.S. bombs ISIS targets in Iraq; Update: Airdrops to stranded Yazidis begin posted at 5:21 pm on August 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

The lovely Shannon Bream reported that there was no bombing as of about 6:05 PM yesterday.

Akzed on August 8, 2014 at 9:20 AM

The Backseat President.

rightConcept on August 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Just wondering what the US Constitution would look like is the US Chamber of Commerce could write it?

Would THEIR flag fly over the White House?

PappyD61 on August 8, 2014 at 9:45 AM

It turns out that there are actually quite a lot of Kobe Bryants on that Jay-Vee team in Iraq.

Resist We Much on August 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM

I certainly hope that Obama had the sense to deny bombing until he started bombing. Why the heck give ISIS time to hide??

PattyJ on August 8, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Hey, hey Obamay how many kids did you kill today?

307wolverine on August 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM

From Drudge headline:

ISIS VOWS: ‘We will raise the flag of Allah in the White House’…

No need for duplicate effort. It was already done in January, 2009.

fred5678 on August 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Joe Biden said we have to send a message to the country of ISIS.

Moesart on August 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM

It turns out that there are actually quite a lot of Kobe Bryants on that Jay-Vee team in Iraq.

Resist We Much on August 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM

That is so perfect, my I use it on FB ?

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 11:24 AM

I certainly hope that Obama had the sense to deny bombing until he started bombing. Why the heck give ISIS time to hide??

PattyJ on August 8, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Many at HA take great offense at not being personally consulted and informed.
And fred5678 above wants the missiles fired directly at the White House.
.

verbaluce on August 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

If every Aegis-controlled ship the USN has in the area were to “accidentally” unload their Tomahawk stores, I wouldn’t complain – not at all.

PJ Emeritus on August 8, 2014 at 11:43 AM

With the GHWB in theater, it’ll be referred to as another Bush war.
Someone will say it, somewhere, sometime, I promise.

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM

With the GHWB in theater, it’ll be referred to as another Bush war.
Someone will say it, somewhere, sometime, I promise.

pambi on August 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM

LOL – you just did.
;)

dentarthurdent on August 8, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Many at HA take great offense at not being personally consulted and informed.

verbaluce on August 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

There is no military solution for Iraq.

And fred5678 above wants the missiles fired directly at the White House.

You want mass murder of all conservatives in the country.

corkie on August 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

“A Christian Holocaust is in our mist. We are actually calling this a Christian genocide… Day by day, it is getting worse and worse. More children are being beheaded. Mothers are being raped and killed. Fathers are being hung. Right now, 300,000 Christians are fleeing Iraq and living in neighboring cities.”

INC on August 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

NO people any where have ever gone to war with people any where else.

Wars are the creation of ideologies born only of Governments.

The process is as it always have been and always will be the same.

First select another people as the enemy.
Next Dehumanize the other people to justify killing them.
Finally declare that only you are human.

We are now in the Dehumanizing phase of the prelude to war.

Popular entertainment provides a window in to what the people of a country are truly like at a given place in time. Prior to WWII John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart were fighting the “JAPS” and “Nazi” in the 1930′s yet we were told to believe that Pearl Harbor was a surprise.

All that is meant by this is, the stories “We The People” are told and the realities of the the other “Peoples” often are in conflict.

We are only in the Dehumanizing phase of a prelude to War.

Be careful. This is maybe your only and final warring.

jpcpt03 on August 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM

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