Why can’t Rand Paul get his dad to stop sabotaging him?

posted at 2:41 pm on August 5, 2014 by Noah Rothman

I generally think Rand Paul is a positive influence on the Republican Party. From drug policy, to sentencing reform, to same-sex marriage; Paul’s libertarian views inform his hands-off position on a number of contentious social issues. Or, in his words, “I think Republicans could only win in general if they become more live and let live — ‘leave me alone.’”

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Paul’s prominence robs center-left youth of the ability to dismiss the GOP outright as either bigoted or theocratic. Paul forces the young voters to internalize and counter conservative and libertarian arguments on social policy – a development Democratic strategists are not happy about.

The Kentucky Senator is also an important thorn in the “Republican establishment’s” side. Paul recently endorsed Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) for reelection over his Chamber of Commerce-backed primary opponent. Amash, another outspoken libertarian politician who often adopts positions matters foreign and domestic contrary to Republican orthodoxy, is another benefit to the party. You don’t have to agree with either of these GOP politicians to appreciate that internal dissent and debate makes for a vibrant and healthy political movement.

But that equation changes when one of these divergent libertarian voices seeks to become the leader of his party and the President of the United States. Paul, like his father before him, clearly has designs on the White House, and he has been calibrating his position on a variety of issues in order to appeal to a broader universe of Republican primary voters.

For example, since the start of the most recent conflict in Gaza, Paul has been actively attempting to get on the right side of the majority of GOP primary voters by expressing his support for Israel insofar as that support comports with his support for American retrenchment. Writing in National Review recently, Paul insisted that the appropriate American response to the conflict was to cut off U.S. foreign aid to the Palestinian Authority.

But Hamas, not the Palestinian Authority, is responsible for the latest round of violence. The P.A. has been a relatively responsible actor in this conflict. Furthermore, this was not Paul’s first attempt to seek the end of foreign aid to the P.A… or, for that matter, Israel. Or the rest of the world. In fact, Paul has long advocated for the cessation of all foreign aid and assistance – a miniscule fraction of the federal budget. The senator’s about face on this issue is nakedly, transparently political. For a politician with aspirations for higher office, there is nothing remarkable about this.

However, it is clear that Paul’s natural instincts on foreign affairs are closer to those of his father, even if he is savvier at articulating his preferred policy solutions. Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), however, is as outspoken as ever and continues to display none of his son’s savoir-faire. The former Texas congressman’s views on foreign affairs are well outside the Republican mainstream, conspiratorial, and extraordinarily damaging to his son’s presidential ambitions.

Take, for example, Ron Paul’s most recent tinfoil hat theorizing (and by “most recent,” I mean yesterday). In this clip, the good doctor asks “Why won’t Obama just leave Ukraine alone?” He proceeds to embrace virtually every conspiratorial notion the Kremlin has advanced in order to absolve themselves of the blame they deserve for arming and assisting pro-Russian rebels who shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 on July 17.

Along with claiming that the global intelligence agencies which blamed Russia for providing Russian separatist with the SA-11 anti-air missile that took down MH17 had not been “proven,” he proceeded to suggest that the American accusation that Russia was guilty of “creating the conditions” which led to violence in eastern Ukraine is problematic.

“That is a dangerous measure of culpability, considering U.S. support for separatist groups in Syria and elsewhere,” Paul said.

This is a gross conflation of terms. The Kremlin seeks to create the equivalence between America’s support for moderate anti-Assad resistance fighters (who do not seek separatism, but seek merely to overthrow a genocidal dictator who happens to enjoy Moscow’s backing) and their support for separatist rebels in Ukraine. Paul is buying directly into Russian propaganda, and his son will have to answer for it on the campaign trail.

Again, this is merely the latest in a string of episodes in which the elder Paul has kneecapped his son by repeating dangerous anti-Western propaganda disseminated by the enemies of the United States. Republican primary voters will not stand for that, and Paul may be faced with the tormenting prospect of having to denounce his own father. Neither Paul could wish for that outcome, so why can’t Rand convince his father to keep his thoughts on international affairs to himself?


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If rand paul can’t handle his loony-tunes, anti-Semitic, racist senile father, how can he possibly handle the job of president any better than the current sorry-a$$ excuse?

MicahStone on August 5, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Because his dad is fundamentally a dick?

Blacksheep on August 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Rand probably didn’t fall as far away from Ron’s crazy tree as you’d like to believe.

That said, I do appreciate the libertarian-ness of his message generally.

lorien1973 on August 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal,

Who proceeded to Vote for Obama. TWICE!

Morons.

nobar on August 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM

LOL.

Rand Paul sabotages himself every time he opens his mouth – his daddy is the least of his problems.

Pork-Chop on August 5, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Sour grapes. The old fool thinks “I couldn’t be president, so I’m going to make sure that he isn’t either.”

slickwillie2001 on August 5, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Ask Freud.

corona79 on August 5, 2014 at 2:49 PM

No one can control Paul Pot and his Paulistinians.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Something about the 5th Commandment, maybe?

I feel for Rand. My dad is a lefty loon. But I put up with it because he is my father.

No Truce With Kings on August 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Even if you agree with Rand Paul that we should have a reduced military presence and strength, and on amnesty, realize that what’s critically important is that our candidate unify the party so we don’t have such a huge number of non-voters. Rand Paul isn’t the answer. Neither are the RINOs like Christie.

anotherJoe on August 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Who has ever been able to get their father to shut up?

Warner Todd Huston on August 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Rand should definitely be held accountable for the ramblings of his father, just as the press demanded Al Gore be held responsible for his father’s support of the KKK and opposition to Civil Rights.

After all, fair is fair.

Frank Lib on August 5, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Let’s cut out the “miniscule” BS about foreign aid.
One question:
What percentage of spending in the federal budget is on entitlements?

corona79 on August 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM

The Kentucky Senator is also an important thorn in the “Republican establishment’s” side.

No, he’s not. He’s a GOPe player, who dutifully jumped in to issue a slobbering endorsement of Mitch McConnell, in March of 2013, months before anyone else had announced a run for the seat.

Pork-Chop on August 5, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Along with claiming that the global intelligence agencies which blamed Russia for providing Russian separatist with the SA-11 anti-air missile that took down MH17 had not been “proven,” he proceeded to suggest that the American accusation that Russia was guilty of “creating the conditions” which led to violence in eastern Ukraine is problematic.

This is correct. Every time proof is asked, all that gets returned is twitter quotes.

“That is a dangerous measure of culpability, considering U.S. support for separatist groups in Syria and elsewhere,” Paul said.

Yep.

This is a gross conflation of terms. The Kremlin seeks to create the equivalence between America’s support for moderate anti-Assad resistance fighters

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA right.

SirGawain on August 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Everything you said about Rand is why I do not want him anywhere near the WH….Can not stand the guy and his libertarian ideas..And yes-I am a social and fiscal conservative…

Bullhead on August 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

The Kentucky Senator is also an important thorn in the “Republican establishment’s” side.

He seems to be all for the ultra-establishment climate change pushing amnesty shill Lamar Alexander: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/05/lamar-alexander-releases-ad-featuring-rand-paul/

Lamar voted for the Gang of 8 amnesty bill. Do whatever you can to help spread the word and defeat the establishment monster Lamar Alexander.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/08/04/Malkin-Blasts-Double-Talking-Weasel-Lamar-Alexander

anotherJoe on August 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

This is all kabuki theater. The final scene is little Randy telling his dad to just shut up. Proving that little Randy is a man in his own rite

meci on August 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Dad’s jealous.

Laura Castellano on August 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Mr Bradley Manning is a patriot Paul is a pile of sh*t.
I’m not a fan of Rand BUT I detest his dad.

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

I could never get into Ron Paul. There were a few ideas I liked, but overall I got a creepy grandpa feel from him and a VERY strong cult feeling from his followers. Rand is a step in the right direction, but he has problems of his own. But I definitely agree his dad is doing him no favors.

RblDiver on August 5, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Who has ever been able to get their father to shut up?

Warner Todd Huston on August 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM

you mean w/o felonies involved right? :)

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Well, based on the last two presidential election cycles, it seems to me that the media isn’t really interested in exploring the political ideology of a candidate’s father and are able to just simply look at what that individual candidate brings to the table without any comparison to the father’s politics. I am sure they will treat Rand the same.

underpants on August 5, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Conservatives don’t believe in the ‘live and let live’ philosophy? Rand, you just lost me for all time. We’ve been trying to live our lives without government attempting to destroy all that has been true for thousands of years. Destroy marriage as instructed by God? Done. Legalize every destructive drug known by man. OK. Hedonism all around? Good to go. Mainstream bestiality? Right on. Withdraw from the world? Well, most of it. Pay for all the resultant damage? Well, you conservatives have too much money, anyway.

vnvet on August 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Let’s cut out the “miniscule” BS about foreign aid.
One question:
What percentage of spending in the federal budget is on entitlements?

corona79 on August 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Not much at all.

Social Security and Medicare, the two biggest entitlements, are not budget items…

JohnGalt23 on August 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Who are the two porn actresses on The Cycle on MSNBC?

Realdemocrat1 on August 5, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Rand Paul does a pretty good job of sabotaging himself.

bw222 on August 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Could it be that he is just hiding his agreement with his father?

One more thing, let’s stop fooling ourselves that somehow Rand’s personal autoomy agenda is going to rope in the Millennials. Both the Reason and Pew polls show that Generation Null is firmly in favor of the nanny state. The nammy state is the giver of personal autonomy, not the free market Republic.

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Rand Paul wants to prove he’s not like his father, he has to do two things.

First, denounce Infowars/Alex Jones and their conspiracy nonsence.

Second, state that his father is wrong in accusing the U.S. of killing 100,000 1,000,000 Iraqis.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

However, it is clear that Paul’s natural instincts on foreign affairs are closer to those of his father, even if he is savvier at articulating his preferred policy solutions.

I think you meant, “even if he is better at obfuscating, for political gain, his replicated Ron Paul prefered policy solutions.” Same policy, better BS.

Ebola on August 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

..apples…trees…you know…

Ricard on August 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Rand Paul to Ron Paul: Dad, will you please STFU?

Steve Z on August 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

I don’t think Ron gives up his 1st amendment rights just because Rand might want to run for president…

What’s wrong with you people.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Does it matter? Rand Paul has already been making overtures to RINOs. We can expect him to be a Republican disappointment as president, should he get that far. His father matters little.

rickv404 on August 5, 2014 at 3:34 PM

I don’t think Ron gives up his 1st amendment rights just because Rand might want to run for president…

What’s wrong with you people.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

So, because it’s observed that the Father is inhibiting the Son in his presidential bid…the observers are insinuating the Father gave up his 1st Amendment rights? Let’s just skip to calling everyone racists. lol

Ebola on August 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Rand Paul and Ron Paul are two different people. That is why.

Rand Paul has a mind that belongs to rand Paul and Ron Paul has his own mind. Since they are not twins and don’t live under the same roof and are not psychically connected, they can’t share a brain.

I think rand Paul can use this to his advantage. The next phase would be to contrast his views to his father’s.

coolrepublica on August 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

VIDEO: Rand Paul attacks amnesty opponents: http://youtu.be/QLl5OeVAsfM

No wonder Noah Rothman, who supports illegal alien amnesty, likes Rand Paul.

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

No wonder Noah Rothman, who supports illegal alien amnesty, likes Rand Paul.

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Why don’t you understand that there is no perfect candidate that will follow your party line 100%? You are thinking like a totalitarian. I am tired of people calling Republicans who do agree them 100% a RINO. There are very few people who are RINOs. Most of them run as far to the right as they can in jurisdictions they live in. You know the real RINOs are? The faux Libertarians and the Kamikaze brigade.

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 3:50 PM

We need a comment editor. should read don’t agree 100%

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Why wouldn’t we put them on buses and send them home? We are putting them on buses and sending them all over the Country now, on our dime.

De Oppresso Liber on August 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Paul’s prominence robs center-left youth of the ability to dismiss the GOP outright as either bigoted or theocratic.
-Noah Rothman

Noah Rothman, who is pro-amnesty, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage and opposes conservatives, always expresses “concern” about what bad things the Left might say about conservatives. Rothman’s answer is always to avoid doing anything the left wing media might disapprove of.

It seems that Noah Rothman agrees with the notion that conservatives are bigoted. Here Rothman labels an article, which quotes HotAir commenters by name and which suggests that the commenters here are racist, “valuable commentary”:
https://mobile.twitter.com/OmnivoreBlog/status/487053073035309056

Rothman is wrong if he thinks Republicans should become even more like Democrats to better appeal to voters. Young Americans are more pro-life than their parents:
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/01/07/the-pro-life-generation-abortion-wont-be-around-long-if-young-americans-have-a-say/

Also, rather than embrace amnesty, Republicans should better explain why illegal immigration and amnesty hurt young Americans:
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/january-27-2010/new-study-shows-illegal-immigrations-impact-on-young-americans

“The fact is that illegal immigrants take jobs from American workers, particularly poor and disadvantaged citizens and legal immigrants. The best outcome for low-skilled citizen and legal immigrant workers is the removal of the illegal immigrant population. The very jobs that illegal immigrants occupy rightfully belong to out of work citizens and legal immigrants,” Ranking Member Smith added. “With 15 million Americans out of work, we need to enforce immigration laws and oppose amnesty for 12 million illegal immigrants. We must stand up for citizens and legal immigrants.”

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal,

What this means is “a generation of young people” who don’t have jobs; or if they do have a job, suddenly realized what all that FICA and withholding stuff amounts to. Plus they likum that liberal-tarian stuff; legal dope, free contraceptives and no-hassle abortions. Cheap and cheap, IYKWIM

The word conservative doesn’t really apply to them, but stupid does.

Millenials really don’t do small “l” libertarianism; instead they love they sum nanny government, at least in part because nobody told them it was a good thing to leave home and be a grownup.

Dolce Far Niente on August 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Why wouldn’t we put them on buses and send them home? We are putting them on buses and sending them all over the Country now, on our dime.
De Oppresso Liber on August 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Good question. We need to elect people who want to enforce immigration law.

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Ron and Rand are two slices off the same loaf of crazy bread. Both of them will go along saying sensible things until just when you start to think that maybe they aren’t so cray after all they suddenly take a hard right turn into Looneyville.

myiq2xu on August 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM

The odds are at some point during the 1980′s a young Rand Paul ‘worked’ for the “Ron Paul Newsletters” and reeived a pay check from it. Reason Mag already pulled 1 yrs Tax Documents and found that Paul’s sister and mother were on the Payroll that year.

Paul is by far the most unelectable GOP potential candidate in the field. Just do your homework on his history contrasted to how he presents himself the last few years along with a trip to the website and facebook page for the “Ron Paul Institute for Peace”.

side note: Ron Paul has proven himself this year to not be a ‘non-interventionist’ but rather a hard core Anti-American that loves Putin/Russian Intervention to the point of defending it on “International” Law.

jp on August 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Sorry, every time I look at Paul Sr. I see that “Always Angry Ex-GF playing with your car’s brake line” look in his eyes…

Which usually, is not as bad as the “Needs matching Restraining order to go with straightjacket” look he usually has.

Rand ISN’T that bad, but hey, run for President and lose 3-4 times in next 30 years, and maybe we’ll be changing the locks on the front doors of Congress too…’Just in Case’.

BlaxPac on August 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I generally think Rand Paul is a positive influence on the Republican Party. From drug policy, to sentencing reform, to same-sex marriage

More proof that Noah routinely mixes-up “feature” with “defect.”

Stoic Patriot on August 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal

Not really. Otherwise you and your RINO allies would have ushered in President Romney.

Stoic Patriot on August 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Rand Paul is just Ron Paul lite. That’s why.

thebrokenrattle on August 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Paul’s prominence robs center-left youth of the ability to dismiss the GOP outright as either bigoted or theocratic.

False, of course. If they were listening to the content of the ideas before dismissing outright, Obama wouldn’t be president right now.

Sockpuppet Politic on August 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Sorry, every time I look at Paul Sr. I see that “Always Angry Ex-GF playing with your car’s brake line” look in his eyes…
Which usually, is not as bad as the “Needs matching Restraining order to go with straightjacket” look he usually has.
BlaxPac on August 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Epic, lol.

Ebola on August 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM

First, denounce Infowars/Alex Jones and their conspiracy nonsence.

Maybe you should actually listen to what he says before doing the lib tactic of denouncing with no firsthand knowledge. Rush actually parrots his logic days later. Don’t be afraid to think.

SirGawain on August 5, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Epic, lol.

Ebola on August 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM

LOL Lived it a few times in my life: which tends to make one a bit more…introspective…especially as I get older.

BTW, guys, the crazy ones? They tend to be that way either under 25 (19-23 average), or 42-48.

God Help You if they were divorced at least once OR watch too much “Man Hater Channel” Lifetime, OWN, etc…LOL

BlaxPac on August 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM

I don’t think Ron gives up his 1st amendment rights just because Rand might want to run for president…

What’s wrong with you people.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 3:31 PM

where did you see anyone advocating the gov pass any laws regarding him?

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 4:54 PM

For a generation of young people who consider themselves fiscally conservative but socially liberal…

…they are deluding themselves. Sorry, but you cannot separate the fiscal and social issues, no matter what people like to believe. For our current fiscal woes descend from our society slipping farther and farther into the abyss morally and socially.

Shump on August 5, 2014 at 4:59 PM

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 3:50 PM

I don’t even consider people rino.
there is conservative (social/fiscal), libertarian (fiscal conservative), republican (gallons of sh*t left in a bucket out in august sun) and gop which is the crust on the republican.

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Rand is now being trapped by his own beliefs, which he has said for years and in hundreds of setting are “no different” than Ron’s.

He will never be on a national GOP ticket. EVER.

Adjoran on August 5, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Yet another reason why this unqualified, inexperienced rookie has less than no business running for President.

Sacramento on August 5, 2014 at 5:09 PM

I don’t even consider people rino.
there is conservative (social/fiscal), libertarian (fiscal conservative), republican (gallons of sh*t left in a bucket out in august sun) and gop which is the crust on the republican.

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 5:01 PM

In other words you are ready for Hillary.

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 5:35 PM

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 5:35 PM

uh…no.
I’m the social/fiscal type so her and I….we don’t agree on things. I’ve been warning people about her since 1990, maybe people ought to listen.
I also won’t give someone a free pass due to a letter after their name on a roll call.

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Rand does have one advantage over most politicians with embarrassing family members.

A large number of his supporters have bunkers preparing for the end of civilization and a Dad who can probably be easily tricked into going into one. Just fill the bunker with physical gold and some seeds to grow emergency food and put a loop of fake cnn footage that talks about the end of civilization due to the fed crashing.

Bingo end of Ron’s ability to cause harm.

OU812 on August 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Ron Paul easily has the most conservative voting record out of any member of Congress while he was a representative. The man has been right about everything. “Conservatives” hate him because he opposed Iraq. That apparently is crazy in the eyes of a neocon warmonger. Of course, he was right.

He tackled the federal reserve, the root cause of so many of our financial woes. Most of the GOP (and DNC as well) are frankly too intellectually vapid to understand the role the Fed plays in destroying this country. All the spending “conservatives” complain about is enabled by the Fed. But they want to argue about a few % difference in tax rates like they are some sort of fiscal conservatives. It’s ridiculous.

There is so much idiotic group-think here. “Ron Paul is crazy!” “Yeah yeah…he is crazy” “Loon!” What is so crazy about his ideas? I get that you don’t like that he doesn’t want to invade the world, but for crying out loud, nobody cares more about fidelity to the Constitution, and has the votes to back his rhetoric, than Dr. Paul. You can disagree with him, but the blatant disrespect and hatred is something that I will never understand.

Nonetheless, Ron Paul’s ideas are winning amongst the youth of the GOP. The tired old status quo of the GOP that has led us to this awful state is slowly dying out and thank God for that. You can hate the man all you want, but his ideas will win out.

iwasbornwithit on August 5, 2014 at 7:08 PM

iwasbornwithit on August 5, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Yeah like supporting Holocaust deniers and Russian thugs is the way to go

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM

There is so much idiotic group-think here. “Ron Paul is crazy!” “Yeah yeah…he is crazy” “Loon!” What is so crazy about his ideas? I get that you don’t like that he doesn’t want to invade the world, but for crying out loud, nobody cares more about fidelity to the Constitution, and has the votes to back his rhetoric, than Dr. Paul. You can disagree with him, but the blatant disrespect and hatred is something that I will never understand.
Nonetheless, Ron Paul’s ideas are winning amongst the youth of the GOP. The tired old status quo of the GOP that has led us to this awful state is slowly dying out and thank God for that. You can hate the man all you want, but his ideas will win out.
iwasbornwithit on August 5, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Ron Paul blames terrorism on America and Israel, not on the Islamic terrorists who plan the attacks and carry them out. You call that being “right”?

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

jerryofva on August 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Care to share a link to his alleged support of either of those things?

iwasbornwithit on August 5, 2014 at 7:20 PM

bluegill on August 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Look, I know you are establishment GOP patient zero, so I doubt anything that I say will convince you not to hate Ron Paul.

Ron Paul never “blamed” America or Israel for terrorist attacks. He talked about the concept of “blowback” ie that there is a reaction to the actions that we take overseas whether it is installing the Shah in Iran or deposing Khadaffi in Libya or any number of other things that we have done, perhaps with the best of intentions. You might even put invading Iraq in that category. Real people overseas are affected by these actions and end up being our enemies because of the stuff we do overseas. This isn’t some hippie dream. This concept has long been recognized by our own government including the military and CIA.

Do you believe that our interventions overseas have resulted in the world being a safer place? The man has simply said we need to stay out of overseas entanglements as there is no benefit to this country and ends up making us all far less safe.

iwasbornwithit on August 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM

fk ron paul
http://tinyurl.com/oovbg5r

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Why can’t Rand Paul get his dad to stop sabotaging him?

Because he’s a shameless attention whore.

Next question.

Tard on August 5, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Do not fool with Ron Paul. If you refuse him, he will haunt your prostate.

BillH on August 6, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Something about the 5th Commandment, maybe? …

No Truce With Kings on August 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM

The 5th Commandment? Oh. Okay … Luther’s Small Catechism has “Honor thy father and mother …” as the 4th Commandment. No biggie. Just a little confused. (The 5th Commandment is “Thou shalt not kill” in our catechism).

wutzupdak on August 6, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Rand probably didn’t fall as far away from Ron’s crazy tree as you’d like to believe.

lorien1973 on August 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Rand Paul has a tendency associate himself with the same kind of scumbags his father does.

Conservative Samizdat on August 7, 2014 at 1:52 AM